From: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org (ecto-digest) To: ecto-digest@smoe.org Subject: ecto-digest V4 #446 Reply-To: ecto@smoe.org Sender: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Monday, December 21 1998 Volume 04 : Number 446 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Jennifer Nobel/Nobel [Matthew Woods ] Lori Carson in NYC on the 23rd. ["Drew Harrington" ] Psychological benefits of being a fan ["Graham" ] Yuletide Greetings [Krys & Geoff ] Tori on Rosie 12-22-98 [Patrick Varker ] Re: Help on Seasonal mix tape [Stuart Myerburg ] Re: Help on Seasonal mix tape [HORTER!!! ] re: Pee-Wee ["Tom Ditto" ] Re: Love-hounds (was Re: more Happy stuff plus) [desmond in a tutu ] Re: Help on Seasonal mix tape [desmond in a tutu ] Tori Amos vs People Magazine [Eponine ] Re: Love-hounds & Milla (was Re: more Happy stuff plus) [Eponine ] Re: Love-hounds & Milla (was Re: more Happy stuff plus) [Jeff Burka ] Over the Rhine/Cowboy Junkies ["Emily Perkins" ] Re: MERIDIEM Bay area dates [Neile Graham ] Re: MERIDIEM Bay area dates ["Joseph S. Zitt" ] Fwd: Susan McKeown/nyc performance (Tuesday, 12/22) [Michael Curry ] HTR on MTV? (was Re: Per request- HTR on AOL (Long)) [Joe Casadonte ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 21 Dec 98 04:04:45 EST From: Matthew Woods Subject: Re: Jennifer Nobel/Nobel The Watcher says: >Hi, >I just read in a local paper that a Jennifer Noble is scheduled to >play at a club here. Now, I know that a Jennifer Nobel is the lead singer >of the group Grey Eye Glances. >Could this be she (a simple mispelling aside)? Does she ever >perform without the rest of GEG, and would she have come to St. Louis? I don't remember where I heard this, it was either from their websight, or the live GEG performance that I attended, but I know that Jennifer Nobel had no musical career prior to GEG. Jennifer was very shy and needed to be persuaded to join GEG in the first place. I would guess, therefore, that the "Jennifer Noble" is not her. I can't tell you for certain though. - -Matt ____________________________________________________________________ Get free e-mail and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 01:21:07 -0800 From: "Drew Harrington" Subject: Lori Carson in NYC on the 23rd. Just in case ayone who would be interested might not have heard: Lori Carson 23-Dec-98 Mercury Lounge 217 E. Houston Street New York, NY 10002 Lori is scheduled to go on at 10, but you'll want to get there early to get a good seat. Mary Cutrefello and Karen Deberg are opening at 8 and 9 respectively. Tickets are available at www.ticketweb.com Wish I could make the show... If you make it let us know how it was. Thanks, Drew ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 11:02:58 -0000 From: "Graham" Subject: Psychological benefits of being a fan Hi Ectomorphs! I am a lurker from England who is yet to listen to anything by the lady who delights in the name of Happy Rhodes, but I live in hope! There is an interesting debate going on here on the psychological benefits of being an obsessive fan. I would also like to know where the line is between obsessive fan and stalker. I can remember in the 60's friends of mine who would camp outside Mick Jaggers home in the hope of getting a glimpse of him. Was this stalking? Or is stalking purely in the mind of the stalked? What do Ectomorphs think? Graham Check out my female vocals website 'Celestial Voices' http://www.graham.lubin.com/music.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 08:31:00 +0000 From: Krys & Geoff Subject: Yuletide Greetings *** *** *** *** *** *** *** Happy Christmas, Merry Yule, Happy Holidays... However you are celebrating, or even if you don't, We wish you a good holiday and all the very best For 1999... Love and peace, - -- Krys & Geoff XXXXXXXXXXXX ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 08:49:34 -0500 (EST) From: Patrick Varker Subject: Tori on Rosie 12-22-98 I'm posting to you guy's because my posts to torinews will not go through. John was going to look into this but... Anyway, I know everyone's been wondering if Tori's appearance tomorrow on Rosie's show is new, IT IS !!! Tori was in New York last week and taped the show then, she's now back home for some long needed r&r. Also, anyone needing to get a friend a cd for x-mas should consider the "Choirgirl" cd as we need to get this certified platinum. Believe me that would be the "coolest" thing we could do for Tori, I know it would mean a lot to her!!! Patrick ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 09:40:26 -0500 From: Stuart Myerburg Subject: Re: Help on Seasonal mix tape "C. K. Coney" wrote: > I too *love* Jeff Noon! Stuart, I even picked up (rescued, as I call it) > several hardcover copies of "Pollen" at MediaPlay, for 4 bucks each. That > book is true