From: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org (ecto-digest) To: ecto-digest@smoe.org Subject: ecto-digest V4 #335 Reply-To: ecto@smoe.org Sender: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Saturday, September 19 1998 Volume 04 : Number 335 Today's Subjects: ----------------- WXRT Chicago radio & IWBKate [stunning@tezcat.com] Today's your birthday, friend... [Mike Matthews ] WANTED: Music I Can't Find Anywhere [samsamiam@juno.com (Sami T.)] Re: Jane Siberry Question (AB SOUND) [neal copperman ] Re: WANTED: Music I Can't Find Anywhere [neal copperman ] JANE MAGAZINE, CAT POWER [irvin lin ] JANE SIBERRY [irvin lin ] COCO LOUNGE (meaning COCO CLUB?) [irvin lin ] Re: Jane Siberry Question (AB SOUND) [FAMarcus@aol.com] Re: OAC: One more thing on Chan Marshall, then I'm done, I swear! :) [Nei] Re: Jane Siberry Question (AB SOUND) [Neile Graham ] Re: WANTED: Music I Can't Find Anywhere [Neile Graham ] Re: Jane Siberry Question (AB SOUND) [Neile Graham ] CD distribution: myth or imagination? ["Robert Lovejoy" ] Re: Chicago area folks: Celtic Fest Chicago [Michael Curry ] Re: Who the hecck is Jane Siberry? [JavaHo@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 19 Sep 1998 01:22:25 -0600 From: stunning@tezcat.com Subject: WXRT Chicago radio & IWBKate Hi all, I just found out that on Sunday night 9-20-98, WXRT 93.1 FM Radio Chicago will be featuring a segment on local music and will include stuff from "I WANNA BE KATE" on their local music show "Local Anesthetic." Air time is 7:30pm. When WKQX (101.1 FM) had The Aluminum Group on to promote their new album PLANO, they spent 10 minutes talking about Kate and the I WANNA BE KATE project. I wish I had a tape of it cuz I'd throw a transcript up on the list, but it was so cool. Anyway, XRT and Q101 are two of Chicago biggest radio stations, so this is really cool...and I can only assume that the DJ's at XRT (who love Kate) will have some interesting discussion on Kate and on the IWBKate CD. ps. Nora O'Connor(of The Saxophone Song on IWBKate)'s band "The Blacks" (harmony vocals, guitar & piano) will have a song played from their new CD on XRT on Saturday at 4:45pm. The Blacks new CD is called "Dolly Horrorshow"(Bloodshot Records) and is being released the same day as IWBKate(9-22). now playing: Lucinda Williams-Car Wheels on a Gravel Road (just finished), putting on Butterfly Child-Soft Exlosives... Thomas Dunning Brown Star Records Chicago I WANNA BE KATE: The Songs of Kate Bush http://www.tezcat.com/~stunning/kate/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Sep 1998 03:00:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Mike Matthews Subject: Today's your birthday, friend... i*i*i*i*i*i i*i*i*i*i*i *************** *****HAPPY********* **************BIRTHDAY********* *************************************************** *************************************************************************** ***************** Mark Frabotta (markfrab@microsoft.com) ****************** *************************************************************************** -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Mark Frabotta Sun September 19 1965 Don't even THINK about parking here Joe Zitt Sat September 20 1958 Will Hack for CDs Ani DiFranco Wed September 23 1970 Virgo Paul Kim Sat October 01 1977 fetal position William Gill Wed October 05 1960 A wide-eyed wanderer Dan Riley Sun October 08 1961 Libra Neile Graham Wed October 08 1958 pen Quenby M. Chunco Tue October 08 1968 Crunchy Frog Mike Garland Wed October 08 1952 Creature_of_the_Night Irvin Lin Tue October 09 1973 Libra Michael C. Berch Wed October 10 1956 No parking Chris Gagnon Sat October 10 1970 Libra Wolfgang Drotschmann Thu October 13 1966 Waage Gracescape Fri October 13 1967 unbalanced Brian Bloom Tue October 14 1969 spam Erik N. Johnson Tue October 16 1962 Handle with Care Kim Klouda Tue October 17 1967 Libra - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Sep 1998 00:26:45 -0700 From: samsamiam@juno.com (Sami T.) Subject: WANTED: Music I Can't Find Anywhere Hi Fellow Ecto-Heads! :-) There are a few artists whose albums I cannot find in any record stores here in my beautiful, but totally musically un-cool podunk town of San Diego. Does anyone have a copy of any of these they could possibly share with me? I'm *especially* interested in having the In Tua Nua recording and can't find it ANYWHERE. In Tua Nua - "The Long Acre" (Virgin USA - out of print) Damhnait Doyle - "Jumping the Shadows" (Canadian Import) Eleanor McEvoy - "What's Following Me?" (Columbia) Suzanne Little - "Be Here Now" (Canadian Import) All About Eve - "Scarlet and Other Stories" (Polygram Import) Eddi