From: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org (ecto-digest) To: ecto-digest@smoe.org Subject: ecto-digest V5 #67 Reply-To: ecto@smoe.org Sender: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Wednesday, February 24 1999 Volume 05 : Number 067 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: new Suzanne Vega? [Jeffrey Burka ] pianists, keyboardists, etc *huff* [John Drummond ] pepper acton (was: favorites) [Songbird22@aol.com] Yet another cool Toronto artist [Songbird22@aol.com] Re:male vocalists, female pianists [dave ] Quick: Mock Turtles & Alice in Ectoland [Mark Lowry ] Re: new Suzanne Vega? [Michael Colford ] Re: new Suzanne Vega? [Jeffrey Burka ] RE: pianists, keyboardists, etc *huff* ["girl with the curious hair" ] New (to me) music [Mark Lowry ] Re: trashmonk, ["N. Janee' Hunter" ] Re: New (to me) music [Jeffrey Burka ] Re: new Suzanne Vega? [Mark Miazga ] Re: New (to me) music [Carolyn Andre ] Jewel boxes (was Re: New (to me) music) [Neile Graham ] pianists [FAMarcus@aol.com] Re: Quick: Mock Turtles & Alice in Ectoland [neal copperman Subject: Re: new Suzanne Vega? Stuart sez: > > Songbird22@aol.com wrote: > > > Anyone have any thoughts on the new best-of Suzanne Vega album?? > > What are her best albums in your opinion? > As far as her best albums, I would say her first self-titled album > and _99.9 F degrees_ are my favorites. Yeah. What he said. Interesting that her first and fourth are, at least in our opinions, the pinnacle of her career to date. I had heard little bits of the eponymous album, but largely written them off, when I saw Suzanne appear on SNL in the spring of '87. I went into work the next morning at Sam Goody, and told my manager that we absolutely *had* to open _Solitude Standing_ for store play. I played it *constantly* in the store, and we sold a lot of copies as a result. It was only after I bought SS and then SV for my dad that I went back and listened to the first album and fell in love with it. Haven't played it in a while, but last weekend I had both "The Queen and the Soldier" and "Knight Moves" stuck in head. Odd. > _99.9_ is very different. It's sort of an industrial-folk hybrid. With forays deep into each individual territory; I don't really hear *any* folkiness in "Blood Makes Noise" (an astonishing song; took me a long time to realize that the lead vocal appears twice, one on each side, one straight, one treated. Utterly, utterly brilliant.) > But really you can't go wrong with any of her albums. _Solitude > Standing_, _Days of Open Hand_, and even _9 Objects of Desire_ (the > weakest IMHO) have some of my favorite songs of hers on them. Okay, now we differ. I've always placed _Days of Open Hand_ at the bottom of the list. When it was released, it bored me. While I came to appreciate it, and I think it has some phenomenal songs, it still largely leaves me a little cool, and it's the least frequently played of the discs I have...(meaning I probably pull out the couple of cd singles more frequently!) jeff np: _Mercy_, Lisa Cerbone (my order just arrived in the mail! yea!) - -- |Jeffrey C. Burka|||http://www.cqi.com/~jburka ||||"I've got time to rest / | ||||||||||||| And I've got a clear, able mind that sees my life going fine. | | 'Cause everything I need is right here in my hands..." --Melissa Ferrick | ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 16:30:45 -0800 (PST) From: John Drummond Subject: pianists, keyboardists, etc *huff* Y'all, Here I am again, tooting a rare, ragy trumpet. FIONA APPLE, people. Fiona's piano work is SO complex jazz. It's *real* jazz, she is using such intense rich chords with added 7ths and 13ths and all sorts of crazy shit like that, and her time changes... and God, it just flows like water. Perhaps she *is* popular with the YM-reading crowd, which of course means everyone on Ecto has to hate her ;p, and she *is* young and tends to stick her foot in her mouth, but I love her nonetheless. Her work connects with me on a much deeper level than the work of most singer-songwriters out there. Sarah Slean, yes, is a truly wonderful pianist as well. She and Fiona are similar in that their piano work is very very layered and rich and complicated. Emm Gryner I thought was an amateurish and bad piano player. Just because there's piano on their albums doesn't mean they're good pianists, y'all. This is funny, we're pigeonholing ourSEVLES here... any girl we can think of who plays piano, we include on the list... I know we wouldn't have done that with any male who plays piano... something tells me none of y'all thought about Axl Rose when going through your list of "good pianists". He's not good, but there's piano on his album. All we're doing here is thinking of girls who have any half-asses piano-tinkling on their album and immediately they're new prodigy geniuses. No, sorry, Pepper Acton is *not* a good pianist, it's not her rhythms, it's not her honkytonk, it's the fact that she just doesn't sound fluid. She sounds like she's about to fall off the bench at any moment, and it's just bad. Emily Bezar, conversely, IS a good pianist. She has had conservatory training. Guess who taught herself (and I venture, incorrectly!)