From: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org (ecto-digest) To: ecto-digest@smoe.org Subject: ecto-digest V5 #86 Reply-To: ecto@smoe.org Sender: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Tuesday, March 9 1999 Volume 05 : Number 086 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: hankdogs [neal copperman ] Greetings from an Ecto-virgin ["Anna Elaine Pryde" ] Re: Greetings from an Ecto-virgin [Patrick Moseley ] Re: Hankdogs [rich.rapp@effem.com] Re: Celtic Music ["Joseph S. Zitt" ] Re: Review #2: RHODES II ["Tom Ditto" ] Re: I'm baaack!! & Dutch Ecto? ["Marcel Rijs" ] Re: Celtic Music (Anam newsletter) [Yves Denneulin ] Re: Greetings from an Ecto-virgin Oops? [Michael Colford ] Re: Queen (Was: Re: ecto-digest V5 #76) ["Elina Sorva" ] throwing music wip [Jeffrey Burka ] Re: Greetings from an Ecto-virgin Oops? ["Xenu's Sister" ] RE: throwing music wip ["Foghorn J Fornorn" ] Re:Praise and Miriam Stockley / sound samples [John Rice ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 8 Mar 1999 23:56:01 -0700 From: neal copperman Subject: Re: hankdogs At 9:56 AM -0500 3/8/99, sam wrote: >i saw the hankdogs play this weekend, and i thought they were really >fabulous. i thought of beth orton too, and they've got a real 60s british >folk thing happening as well. for anyone in nyc, they are supposedly >playing at the rodeo bar (?!) this thursday night. the cd isn't as >thrilling as their live performance, but there are some great songs - >particularly "thought messages", "quality time" and "18 dogs" That's funny, I had almost exactly the opposite reaction. I saw them open for Joan Baez about a month ago, and I found them generally tedious. They seemed to have pretty nice harmonies, but the set was completely listless. I couldn't make out many of their lyrics, except they seemed to be generally downbeat. I thought their sound might actually play out well on disc (or maybe in a smaller club?). Half of the people around me thought they were terrible and played far too long (about a 45 minute opening set), while the other half bought their discs. neal np: Agus Amarach - Mistle Thrush nr: Beloved - Toni Morrison ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Mar 1999 22:18:02 -0500 From: "Anna Elaine Pryde" Subject: Greetings from an Ecto-virgin Hi, everybody! I'm brand new to the mailing list, so I'd thought I'd introduce myself. I like to consider myself Happy's first fan, since I found her first out of all my friends (some beautiful employee was actually playing her over the system at Tower Records!). Therefore, I was truly shocked and humbled to realize that Happy does exist outside of my small circle...shocked and delighted! Before I read about the concept of "ecto" as a genre, I lumped her music with Loreena McKennit, Sarah McLachlan, and, less tightly, with Tori Amos. I was thrilled with all those new names I keep seeing that are just like ripe pears, all hanging within my reach and all so savory I can't decided which to pick and taste first...October Project, KaTe, kate Bush...any opinions? Where should I go first? Of Happy, my favorite CDs are Rhodes I and II, and Building the Colossus, then Rearmamanet and Equipoise, and then Warpaint and Rhodesongs last. I'm having problems finding Ecto, although having read a whole bunch of critiques, I'm almost afraid to! Can anyone tell me which album it most resembles? And I am still very interested in purchasing it, if someone can give me a clue. Let's see, what else? Well, I live on a huge but very sparsely inhabited island in the Aleutian chain of Alaska, and thus get absolutely NO musical stimulation (no clubs, bars, or even radio stations!) outside my CD stash, which is rapidly growing stale. So, any vicarious stimulation through accounts of shows and all are greatly appreciated! I'll hush now- blessed be, all! -Anna Pryde - ---------- > From: Patrick Moseley > To: ecto@smoe.org > Subject: Review #2: RHODES II (longish...) > Date: Monday, March 08, 1999 11:43 AM > > Hello all... > > After my review of RHODES I I've decided to continue on > "consecutively," even though I understand I & II are really two halves of > the same whole. Every time I listen to this album, I'm struck by how great > and creative it actually is, a fact that was somehow completely lost on me > the first one or two times I heard it. It's amazing, and I wonder how many > other established and respected artists could release their initial demos > or studio work and still hold their head as high as Happy should? > > "Come Here," as I've said in the past, would make one wicked > lullaby, especially the last two verses. I like the music to this one, and > thematically at least, this seems to be a precurser to "Cohabitants." It's > interesting to me how "lovable" Happy makes her monsters' motives seem at > times. And speaking of lullabies, "The Revelation" also comes across to me > as a lullaby of sorts. Again, the music is sweet, and I love the way Happy > sweeps down from her KaTe-like high register to her gravelly take on the > word "reality." > > "Many Nights" amazes me every time I hear it. Four simple lines of > text, four simple melody lines, all repeated several times in this short > and totally repetitive song, and yet it's still captivating. I get chills > the way Happy drones out the deep vocals of the first two lines and then > sweeps us away in the layered and moving vocals of the last two lines. > There's something amazing in the way she can take a line that the average > listener probably can't relate to at all -- "although I am not very real, > am I something you can love?" -- and still make it so moving. > > "Under and Over the Brink" doesn't do much for me musically, but > lyrically it strikes me as the first semi-autobiographical song of the > album (unless I'm mistaken), and I find it interesting that Happy heralds > music as more constant and dependable than love... a notion that I'd tend > to agree with at times (don't laugh -- but how many of us have an album or > song that has been with us through more years and hard times than a > particular relationship?). > > I love the music of "Let Me Know, Love," although I'm having a hard > time figuring out exactly what Happy is singing about. Happy sounds like a > little girl singing this song, which is fine although the somewhat nasal > approach can hit the ears a little hard at times. This is still one of the > most beautiful melodies of the album. "Where Do I Go" is also pretty > melodically. Happy's voice sounds strikingly like Mary Fahl's (October > Project) at times; check out the way she sings the word "believe" in the > second verse and you'll know what I'm talking about. Lyrically Happy seems > to be tackling the notion of guilt over a mistake or a lie that has cost > her the trust of a loved one(s). Very interesting! Who in their lifetime > has never wanted to go back and undo something they did wrong? > > The high point for me on this album is "Not for Me." Happy seems to > be lamenting the fact that she loves unusual things -- the darkness over > light, unreachable stars, the normal life, etc., and therefore will never > find "the man of [her] dreams." The lyrics are interesting, but it's the > music that floors me. The double echo on every other line of the verses > gives me goosebumps (an idea she repeats on REARMAMENT's "The Issue Is" to > lesser effect), and the simplistic/minimalistic approach is misleading to > this song's overall power. I'd rank it as one of my all-time favorite Happy > tracks. > > Reading through the lyrics to "One Alien," I noticed that this song > could easily be sung by the Elliot character from the film "E.T." I'm left > wondering if that was Happy's inspiration, because the way Elliot found an > equal in his alien friend and the way "society" reacted to E.T. is mirrored > here in Happy's lyrics. Just a thought. The music is quite nice as well... > > Up to this point, I remain consistently impressed by Happy's talent > displayed on RHODES II. But beginning with "Noone Here," the album dips a > bit for me, especially musically. My nit with this track is completely > minor, given that it's a beautifully written and performed track. My > complaint comes with the line "not even a kitty to share my storm," which > throws off even a cat lover like myself. Something about the depression > expressed by the narrator of the song makes me think such a line is a > little too sentimental or cute. But again, that's a minor thing (and I > don't even mind the periodic meows in the background). > > "To the Funnyfarm" and "Asylum Master" lose me for some reason. I > can't really regard them individually for some reason, if only because > their titles are linked in my head. "Funnyfarm" is just a tad too folkish > for my tastes; and "Asylum Master" just doesn't do anything for me > musically or lyrically to make up for it. "Beat it Out" treads on the > territory first covered by "Many Nights" (short on lyrics, repetitive), > only this song lacks the musical variety of "Many Nights," instead opting > for a deep and drone-like melody that Happy delivers in her > always-astounding lower register. Pleasant enough, but not noteworthy. The > same can be said of "Beat it Out," although I think Happy has masterfully > captured the mood of the classic nightmare -- being chased by some monster > and having your feet fail you -- in the lyrics. Musically, though, she was > more creative on the previous ballads of the album. As a bonus track, "Take > Me with You" is good enough and fits in well with what has preceded it, but > lacks the punch to make it stand out. > > Overall, excellence abounds on RHODES II, even moreso than on > RHODES I, especially considering Happy's age and experience at the time it > was recorded. The strength of the album definitely lies within the first > nine tracks and only falters after that. And now that I've delved the > lyrics a bit more, I'm