Reader - "Eddie Reader" (Sire) Grace Pool - "Awake With the Rain" (Sire - out of print) Thanks for letting me know and for any tips anyone has on how to find these or how to get copies! P.S. I can't use an internet CD ordering service, unfortunately, at this time all I have is e-mail and no internet access (ah, the meager life of a poverty-stricken student.....) :-( P.P.S. If there are any Ectophiles from the San Diego area, PLEASE e-mail me. It would be great to know someone else here in town who has GREAT musical taste! And perhaps you could direct me to the best music stores, small venues, etc. I've lived here two years and haven't really figured out my way around here yet, as far as these things go! Also, do *any* good shows *ever* come through here??? ~Sami~ n.p. "This Beautiful Mess" - Sixpence None the Richer n.r. "Gracias" - Henry Nouwen <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> "Visualize Whirled Peas" _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Sep 1998 01:33:17 -0600 From: neal copperman Subject: Re: Jane Siberry Question (AB SOUND) At 9:43 AM -0700 9/14/98, Richard Holmes wrote: >>I've got 21 Jane or Jane-related discs, which really amazed me. Outside of >>the ones attributed directly to her, this includes: > >Amazing. I usually don't have the money or patience to do such extensive >collecting. Any ones which are really outstanding? Ok, I'm foolish enough to do this a second time. (My computer died just as I completed this a few days ago . I can't believe Eudora doesn't save mail buffers! One more strike against it. So far, I still prefer Pine.) Anyway, I'm combining everything people posted on the Jane-related albums. I'll put comments in parenthesis after them if I know anything about them. Please correct me if you find any mistakes. Also, if anyone wants to repost it over to siblings to see if they can add to it, that would be cool. Until The End of the World Soundtrack, 1991 (Warner Bros.) (Another of Wim Wenders stellar soundtrack albums. It has a number of popular songs on it that were not available at the time this was released but later showed up on the artists own albums (Lou Reed, R.E.M., U2). Jane's contribution is Calling All Angels. I don't know if it's the same version as on WIWAB, which came out a few years later.) Hello, BETTY! - Betty, 1991 (The Man From B.E.T.T.Y.) (DC Dog is a tribute to Jane's Bound By The Beauty, with some direct nods to Jane in the song and the albums credits. The album is probably my favorite cabaret pop album ever, but that might come from seeing Betty regularly for years. Largely a capella, but with some clever vocal arrangements. A very fun album, (unfortunately) far superior to their later efforts.) Count Your Blessings, 1993 (Alert Music) (If you have any tolerance for holiday music, this is highly recommended. I generally can't take much seasonal music, but I love Jane's holiday albums. I'm happy to listen to them any time of year. This is whittled down from a live concert with the stellar lineup of Holly Cole, Rebecca Jenkins, Mary Margaret O'Hara, Victoria Williams, and Tim Ray. Hector Zazou - Songs from the Cold Seas,1994 (Columbia) (This is a brilliant album. Definitely one of my favorites. It's a concept album dealing with all things Arctic. The guest list is stunning, including Susan Vega & John Cale, Siouxsie Sioux, Vartinna, Bjork, and many more. Jane's contribution is the beautiful She Is Like A Swallow. I can't recommend this album highly enough.) The Crow Soundtrack, 1994 (Atlantic) (This is a very noisy album! Full of stuff like NIN, Rollins Band, Pantera, My Life With The Thrill Kill Kult. There are a few tracks on the album I like, but it closes (like the movie did) with Jane's It Can't Rain All The Time. This is a breathtakingly beautiful song, and I believe this is the only place you can get it.) David Massengill - The Return, 1995 (Plump Records) (DM is a folksinger/storyteller. His songs are all clever tales told in his warm, slightly gruff voice. Jane's contribution to the album is backup on a few songs. Nothing that really jumps out. Get it if the description of Massengill sounds interesting.) U. Srinivas and Michael Brook - Dream, 1995 (Realworld) (Indian sitar music mixed with modern electronics for a nice world music hybrid. The songs are pretty long [4 of them make up the whole album]. Jane's contribution is pretty minimal, but stands out. a couple of minutes of haunting wordless vocals. The album usually falls into the background for me when I listen to it, though I do like it.) Winter, Fire and Snow - Songs for the Holiday Season, 1995 (Atlantic) (Kind of a mixed bag. Many of the songs are