art, better imo than "Vurt", which is of course also true > art. I've done the same thing with copies of _Pollen_ that I've seen on the discount table at Chapter 11. It boggles my mind that his books are ending up with such a fate. > P.S. Stuart, did you go to the Jane S. show in Atlanta? I don't remember > seeing you post about it...but I may missed it somehow. No. Many factors worked against my being able to go. Luckily, I had seen her the year before. I don't remember seeing anything on Ecto about the concert at all. How was it? Stuart np: Twice Upon a Time - Siouxsie & the Banshees - -- ______________________________________________ Stuart Myerburg http://userwww.service.emory.edu/~stuart ______________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 10:29:10 -0500 From: HORTER!!! Subject: Re: Help on Seasonal mix tape At 09:40 AM 12/21/98 -0500, Stuart Myerburg wrote: >"C. K. Coney" wrote: >> I too *love* Jeff Noon! Stuart, I even picked up (rescued, as I call it) >> several hardcover copies of "Pollen" at MediaPlay, for 4 bucks each. That >> book is true art, better imo than "Vurt", which is of course also true > art. >I've done the same thing with copies of _Pollen_ that I've seen on the >discount table at Chapter 11. It boggles my mind that his books are >ending up with such a fate. I think almost ALL books end up with such a fate...no matter how popular (or unpopular) they are. Publishers have a choice, they either don't print enough (which means they lose money) or they print too many (which they then distribute as "remainders", thereby losing less money.) I have seen copies of Vurt and Pollen show up on "remainder" tables and have gladly picked them up for those I knew would enjoy them. I have also been dismayed to see hardcover copies of books I only recently bought at full price for sale at cheap. Such is life... Horter nr: Angela's Ashes (finally getting to it...) np: The Dandy Warhols-The Dandy Warhols Come Down ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 10:31:15 -0500 From: "Tom Ditto" Subject: re: Pee-Wee >From: burp@mindspring.com (Scott Burger) >Subject: Pee-Wee's Playhouse Xmas Special >Just watched it last night on video. I miss Pee-Wee. Had great moments with >Charo, Dinah Shore, Whoopie Goldberg, and tons of others. Also, great >rendition of "Jinglebell Rock" done by K.D. Lang. Highly recommended. Pee-Wee was "impeached." Tom ditto@taconic.net "Do you copy? Over..." ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 10:46:38 -0500 From: desmond in a tutu Subject: Re: Love-hounds (was Re: more Happy stuff plus) also sprach Monroe/Fisher: >I just un subscribed from love-hounds after 3 years and what a relief. Some >mornings I would collect my email and find 30 or more posts of virtually >nothing but petty bickering and personal attacks. The nit-picking is so bad >I'd compare it to a full lint catcher about to burst into flames at any >moment. Inevitably it does. How DOES this list avoid that? (rhetorical?) the non-rhetorical answer is simple -- ecto's not gatewayed into usenet. woj ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 10:42:46 -0500 From: desmond in a tutu Subject: Re: Help on Seasonal mix tape also sprach Marion Kippers: >Also in the seasonal section there was Jane Siberry's "Child". I >haven't listened to that one yet, what are your opinions on this >album? (How) does it compare to for example "Teenager"? _child_ is a live recording, culling tracks from four performances of seasonal music at the bottom line in new york city in 1997 (or was it 1996?). it's a mixture of traditional and contemporary songs, but most are rather obscure. as meredith pointed out, each song has been indelibly marked with jane's personality so it's a really unique collection. we were at one of the performances (the last one on the last night, if i remember correctly) and the album really brings us back -- highly recommended! woj n.p. cop shoot cop -- release ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 10:57:03 -0500 From: desmond in a tutu Subject: Re: Help on Seasonal mix tape also sprach neal copperman: >When I was shopping I saw but didn't buy the 2 Tori import Spark singles >($10 a pop). One of them had a version of Have Yourself A Merry Little >Christmas on it. and a most stark rendition it is. not terribly festive. the theory is that it's a reaction to her miscarriage -- either lamenting the lack of a child to spend christmas with or wishing the spirit of her child a merry christmas. might not be the best thing to put on a festive sampler. >Dzintars, a Russian(?) vocal ensemble that is stunningly beautiful has >these songs (Christmas Masquerade (Mummery Song) and Oi Hanuke) on their >fine album songs of amber (on Ryko). dzintars are latvian. also sprach "Holly J Tominack" : >The Love Spirals Downwardss Track comes from a most >unusual disc called +ACI-Excelsis: A Dark Noel.