beginning to appreciate (or at least understand) the > monsters on her album covers. > > GRADE: B+ > BEST CUTS: > 1. Not for Me > 2. Many Nights > 3. Let Me Know, Love > 4. The Revelation > 5. Come Here > LEAST FAVORITE CUT: To the Funny Farm > > Patrick > > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 09:36:38 -0000 From: "Graham" Subject: Celtic Music Just for the craic, I though that it would be interesting to examine the question of whether Irish/Celtic music TRULY belongs on an Ectophiles CD shelf. I know that amongst our ranks there are many who admire talents like Enya, McKennitt, Ceredwen, Capercaille and Emer Kenny. In the UK it seems that The Corrs are everywhere on TV, radio and in advertising. I also have a feeling that the Chieftain's 'Tears of Stone' is going to be a massive international hit. Graham ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 09:01:11 -0500 From: Patrick Moseley Subject: Re: Greetings from an Ecto-virgin >Hi, everybody! > >I'm brand new to the mailing list, so I'd thought I'd introduce myself. Hi, Anna, and welcome aboard. Be prepared to be introduced to tons of wonderful new music through this newsgroup. >I was thrilled with all those new names I keep seeing that are >just like ripe pears, all hanging within my reach and all so savory I can't >decided which to pick and taste first...October Project, KaTe, kate >Bush...any opinions? Where should I go first? Asking for recommendations around this newsgroup will result in you getting more suggestions than you can handle! If you haven't already, check this out: http://www.smoe.org/ecto/ There's a link called the Ectophile Guide to Good Music, and there you'll find past discussions to hundreds of musical artists, and that way you can pick and choose to your own taste. October Project is (IMO) excellent, but they only released two albums before disbanding. They were kind of a cross between Loreena McKennitt and Happy Rhodes. Also, in case you didn't realize this already, KaTe and Kate Bush are one and the same. Some people just refer to her as "KaTe." If you haven't ever heard any of her music, I'd definitely recommend you check it out. She has a "best-of" album called "The Whole Story" which works as a great introduction to her music. If you like Happy, it's almost guaranteed you'll like Kate, and not only because their voices (in the higher register) are nearly identical. Only Kate's a bit more reclusive and a lot less prolific than Happy. >Of Happy, my favorite CDs >are Rhodes I and II, and Building the Colossus, then Rearmamanet and >Equipoise, and then Warpaint and Rhodesongs last. If you haven't gotten Happy's latest, "Many Worlds Are Born Tonight" (which you didn't list), then in my opinion you haven't heard her best work yet. She also has two other albums - "Ecto" and "The Keep," which you didn't mention. You might want to seek these out as well. > I'm having problems finding Ecto, although having read a whole bunch of >critiques, I'm almost afraid to! Can anyone tell me which album it most >resembles? And I am still very interested in purchasing it, if someone can >give me a clue. Actually, Ecto isn't any one particular singer or musical group. "Ecto" just refers to the kind of odd, atmospheric, alternative, ethereal (and often female-fronted) music created by such musicians as Happy, Kate Bush, Jane Siberry, Peter Gabriel, and to a lesser extent people like Tori Amos, October Project, Loreena McKennitt, etc. Anyway... hope this helps you out in some way! Patrick ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 07:41:55 -0500 From: rich.rapp@effem.com Subject: Re: Hankdogs Don't really know much about them, other than WXPN in Phila. is giving them LOTS of air play. The song _18 dogs_ I've heard at least 5 times in the last week and I only really get to listen about 2 hours a day during my drive to/from work. Rich R. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 09:15:30 -0600 (CST) From: "Joseph S. Zitt" Subject: Re: Celtic Music On Tue, 9 Mar 1999, Graham wrote: > Just for the craic, I though that it would be interesting to examine the > question of whether Irish/Celtic music TRULY belongs on an Ectophiles CD > shelf. I can't think of any genre that one could say truly does not belong on an Ectophiles CD shelf. - - ---------1---------1---------1---------1---------1---------1---------- |||/ Joseph Zitt ===== jzitt@humansystems.com ===== Human Systems \||| ||/ Maryland? = <*> SILENCE: The John Cage Mailing List <*> = ecto \|| |/ http://www.realtime.net/~jzitt ====== Comma: Voices of New Music \| ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 10:30:00 -0500 From: "Tom Ditto" Subject: Re: Review #2: RHODES II Patrick wrote: >It's interesting to me how "lovable" Happy makes her monsters' motives seem at times. < Very interesting indeed. Perhaps she loved them as part of herself, and once outside of herself in the form of a song, they became objects of affection like any offspring would. It's amazing that lyrics this dark can be covered by melodies so elevating... made all the more endearing by a voice from heaven itself. Tom ditto@taconic.net "Do you copy? Over..." ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 Mar 1999 17:04:45 +0100 From: "Marcel Rijs" Subject: Re: I'm baaack!! & Dutch Ecto? Hi! Wed, 03 Mar 1999 17:54:44 +0100 (W. Europe Standard Time) Marion Kippers wrote: >There are so many interesting threads going on, that by now I feel I >have to dive in. Even though I don't have the time to write anything >sensible at all. :-) > >First of all, a big "Welcome Back !!" for Marcel - I tried to keep >your name alive on Ecto a bit, but it's good to have you around in >person again. :-) After all, it was you who first really introduced >me to Happy's music, playing "RhodeSongs" for me almost five years >ago now (obl. Happy mention here... :-) ) Why, thanks Marion! :) It worked, because some of you officially welcomed me back both on- and off-list. So many thanks, I feel very famous! :) >Which reminds me: I think it's a good thing that Samson Music decided >to re-release all Happy's previous albums. But does anybody know >anything about Samson's plans for widespread distribution in Europe >of Happy's music? I have the feeling nothing much is happening >there, but I could be wrong. Anybody know? ... I would be interested if there are plans to remaster the CD's and perhaps to add bonus tracks?? >Favourite male artists: Frank Boeijen and Colin Vearncombe (Black). >No Ecto consensus there I suppose, except for Marcel... ;-) Though >I think both could be regarded Ectophilic in a way. Certainly! I agree! :) >Frank Boeijen is a Dutch singer/songwriter, whom I don't love so much [...] >Marcel has done a homepage for Frank on >http://home.plex.nl/~mfgr/boeijen/index.html , but that's all in >Dutch (what happened to the English pages?). There are some sound >samples on http://home.plex.nl/~mfgr/boeijen/medicijn.htm I've deleted the English pages because translating is such a pain, and they weren't visited that well. I got the feeling I was working a lot for very few people. But if there's enough interest, I will expand the sounds page and add an English FAQ... Let me know, all of you!! >Colin Vearncombe (from the UK) used to record as Black, and had a >world wide hit way back in 1987 with "Wonderful Life". His music is >certainly on the poppy side, but his voice is one to melt for. I do. >:-) And by now I think he's almost beaten KaTe - his most recent >album dates back to 1993. However, the main difference here is that >Black HAS recorded a new album, but he's now searching for somebody to >help release it. Check out Marcel's (him again!) authorized Black >site on http://home.plex.nl/~mfgr/black/index.html for more info >(including some sound samples). Come one, come all! :) I think it's time to hire Marion as my PR person... I would like to add that I've created a new homepage for myself, at http://www.plex.nl/~mfgr , and its music section will become more interesting as time goes by. I'm making pages for my whole music collection and I hope to include many ecto-ish music. I would also like to ask whether there is an interest in creating a "Dutch Ecto" page containing MP3 files of Dutch music. Since I have cable access these things are now more easy to make - and I think it's time to promote Holland as a place where at least a few people make good music........ Kind regards, Groeten, Marcel Rijs ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 17:44:08 +0100 (CET) From: Yves Denneulin Subject: Re: Celtic Music (Anam newsletter) Joseph S. Zitt writes: > I can't think of any genre that one could say truly does not belong on > an Ectophiles CD shelf. Boy's band. Does anyone here dare admit that they own a Wet Wet Wet CD? ;-) More on topically (is that a neologism?), I received the Anam newsletter a couple of weeks ago and forgot to forward it to the list. Here it is, it contains a list of US tour dates (Neile, they are coming to Seattle!) NEW WEB SITE: Check out the new web site for the Official Anam Home Page: www.anam.co.uk/anam . This new site is still being developed. Keep in touch through our guest book. Our new site is being maintained by Netreal, a great organisation primarily dedicated to Scottish based artists/bands: www.netreal.co.uk NEW ANAM LINE UP: Anam has a new line up with the departure of Aimée Leonard at the end of 1998. The band wish Aimée the best of luck in her future endeavours. The new members Anam welcomes are two Scots: Fiona Mackenzie on Vocals & Bodhrán and Anna Wendy Stevenson on Fiddle. See web site for more details. TOURING 1999: This year will be another busy one for Anam. (See dates below) Having already played the States and Scotland, Anam is now to start touring Britain and North America. In May/June Anam will tour mainland Europe and Britain. Bookings are now being made for 1999 and 2000. For North American bookings please contact Musicians