From: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org (ecto-digest) To: ecto-digest@smoe.org Subject: ecto-digest V4 #370 Reply-To: ecto@smoe.org Sender: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Saturday, October 17 1998 Volume 04 : Number 370 Today's Subjects: ----------------- saddest song i know... [00jnweiser@bsuvc.bsu.edu] Re: Saddest Song You Know [J Wermont ] Today's your birthday, friend... [Mike Matthews ] Re: Saddest Song [samsamiam@juno.com (Sami T.)] Re: Saddest Song You Know ["Holly J Tominack" ] Re: Saddest Song You Know [FAMarcus@aol.com] Re: Saddest Song ["Tim" ] Re: saddest song i know... [JavaHo@aol.com] Re: saddest song (jonatha) ["Tim" ] RE: Saddest Song You Know [Tim.Cook@Swift.Com (Tim Cook)] tori amos video compilation [pauly on the shore ] Re: Saddest Song You Know ["Owen L. Magee" ] Saddest songs... [Sharon Nichols ] Re: Saddest Song You Know [Michael Colford ] Re: the note from samson [HORTER!!!! ] Re: what poster signing??? ["C. K. Coney" ] Saddest Song [alex.teitz@state.co.us] Re: Ectoparty in Dortmund, Germany ["Klaus Kluge" ] Re: Saddest Song You Know ["C. K. Coney" ] Re: "Uncut" free 4AD cd [Neile Graham ] Re: saddest song you know [julesette ] Susan McKeown [Hillary Jackson ] Re: Susan McKeown ["jeffrey c. burka" ] Re: Saddest Song You Know [Karron Lynn Lane ] Request: Song ID [Richard Holmes ] Re: Saddest Song You Know [kerrywhite@webtv.net (kerry white)] RE: Saddest Song ["Foghorn J Fornorn" ] re:saddest song ["Charlie Sweeney" ] Re: Saddest Song You Know [Spbarker@aol.com] Re: Saddest Song You Know [Hiptones@aol.com] Re: Saddest Song You Know [FAMarcus@aol.com] Re: saddest song stuff/ecto-digest V4 #368 [lanblind@teleport.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 01:02:54 -0500 (EST) From: 00jnweiser@bsuvc.bsu.edu Subject: saddest song i know... well, i like depressing music, so i know a lot:) silence, the trouble with me, that's me -- tara maclean lost, i will not forget you, adia -- sarah mclachlan playboy mommy, never seen blue -- tori amos end of the summer, it's a war in there (!) -- dar williams [shamelessplug for my album] all i could do -- jessica weiser [end shamelessplug:)] you and i -- jeff buckley fetching decay, death is a new day -- emm gryner bea's song --cowboy junkies february -- dar williams landmine, because i told you so, shame on us -- jonatha brooke :) jessica n. weiser http://adam.nettfriends.com/Jess "have you been the broken one?" - tara maclean, "passenger" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 23:29:14 -0700 (PDT) From: J Wermont Subject: Re: Saddest Song You Know > Another song that brings me tears is Enya's "Exile", from Watermark. Yes - if there are tears to be cried, that one will always bring them out. That song always makes me think of funerals and mourning. I don't even know what it's about, but the melody and the wind instruments sound so desolate and mournful that it doesn't matter. Usually I find classical music more emotionally evocative in this way - pop and rock make me feel joyful, but it's classical that brings me to tears most often. Several works by Debussy, Beethoven, and Respighi have very poignant passages. The other day I was in a grocery store and they were playing the end of "La Mer" over the PA system, and I'm wiping my eyes as I roll my cart down the aisles... Also, my partner, a classical guitarist, plays an exquisite piece by Villa-Lobos (can't remember the name of it offhand) that always brings my emotions to the surface. Joyce ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 03:00:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Mike Matthews Subject: Today's your birthday, friend... i*i*i*i*i*i i*i*i*i*i*i *************** *****HAPPY********* **************BIRTHDAY********* *************************************************** *************************************************************************** ****************** Erik N. Johnson (erik@falcon.kla.com) ****************** *************************************************************************** -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Erik N. Johnson Tue October 16 1962 Handle with Care Kim Klouda Tue October 17 1967 Libra Anthony Amato Sat October 20 1973 Libra Dave Steiner Sat October 24 1959 Scorpio Tara MacLean Thu October 25 1973 Scorpio Jessica Koeppel Wed October 29 1969 Scorpio Kathy Clark Sat November 01 1969 Bunnies Katie Dougiamas Sat November 02 1974 Scorpio Anthony Horan Fri November 04 1966 Positive Michael Sullivan