+ACI- Can you >believe it? A GOTH Christmas album+ACE- It. Is. BIZARRE+ACE- i think it's pretty amusing. loveliescrushing's deconstructive take on "jingle bells" is almost worth the price of admission. plus you get the hear a lynn canfield-less area. woj ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 10:34:25 -0800 From: Eponine Subject: Tori Amos vs People Magazine People Magazine included Tori's 'From the Choirgirl Hotel' in their "Worst of Song" for 1998! My mom gets People magazine and I confess I usually read it, too, although this makes me very ashamed as I feel People is CRAP that panders to people with low mentality. (Since I read it, too, though, I realize I am only slamming myself here!) Anyway, I remember the bad review they gave it when it came out; the reviewer was annoyed by the nonsensical Tori-esque phrase "lollipop gestapo" that appears in the song "Hotel". OK, I admit it's a goofy expression, and while it doesn't particularly annoy ME I understand that it's the type of expression that could just annoy the heck out of someome. But to let it color your judgement THAT much? Hmmm. I mean, hey, he's entitled to his opinion if he didn't like 'Choirgirl', but to stick her on a "Worst Of" list just doesn't seem like something any musically knowledgeable person would do. My mom said, "Oh I see they don't like your Tori Amos too much." (This is how my mom talks.) I said, "What??!! You mean because of People Magazine's bad review??!! Since when is People Magazine a music magazine?" But, alas, people like my mom who believe EVERYTHING in People Magazine now think Tori's album was bad and even that she's not well-respected. Oh, well. Those of us "in the know" know better. Love, Eponine ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 11:17:32 -0800 From: Eponine Subject: Re: Love-hounds & Milla (was Re: more Happy stuff plus) Hi Wayne, fellow Love Hounds defector!! So you were on for three years? I was on for about two weeks. I'm not putting the Love Hounds down, because I still consider myself one in spirit, but I left when someone went OUT OF HIS WAY to hurtle a vituperative, venomous slew of explosive hate my way. In short, he hurt my feelings. So I took my marbles and went home!! Amen to your sentiment hoping KaTie's next is "better than 'The Red Shoes'". A lot of people loved 'The Red Shoes', though, so you may be challenged on that (although the Ecto gang doesn't send hate mail!) : ) Also, what is all this talk of Milla Jovovich? I didn't know she had a CD. I lot of the Ectophiles seem to like it. Can you desccribe the music for me? I wouldn't hold it against her that she's a model. I liked the album another model - Rosie Vela - made back in the 80s. Plus, I'm a Russian-American myself, and so may actually be predisposed to like it! : ) Take care, Eponine Monroe/Fisher wrote: > Eponine wrote: > > >Xenu's Sister wrote: > >> At 11:59 AM 12/16/98 -0800, Eponine wrote: > >> >Hi Vickie, > >> > > >> (By the way, I only this year was informed by > >> >someone at Love Hounds that in "Houdini" it's NOT "Roosevelt believes" > >> >but "Rosabel Believe"!!) > >> > >> I remember that. I got flamed because I responded to that thread > >> by saying that I thought Kate was a bit silly for not researching > >> that Bess wasn't *really* contacted by Harry. > > >Oh I remember your post, too!!! My dear, but you DID take a risk by making > even > >a teensy-weensy criticism of Kate!!! : ) > > But recited 40 hail Catherines before bed that night? Right? > > >So what's up on Love Hounds these days? If KaTie's Mystery Album does come out > >in 1999 - a big "IF" - won't that be six years between albums? Didn't 'The Red > >Shoes' come out in 1993? I new record, even for Kate! I hope we get > something > >soon, at any rate. > > As long as it's better than "The Red Shoes," take all the time you need, Kate. > > I just un subscribed from love-hounds after 3 years and what a relief. Some > mornings I would collect my email and find 30 or more posts of virtually > nothing but petty bickering and personal attacks. The nit-picking is so bad > I'd compare it to a full lint catcher about to burst into flames at any > moment. Inevitably it does. How DOES this list avoid that? (rhetorical?) > > Take care. > Wayne > > n.p. Milla - The Peopletree Sessions (I just don't know about this one. > I've played it 3 times now and I'm still not sure if I like it. It's > interesting but I'm not sure it's enjoyable. I keep thinking of the Velvet > Underground.) > n.r. The Handmaid's Tale - Margaret Atwood ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 11:48:55 -0800 From: Eponine Subject: Re: Delayed Reaction/Saddest Song Hi Marcel, Oh God, you're not kidding. "Just being alive, it can really hurt". I can't name just one saddest