From: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org (ecto-digest) To: ecto-digest@smoe.org Subject: ecto-digest V4 #409 Reply-To: ecto@smoe.org Sender: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Saturday, November 21 1998 Volume 04 : Number 409 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Sinead, guest star of the Universe!! [stunning@tezcat.com] Re: Guest Vocals [Suzanne Cerquone ] Liz Phair [alex.teitz@state.co.us] Susan McKeown! [Jeff Burka ] Re: Susan McKeown! (and Portishead) [Jeff Wasilko ] Re: Liz Phair [Paul Kim ] HR Tour [ken@isis.ST.3Com.COM (Ken Descoteaux)] Re: Susan McKeown! [Paul Blair ] Emily Bezar and Emma Townshend ["Craig Gidney" ] shotgun wedding [Jeff Burka ] Re: Liz Phair [Carolyn Andre ] Re: Susan McKeown! [Carolyn Andre ] Re: Guest Vocals [J Wermont ] Re: Emily Bezar and Emma Townshend [Chris Sampson ] Re: Emily Bezar and Emma Townshend [Neile Graham ] Duets [mbittner@juno.com (Matthew E Bittner)] Re: Duets ["Joseph S. Zitt" ] Re: Duets [Philip David Morgan ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 02:41:54 -0500 From: stunning@tezcat.com Subject: Sinead, guest star of the Universe!! Friends of mine and I have filled 2 whole cassettes with Sinead's rare tracks. Some highlights include: Ship Ahoy (with MARXMAN, 1993) Jump In The River (feat Karen Finley) (I Want Your) Hands On Me (feat MC Lyte) You Make Me Feel So Free (Van Morrison Tribute CD, the BEST song on this "not really very good" CD) Summer's End (with Ashtar Command from The Avengers Soundtrack) Be Still (Peace Together CD, benefit for peace in Northern Ireland. Sinead sings with Nanci Griffith, Feargal Sharkey, and Jah Wobble. There is an alternate version of this song on the CD produced by Robin Guthrie of the Cocteau Twins and he pulled out the lead vocals, put in Elizabeth Frazier on lead and left Sinead on the chorus' and backing vocals. ATTENTION ECTO SHOPPERS! Blue Light Special!! Sinead and Elizabeth on the same song! Life is SO good!) Religious Persuasion (with Billy Bragg and Andy White. 1993) The Foggy Dew (with The Chieftains) Come Talk To Me & Blood Of Eden (With Peter Gabriel) I'm looking forward to the new Sinead album produced by Dave Stewart of the Eurythmics. Also interested in finding out about her World Party recordings, her recordings with Jah Wobble, and the fabled In Tua Nua recordings. Can anyone help me on these? Thanks. Thomas Thomas Dunning Brown Star Records Chicago I WANNA BE KATE: The Songs of Kate Bush http://www.tezcat.com/~stunning/kate/index.html VISIT THE WEBSITE! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 07:29:26 -0600 From: Suzanne Cerquone Subject: Re: Guest Vocals Joyce wrote: >>Also, was "Don't Give Up" on Us (Peter Gabriel w/ Kate Bush guesting) already mentioned?<< "Don't Give Up" was on Peter Gabriel's "So." Perhaps you were thinking of Sinead O'Connor and Gabriel's "Blood of Eden" on "Us"? Speaking of Sinead, here's a new one for the compilation that I heard on WXPN yesterday in the car, and almost had to pull over and cry, it was so beautiful: "The Dreaming of the Bones" with Davy Spillane, on his new album "Sea of Dreams." The rest of the album seems to be instrumental Irish music (I'm not that familiar with Spillane.) ~Suzanne <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> The Web North America web site: http://alabanza.com/lothian/ e-mail inquiries: webna@aol.com <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 07:18:09 -0700 From: alex.teitz@state.co.us Subject: Liz Phair Just a quick note trying to verify a blurb I saw in the paper today. Has Liz Phair cancelled her tour, effective immediately? If so, does anyone know why? Trying to verify before I try to get a refund. Thanks, Alex ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 13:10:01 -0500 (EST) From: Jeff Burka Subject: Susan McKeown! I have never been so disappointed in ecto. It simply astounds me that I could walk into a record store looking for the recently-mentioned Davey Spillane disc (which I didn't find), and come across a brand new Susan McKeown and Lindsay Horner disc which, as far as I know, has never been mentioned on ecto! How is