Mon November 05 1962 Scorpio Jens Brage Sun November 08 1964 Scorpio Rising Lynn Garrett Sat November 08 1958 Scorpio Sam Murgie Fri November 08 1957 Scorpio Rachel Kramer Bussel Mon November 10 1975 Scorpio Ken Latta Sun November 11 1951 Scorpio Michael Doyle Wed November 12 1969 Scorpio Neil K. Thu November 14 1968 Grocible Dave Cook Mon November 15 1971 Scorpio Jeff Pearce November 16 Orpheus - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 00:37:38 -0700 From: samsamiam@juno.com (Sami T.) Subject: Re: Saddest Song These aren't all the saddes songs I know, but they're the ones I thought of as I sat here considering for a moment .... they're not in any particular order except the order in which they came to me..... "And On" by Yaz (of course) "This Woman's Work" by Kate Bush "On the Willows" from the play "Godspell" "Jackie O" by Sinead O'Connor "Do You Believe in Shame" by Duran Duran "Strange Fruit" by Billie Holiday and/or Siouxsie & the Banshees "Blasphemous Rumors" by Depeche Mode "Holy Tears" by Tara MacLean These may not all be slow ballad types, but they are gut-yearning, heart-aching, visceral-wrenching songs of sadness, loss, injustice, and pain. Each of them makes the depths of my soul cry out every single time I hear them. ~Sami~ <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> "...reality is the leading cause of stress among those in touch with it. I can take it in small doses, but as a lifestyle I found it too confusing." --from "The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe" by Jane Wagner ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 04:17:25 -0400 From: "Holly J Tominack" Subject: Re: Saddest Song You Know The saddest? I'm horrible with superlatives but this stuff never fails to bite into me: "Can't Cry Hard Enough" by Victoria Williams. "I Will Not Forget You" by Sarah McLaughlin. (thanks to nkg for turning me on to this exquisite torture) "Marguerite" by Deadeye Dick "The Taxi Ride" by Jane Siberry. "Bad" by U2 not really "songs"... Pachelbel's Canon Albinoni's Adagio for Strings Puccini's Madama Butterfly (when I saw that last year performed by the Baltimore Opera Company, I was *sobbing* before the first act was over.) I'm very interested in this thread because (1) I have always been close to sadness and (2)....ready for this? My dearest friend and "partner in crime" has liver cancer that has metastasized to his stomach. He denied chemo at first and then accepted it when he was told it would help him last until February. Last night, he asked me and my friend Robin to write and deliver his eulogy. I've been brave so far; I've even told him that he had better the hell haunt me after he sheds his "skin bag." I'm making a tape for him as I write this. So far, the track list is as follows: Wow---Kate Bush (he's an actor and he and I are in a play together right now) Happy Phantom--Tori ("There is no death, motherfucker, and you better the hell haunt me!") Make it Go Away---Holly Cole Number 1---Happy Rhodes What a Good Boy---BareNakedLadies Thanksgiving---Poi Dog Pondering Rosy & Grey---Lowest of the Low Green Eggs & Ham---Moxy Fruvous (for tonal relief) 'Round Midnight---Ella Fitzgerald Onion Girl---Holly Cole (when we first started being friends, he told me he loved me because I was so "pure." Ha. Peel away the layers and I will make you cry.) Walking After You---Foo Fighters Song to the Siren---This Mortal Coil I'm sorry to lay all this on y'all. I'm working on my third scotch on the rocks and I'm not sleeping. Holly ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 04:26:30 EDT From: FAMarcus@aol.com Subject: Re: Saddest Song You Know sob,,,,,,sob,,,,,,the theme...sob sob...the theme......sob sob....to love...waaaaaaaa .......... story................. and really, any song by pat boone is pretty sad.......of course not the boo hoo sad. Just the what a lame excuse for a white man sad. and i thought i would clarify that earlier when i told fog........... I don't know how to tell you this but Jody, to the best of my knowledge, is gay. Maybe you could turn her around. I meant turn her around to the hetro lifestyle!!!!!!!! fred m ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 19:05:41 +0000 From: "Tim" Subject: Re: Saddest Song Sometimes the songs which affect me most are not so much the saddest, but the most frail, the most hopeful, the sweetest, songs by people who wish to be joyful but just can't be. Having said that: Marillion - Out Of This World Not only a desperately sad