song, but what pops into my head is Richard & Linda's Thompson's "End of the Rainbow": "life seems so rosy in the cradle but I'll be your friend I'll tell you what's in store there's nothing at the end of the rainbow there's nothing to grow up for anymore..." Love, E. Marcel Kshensky wrote: > Dear Ectoboysandgirls, > > Been lurking for a looong while. We moved and had twin girls. Other > than that, not much happening :) > > I was listening to Kate in the car the other day and remembered the > string from a few months ago about "the saddest song." I have to tell > you, every time I hear "Moments of Pleasure" it brings tears to my > eyes. And, I still find her voice the clearest, strongest and most > moving. > > Nuff said. > > NP:Clara Thomas > Ednaswap, Wonderland Park ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 12:46:43 -0500 (EST) From: Jeff Burka Subject: Re: Love-hounds & Milla (was Re: more Happy stuff plus) eponine asks: > Also, what is all this talk of Milla Jovovich? I didn't know she had a CD. It was released back in late '93 under the name Milla, so filed under M. Produced by Rupert Hine, it's basically pop folk music, largely acoustic arrangements, with surprisingly mature lyrics given that Milla claims to have written most of the songs around age 16 (the album was released when she was 18). It's been a *very* popular album amongst the ecto set, though of course there are some who can't stand it. Lyrical themes range from genocide to alien visitation to suicide to prostitution and just about anywhere in between. It was high on my list of albums from '93, and would probably rank it somewhere among my favorite albums of the decade -- 5 years later, and I still listen to it on a fairly regular basis. Given your seeming interest in the folkier, acoustic side of things, I'm guessing you'd like it. It's hard to imagine you couldn't find samples *somewhere* onlien. > Plus, I'm a Russian-American myself, and so may actually be predisposed > to like it! : ) Somebody will surely correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe Milla is actually Ukrainian -- a fact I mention simply because my own great-grandfather emigrated to the US from Ukraine back in '08, and a friend in grad school who was visiting the US from her home in Moscow was always quick to make the distinction between Russians and Ukrainians. ;-) jeff np: _The Red Shoes_ / Kate Bush ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 14:11:43 -0500 From: Steve I Subject: Sarah Slean show Hiya philes, I've been meaning to post about Sarah Slean's show on Wednesday but haven't gotten around to it, so I'll steal a post by my friend James to Navy Soup (Sarah Slean mailing list hosted by smoe). >Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 10:04:10 -0500 >From: James McGarry >To: navy-soup@smoe.org >Subject: Re: Sarah and her mail > >Heya Tab!! > >On Thu, 17 Dec 1998, Tab Siddiqui wrote: >> All right! All the ol' classics from the Slean canon. ;-) "Playing >> Cards With Judas" is also one of my absolute faves (esp. live!), so it's >> going to wonderful to finally hear a studio treatment of that one. > >Be prepared to be blown away... ;-) > >> Don't tell me I missed the infamous string section once *again*! >> Oh, well. C'mon, people who went, let's get some reviews going >> here. > > You don't want to hear this Tab. Musically, this was probably the best >Sarah Slean concert ever. The debut of two new songs, one, "Elliot" is >_particularly_ good. {*James ponders this understatement*} It was >phenomenal! You've _got_ to hear it! _Got_ to! > > A very reworked version of "I Know" expanding on some earlier >experiments circa, maybe January. I feel I will never want to listen to >the version on the Universe cassette again, these changes have breathed >new life into that song. It was like I was hearing it for the first time, >its power redoubled to an almost overwhelming level. If this was all that >was new or better it would've been worth it. I've heard this song >countless times on record and neigh on twenty times live and last night >was singularly the best version ever. It was simply beautiful. > > I don't recall seeing Sarah so very passionate about her music, it might >have been the fact that there were so many of her friends there, that >she's been practising and recording, the swoon of fervent love, the >Holiday spirit, but whatever it was... ...WOW! Interestingly, at least for >me, WOW! was the sum total of my notes the first time I saw Sarah. I'd say >that descriptive is more applicable now than ever before. And it looks >damned good on her. > > I recall some 50's footage of Glenn Gould at the piano, trying to >explain some musical concept. Stumbling over the words; so inadequate to >the task. Then seeing an inner light and a joyously pained expression as >he turns to