this possible, with all you folks following Susan around like so many deadheads in a vw microbus?! Shocked. Nay, outraged! jeff (who just had to get this off his chest... ;-) np: _Mighty Rain_, Susan McKeown and Lindsay Horner ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 13:25:11 -0500 From: Jeff Wasilko Subject: Re: Susan McKeown! (and Portishead) On Fri, Nov 20, 1998 at 01:10:01PM -0500, Jeff Burka wrote: > > I have never been so disappointed in ecto. > > It simply astounds me that I could walk into a record store looking for > the recently-mentioned Davey Spillane disc (which I didn't find), and come > across a brand new Susan McKeown and Lindsay Horner disc which, as far as > I know, has never been mentioned on ecto! > > How is this possible, with all you folks following Susan around like so > many deadheads in a vw microbus?! Yeah, we do seem to be a bit lame lately (-: I still haven't picked up Susan's new one (it keeps slipping my mind). Also, I just got Portishead's new live CD and video and I'm totally blown away by how well they pull off their complicated studio sound live. If you've got either of their studio CDs, head to the record store and pick up the live stuff. Also, the video has some tracks that the live CD doesn't... Jeff ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 13:38:02 -0500 From: Paul Kim Subject: Re: Liz Phair At 07:18 AM 11/20/98 -0700, alex.teitz@state.co.us wrote: > > Just a quick note trying to verify a blurb I saw in the paper today. >Has Liz Phair cancelled her tour, effective immediately? If so, does anyone >know why? Trying to verify before I try to get a refund. According to the Matador Records site, Yep, all of Liz's dates through December have been cancelled...They are hoping to reschedule the dates for early 1999...*whew*..I'm glad i didn't try to get tickets to the WBCN x-mas concert thingy she was doing here in Boston. paul kim ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Nov 98 13:56:51 EST From: ken@isis.ST.3Com.COM (Ken Descoteaux) Subject: HR Tour Dear Ecto, Woe is me. I'm really starting to regret not having driven hours and hours on Columbus Day, the last day of my vacation in Maine. So that not only would I have gotten home to Massachusetts that day, but I'd have actually thrown in a side excursion to the Troy Music Hall too. I considered it and decided that the drive would be a bit much, I'd be too exhausted to appreciate it, and there was always the next date. Samson's web page now says: "Stay tuned for more dates coming early next year" Early next year! *sigh* - -Ken ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 14:03:19 -0500 From: Paul Blair Subject: Re: Susan McKeown! Jeff wrote: >How is this possible, with all you folks following Susan around like so >many deadheads in a vw microbus?! Hey, when she leaves the northeast, we all just go back into our holes. Anyway, I seem to remember Carolyn or Sam posting about "a" new disc from Susan and Lindsay that was about to be released. And since as far as I know there hasn't been a record release party, or any other local event about it, or even much live Chanting House lately we've mostly remained ignorant. Woe is us :-( >Shocked. Nay, outraged! I just miss Susan. - --Paul ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 14:02:14 -0500 From: "Craig Gidney" Subject: Emily Bezar and Emma Townshend - --0__=9oOThyAfLC8yMSjx5tO4QNeC7UgehZMJbUVF7CkAOwAHIIdF7YALf3EP Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline - ---------------------- Forwarded by Craig Gidney on 11/20/98 01:54 PM - --------------------------- Craig Gidney 11/20/98 01:57 PM Emily Bezar, - --0__=9oOThyAfLC8yMSjx5tO4QNeC7UgehZMJbUVF7CkAOwAHIIdF7YALf3EP Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable ?The Moon in Grenadine? Emma Townshend, ?Winterland? When I was 15, I went on a school trip to NYC, and we stayed in th= e apartment of a friend of the teachers? (mind you, this was an *alternat= ive* junior high school). He had an extensive record collection, among whic= h were ?Hejira? by Joni Mitchell, and the then new Rickie Lee Jones lp, ?Pirates.? He played them for me--I?d been intrigued by the lyrics pri= nted on the gatefold sleeve of Mitchells? album and italicized on the back t= he Jones lp. ?Hejira? was a stark collection of confessional roadsongs, painted in the wintry tones of an upright bass and a skeletal, sketchy guitar lines. ?Pirates? was cinematically orchestrated, with jazz and showtune flourishes, filled with stunning cityscapes and short-story characters (mostly losers and drifters) with Jones? burnished voice describing the tableaux. Mitchell?s album was literary, absorbed, each= word as considered as the cut a jeweller makes to perfect his creation.