? That's right: Pepper Acton herself! I haven't heard Margot O'Breslin yet, but I'm going to order her CD soon... we'll see about her then. Oh, and in case any of y'all are wondering, I've been playing the piano for 13 years, so I actually *do* have some clue as to what I'm talking about, thanks. And, of course, there's Diamanda Galás. I'm sure the folks on the Diamanda mailinglist would find all of this pianist talk really really funny, seein' as how they're all familiar with Diamanda's keyboard work. She is amazing. If you haven't heard her, you can't even begin to understand. This woman's voice and piano are both equal instruments, even moreso than Tori's. Tori's piano is more versatile than her voice is because it's just bigger, it's louder. This doesn't mean Tori's voice isn't beautiful and captivating and really really really expressive, it just means that her piano can make more sounds than her voice can. With Diamanda, however, the two are on equal footing. This woman can bend steel with her voice. It's sick. She can speak tongues in Italian while playing a complex 16th-century art song, she can hammer out the most complex death-blues you've ever heard all while tearing down the nearest skyscraper with the vocal line. Woman is amazing, hands down amazing. She and Tori are the best pianists out there today. In the future, let's be more careful about thinking, okay, y'all? This is just too funny... not every girl is a pianist, not every pianist is good, not every girl with a song is the next Ecto Goddess. Just because you like a singer doesn't mean the fact that she chose to put piano on a I do adore Veda Hille, her piano work is incredible... and distinctive, as well... I can't compare her to any other female pianists... she doesn't sound like Tori *or* Sarah Slean *or* Fiona *or* Emily Bezar. She sounds like Veda Hille, which is the mark of a good artist, the ability to have a distintive style. The other piano Sarah, Sarah McLachlan... nope, sorry, she has all the distinctive piano style of astroturf. It's pretty, yes, the all-piano version of "Possession" is indeed very pretty, but it's nothing that any person with any knowledge of music theory couldn't sit down and bang out in the course of twenty minutes. It's not original, not even the little part before the third verse. It's just pretty... let's remember that this is about VIRTUOSITY, not presence. You can have all the presence in the world and play one chord on a lap steel and make the universe cry, but that doesn't mean you're any kind of lap steel virtuoso, and that especially doesn't mean that Freakwater is going to want you for their next album. Jesus. There *is* such a thing as being TOO supportive and friendly, and I think y'all are it. Y'all are it to the point of being ridiculous. I relish the scenes in horror movies where the big bad monster kills the hippies... why in the world should I be thinking of that right now? John Drummond == lyrics flow like spirits from the waters Moses parted _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 17:40:14 EST From: Songbird22@aol.com Subject: pepper acton (was: favorites) Neile writes: > Hmm. I can see not liking her music (well, I couldn't until Marion > described her experience listening to her and now I think I understand but > I still think her work is evocative and brilliant), but not thinking she's > a good pianist surprises me. Her performances aren't "clean", but in the > same way Tori's aren't. > > Maybe it's her jazz/honkytonk timing that bugs people? I don't know what it was that bugged me... I guess her piano playing is pretty good, but the way her songs are structed--being *all* over the place, I felt like I was listening to 3 songs jammed into 1. Then there were other problems I had w/t her pitch/tone... what's weird is that I really liked the web clips, but can't stand the