the keyboard to speak for him. Music sustaining his entire >existence. I saw that expression several times last night on Sarah's face. > > If you had to miss a gig Tab, why, oh why did you pick this one?... > >> Oh, and did anyone go to the 'No Place Like Home' benefit on Tuesday? >> I'm really interested in hearing how that one went... > > I've heard a short Sarah set, but that it went well... > >James. >Who is so _very_ proud of Sarah and so in awe of this very transformative >stage. Sarah had with her her regular band (Kevin Fox on cello, Mark Mariash on drums, Sjanie ____ on backup vox) plus a string section (two violins and an additional cello). I second James' assessment of "Elliot" as a great song. Good news too; it's currently planned for inclusion for the upcoming album (hopefully Feb). Also "I Know" gave me shivers for the first time in a year and a half (I've seen her play it so many times that I became somewhat immune to its effects). Anyway I'll let you all know when Sarah puts out her next album... Steve ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 14:25:54 -0500 From: "Emily Perkins" Subject: Over the Rhine/Cowboy Junkies - ---------------------- Forwarded by Emily Perkins on 12/21/98 02:17 PM - --------------------------- Please respond to owner-over-the-rhine@actwin.com To: over-the-rhine-announce@actwin.com cc: (bcc: Emily Perkins) Subject: Here are a few stateside tour dates that will find Over the Rhine opening for Cowboy Junkies. 1/13/99 Boston MA The Roxy 1/14/99 Portsmouth NH Music Hall 1/15/99 NYC NY Irving Plaza 1/16/99 Washington DC 930 Club OTR will continue to open for Cowboy Junkies in New Zealand and Australia. These dates are to come soon. - --------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ------------------------------------- | To subscribe/unsubscribe: Majordomo@ActWin.com | Subject is ignored | message: SUBSCRIBE (or UNSUBSCRIBE) listname | The three versions of this list (listnames) are: | over-the-rhine discussion list | over-the-rhine-digest digest version of discussion list | over-the-rhine-announce to only receive "official" messages from OTR ***************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 11:38:36 -0800 From: Neile Graham Subject: Re: MERIDIEM Bay area dates A couple of Meridiem dates for those interested in what woj describes as "experimental jazz; postmodern fusion". - --Neile, who's in Seattle where it's SNOWING. Sheesh. >Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 10:53:47 -0800 >From: Percy Howard >To: Neile Graham >Subject: Re: MERIDIEM > >You are in the Bay area, right? MERIDIEM will be playing The Great >American Music Hall on 1/13, and Palookaville in Santa Cruz on 1/12. >Take care. > >Percy - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Neile Graham ..... http://www.sff.net/people/neile ..... neile@sff.net The Ectophiles' Guide to Good Music .... http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 14:07:54 -0600 (CST) From: "Joseph S. Zitt" Subject: Re: MERIDIEM Bay area dates On Mon, 21 Dec 1998, Neile Graham wrote: > > > A couple of Meridiem dates for those interested in what woj describes as > "experimental jazz; postmodern fusion". To cause more people's ears to swivel forward: Meridiem includes, I believe, Bill Laswell on bass, Fred Frith on guitar, and Charles Hayward on drums. Yow. > --Neile, who's in Seattle where it's SNOWING. Sheesh. - -- Joe, who's in DC where it's BORING. *thud* - - ---------1---------1---------1---------1---------1---------1---------- |||/ Joseph Zitt ===== jzitt@humansystems.com ===== Human Systems \||| ||/ Maryland? = <*> SILENCE: The John Cage Mailing List <*> = ecto \|| |/ http://www.realtime.net/~jzitt ====== Comma: Voices of New Music \| ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 17:21:21 -0500 From: Michael Curry Subject: Fwd: Susan McKeown/nyc performance (Tuesday, 12/22) >Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 16:28:43 -0500 >To: chanting@earthlink.net >From: Sheila-na-Gig Music >Subject: Susan McKeown/nyc performance > >Hello: > >Susan McKeown is performing in an intimate late evening event tomorrow >evening Tuesday 22 December at The Living Room (Allen & Stanton; >212/533-7235) at 10:00PM. The set will feature songs original and >traditional (with some of the seasonal mode) from Susan and fellow Dubliner >Gerry Leonard, with a special performance of songs from their BOWSIE >project, an ambitious collaboration which sets traditional Irish songs in >an ethno-ambient soundscape. Accompanying will be Jay Bellerose (drums), >Paul Brien (bass) and Jon Spurney (guitar/harmonium). > >Thanks. >And Happy Holidays! > > Sheila-na-Gig Music, NYC > http://www.house-of-music.com/susan/ > >http://www.susanmckeown.com > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 22:04:53 -0500 From: Greg