= Jones? work was phantasmorgic, hallicinagenic, with the line between reality and literary (poetic) artifice intentionally blurred. Both alb= ums are cornerstones of my tastes and sensibilities. Both the Bezar and Townshend cds remind me of these two importance= masterpieces. Bezar is a classically-trained musician--both as a vocalist and a pianist. This shows in her vocal work particularly; in her singing the= re are long, sustained notes that recall the tones of opera singers Jessye= Norman and Dawn Upshaw. Most people, however, will put her in the Kate= Bush/Tori Amos category (the delicate piano ballads, and she *does* sou= nd awfully like them). However, Bush and Amos, for all of their fantastic= al storytelling chops and love of the twee and mystical, are pop artists. Bezar is not. The opening track, ?40 Mansions,? rocks as much any Tori-with-a-full-band song. But there are dramatic dissonances in her singing that go against the grain of folk-based compositions, and her diction/phrasing on other verses is distinctly operatic. The track als= o highlights her jazz-influenced piano playing and love of obscure imager= y: she describes the female half of a battling couple: ?40 lovers had she/= in a year/ Daughter of Medici...?; elsewhere, she says mournfully of the mal= e half: ?I made a bomb of your/Golden contraband/ I made a bomb/ for it looked like a battlefield to me...?. But it?s not until the second son= g, ?Mosquito in the Shade?, that it becomes clear that this album is *fusi= on*, not rock. This song is a light longuey samba, and it feels like a gem unearthed from the 1920s. It?s something I could imagine Daisy and Ja= y dancing to, while the society ladies of the Noveau Riche make oh-so-dro= ll comments. The lyrics, however, are written from the viewpoint of one w= ho?s jaded by romance. The specter of Zelda Fitzgerald makes a comeback in ?Dream Gasoline.? Against a big band backdrop, Bezar observes a rich woman?s descent into madness and ennui: ?A tavern in England/ A beach = in Antibes.../The queen down the Nile/ With her Cairo of theives...Sometim= es she mistakes these things for her home...Sane into Sadness/Goes Bland i= nto Madness...? ?Chevalier Lune? is as evanscent and classic as a Gershwin= tune, her delicate piano describing her ambivalence about romance, personified by the moon: ?O moon, Chevalier Lune/ Seduced and perfumed.../I only wanted to kill your circumference...?. In ?Opiate Cheer?, she?s as dewy-eyed as a Harry Connick song, contrasting images = of chaos and decay with the obsessive gaze of the lover. Each of Bezar?s songs have something to distinguish them, whether it?s the wonderful piano-playing, the brassy blare of horns, or her gorgeous, always start= ling voice. It?s highly reminiscient of Mitchell?s ?Hejira? in its use of j= azz references. Emma Townshend is Pete Townshend?s daughter, and the cover of her album shows her pouting at the camera against a purple background, her = lips rouged, her blue eyes wide and capturing the reflected corona Not bei= ng a particular afficiando of the Who, and distrusting ad campaigns that tru= mpet nepotism, I steered clear of this one for a while. But something attra= cted to it. The song titles were intriguing: ?My Angel of Vertigo,? ?Ghost= Kitchen?. When I found it used I snatched it up, bearing in mind that = one of the best purchases I?d recently made was the Rufus Wainwright. (Tha= t fact that he?s cute and gay might?ve caused me to waive my earlier poli= cy). But Townshend?s debut eclipses Wainwright?s. People will be comparing = her to Tori and Kate again, but she?s smarter and bitchier than either of t= hem. Like Kate Bush, her voice is delicate and twee, quite in the realm of t= he English Thrush. And indeed, the first song off the album, ?Better Than= Music,? starts off with tentative ivory-tinkles, soaring, Faeries-in-the-Garden twittering, and the text of a poem by Emily Dickinson(!) It?s pretty, and dangerously precious. But the next song--?The Last Time I Saw Sadie?