album... Maybe I'm missing something, sometimes it takes awhile for people to grow on me... but I haven't bought the CD (a friend had it), and I don't really plan on it... jessica http://adam.nettfriends.com/Jess ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 19:37:12 EST From: Songbird22@aol.com Subject: Yet another cool Toronto artist Damn, there are so many good artists from Toronto... :) I haven't heard her soundclips from her site yet (it wouldn't work), but I've heard good things (my CD was compared to hers, actually)... So check it out: www.shann.com She's playing some gigs in Toronto, and has a CD out called "The Ghosts of my past" or something like that... :) Jessica http://adam.nettfriends.com/Jess ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 20:22:43 -0500 From: dave Subject: Re:male vocalists, female pianists The only male vocalists I can recall buying anything by lately are Rich Mullins, Cliff Young and Derek Webb of Caedmon's Call, and the guys in dc Talk. As for female pianists, my favorites lately are Diana Krall, Michelle Tumes, Cindy Morgan, Nichole Nordeman and Clara Ponty (daughter of violinist Jean-Luc). - -- +-----------------------------------------------------+ + dave + + irc.dal.net #Panic_Beach female music artist chat + + http://magpage.com/~sspan/ music clips/pics/links + +-----------------------------------------------------+ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 19:18:02 -0600 From: Mark Lowry Subject: Quick: Mock Turtles & Alice in Ectoland Hi, Need quick help: What year did the Mock Turtles release "Can You Dig It" ? And what album is it on, and is that the correct spelling of the title (it's not "Can U Dig It"?). I have looked all over the net and can't find it the year and the album name. They must've disappeared into one-hit-wonder hell. Also, can anybody think of references to "Alice in Wonderland" in pop music (besides Jefferson Airplane's "White Rabbit" and the video for Tom Petty's "Don't Come Around Here No More"?) Big thanks, Mark n.p. Nothing ... it's Buffy time. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 21:16:54 -0500 (EST) From: Michael Colford Subject: Re: new Suzanne Vega? On Tue, 23 Feb 1999, Jeffrey Burka wrote: > > > Stuart sez: > > > > Songbird22@aol.com wrote: > > > > > Anyone have any thoughts on the new best-of Suzanne Vega album?? > > > What are her best albums in your opinion? > > > As far as her best albums, I would say her first self-titled album > > and _99.9 F degrees_ are my favorites. > > Yeah. What he said. Interesting that her first and fourth are, at least > in our opinions, the pinnacle of her career to date. And I'm going to third that opinion! I've been a big Vega fan since her debut, when a good friend bought it, and I made fun of him until he put it on the turntable. Man, I can hear "Cracking" like it was the first time again. I was riveted! > > _99.9_ is very different. It's sort of an industrial-folk hybrid. Yeah, "Blood Makes Noise" really blew me away. I had gotten into a certain Trent Reznor, and I was thrilled that Suzanne was also dipping her musical pen into a little industrial noise. And I love the sensuousness of "99.9 F degrees." A truly chilling and haunting song. And "If You Were in my Movie," and "As Girls Go," a really terrific album. > > But really you can't go wrong with any of her albums. _Solitude > > Standing_, _Days of Open Hand_, and even _9 Objects of Desire_ (the > > weakest IMHO) have some of my favorite songs of hers on them. > > Okay, now we differ. I've always placed _Days of Open Hand_ at the > bottom of the list. When it was released, it bored me. While I came I'm got to agree with Jeff on this one. I really enjoy "9 Objects of Desire." It had some real staying power with me. I would put it up there with "Solitude Standing." But "Days of Open Hand" would have to be the "disappointment" if Suzanne had one. As Jeff also said, it has some superlative songs on it, but as a whole, there's something missing. Can't wait to see what she does next! And I'm still bummed that I'm going to miss her read from her new book tomorrow night! Argh! Michael n.p. Suzanne Vega - 9 Objects of Desire - -------------------------------------------------------------------- Michael Colford | Reading Public Library Head of Technical Services | Reading, Massachusetts colford@noblenet.org | *North of Boston Library Exchange* - -------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 21:34:40 -0500 From: Jeffrey Burka Subject: Re: new Suzanne Vega? Michael