Dunn Subject: Carrie Newcomer Solstice Concerts (LONG) It's that time of the year again -- time for the annual series of Solstice concerts that Carrie Newcomer has taken to performing every December. Having enjoyed the last couple of years' shows, I was definitely looking forward to this season. My anticipation was heightened when I learned that she would be recording two of the shows for future release on a limited edition CD. Profits from the CD will be donated to the Indiana Planned Parenthood organization, one of the groups which Carrie strongly supports. Anyway, I arrived at the Indianapolis Arts Center with time to spare before her 8 PM performance, hoping that tickets would be on sale at the door since I had not bought advance admission for both shows. To my relief and delight, Carrie's husband and co-conspirator Robert Meitus was indeed selling tickets. I bought one, and chatted with Robert (whom I hadn't seen since Father's Day -- a long story). He jocularly said that since they were recording, we'd have to dispense with our usual shouted obscenities and calls for "Free Bird" from the front row. :-) As if! My friends had saved a seat in the front row, indeed, and we settled in to await the music. The Arts Center has a truly magnificent little auditorium, well suited for medium-sized acoustic shows, and they appeared to have a modest high-quality PA supporting the performer. The major difference from most of Carrie's small shows was the presence of an AKG vocal mic and a pair of audience mics on stage, for the recording. Only a few minutes after 8, the doors were closed at the rear of the auditorium and Robert spoke briefly at the mic, introducing Carrie, who took the stage to a restrained but heartfelt round of applause. She launched right into her solo set, with killer renditions of"I'm On Your Side", "Moon over Tucson" and "Hold On" which were among the best I have ever heard -- plus new songs "This Too Will Pass" and "Wings." The audience was spookily quiet during the songs, in direct contrast to the cheering and whistling which punctuated the loud applause in between. Carrie took an inordinate amount of time making sure her tuning was correct for the recordings, and the respectful silence was a bit cowing. "TALK... AMONGST... YOURSELVES!" she stage-whispered into the mic on a couple of occasions while tuning, which broke the spell and got us all laughing. Indeed, the only audible response from the audience beyond the applause was the occasional compliment; once, when Carrie marvelled at the respectful silence, "You guys are so polite... it's awesome..." one of the front row gang spoke up, "Your lyrics are awesome!" which earned a dimpled smile from her. No performance is perfect of course, but Carrie delivered an hour of stirring, passionate music which was definitely among the best I've heard in the 10 years we've been attending her shows. I was very glad it was being recorded! She took a 20-minute break at this point, giving us all a chance to stretch and move around; in typical Carrie fashion, she came out to the lobby and mingled with old and new friends alike, signing autographs and catching up on news. Part 2 of the show was a bit more relaxed, probably because some of the tension of recording had dissipated thanks to the very successful part 1. Carrie stretched out with some of her old favorites "Up In The Attic", "My Mama Said It's True", and "My Father's Only Son" as well as more new tunes "Sparrow" and the misleadingly titled "Downtown" which is really an ode to homecoming... As is becoming customary, she closed the show with a singalong of traditional Christmas carols -- and in addition, a wonderful rendition of Bob Marley's "Redemption Song". She returned for an encore, after the standing ovation, with one of her self-described 'mooshy' love songs, "My Yes of Yes" -- and it was too soon over. Definitely one of the ten best concerts of this year! Naturally, to round out the weekend, I had to attend the Sunday night show in Bloomington's Waldron Art Center. This has been the home for at least one Solstice concert every year, and with it being Carrie's home town crowd, I expected a really supportive and enthusiastic crowd. Having already bought tickets for this show, I arrived only about a half hour prior to the curtain time of 7 PM. The place was packed, and again I was lucky to have a seat saved (second row). It was definitely a more "present" crowd Sunday, to use Robert's phrase after the show. Unfortunately, in addition to the usual crowd noises of sneezing and coughing (notable only because of their eerie absence Friday night), someone brought a couple of cranky 2-year-olds into the theater, letting them run around right beside the recording console in full hearing of the mics. After Carrie's first few songs were punctuated by loud crying