--positively spits in the face of the Delicate Woman Child image. Against a whining guitar, and late ?80s quasi-goth synth strings, Townshend describes the persona of a woman wallowing in misanthropy. This bitchy loser obsesses over a starlet, w= ho?s ?told much in the Sun.? ?I?m collecting bits of paper/for my psycho-bedroom/ something came, and made me a little Hinckley/I paper i= t with her, my Goddess...? her voice dripping with acid sarcasm. No, thi= s isn?t a twee little girl. This isn?t even someone you want to know. T= he next song, ?Walk at Night? has our herione walking in dark, but this is= no June girl fantasy. It?s the delicious, nasty walk home after a night o= f cheap, fun sex; about feeling kinship to Genet?s criminals and the free= dom of one?s darkside. Nothing ethereal here, except the music itself. Bu= t Townshend reveals her true brillance with the next song, ?Ghost Kitchen= ?. With its eerie, sampled ambience juxtasposed against her by-now distinc= tive glistening piano trills, this song is somewhere between Kate Bush and L= amb. The lyrics compare the creation of heroin with the creation of art. ?W= e?re making poison--it?s just a risk that we all take...I said, ?You junkies= , you are children.? Not even with their science can they understand my art...?? It?s one the creepiest, and best executed songs I?ve heard. = The rest of the album is good--displaying not only her caustic knowing imag= es but also her profiency on guitar, violin and accodian. This album reminds of Rickie Lee Jones? ?Pirates? in its mixture of toughness and lyricism. = - --0__=9oOThyAfLC8yMSjx5tO4QNeC7UgehZMJbUVF7CkAOwAHIIdF7YALf3EP-- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 14:01:27 -0500 (EST) From: Jeff Burka Subject: shotgun wedding I've had a chance to go through Shotgun Wedding's debut release, _A Big World of Fun_ a few times now and feel like it's time to comment on it. Lynn Canfield's various projects are quintessentially ecto. I actually heard her work with Area for the first time just a few minutes before I first heard Happy, and due to the strange way that Vickie wrote song titles on the tape I had, for a while I had trouble figuring out which was the last of a few Area songs, and which was the first Happy track. Obviously, this confusion cleared itself up. After Area broke up, ectophiles were ecstatic to find that Lynn had re-teamed with Area member Henry Frayne to create the Moon Seven Times, which at first seemed sort of like Area with a traditional bass 'n drums rock and roll rhythm section instead of a cheesy drum machine. But through their 3 albums, M7x distinguished themselves from Area, an evolution which culminated with their release _Sunburnt_ -- smokier, jazzier, and wonderfully new and different, while maintaining the qualities that made Area so great -- Henry's atmospheric guitar noodlings and Lynn's dreamy, ethereal vocals and lyrics. At some point, Lynn started working with fellow M7x member and co-songwriter, Brendan Gamble on a side project, which eventually turned into Shotgun Wedding, featuing yet another M7x member, Todd Fletcher. Okay. That's the history. What's the now? _A Big World of Fun_ has perhaps a bit more of a pop sensibility to it, but it's not any pop I'd expect to hear on the radio. It's jazzy, playful and low-key, swirling with vintage hammond and wurlitzer organs, concertina and melodica. Lynn's vocals are as beautiful as always, and her lyrics morbid and bizarre (witness the first track, "Shotgun," about some highschool kids who cut class and then died in an auto accident -- "Give me something to remember you by, a bit of hair or dreamy eye." Kind of just makes you go "ewwww!" But then, is it any