Colford sez: > And I'm still bummed that I'm going to miss her read from her new book > tomorrow night! Argh! You dunno the half of it. Last thursday, I blew off her reading in DC because I wanted to go to the Melissa Ferrick show. Then I decided I couldn't bear to go out (had just gotten back from a trip, my apartment was a disaster, I was exhausted, etc., etc...dunno how the proprietors of the house o' muzak manage it), so I blew off the Ferrick show. Of course, the Suzanne Vega thing was relatively short and closer to home, and I *could* have managed to get out for it, if I'd just given up on seeing Ferrick from the get-go. And instead I missed both. Or perhaps . Whatever. Anyway. At least I've seen them both live in the past, so am I really in any position to complain? jeff np: well, _Mercy_ is still playing in the bedroom, where I'm doing computer work, but Peter Himmelman's _Souler Opposites_ soundtrack is playing in the living room, so I can listen to it while baking a cake-like substance - -- |Jeffrey C. Burka|||http://www.cqi.com/~jburka ||||"I've got time to rest / | ||||||||||||| And I've got a clear, able mind that sees my life going fine. | | 'Cause everything I need is right here in my hands..." --Melissa Ferrick | ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 20:52:06 -0600 From: "girl with the curious hair" Subject: RE: pianists, keyboardists, etc *huff* actually, fiona doesn't play the piano on most of the songs on her album. check the liner notes or see her live, she only plays about four or five songs on the entire album. the most complex piano work is done by someone else. just setting it straight... jessa - -----Original Message----- From: owner-ecto@smoe.org [mailto:owner-ecto@smoe.org]On Behalf Of John Drummond Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 1999 6:31 PM To: ecto@smoe.org Subject: pianists, keyboardists, etc *huff* Y'all, Here I am again, tooting a rare, ragy trumpet. FIONA APPLE, people. Fiona's piano work is SO complex jazz. It's *real* jazz, she is using such intense rich chords with added 7ths and 13ths and all sorts of crazy shit like that, and her time changes... and God, it just flows like water. Perhaps she *is* popular with the YM-reading crowd, which of course means everyone on Ecto has to hate her ;p, and she *is* young and tends to stick her foot in her mouth, but I love her nonetheless. Her work connects with me on a much deeper level than the work of most singer-songwriters out there. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 22:20:24 -0500 From: HORTER!!! Subject: Re: Jingle vs Genius At 03:59 PM 2/23/99 -0600, kerry white wrote: > Hi, "Are you all sitty comftobole to squirm your boty? Then I'll >begin..." For the youngsters in the [audience]: a "jingle' was the term >for the incidiously designed musical catch phrases made in the '50s by >ad-men. They were made to rattle around in the skull after 2 or 3 >hearings and were flooded onto the radio and tv airways. It was >virtually impossible not to have one or more in your 'hum-cache' ready >to come out when you weren't ready. Actually, "jingles" began in the 1890's. Not necessarily on the radio, but in movie and vaudeville theatres, and by singers at department stores and musical performances. The first use of radio for advertising was in 1915 with Arthur B Church advertising radio parrts. (duh!) In the 1920's, many groups were actually named after products (so the Great Western Forum and 3Com Stadium are NOT new ideas). For example, the Cliquot Club Eskimos and the Lucky Strike Orchestra. The first radio jingle appeared in 1926 for "Wheaties." This continued growing through the 30's and 40's, with the Chiquita Banana Jingle, which Time magazine declared "the undisputed No. 1 on the jingle-jangle hit parade" in 1941. I'll stop the history lesson here, since I imagine I made my point. :-) This information was mostly taken from a timeline by Carrie McLaren and Rick Prelinger published in "Stay Free!" magazine Issue #15. Cause obviously, I ain't smart enough to know all this on my own. Now in terms of the genius vs jingle thing...that's just a question of perception. And a value judgement. Horter!!! np: Warpaint: HR (thanks Bill!!) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 22:05:29 -0600 From: Mark Lowry Subject: New (to me) music Hi, Just wanted to mention my latest findings/acquisitions/musings. 