and babbling, the errant children were spirited away to the lobby, where they were STILL audible for a while... Carrie did her best to ignore the distraction, but I'm sure it affected the performance -- as if she didn't have enough of a burden, trying to please the audience and turn in a quality performance for her own satisfaction... Thankfully, Carrie is a true professional, and she got right back on track with nary a raised eyebrow. Calling friends Dan and Beth Lodge-Rigal up for piano and vocal accompaniment, respectively, she knocked the crowd over with arrangements of "Moon Over Tucson", "When One Door Closes" and "Downtown". Guitar God(tm) Keith Skooglund lent his chops to a couple of tunes as well, tastefully backing with a second acoustic guitar instead of his trademark Stratocaster. Other than the added accompaniment, the set list for Sunday was very similar to Friday's show. Carrie did move "Yes of Yes" up to the middle fo the second set, dropped a couple of her older tunes, and built arrangements on the fly with her guests a couple of times. All good fun, and it led to a couple more excellent performances which rivalled Friday's show. The audience was quite receptive, responding enthusiastically to the added "punch" of the accompanied songs and silently drawing out extended solo performances of a few more. It's hard to convey the essential humor that sneaks its way into every one of Carrie's performances; largely visual, often silly, she always gives the impression that she's willing to laugh at herself. Most of her song intros contain that hint of self-parody or gentle fun-poking, and her lighter tunes are steeped in witty humor, usually at her own expense. Frequently a fluffed intro to a song will evoke a comic raspberry or her musical laugh; never a frown or a harsh word. One of my favorite moments occurred during a full band concert a couple of years ago where someone started on the wrong beat, bringing the song to a crashing halt after only a few bars. In the following silence, Carrie leaned over to the mic and deadpanned, "Train wreck!". I don't mean to give the impression that her performances are erratic -- far from it. But the occasional goof (ALL concerts have 'em, folks) is invariably followed by a laugh and then a flawless performance, rather than a curse or a stalking off stage (which I've seen a few bands do...) This ability to evoke laughter instead of annoyance or scorn epitomizes Carrie's "just-folks" attitude and her real empathy with the audience. After the Christmas carols, Carrie's encore was yet another traditional carol with accompaniment, which ended the performance. Not as many songs as Friday, yet the performance lasted about as long. After retrieving a set list near-identical to Friday's, I wandered down into the lobby, where I had the opportunity to wish season's greetings to Robert and Emmie (Carrie's daughter). Robert, acknowledging that I had been to both shows, asked my opinion of the evening's performance. We agreed that Friday's was a bit tighter and more successful, but that if good mixes could be obtained of the accompanied songs from Sunday's show, a couple of them would be worthy additions to the CD. We'll have to wait and see... Altogether, the Solstice Concerts succeeded in lifting my spirits as always. Carrie's voice was in terrific form, her guitar work powerful and emotional, and her personality unmatched. She shared with the crowd an observation that someone made during the break, to wit: "Carrie, taking you on is like messing with the Easter Bunny carrying an Uzi." A fair, if whimsical, allegory to her soft-as-silk music which can rear up and knock you flat when she chooses. I can't wait for the CD so I can re-live the high points of these two fine shows. - -- | Greg Dunn | "There was never a moment you | | gregdunn@indy.net | ever got within a hundred | | GregDunn@aol.com | million miles of my soul." | | http://www.indy.net/~gregdunn/ | Patty Griffin | ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 22:13:21 -0500 (EST) From: Joe Casadonte Subject: HTR on MTV? (was Re: Per request- HTR on AOL (Long)) I don't know if anyone read the whole thing or not, but this sounds way interesting: > Subject: Okay, who's the biggest Happy Rhodes fan here...? > Date: Wed, Dec 16, 1998 3:39 PM > From: STRAWBgirl > Message-id: <19981216153939.24202.00000248@ng-fi1.aol.com> > > hello all, > > with all this recent talk about Happy, i decided to see if i could get > in touch with Samson Music (i DO work for MTV after all) to get more > info/music from Ms. Rhodes... > > Someone from Samson called me at work, and will be shipping me a CD with > a press kit... but in the meantime, they've shipped me three > promotional posters for her new album -- i'm willing to give one away to > one of you fine folks... :) > [someone