album versions that appear in other places. Jane's song is Are You Burning, Little Candle (which you can also find on Child), a non-denominational holiday tune. It's not a bad sampler, containings songs by Jewel, Gipsy Kings, Robbie Robertson, Julia Fordham, Bel Canto, Clannad, and the stunningly beautiful title track by Anuna.) Land of the Blind - One Eye, 1995 (Rainforest Records) (Album contains a cover of Calling All Angels. Unfortunately, it sounds like much of the rest of the album - slick, overproduced, and without much charm. Can't really recommend it. [Their second album is far far better.]) Patty Larkin - Perishable Fruit, 1997 (High Records) (Jane sings backup on some songs on this album. Can't really recall them myself. This is the album where Patty leaps from being a decent bluesy folk singer to being a clever and imaginative pop singer.) Joe Jackson & Friends - Heaven and Hell, 1997 (Sony) (Another concept album, this one loosely based on the Seven Deadly Sins. Jane's contribution, The Bridge, is for envy. It's quite jazzy, definitely in the Maria vein. I've really enjoyed the rest of the album too, which is orchestrated pop. Lot's of other interesting guests too, including Dawn Upshaw, Suzanne Vega, Brad Roberts (Crash Test Dummies) and Joy Askew.) I know a bit about these, but don't have them (yet): My Mother is not the White Dove - from "Arcane" (Realworld) (One of the many Realworld jam session albums. I know this song from concerts, where I have always enjoyed it. Airy and beautiful in the vein of It Can't Rain All THe Time and She Is Like A Swallow.) Harmonix - from the Jam Nation album "Way Down Below Buffalo Hell" (Realworld) (I see this used a lot. Looks like another Realworld jam session album.) Shir Amami - from "Festival of Light" (This is a Hanukah album. Jane's song didn't really jump out at me all that much. I've listened to the album a number of times, and like samplers of this nature, it's a pretty mixed bag. There were 4 or 5 tunes I liked a fair amount, but never bothered to pick it up.) When I think of Laura Nyro - form "Time & Love: a tribute to LN" (Jane's contribution is an audio collage like her "Day in the Life" disc. Some find it very clever, others infuriating.) Happy Worker (reprise) - Toys Soundtrack (Not sure about this soundtrack, but I have a tape of this song, and it's a hoot. Sorta like Jane's 80's poppy stuff, but with newer equipment.) I don't know anything about the following: This Old Earth - from the Fred Frith soundtrack for the Peter Mettler film "The Top of His Head" (Something about Trains on cold medication) Innig - from Nigel Kennedy's "Kafka" Antigua (Blue Heaven) - from Chalk Circle's "As the Crow Flies" My Mother... (live) - from "Kumbaya 199(5?)" JS with the Barenaked Ladies A Long time love song - from "Kick at the Darkness - a tribute to Bruce Cockburn" (JS with Martin Tielli) Slow Tango - from the Faraway, So Close soundtrack (Another Wim Wenders soundtrack.) Fat City - Shawn Colvin (There is a song on this album about Jane.) Swamp Ophelia - Indigo Girls (Jane does backup under the pseudonym "Jane Sibery".) "Amazing Grace" benefit album (Live version of Calling All Angels.) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Sep 1998 01:48:02 -0600 From: neal copperman Subject: Re: WANTED: Music I Can't Find Anywhere At 12:26 AM -0700 9/19/98, Sami T. wrote: >P.P.S. If there are any Ectophiles from the San Diego area, PLEASE >e-mail me. It would be great to know someone else here in town who has >GREAT musical taste! And perhaps you could direct me to the best music >stores, small venues, etc. I've lived here two years and haven't really >figured out my way around here yet, as far as these things go! Also, do >*any* good shows *ever* come through here??? I'm not in San Diego, but I know it pretty well. The best cd shopping, both new and used (unless it's changed in recent years), is Joe's Record Paradise up in Encinitas. Nationally known live music didn't seem to frequent San Diego. Occasionally someone shows up at the clubs (Belly Up, Kasbah, and I know there are a few others that opened up after I left... Brick by Brick?). Also occasional shows of interest at UCSD. And every once in a while someone cool passes through town (I'm still bummed that I left just before Loreena McKennit played at that tiny theater in Encinitas.) The list of cool people I've seen in SD is huge and varied, including Diamanda Galas, Heidi Berry, Liz Phair, Tori, Kirsty MacColl, Richard Thompson, Mazzy Star, and Jewel. I'd recommend learning the local musicians. That's always my favorite part of spending time in San Diego. I was there for 10 weeks last summer