story, but some of the most heart-renderingly, devastatingly, beautifully sad music I've ever heard, with 3 climaxes in the one song. Steve Hogarth's magnificent voice doesn't hurt either. Bjork - Play Dead Depression takes a night on the town, finds a feather boa, a soaring string section and the voice of an angel. Radiohead - Street Spirit (Fade Out) This will play at my deathbed. Joni Mitchell - Amelia I'm under the impression that Joni was attempting to write a thesis on melancholy. Sparklehorse - Cow A song of inarticulate, powerful yearning and self-dismissal. Tori Amos - Mother Tears well in my eyes just *thinking* about it. Kate Bush - And Dream Of Sheep/Hello Earth Being the only person on earth. Depeche Mode - World Full Of Nothing How anyone could write this and continue living is beyond me. Jane Siberry - The Taxi Ride I'm assuming everyone simply forgot that such a heartbreaking song was sitting in their collections. Paradise Motel - Daniel Although I agree with Andrew about Ashes, this is my personal favourite. Somehow desperately sad, yet gloriously uplifting. Sarah McLachlan - Ice/Fear I'm not surprised that she's retreated from this sort of intensity. The Cure - A Night Like This/Plain Song/The Deep Green Sea/This Is A Lie How could I pick only one? Stina Nordenstam - Murder In Mairyland Park Presenting life as indistinct and death as crystal clear. Heather Nova - Heal I always want to believe this song, but its own fragility dissaudes me. The Chameleons - View From A Hill/P.S. Goodbye/Tears/Swamp Thing Like the last moments of a beautiful dream, when you feel the world tugging at you, and the pain of leaving is so unbearable you wake up crying. Bel Canto - Capio The bitter cold. The Loud Family - Where They Go Back To School But Get Depressed Somewhat self-explanatory. Ani DiFranco - You Had Time Sometimes grim acceptance is the most painful feeling of all. The Auteurs - After Murder Park A jauntiness which fools no-one. Happy Rhodes - Temporary & Eternal (The Keep version) Some songs rely on the execution. Simple Minds - Someone Somewhere In The Summertime I needed a dance song in here somewhere. P J Harvey - The River The most recent member to this list, and one of the most affecting... Puressence - All I Want Like all the songs on this list distilled into a perfect, majestic three minute pop song (with strings). All the more beautiful because I didn't expect it. Joy Division - Love Will Tear Us Apart Of course. I hope you enjoyed, Tim ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 07:00:10 EDT From: JavaHo@aol.com Subject: Re: saddest song i know... Jessica mentions: << landmine, because i told you so, shame on us -- jonatha brooke >> And speaking of Jonatha, how about "Inconsolable"? Lisa ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 22:10:52 +0000 From: "Tim" Subject: Re: saddest song (jonatha) - ---------- >From: JavaHo@aol.com >To: ecto@smoe.org >Subject: Re: saddest song i know... >Date: Fri, Oct 16, 1998, 11:00 AM > >Jessica mentions: > ><< landmine, because i told you so, shame on us -- jonatha brooke >> > >And speaking of Jonatha, how about "Inconsolable"? > >Lisa > Or Paris? Tim ------------------------------ Date: 16 Oct 1998 12:17:16 +0000 From: Tim.Cook@Swift.Com (Tim Cook) Subject: RE: Saddest Song You Know Cathedral Song - Tanita Tikaram ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 09:29:59 -0400 From: pauly on the shore Subject: tori amos video compilation from atlantic-records.com: >Tori Amos Video Compilation In Stores November 17th > >Oct 14, 1998 > >Tori Amos will release a long-form video compilation November 17th. The >compilation features songs from all three of Tori's platinum albums, LITTLE >EARTHQUAKES, UNDER THE PINK and BOYS FOR PELE as well as 'Spark,' 'Raspberry >Swirl' and 'Jackie's Strength' from this year's critically-acclaimed FROM >THE CHOIRGIRL HOTEL. The compilation promises to be a mesmerizing journey >through the work of this extraordinary artist. Following is the track list: > >Silent All These Years Cornflake Girl (European Version) Past The Mission >China Raspberry Swirl Hey Jupiter Spark Caught A Lite Sneeze Winter Talula >GOD Crucify Jackie's Strength >Cornflake Girl (US version) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 08:33:17 -0500 From: "Owen L. Magee" Subject: Re: Saddest Song You Know On Thu, Oct 15, 1998 at 04:23:04PM -0700, C. K. Coney wrote: > What is the saddest song you know? I second "The Walking (and Constantly)" by Siberry. See