at my office wanted one, just 'cause she said it was nice] > > any interest? i've only got one to give out, so i hope it's the biggest > fan... thanks! :) > > > Subject: Re: Okay, who's the biggest Happy Rhodes fan here...? > Date: Wed, Dec 16, 1998 3:56 PM > From: STRAWBgirl > Message-id: <19981216155610.24195.00000240@ng-fi1.aol.com> > > hi guys... > > i am pleased to say someone has snagged the poster... > > no more takers, please. thanks. Regards, joe joc@netaxs.com - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Llama Fresh Farms => http://www.netaxs.com/~joc Gay Media Resource List => http://www.netaxs.com/~joc/gaymedia.html Perl for Win32 => http://www.netaxs.com/~joc/perlwin32.html PerlRing Homepage => http://www.netaxs.com/~joc/perlring.html - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Live Free, that's the message! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 22:39:07 -0500 From: Heather Russell Subject: [Fwd: SIBERRY Pipeline#9 * 'Child' CBC broadcast] This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - --------------8A59EC5A11467048912A8D74 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit - -- |*********************************************************| | Heather Russell | | My music site: http://www.freecloud.com/heather | | The Mending Wall: http://www.unc.edu/~gumption/tmw.html | | Email: hrussellatbellsouthdotnet | |_________________________________________________________| "I'm in favor of love as long as it doesn't happen when 'The Simpsons' is on television." --- Anita, age 6 - --------------8A59EC5A11467048912A8D74 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Received: from mail4.bellsouth.net (mail4.bellsouth.net [205.152.0.4]) by mail.rdu.bellsouth.net (8.8.8-spamdog/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA10179 for ; Mon, 21 Dec 1998 22:28:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp.interlog.com (root@smtp.interlog.com [207.34.202.37]) by mail4.bellsouth.net (8.8.8-spamdog/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA19654; Mon, 21 Dec 1998 22:28:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from [207.34.220.80] (ip220-80.cc.interlog.com [207.34.220.80]) by smtp.interlog.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA14939; Mon, 21 Dec 1998 19:27:34 -0500 (EST) X-Sender: sheeba@pop.interlog.com (Unverified) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 19:25:10 -0500 To: sib@sheeba.ca From: S H E E B A Subject: SIBERRY Pipeline#9 * 'Child' CBC broadcast DATE: Monday December 21,1998
NOTE #1: hunker down basement twiddle (a poem by JS) LIVE Canadian Radio Broadcast from 'Child' TOUR 1997! (Vancouver performance) December 26, 1998 10:30 pm across Canada will be aired on CBC-FM-RADIO 2 ('RADIOSONIC' - 'Coast-To-Coast') http:www.radiosonic.com This show includes the many marvellous musicians that actually played on the 'Child' CD and also the illustrious Marlon Saunders. I believe there are some unrecorded songs, too. Lo, how a rose is blooming >From Mary's heart is sprung ... NOTE #2: The SHEEBA office will be closed until Monday January 11, 1999. All queries, orders will be examined then for sturdiness and reliability. hmmm... Happy holydays, everyone. Be sure to rest. Jane Siberry O O it was a snowy night And the stars were shining bright Hanging heavy in the absence of light You were there and I And something in our hearts told us to Keep Moving So the caravan Through the darkened land That strange, clarion night. O
http://www.sheeba.ca - --------------8A59EC5A11467048912A8D74-- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 22:56:42 -0500 From: desmond in a tutu Subject: musical jails from the whiteboard news . clockwork orange anyone? ;) >Fort Lupton, Colorado: > >For violating the local noise ordinance, some teens are >being ordered to listen to an hour of either Gene >Autry, Hank Williams Jr. or Ludwig van Beethoven. > >Municipal Judge Paul Sacco says he thinks that penalty >is a better deterrent to playing loud tunes than the >$95 fine the law stipulates. > >"It isn't that we don't like their music, it's that >nobody should impose their musical preferences on >anyone else," Sacco said. > >The ordinance forbids noise that can be heard 25 feet >from a vehicle. Under the music plan, violators still >must pay the $35 court fee but are excused from the $60 >ticket. > >The program made its debut Dec. 5 when eight violators >sat in city council chambers for an hour of music. They >weren't allowed to leave the room, plug their ears or >complain - that would make them subject to contempt >charges. > >Sacco said the play list will vary through time >depending on what teens hate the most: "Maybe we'll put >those kids in a room with Barry Manilow for an hour." ------------------------------ End of ecto-digest V4 #446 **************************