1. Christine Lavin = One Wild Night in Concert > I usually don't like live CDs, I just don't. (The Indigo Girls' 1200 Curfews is one of the few I can listen to). Even with better technology and production values these days ... I just get really mad hearing people clapping and hollering during songs. With this one, however, I'm getting over that problem. I've sorta followed her over the years. Well, OK, I only have _Attainable Love_ and _Shining My Flashlight on the Moon_, and a former roommate had a Four Bitchin' Babes disc. There's a few songs here I'm familiar with, but the others, well, I love 'em already. I've never seen her in concert, but that will change this weekend. The only annoying thing about this CD is its jewel case. I've never seen this kind before. It's that plasti-glass stuff that most jewel cases are made out of it, but the thing that holds the CD slides out, and then folds in down so you can pull the jacket out if you need to. It reminds me of those cheap cardboard/slidey thing cases that I hate so much. (Gosh, I'm getting really technical here, huh?) Does anyone know, did CL come up with this new design now that she has her own record company? I'm just not digging it. And while we're on that subject ... who has opinions on jewel cases? I like the good old-fashioned open-and-shut variety. The most vile are the aforementioned carboard ones with that plastic thing that slides out. Tori's been doing that lately. I cut them up and put them in a regular case, that way I can read the spine as it sits on my CD shelf. Vic Chesnutt's quadra-fold cardboard case for _The Salesman and Bernadette_ is pretty annoying too. I don't mind the cardboard ones that open-and-shut, though, like for Tori's domestic single for _Winter_. But I digress upon my digression. 2. Amber Asylum = Songs of Sex and Death > Don't know much about them, but I like Black Tape for a Blue Girl and other Projekt things I have. I know this is a Relapse band, but I like anything with that ethereal/goth/female vocal thing going. 3. Hedwig and the Angry Inch (Original Cast Recording) > Not really Ecto music, but it totally rocks out. Saw this Off-Broadway back in September, and have to say it's one of the most original and best pieces of theater I've seen in a long while. The soundtrack was just released, and I can't believe how much I'm listening to it. Rolling Stone called it the "first rock musical that truly rocks," and I'd say this is an accurate statement. Much better than those pseudo-rock musicals like Rent, Jesus Christ Superstar, Joseph and the Amazing whatever, etc etc. Sometimes, John Cameron Mitchell (lyricist and, as Hedwig, vocalist on most of the tracks) can sound like PIL-era Lydon, and the lyrics are excellent. And did I mention that the music totally rocks? I definitely recommend. And if you can, see the show! 4. Susan McKeown, Cathie Ryan and Robin Spielberg = Mother: Songs Celebrating Mothers & Motherhood > I've seen Susan's name pass through here several times, but never really bothered to look her up. After hearing this, I think I will. This is a really nice and mellow collection of, I'm assuming, previously released tracks. Susan has a stunning voice, and I'm always up for a little Irish-influenced music. OK, bye. Mark n.p. Hedwig ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 20:41:24 PST From: "N. Janee' Hunter" Subject: Re: trashmonk, For more information on Trashmonk, see below page... http://www.serve.com/brenta/nlc/trashmonk.html (Some copies have already leaked out. The full album should be available by mid-March in the UK and in the US in April) Janee' > >On Mon, 22 Feb 1999, girl with the curious hair wrote: > >> trashmonk: this one stood out more than any others. it feels like it was recorded underwater, his voice is absolutely hypnotic, it truly does sound like elliot smith produced by the beastie boys, or bob dylan with samplers. then i find out this guy wrote songs with pink floyd and did that song in the 80's, life in a northern town. does anyone have any more information about this guy? the magazine came with a short interview, but i'm really interested in how his album, 'mona lisa overdrive' is.... >Yup, the guy used to be with The Dream Academy, which ranked among the much-mentioned here in days of yore (or perhaps days of mine :-]). He was featured on one of those ubiquitous VH1 "Where Are They Now?" shows. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 23:51:48 -0500 From: Jeffrey Burka Subject: Re: New (to me) music Mark Lowry wrote: > I usually don't like live CDs, I just don't. For me, it *really* depends on the artist. Some live albums I utterly adore (_Alchemy_ by Dire Straits and _Stage Diving_ by Peter Himmelman come to mind, and I've got some boots that are out of this world (the sarah show broadcast in boston during the solace tour? heaven!) oh, and I was just listening to _Seconds Out_ yesterday, and I'd forgotten how much I enjoy it) But then there's boring live stuff, or mediocre live stuff, or stuff that just inspires me to pull out the original albums. > And while we're on that subject ... who has opinions on jewel cases? I'm pretty traditional on 'em too, though I've been happy with some of the recent variants on the double disc variety. Anyone buy Sting's _The Soul Cages_ when it first came out? It was one of, if not *the* original digicrap-packaged disc. AND IT CAME IN A LONGBOX! Eep! Actually, I kinda miss longboxes. Somewhere I have a collection of 'em (probably 75-ish?), though I think many of them got water-damaged. > 4. Susan McKeown, Cathie Ryan and Robin Spielberg = Mother: Songs > Celebrating Mothers & Motherhood > I've seen Susan's name pass through > here several times, but never really bothered to look her up. After > hearing this, I think I will. This is a really nice and mellow > collection of, I'm assuming, previously released tracks. Susan has a > stunning voice, and I'm always up for a little Irish-influenced music. Just had a look on musicblvd and didn't recognize any titles, so (a) looks like you're wrong about the previously-released-tracks assumption, and (b) looks like I need to add a disc to the list. Heaven forbid Susan should be a principal on an album I don't own it!! (why hasn't this one been mentioned here before? Or did I miss it?) Thanks for the tip... jeff np: _And the Angels Swing_, the Bruce Kaminsky Klezmer Jazz Ensemble - -- |Jeffrey C. Burka|||http://www.cqi.com/~jburka ||||"I've got time to rest / | ||||||||||||| And I've got a clear, able mind that sees my life going fine. | | 'Cause everything I need is right here in my hands..." --Melissa Ferrick | ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 00:21:52 -0500 From: Mark Miazga Subject: Re: new Suzanne Vega? Songbird22@aol.com wrote: > Anyone have any thoughts on the new best-of Suzanne Vega album?? I can't afford it yet. Please, please, please release it in the USA soon. > What are her best albums in your opinion? I'm a huge Suzanne fan. I'd say her best is 99.9 F. It's a terrific mixture of sounds and textures, a neat blending of industrial and folk that blows me away. "Blood Makes Noise" is a standout, but great songs like the title track, "Blood Sings," "If You Were in My Movie," "When Heroes Go Down", etc, etc, etc are also stellar. "Solitude Standing" is next for me (can't argue with "Gypsy", "Luke", "Tom's Diner" on one album), "9 Objects of Desire" is next, followed by her eponymous debut. The only one that's ever disappointed me is "Days of Open Hand," but even that's grew on me somewhat. - -- Mark Miazga e-mail: miazgama@pilot.msu.edu 580 West Akers Hall East Lansing, MI 48825 (517) 353-3321 http://www.msu.edu/~miazgama Program Coordinator of The Common Grounds Coffeehouse. Cheap Concerts every Friday night in the basement of Akers Hall. Schedule, booking, and mailing list info at: http://www.msu.edu/~miazgama/coffee "In the beginning there was nothing. God said, 'Let there be light!' And there was light. There was still nothing, but you could see it a whole lot better." - -- Ellen DeGeneres "Life's short and hard, like a bodybuilding elf." -- Jimmy Pop Ali ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 23:27:27 -0600 From: Carolyn Andre Subject: Re: New (to me) music At 11:51 PM 2/23/99 -0500, Jeffrey wrote: > > >Mark Lowry wrote: > >> 4. Susan McKeown, Cathie Ryan and Robin Spielberg = Mother: Songs >> Celebrating Mothers & Motherhood > I've seen Susan's name pass through >> here several times, but never really bothered to look her up. After >> hearing this, I think I will. This is a really nice and mellow >> collection of, I'm assuming, previously released tracks. Susan has a >> stunning voice, and I'm always up for a little Irish-influenced music. > >Just had a look on musicblvd and didn't recognize any titles, so (a) looks >like you're wrong about the previously-released-tracks assumption, and >(b) looks like I need to add a disc to the list. Heaven forbid Susan >should be a principal on an album I don't own it!! > >(why hasn't this one been mentioned here before? Or did I miss it?) > It is a new album, a project that Susan and Robin and Cathie started the idea for back when they were