the video for an extra dose of sadness. I also second "You Had Time" by Ani Difranco (from _Out of Range_, I think). Here's some others: "Watching You Without Me" by Kate (from _Hounds of Love_). Surprised no one has mentioned this one, yet. There have been other stories like this, but something about how it happens at the end of the weird / supernatural / emotionally-wrenching "The Ninth Wave" sequence just gives it so much power. "I Know What Kind of Love This Is" by The Nields (from _Gotta Get Over Greta_). I find it odd that I "connect" with this song so much, since it doesn't really have anything to do with my life. But somehow I find myself slipping into the narrator's mind when listening to it and...how depressing. And the harmonies at the end that sound so much like crying...sigh... Owen ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 09:47:51 -0600 From: Sharon Nichols Subject: Saddest songs... Two songs make me burst into tears: "Cassiel's Song" by Nick Cave (B-side of "Do You Love Me?") "Only A Dream" by Mary-Chapin Carpenter BTW, Richard Musil is Director of Marketing at Samson; Michael Delich is President. Sharon Terra Incognita http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Studios/3450/terra.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 09:46:54 -0400 (EDT) From: Michael Colford Subject: Re: Saddest Song You Know On Fri, 16 Oct 1998, Owen L. Magee wrote: > "Watching You Without Me" by Kate (from _Hounds of Love_). Surprised no > one has mentioned this one, yet. There have been other stories like > this, but something about how it happens at the end of the weird / > supernatural / emotionally-wrenching "The Ninth Wave" sequence just gives > it so much power. Oh My! I can't believe I didn't think of this song. This is actually my all-time favorite Kate Bush song, and it is incredibly sad as well. Thank you Owen for reminding me about this gorgeous song that moves me so much. I guess what they say, "Out of sight, out of mind" rings a little true. Oh Kate, where are you? Michael n.p. Rufus Wainwright - -------------------------------------------------------------------- Michael Colford | Reading Public Library Head of Technical Services | Reading, Massachusetts colford@noblenet.org | *North of Boston Library Exchange* - -------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 09:51:30 -0400 From: HORTER!!!! Subject: Re: the note from samson At 11:32 PM 10/15/98 -0400, meredith wrote: >I've really got to get to sleep, I've got a ton to write about but not >tonight. I did just want to pop in with a clarification before you all >lynch-mob Samson over the note that went to the ectophiles about the Troy >signing that wasn't. I think "lynch-mob" is overstating the point a bit. In my original post, I simply wondered why they nicked (or cherry picked?) the ecto sub list. They could have just posted it to the list directly. Or taken geographically the names of people who signed up on their site. (btw, if you haven't signed up for it, check out http://www.samsonmusic.com/contact.htm) Not exactly sure why, but it bothered me that they took my name from the subscription roster. Sure, I signed up on Samson's page (which, as other people have indicated, was NOT where they got the names from, and I did check that before I posted) and it was Happy related, but it still bothered me for some reason. That's all I said, that it bothered me. Tom ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 10:50:24 -0700 From: "C. K. Coney" Subject: Re: what poster signing??? Foghorn J Fornorn wrote: > Sort of reminds me of a Peter Gabriel concert some years ago, they started a > song too fast and Peter stopped it, had a few words with the band then told > the audience: "We go professional *next* week". Ya know, you writing this reminded me of something Kriston and I were talking about...how much rehearsal time must have gone into Happy's show with the band *and* and a/v people. Can you imagine what would happen to the dual-screen projections if any songs had to be started over? As in the case of Peter Gabriel, even the most accomplished performing artists blow their timing. Kudos to Happy and band for keeping the set on track and the songs therein tight. All that hard work paid of in a remarkable show! Carol P.S. Thanks for all the good sad song recommendations. Happy's track, Jane's "Angels", Morphine, and others are in my collection...but not that Kermit song...darn! Anyway, I've had my cry (actually, the candlelight vigil did the trick)...but I wanted to thank ya'll anyway. Now I'm thinking of making a "grief tape" so I can just pull it out and play it when a death affects me. This will also come in handy when my animal friends depart (with two dogs and two cats it's inevitable.) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 08:56:17 -0600 From: alex.teitz@state.co.us Subject: Saddest Song Saddest song I know is the theme to Somewhere in Time the Christopher Reeve, Jane Seymour film. It's always the one that breaks me up. Alex ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 17:23:34 +0200 From: "Klaus Kluge" Subject: Re: Ectoparty in Dortmund, Germany Here's a little reminder about the Dortmund ectoparty, starting this sunday. There is a party webpage, which hopefully will be updated throughout the day, located at: http://www.smoe.org/klaus/ep98/ Keep on listening... ...Klaus & Claudia ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 11:45:46 -0700 From: "C. K. Coney" Subject: Re: Saddest Song You Know FAMarcus@aol.com wrote: > I > don't know how to tell you this but Jody, to the best of my knowledge, is gay. > Maybe you could turn her around. > I meant turn her around to the hetro lifestyle!!!!!!!! fred m Hi, Fred, I was going to comment on this before, but I "held my tongue" I don't know if you're making a joke or not, both times you posted this there's no smiley face or winky face, so I don't know if this is a joke. I believe it's a myth that someone can be "turned around" when it comes to sexual orientation. That's from experience at the ripe ol' age of 46 as well as what I read from the "experts". Btw, even though Jody has never come out publicly, most everyone I know who likes to speculate about things like this about Jody, well, consensus is that she's gay, or at minimum bi, but she's closeted due to her being a Hollywood power-broker and having so much at stake career-wise. After all, look at what happened to Ellen (although Ellen has definitely struck it rich in love!) Carol ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 08:54:23 -0700 From: Neile Graham Subject: Re: "Uncut" free 4AD cd Paul Blair wrote: >More on the "Uncut" 4AD CD: > >Whoever bought the magazine with the CD must live in England, because in >general, it isn't even out on the shelves yet in New York City. After work >today I went around to numerous magazine shops and music stores, to find >that they either had only October's issue or were sold out of that issue. > >The only exception was the Virgin Megastore on 14th St., which had a stack >of November *Uncut*s (the Times Square store hadn't received theirs yet). >Since Virgin is British-owned, I'm not surprised they had received theirs >ahead of everyone else. The issue has a banner across the top of the cover >proclaiming the "FREE 4AD CD!"--but at the Virgin Megastore, no CDs were >attached. I wonder if there will be any when all the other stores get >their November issues. Probably not--most of those free attachments to British magazines don't make it to the U.S. Sometimes they make it to Canada, though. - --Neile - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Neile Graham ..... http://www.sff.net/people/neile ..... neile@sff.net The Ectophiles' Guide to Good Music .... http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 12:38:45 -0400 From: julesette Subject: Re: saddest song you know Two songs guaranteed to really GET me... Steep by Lauren Christy Love Will Tear Us Apart by Joy Division ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 15:34:00 -0400 From: Hillary Jackson Subject: Susan McKeown On Monday night I went to a taping of Sessions at West 54th. The performer was Natalie Merchant and Natalie had asked Susan McKeown to sing with her on the show. Susan was featured on 3 songs, including an AMAZING version of Katell Keineg's "The Gulf of Araby." The other 2 songs were both from Ophelia; "When They Ring The Golden Bells" and one that I don't know the title of. In between takes, Susan sang, acappella, a verse from an Irish traditional song---which won't be on the broadcast I'm sure, but the studio audience enjoyed it a lot. I don't know when the show is going to be aired yet, but I'll let you know as soon as I find out. Hillary ====================================== Hillary Jackson 468 Sixth Avenue #4 New York, NY 10011 212.675.9629 212.645.0298 (fax) hillaryj@mindspring.