Corporate Management: mcmltd@aol.com . For the Rest of the World contact Anam at: office@anam.co.uk ANAM 1999 TOUR DATES March: 11 Fresno, CA, USA - Tel: 12 Folsom, CA, USA - Tel: 13 Pasadena, CA, USA - Neighbourhood Church, Tel: 626 791 0411 14 Portland, Or, USA - The Snake & Weasel, Tel: 16 Seattle, Or. USA - The Tractor Tavern, Tel: 206 789 3599 17 Calgary, AB, Canada - Irish Cultural Society, Tel: 403 282 6717 19 Calgary, AB, Canada - Dalhousie Community Centre Tel: 403 288 0987 20 Edmonton, AB, Canada - Riverdale Hall, Tel: 403 4211 357 21 Vancouver, BC, Canada - WISE Hall, Tel: 604 736 3022 April: 17 Glenfarg Festival, Scotland, Tel: 01738 626 167 May: 20 – 30 Switzerland, For details Tel: 031 381 66 91 June: 9 – 15 Austria, For details Tel: 0316 25 35 69 16 Krems, Austria - NO-Donaufestival, Tel: 01 368 23 56 25 July: 17 Stonehaven, Scotland – Stonehaven Folk Festival, Tel: 01569 765 063 August: 20/21 Milwaukee Irish Festival, Tel: 28 Bridgnorth, England - Bridgnorth Festival, Tel: September: 3 Tinto Festival, Scotland, Tel: 01864 502 497 October: British & Irish Tour, Details TBA November: 1 – 20 North America Tour, Details TBA NEXT ALBUM TO BE RECORDED SOON: The month of April has been set aside to record Anam's fifth album. The band will be playing some of the new material to be recorded at upcoming concerts. The album will be recorded just outside Edinburgh, Scotland, at Castle Sound Studios, and will be produced by Calum Malcolm (who produced Anam's last album, Riptide). AND FINALLY... Brian Ó hEadhra, the singer-songwriter/guitarist with Anam is to embark on a solo career as well as continuing to play with Anam. For details and bookings contact: brian@anam.co.uk Best, - -- Yves. n.p.: Baden Powell _Solitude on guitar_ (I am surprised his name didn't appear in the great guitarist thread. He is on the top of my personal list) n.r.: Etham Egoyan(?) _Le seigneur des porcheries_ (an american writer discovered by a french editor while begging in Paris. This book is OK so far, it a rather harsh critic of the old fashioned (read: southern) american society) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 11:49:30 -0600 (CST) From: kerrywhite@webtv.net (kerry white) Subject: Re: Greetings from an Ecto-virgin Oops?    From: moseley@tatrc.org (Patrick Moseley) Date: Tue, Mar 9, 1999, 9:01am (CST+1) > She also has two other albums - "Ecto" and "The Keep," which you didn't mention. You might want to seek these out as well.<               >> I'm having problems finding Ecto, although having read a whole bunch of critiques, I'm almost afraid to! Can anyone tell me which album it most resembles? And I am still very interested in purchasing it, if someone can give me a clue.<<               > Actually, Ecto isn't any one particular singer or musical group. "Ecto" just refers to ..(Snip)..<.             Patrick, I think we have an Oops! here! She -is- asking about Ecto the cd , so you answered a question not asked. This is what we get for naming the mailing list after a specific title, even if it -is- the perfect title for our genre-mindset-thingy! 8-) KrW "Yes, it left a great gaping hole in the water!" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 12:56:31 -0500 From: Patrick Moseley Subject: Re: Greetings from an Ecto-virgin Oops? > >> I'm having problems finding Ecto, >although having read a whole bunch of critiques, I'm almost afraid to! >Can anyone tell me which album it most resembles? And I am still very >interested in purchasing it, if someone can give me a clue.<< > > Actually, Ecto isn't any one >particular singer or musical group. "Ecto" just refers to ..(Snip)..<. > > Patrick, I think we have an Oops! here! >She -is- asking about Ecto the cd , so you answered a question not >asked. This is what we get for naming the mailing list after a specific >title, even if it -is- the perfect title for our genre-mindset-thingy! >8-) > KrW Ugh! I totally mis-read what she meant. Silly me. All apologies. I'm so stupid, and man am I dull, Patrick ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 13:05:36 -0500 From: Patrick Moseley Subject: Re: Greetings from an Ecto-virgin > I'm having problems finding Ecto, although having read a whole bunch of >critiques, I'm almost afraid to! Can anyone tell me which album it most >resembles? And I am still very interested in purchasing it, if someone can >give me a clue. Hello again... someone just pointed out that I read your question incorrectly. I'll try to rectify that now. I'd say "Ecto" is most similar to Happy's first three albums and not much at all like "Warpaint" and those that came after. It's *very* dark (even by Happy's standards), and even though personally it's my least favorite of hers, I still like it. The best two songs from it -- "If So" and "Ode" -- are featured on "RhodeSongs." If you don't like those two songs, I doubt you'd find much you'd like on "Ecto." As for finding a copy of "Ecto," I don't know what to tell you. Perhaps