recording the Thomas Moore Christmas television program. You haven't heard of it yet because (I've been sitting on my hands since the 'beta' copy I got last year) it is scheduled for a March release. I do know that some radio stations have played some cuts, but that's about all. There is some info about it on Susan's website, under the news or press section. and yes, you want to buy it . Mark is right that it is a mellow-sounding album. It also achieves the effect of an Irish sesiun - where songs (vocal) are interspersed with instrumentals, and instrumentals are usually sets of 3 different timings - between the vocals of the 3 women, Robin's piano work, and additional instrumentation. Carolyn (out in albuquerque - but haven't called Neal yet) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 22:07:44 -0800 From: Neile Graham Subject: Jewel boxes (was Re: New (to me) music) Mark Lowry wrote: >And while we're on that subject ... who has opinions on jewel cases? I do. They're too damn wide. Most of our have been donated to the public library, and we keep discs fro any artist we have more than one disc from in vinyl cases. We save one jewel box to put a name label in so we can actually find artists we're looking for and voila! All our discs are still in two bookcases rather than taking over our entire house. People do wonder how we managed to find so many discs with peacock blue colouring though (that's the paper we print the names on). I tell them that's how we choose which discs to buy. The added benefit of this is that anyone who stole our discs would have to find jewelboxes to sell them in. - --Neile n.p. Rasputina, _Thanks for the Ether_ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Neile Graham ...... http://www.sff.net/people/neile ....... neile@sff.net Les Semaines: A Weekly Journal . http://www.sff.net/people/neile/semaines The Ectophiles' Guide to Good Music ....... http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 00:24:33 EST From: FAMarcus@aol.com Subject: pianists In a message dated 2/23/99 1:09:29 PM Eastern Standard Time, bill@wagill.com writes: << as well as Keith Emerson, posses much technical ability and artistic ability, and they too have put out emotionally evocative works. >> I saw Keith play on 3 different ocassions in the 70's and nothing has surpassed that for me from a pianist point of view. I have a background playing the piano so it's an instrument I take notice of. I've seen Tori three times and even though I appreciate and love her much more as an artist, his was the performance that i was most impressed with as a keyboard player. And while I'm on the subject of EMERSON, LAKE AND, PALMER............. male lead singers don't really motivate me but Greg Lakes vocals on songs such as Lucky Man and Take a Pebble for ELP and his vocals on THE COURT OF THE CRIMSON KING for King Crimson will always stay with me as my favorites by a male. This comes from someone who does not like to live in the past. fred ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 23:14:55 -0700 From: neal copperman Subject: Re: Quick: Mock Turtles & Alice in Ectoland At 7:18 PM -0600 2/23/99, Mark Lowry wrote: >Also, can anybody think of references to "Alice in Wonderland" in pop >music (besides Jefferson Airplane's "White Rabbit" and the video for Tom >Petty's "Don't Come Around Here No More"?) On the Wild Colonial's debut album, "Fruit of Life", they do a song called Alice. In my memory, there are Alice in Wonderland references in it, but I can't really remember the song well and I don't have the disc with me. It was released in 1994 on Geffen. neal np: That's Not Funny - Joan Baez at UNM Popejoy Hall nr: Death Comes For The Archbishop - Willa Cather ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 00:36:08 EST From: FAMarcus@aol.com Subject: Re: Keyboardists In a message dated 2/23/99 2:16:31 PM Eastern Standard Time, Songbird22@aol.com writes: << Other really good pianist: Emm Gryner, Sarah McLachlan, Paula Cole, >> I want to say that i really really love paula cole but as a pianist she just gets by. very simplistic stuff. nowhere in tori's class. I was even under impressed when i saw her at the TLA in philly. But only with her piano playing. Everything else about her performance was incredible from my seat dead center front row. I even got to high five her on her way back for an encore. It was the cap to an amazing night for me. I guess i impress easily. fred ------------------------------ End of ecto-digest V5 #67 *************************