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 15:48:18 -0400 (EDT) From: "jeffrey c. burka" Subject: Re: Susan McKeown Hillary sez: > Susan was featured on 3 songs, including an AMAZING version of Katell > Keineg's "The Gulf of Araby." Okay, so that's absolutely my favorite Katell song, and the idea of Natalie and Susan singing it together is just about more than I can stand. I'm usually really bad about remembering to catch Sessions, but here's one I just *HAVE* to see. jeff np: _Possessed_, Klezmatics ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 14:56:25 -0500 From: Karron Lynn Lane Subject: Re: Saddest Song You Know two sad songs that break my heart are: "lost in the moment" by edie brickell and "the living" from natalie merchant's recent "ophelia" release. they express powerlessness and hopelessness, respectively, that bring me to tears. edie's song, beautifully simple in style, reminds us of how little control we really do have. both are beautiful and moving pieces of music. i would have also listed "without you" a touching piece by harry nilsson, already mentioned. KLL ______________________________________________ The beginning of wisdom is to call things by their right name. anonymous ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 15:05:19 -0700 From: Richard Holmes Subject: Request: Song ID Hi all, Can any of you ID this song for me? Someone on another list sent this in and had no luck. Thanks, - -Richard. QUOTE: >>I have this mixed taped, someone made for someone >>who made it for someone etc. There is one song on it that i very >>much need to know who sings it (very very much). It is a female >>singer (i think the song is called "Am I"). It starts something >>like "Am I, Am I, Am I, Am I losing it. What is the point? What >>is the point of all this anger, What is the point". Then the >>brilliant chorus is "Am i broken, fallen angel, feathers drifting >>to the ground ... gently breaking without sound. Am i losing it?". @ \@/ Richard A. Holmes (rholmes@ccrma.stanford.edu) @ | @ \|/ "In the name of Annah the Allmaziful, the @ | Everliving, the Bringer of Plurabilities, haloed @ , , | , , be her eve, her singtime sung, her rill be run, @ ' ' ' ' ' unhemmed as it is uneven!" - J. J. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 17:27:46 -0500 (CDT) From: kerrywhite@webtv.net (kerry white) Subject: Re: Saddest Song You Know Hi, how 'bout,"I'm so Lonesome I Could Die": Hank Williams. "(I'm) Mr Blue": The Fleetwoods...... it's >old< but could be covered by The Neilds. bye, KrW TV or not TV? That is the question. Whether to suffer the lies of outrageous pitchmen, or to slit your throat with an electro-coated stainless steel blade? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 20:13:42 -0400 From: "Foghorn J Fornorn" Subject: RE: Saddest Song Most of the more contemporary suggestions I would have made have already been mentioned. As I've always been a fan of the old E.G. music artist stable et al, here are some off the top of my head I've always leaned on in times of dour moods: King Crimson - Epitaph, Cadence and Cascade, virtually the entire Islands album Roxy Music - from Flesh + Blood: Oh Yeah, Running Wild Peter Hammill - titles too plentiful to enumerate. fog ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 20:42:39 -4000 From: "Charlie Sweeney" Subject: re:saddest song The Ballad Of Penny Evans by Steve Goodman to the traditional tune "The Flying Cloud" (1973) Oh my name is Penny Evans and my age is twenty-one A young widow in the war that's being fought in Viet Nam And I have two infant daughters and I do the best I can Now they say the war is over, but I think it's just begun. And I remember I was seventeen on the day I met young Bill At his father's grand piano, we'd play good old 'Heart and Soul' Well, I only knew the left hand part and he the right so well He's the only boy I slept with and the only one I will. It's first we had a baby girl and we had two good years It was next the 1A notice came and we parted without tears It was nine months from our last good night our second babe appears So it's ten months and a telegram confirming all our fears. And now every month I get a check from an Army bureaucrat And it's every month I tear it up and I mail the damn thing back. Do you think that makes it all right, do you think I'd fall for that ? You can keep your bloody money, it sure won't bring my Billy back. I never cared for politics, speeches I don't understand, And likewise never took no charity from any living man But tonight there's fifty thousand gone in that unhappy land And fifty thousand 'Heart