surprise coming from the pen that also wrote, "In a field of high corn / crows are waiting for roadkill / I know a man / who says that's just a reflection / of our own predatory selves"). Other subjects range from the plight of a cat not allowed to venture outdoors to love, death, monday mornings, and vacations... Despite Lynn's dreamy vocals, this isn't really an ethereal album the way, say Area's work was. But it's an awful lot of fun to listen to. I'm not sure if Shotgun Wedding has any kind of distribution deal, but you can get more info on the album, as well as soundbites and ordering info from their web page at www.prairienet.org/shotgunwedding. jeff np: _Mighty Rain_, Susan McKeown and Lindsay Horner ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 13:27:02 -0600 (CST) From: Carolyn Andre Subject: Re: Liz Phair At 07:18 AM 11/20/98 -0700, alex.teitz@state.co.us wrote: > > Just a quick note trying to verify a blurb I saw in the paper today. >Has Liz Phair cancelled her tour, effective immediately? If so, does anyone >know why? Trying to verify before I try to get a refund. I did catch her in Chicago last month - last show of 3, the first two of which were reportedly sold out - and my 2 impressions were: it was a short show, and the "opening act" was something like 45 minutes of recorded music played while various b&w & color slides of Liz, band & life were flashed on the curtain ... twice. By the end of which the audience wasn't booing, but they were definitely stamping feet & clamoring for the 'real act' to start. obviously the taste left by the er, um, "unique" opening act carried over to my reaction to the show. It did make me wonder whether she was grappling with those 'live show' ghosts again. Regards, | Support Independent Music! Use the Internet Carolyn | Carolyn's House of Music: webmaster@house-of-music.com | http://house-of-music.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 13:48:07 -0600 (CST) From: Carolyn Andre Subject: Re: Susan McKeown! On Fri, 20 Nov 1998, Jeff Burka wrote: > I have never been so disappointed in ecto. > > It simply astounds me that I could walk into a record store looking for > the recently-mentioned Davey Spillane disc (which I didn't find), and come > across a brand new Susan McKeown and Lindsay Horner disc which, as far as > I know, has never been mentioned on ecto! > > How is this possible, with all you folks following Susan around like so > many deadheads in a vw microbus?! > > Shocked. Nay, outraged! > considering that my copy has already made it to my 1998 top 10, I grovel as well. It arrived last weekend. *my* excuse is that the press material didn't include a release date and I'd not yet heard back from Brendan ... so info isn't up on the website yet, even tho the liner promises that the lyrics are there ok, "Mighty Rain" - basically Susan & Lindsey on myriad instruments. If you liked the trad. side of "Bushes and Briars" but also the feel of "Through the Bitter Frost & Snow", you'll not take this one out of your CD player in awhile! Plus, to me it was a great treat to hear Susan perform Dylan & the blues. Regards, | Support Independent Music! Use the Internet Carolyn | Carolyn's House of Music: webmaster@house-of-music.com | http://house-of-music.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 12:17:08 -0800 (PST) From: J Wermont Subject: Re: Guest Vocals > Joyce wrote: > > >>Also, was "Don't Give Up" on Us (Peter Gabriel w/ Kate Bush guesting) > already mentioned?<< > > "Don't Give Up" was on Peter Gabriel's "So." Perhaps you were thinking of > Sinead O'Connor and Gabriel's "Blood of Eden" on "Us"? Oops, no, I was thinking of "Don't Give Up" - just mixed up the album titles. I meant to refer to "So." Joyce ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 15:29:18 -0500 From: Chris Sampson Subject: Re: Emily Bezar and Emma Townshend Craig Gidney wrote (and since it's about EB, can I resist answering? All together now... "NOT BLOODY LIKELY") First things first... I don't know Emma Townshend at all. EB, on the other hand... Well... (Oh, I also don't know Dawn Upshaw...) EB compares herself more to Joni Mitchell than to the others (but will make the Tori/Kate comparisons for other people's benefit). One person at WHUS mentioned without prompting that she reminded him of Joni Mitchell. She thinks of herself as belonging to the artsong tradition (just modern, is all)... and she's obviously experimenting with genres... The first CD was obviously electronic, MiG is more poppy but still transgenre... Not even fusion... different genres from song to song and some that aren't in a given genre... It's more song-oriented that GTL (where GTL was VERY much about the sonic experience). EB's piano-playing is only recently (to MiG) jazz-influenced... her imagery IS obscure (she describes it as cryptic, even). Craig, were these reviews published in print? They sound like they might hail from some music magazine...not that that's a bad thing, mind you ;) Chris Sampson ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 12:52:15 -0800 From: Neile Graham Subject: Re: Emily Bezar and Emma Townshend Chris Sampson wrote: >Craig, were these reviews published in print? They sound like they >might hail from some music magazine...not that that's a bad thing, mind >you ;) They very well could be. Craig is an excellent writer. I've been lucky enough to read some of his fiction (anyone remember that six-week fiction writer's workshop I went to 2 summers ago where I met a friend of Jeff Burka's? Well, Craig is that person.) Anyway, I expect to be reading work of his in print very soon. I also like his assessment of both artists. I love Emily Bezar's discs (but I have to be in a certain mood for her) and Emma Townshend is one of my favourite discoveries of the year, thanks to ecto. - --Neile - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Neile Graham ..... http://www.sff.net/people/neile ..... neile@sff.net The Ectophiles' Guide to Good Music .... http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 15:43:29 -0600 From: mbittner@juno.com (Matthew E Bittner) Subject: Duets One duet I haven't seen covered yet is (I'm guessing on the title): "Birds" - Peter Gabriel and Laurie Anderson. Matt Bittner ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 16:06:52 -0600 (CST) From: "Joseph S. Zitt" Subject: Re: Duets On Fri, 20 Nov 1998, Matthew E Bittner wrote: > One duet I haven't seen covered yet is (I'm guessing on the title): > > "Birds" - Peter Gabriel and Laurie Anderson. Yup! I believe it was "Excellent Birds" on Laurie Anderson's "Mr Heartbreak" and "This is the Picture" on PG's "So". ...and I'd love to get my paws on video of the Nam Jun Paik PBS special, "Good Morning, Mr Orwell", aired on 1/1/1984, for which they wrote the song and made the original video clip for it. - - ---------1---------1---------1---------1---------1---------1---------- |||/ Joseph Zitt ===== jzitt@humansystems.com ===== Human Systems \||| ||/ Maryland? = <*> SILENCE: The John Cage Mailing List <*> = ecto \|| |/ http://www.realtime.net/~jzitt ====== Comma: Voices of New Music \| ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 20:25:35 -0500 From: Philip David Morgan Subject: Re: Duets Good Evening, Matthew: > > One duet I haven't seen covered yet is (I'm guessing on the title): > > > > "Birds" - Peter Gabriel and Laurie Anderson. And Joseph: > Yup! I believe it was "Excellent Birds" on Laurie Anderson's "Mr > Heartbreak" and "This is the Picture" on PG's "So". > > ...and I'd love to get my paws on video of the Nam Jun Paik PBS special, > "Good Morning, Mr Orwell", aired on 1/1/1984, for which they wrote the > song and made the original video clip for it. She also did it solo in her concert film _Home of the Brave_, apparently not availible on home video for now (I wish I had snared it when Warners had it in the shops). Philip David (...and we've already paid for this) 11/20/1998 - -- http://members.xoom.com/Daevidarts/ [The Diane Wolkstein Pages] - -- BUY NOTHING DAY - Friday 27 September, 1998 Participate by NOT participating! - -- "Hey! Who tore all my wallpaper samples? Who ate all the grapes? The ones I've been saving?" - - Laurie Anderson ("Difficult Listening Hour"). ------------------------------ End of ecto-digest V4 #409 **************************