you should send an e-mail to the newsgroup with the title: "Where to purchase a copy of Ecto?" That should get you a response or two that can point you in the right direction (if someone hasn't already). I used this method to complete my Happy collection and ended up buying all seven discs from an on-line dealer (and I think I depleted his supply). If all else fails, have hope in the fact that Samson music has expressed intentions to re-release all of Happy's albums in the very near future. Patrick ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 13:27:23 -0500 (EST) From: Michael Colford Subject: Re: Greetings from an Ecto-virgin Oops? On Tue, 9 Mar 1999, Patrick Moseley wrote: > I'm so stupid, and man am I dull, Patrick, Patrick, don't beat yourself up. You're definitely not stupid, and I wouldn't call you dull either! Just a simple mistake! Keep those Happy reviews coming! They're great reading! Michael http://www.whereitis.com/home/colford/ http://www.whereitis.com/home/chlotrudis/ n.p. Rufus Wainwright - -------------------------------------------------------------------- Michael Colford | Reading Public Library Head of Technical Services | Reading, Massachusetts colford@noblenet.org | *North of Boston Library Exchange* - -------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 11:57:34 -0800 From: Neile Graham Subject: Re: Greetings from an Ecto-virgin Oops? Michael Colford wrote: >On Tue, 9 Mar 1999, Patrick Moseley wrote: > >> I'm so stupid, and man am I dull, > >Patrick, Patrick, don't beat yourself up. You're definitely not >stupid, and I wouldn't call you dull either! Just a simple >mistake! Keep those Happy reviews coming! They're great reading! Ditto, and amen, and thanks for letting me add then to Happy's entries in The Ectophiles' Guide. (It's going to be a few weeks before I do that, though, as I have so much to add to Happy's pages! Files and files and files.) - --Neile n.p. Bloem de Ligny's _zink_ (more about her soon) - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Neile Graham ...... http://www.sff.net/people/neile ....... neile@sff.net Les Semaines: A Weekly Journal . http://www.sff.net/people/neile/semaines The Ectophiles' Guide to Good Music ....... http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 Mar 1999 12:44:16 PST From: "Elina Sorva" Subject: Re: Queen (Was: Re: ecto-digest V5 #76) Hi Bill, >It's been a busy week and I am behind on Ecto responses. Oh yes, life is busy, isn't it......Juha seemed to get ahead of me in answering to your question......he summed it up pretty well, I guess...so, you see, it was really not my _choise_ nor his for that matter...both of us were under the influence of some authority...he was brainwashed by a friend, I by him....I wonder why I haven't managed to convert _anyone_ by now...! >My brother and I share many musical discoveries with each other as >well. That's exactly how it _should_ be.....but I'm merely under the influence, you see... >Most of the people that I know that really were into Queen here in >the States are in their very late 20s to mid 30s. I know, and there aren't too many of them either, or at least that's what every American Queen fan I know keeps telling me...I guess the majority of "us" belongs to that age group, but oh well...there are kids so young that they never lived during the Queen era and call themselves Queen fans..... >I too was primarily exposed to classical music at a young age. I was >also exposed to Japanese music from when I lived there as a little >boy. That must have influenced your "musical perspective" (whatever...) quite a bit! How would you say it affects your guitar playing today, or does it? What about.....do you often find yourself thinking differently about some japanese/other"exotic" music than other people who weren't exposed to it in their childhood? Sorry for the clumsy question, I couldn't figure out a way to make it smoother...Knowing how much the first years of life influence the rest of it, it'd be interesting to know if you have any personal experiences of this. >Brian May has always had a very distinctive guitar style. He built >his guitar himself from some wood that he found at a site were a >home was being torn down (if I remember correctly). I believe it was >wood from an old fireplace mantel. Yes, you're right in that....hence the nickname "Fireplace"... >Plus he used multi-track layering of his guitar in a very >interesting way. Of course they did the same thing with Freddie's >vocals (and of course the rest of the boys'voices) It's funny, but only a long time after I became a fan I actually started thinking about just _why_ I like their music, and why I like certain songs more than others.....yes I know there are so many factors to this, but it's mostly this "layered stuff" (sorry for my unpro vocabulary!) that gives me the thrills...I believe it's partly the production, and partly the unique blend of F, R & B's voices that makes it possible, because on their