and Soul's' being played with just one hand. And my name is Penny Evans and I've just gone twenty-one A young widow in the war that's being fought in Viet Nam And I have two infant daughters and I thank God I have no sons Now they say the war is over, but I think it's just begun. The Goodman Lyrics Archival Depository is located at http://www.hepcat.com/goodman/ Charlie (=}===# ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 22:02:27 EDT From: Spbarker@aol.com Subject: Re: Saddest Song You Know I think several of mine have already been covered - KaTe's "This Woman's Work" and "Moments of Pleasure", also "Tecumseh Valley" (I only know the Nanci Griffith version). So here's a couple of different ones: Beverley Craven - "Promise Me" Elkie Brooks - "Pearl's A Singer" (for those old enough to remember it). Simon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 23:22:54 EDT From: Hiptones@aol.com Subject: Re: Saddest Song You Know 'Lo all, In a message dated 10/16/98 3:14:28 AM Central Daylight Time, cos@cs.brandeis.edu writes: << People have mentioned "February" and "The End of the Summer" by Dar Williams. Add "Mortal City" and "If I Wrote You" and "When Sal's Burned Down" and... wow, no wonder when she got together a project to record some of her favorite songs, it ended up being called Cry Cry Cry. >> I dunno...I've always felt that although Mortal City has a melancholy feel to it, the ending of the song inspires such hope that I can't help but feel warm and happy after hearing it. Maybe in that sense, it makes it a good fit for this mood. It expresses fears and sad feelings while at the same time offers the possibility that things will get better. "I really wish you liked this town. Maybe I do." This is one of my all-time favorite Dar songs. Also sad songs to the list... KaTe-- "Never Be Mine" Jane Siberry-- "Goodbye Sweet Pumpkinhead" (I reall love the Maria album) Just a couple off the top of my head. Cha d ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 00:10:13 EDT From: FAMarcus@aol.com Subject: Re: Saddest Song You Know In a message dated 10/16/98 11:48:33 AM Eastern Daylight Time, ckc2@mindspring.com writes: << don't know how to tell you this but Jody, to the best of my knowledge, is gay. > Maybe you could turn her around. > I meant turn her around to the hetro lifestyle!!!!!!!! fred m Hi, Fred, I was going to comment on this before, but I "held my tongue" I don't know if you're making a joke or not, both times you posted this there's no smiley face or winky face, so I don't know if this is a joke. >> carol, my tongue was planted firmly in my cheek. I couldn't care less what anyones sexual orientation is. Never did and never will. I just don't do the smiley face thing. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 17:49:31 -0700 From: lanblind@teleport.com Subject: Re: saddest song stuff/ecto-digest V4 #368 Hi and for sad sad Carol I weigh also with Kate's Woman's Work, especially for someone who died young and unfinished, "all of the things we should have said and all of the things that we wanted to do and never did" etc...also have to add "River" by Joni Mitchell, but more love sad then death sad, or are they the same? When it (love or life) is over, it feels the same. I wrote a pretty damn sad song for my mother right after she died but I am not releasing it for another week or two. Assisting at her death was the hardest, strongest, saddest and most beautiful thing I have ever ever done yet in this lifetime and I tryed to capture that. While we are thinking of sad and stupid hate crimes and murders, think of the young radical David Chain crushed under a tree by an irate logger who was screaming (on video, being ignored by the press)" that he was going get you fuckers, drop a tree on you, yes sir, wished I brought my pistol to work" and other such niceties. LAND OF THE BLIND, my project, is donating 1/2 of all monies to EarthFirst for the Headwaters fight and so I have heard much more behind the scenes info than the average joe, check it out through Julia Butterfly's page and Headland's action, which shows the video I believe. www:HeadwatersForest.org./david.chain peace, cy 3439 NE Sandy Blvd., Suite 266 Portland, Oregon USA (503) 321-5093 email lanblind@teleport.com http://www.teleport.com/~lanblind/ Distributed through: "Out of Chaos"-- Burnside Distribution "One Eye"-- Rainforest Records - ----- End forwarded message ----- ------------------------------ End of ecto-digest V4 #370 **************************