solo albums there's nothing comparable to this sound! (yes, even after all that praise for Freddie's voice I must admit the harmonies sound best with all of them contributing) >I agree with you totally that human voice is the most amazing >instrument of them all! Oh, most definitely! On a sort of related note, it's quite neat how some people are able to imitate different instruments with their voices (The Real Group from Sweden, for instance) but one of the most fascinating things is when a musician, playing some instrument, creates a sound that really sings...... (I don't know if that last bit supported the statement about human voice or undermined it, but oh well...that's how I feel....) By for now, everyone, and make sure you check out ERROLLYN WALLEN if you come across that name (sorry, couldn't resist it!) Elina n.p. Máire Brennan - Máire Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 15:10:19 -0600 (CST) From: kerrywhite@webtv.net (kerry white) Subject: Re:oops! Hi, I deleted too quickly to quote exactly: Patrick: I'm so stupid and man am I dull. Several others: Don't beat yourself up over it. Me: Patrick, I guess few of us caught the HR reference. If [you] ever meet that [boy] again... KrW "Yes, it left a great gaping hole in the water!" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 11:45:42 +1100 From: Sherlyn Koo Subject: sigc: Lisa Germano to tour Hey folks, Haven't seen this here yet... - -sherlyn ==== >from the Sycophant mailing list : > >Lisa Germano is set to go on tour with the Latin Playboys. The Playboys >(consisting of Los Lobos members David Hildago and Louie Perez with >Mitchell Froom and Tchad Blake) recently released their excellent >(though short) album, "Dose," on 3/2. Check locally for confirmations: > > 3/24 @ Aerospace/Seattle, WA ($15) > 3/25 @ the Aladdin Theatre/Portland, OR ($15/$17) > 3/27 @ the Catalyst/Santa Cruz, CA ($15/$17) > 3/28 @ Bimbo's 365 Club/San Francisco, CA ($18) > 3/30 @ the Belly Up Tavern/Solana Beach, CA ($14) > 3/31 @ the Galaxy Theatre/Santa Ana, CA ($16.50) > 4/1 @ the Hollywood Athletic Club/Los Angeles, CA > (tickets go on sale 3/11; $22.50/$24.00) > 4/9 @ La Zona Rosa/Austin, TX > 4/10 @ the Gypsy Tea Room/Dallas, TX > 4/11 @ the Mountain Stage/Charleston, WV > 4/13 @ the 9:30 Club/Washington, D.C. ($15) > 4/14 @ the TLA/Philadelphia, PA > 4/15 @ Tramps/New York/NY > 4/16 @ the Paradise Theatre/Boston, MA > 4/17 @ Pearl Street/Northampton, MA > 4/18 @ Higher Ground/Burlington, VT > 4/22 @ the Majestic Theatre/Detroit, MI > 4/23 @ Park West/Chicago, IL > 4/24 @ First Avenue/Minneapolis, MN > 4/27 @ the Fox Theater/Boulder, CO ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 Mar 1999 19:56:40 -0500 From: Jeffrey Burka Subject: throwing music wip I was going through some old bills and came across one with the charge for my subscription to Kristen Hersh's Works in Progress thingy from throwingmusic.com, and it occurred to me that I hadn't checked in a while. They're up to 5 tracks now; the most recent are actually Throwing Muses bits...a Beefheart cover (!) and a demo of "Golden Thing." Entirely too cool. jeff np: "Golden Thing", Throwing Muses - -- |Jeffrey C. Burka|||http://www.cqi.com/~jburka ||||"I've got time to rest / | ||||||||||||| And I've got a clear, able mind that sees my life going fine. | | 'Cause everything I need is right here in my hands..." --Melissa Ferrick | ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 Mar 1999 19:43:50 -0600 From: "Xenu's Sister" Subject: Re: Greetings from an Ecto-virgin Oops? At 01:27 PM 3/9/99 -0500, Michael Colford wrote: >On Tue, 9 Mar 1999, Patrick Moseley wrote: > >> I'm so stupid, and man am I dull, > >Patrick, Patrick, don't beat yourself up. You're definitely not >stupid, and I wouldn't call you dull either! Michael, that's a line from Happy's song "If I Ever See The Girl Again" so I don't think he meant it literally. :-) >Just a simple mistake! Keep those Happy reviews coming! >They're great reading! I second that emotion! I haven't said anything so far but I am definitely worshiping the ground Patrick walks on. Vickie ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 20:46:40 -0500 From: "Foghorn J Fornorn" Subject: ecto comp update I just emailed the mailing instructions to everyone on my list of participants. If you don't receive them soon and think you should have, email me so I can verify I have your correct email address in my address book. That mail was to music contributors only, not those I have listed for liner stuff. To those I ask you here now: got any wonderful works of art for our liner yet? Not trying to rush anyone, just curious. Demos/Participants: Total time so far: 60:15 (includes 2nd choices) * Jessica Weiser [Songbird22@aol.com] * John Drummond [johnxxiii@yahoo.com] 5:00 * Heather Russell [hrussell@bellsouth.net] 6:30 * Joseph S. Zitt [jzitt@humansystems.com] 10:00 * Holly J Tominack [htominack@erols.com] "Stimulous Bound" * Bill Mazur [wpm@value.net] and Katheleen Michaels 10:30 * Dirk Kastens [Dirk.Kastens@rz.uni-osnabrueck.de] 6:00 * Kim Justice [justicek@home.com] 10:30 * Rubber DeNiro [lissener@yahoo.com] * Richard Holmes [rholmes@ccrma.Stanford.EDU] and Janet Dunbar * Cyoakha [lanblind@teleport.com] 11:45 * Susan Court [delirium@omnigroup.com] Liner Design: * Rubber DeNiro [lissener@yahoo.com] * Brian Bloom [brianb@mooman.com] * Cyoakha [lanblind@teleport.com] Liner Reproduction * Richard [rkonrad@javanet.com] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 20:48:41 -0500 From: "Foghorn J Fornorn" Subject: RE: throwing music wip I've been keeking up with that. New tunes seem to hit there around or shortly after the 15th of the month. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 Mar 1999 07:36:39 -0800 From: John Rice Subject: Re:Praise and Miriam Stockley / sound samples Hi Erica and all here, As much as I like promoting the Praise album ( it's an all time favorite of mine ) and Miriam I'm opposed to dubbing complete albums. Even though it is out of print, there is a growing movement to get it re-released. Without getting into a big discussion on the rights of the artists and copyright holders for compensation and just reward for their efforts, the good news is that I'd like to announce my 'unofficial tribute to praise' web site. There are pictures from the CD, rantings by me about how great the album is, and 1 to 2 minutes long MP3 / RA sound samples from most of the songs on the album. Go to http://207.137.99.182/praise/index.htm and check it out! Please sign the guest book too, let anyone from the record label that happens to see the site know how much praise's re-release is needed! For more info and discussion of Praise, Miriam Stockley and Adiemus please visit Noah Grey's awesome unofficial Adiemus web site at http://www.noahgrey.com/adiemus/. Thanks in advance! John L Rice ImJohn@worldnet.att.net .......I play drums. NP: The Keep PS - please check out the rest of my site also at http://www.ImJohn.com/ It's very much under construction but be sure to check out the link to The Semi-Official Makedonians Web Site at http://207.137.99.182/TheMakedonians/MaksMain.htm, a balkan folk / fussion band I am involved with. We will be on a live FM radio / internet RA broadcast on March 12 at about 10 PM. Thanks! > Date: Mon, 8 Mar 1999 21:04:01 -0500 (EST) > From: enya7@iname.com > Subject: Praise/Miriam Stockley > > Hi, > Can someone please send me a dubbed copy > or original copy of the album "Praise" > by the group "Praise"? > Miriam Stockley sang on this album in 1992. > She also sang on the Adiemus CDs. > Other places that you may have heard her- > Great Expectations film, Beatrix Potter > tv show. > She has been working on a solo album and > it will be released sometime in 1999, maybe > April or May. > > I've heard good things about Praise and I > wonder if someone would be kind enough to > send me a copy. I heard that this album is > not available for sale anymore. > Thanks, > Erica :) > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 15:35:53 +1100 From: Sherlyn Koo Subject: FW: Barbara Kessler news Hi folks, Here's the latest Barbara Kessler mailout... - -sherlyn === >Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 23:21:59 -0500 (EST) >To: sherlyn@fl.net.au >From: bk@barbarakessler.com >Subject: March and April dates; WBUR radio > > >Howdy all you new listees. Welcome! For some reason I forgot the rest of March (99, that is!) in my last mailer so here it is. (Plus a bit of April.) > >P.S. The Southeast was great! I love Alabama!! > >P.P.S. For all you New Englanders in the WBUR 90.9fm listening range, I will be featured in an interview with Tovia Smith on the show "Here and Now" tomorrow, >Wednesday March 10th. The show airs between 12noon and 1pm and the music usually comes at the end of the hour. > >Sat 3/13 Club Passim, Cambridge MA Special guest, Bob Malone 617-492-7679 >Sat 3/20 Mother's Wine Emporium, Troy NY 518-276-8585 Open for Diane Zeigler >Fri 3/26 Uncle Calvin's Coffeehouse, Dallas TX* 214-363-0044 >Sat 3/27 Rice University, Houston TX call Kerrville office 830-257-3600 >Sun 3/28 Cibolo Creek Country Club, San Antonio TX *830-257-3600 >Mon 3/29 Cactus Cafe, Austin TX 512-475-6515 >Tues 3/30 Big Spring City Auditorium, Big Spring TX >830-257-3600 >Thurs 4/8 Sheldon Concert Hall, St. Louis Open for David >Wilcox 314-256-8322 >Fri 4/9 Liberty Hall, Lawrence KS Open for David >Wilcox 314-256-8322 >Sat 4/10 Open for David Wilcox elsewhere in Missouri (promoter:314-256-8322) >Sun 4/11 Tentative elsewhere in Missouri (call promoter:314-256-8322) >*note: Texas dates comprise the Women of Kerrville Tour, a writers-in-the-round also featuring Kate Wallace, Emily Kaitz, Betty Elders, Karen Taylor-Good,and Alisa Fineman. > >Thanks! >Tour Itinerary is updated frequently at www.barbarakessler.com. Hope to see y'all out there! > ------------------------------ End of ecto-digest V5 #86 *************************