and didn't see a single non-local show, and I saw about 18 shows. I think the coffeehouse scene there is stunning, and could find good shows on a regular basis. If you like the singer/songwriter stuff, you should be in heaven. I'd look for Lisa Sanders and Elizabeth Hummell. Brilliant and quirky (and kinda nationally known) Cindy Lee Berryhill can also often be found playing around town. The focal point of the scene is Java Joe's in Ocean Beach, but another good spot is the Clair De Lune Coffeehouse. I know others who are really fond of Mary Dolan (she likes to cover Melissa Etheridge, and overdoes it in much the same way [my biases showing through]). And if Joy Eden Harrison comes back to town (she moved to Chicago last year), you should go see her too. If you also like male vocals, look for Gregory Page, or the occasional returns of Steve Poltz and Rugburns reunions. Harder rocking and experimental people have come out of the scene too, like Rocket From The Crypt (growing out of Drive Like Jehu) and Heavy Vegetable. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 14:09:20 -0700 From: irvin lin Subject: JANE MAGAZINE, CAT POWER jessica, CAT POWER (CHAN MARSHALL's moniker) has been talked a bit recently. but thanks for bringing up the article in JANE magazine! gotta check it out. there also was a nice little blurb in the recent OUT magazine reviewing MOON PIX (gave it 4 stars i think) can i just say, being firmly entrenched in the whole girl culture, i was extremely disappointed when i first picked up JANE magazine. i was hoping for another SASSY (JANE being the magazine that SASSY's old editor-in-chief started up). it isn't bad in comparison to other fem mags like GLAMOUR or ALLURE, but it certainly isn't as cool or as countercultural as SASSY was. occasionally there are good articles though, and i am tempted to subscribe but something always holds me back. maybe it is the fact that despite the magazine trying to hold onto the whole "diversify and empowering" theme that carries over from the old SASSY days, it does nothing but showcase the same old skinny girl in expensive clothing spreads. and when someone writes in to complain about how the models look like they are anorexic, the editor writes back about how she doesn't understand why it is more acceptable to bash thin women's bodies than heavy ones. she goes on to say that it is important to showcase a wide variety of body types in the magazines so that everyone can relate. EXCEPT that they have yet (to my knowledge) used a model over a size 4. anyway the magazine isn't all bad, especially for being a mainstream middle of the road femmag. there are definitely worse, and some of the articles are pretty darn funny (like the one where they pretend to be famous people's personal assistants and call up fashion designers to see if they can get free clothes for them to wear to events. MARILYN MANSON was the best, with DOLCE & GABBANA saying that they will even alter the pants for him. Jane replied "but he needs a dress" and they answered back "oh, that's okay too", while RICKI LAKE didn't fare so great - BETSEY JOHNSON said they had no real "ricki" sizes there). BUT for really good femmags, check out BUST magazine, or BITCH magazine (the latter being more 'zine like, while the former being more slick). both are intellegent and funny and total on top of things when it comes to girl culture. also worth checking out, if you want higher end mags is the new GIRL magazine put out by the same people who did MODE (an adult fashion magazine for women sizes 12 and up), HUES a great magazine about empowerment and inclusiveness, and HIP MAMA a really great parenting 'zine worth reading, even if you aren't a mama, and/or don't plan on being one (ie. like me, being i am both gay and male, motherhood probably isn't in my future - at least not without major medical advances). the spring issue of 1998 featured KRISTIN HERSH and her motherhood, as well as an article by SUSIE BRIGHT. irvin (who isn't quite sure why he knows so much about the whole femmag scene, other than he loves to to read magazines, and buys them by the handful. actually the cartful. maybe i have too many friends who are third wave feminists and it just rubbed off on me. or maybe i just love reading about fashion and make up.) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 14:09:28 -0700 From: irvin lin Subject: JANE SIBERRY someone asked about JANE SIBERRY, and all i can say is that each and every album is nearly completely different than the other. she is also hard to pin down with comparisons, but if i were to pick names, the closest people who come near her musically would be KATE BUSH, LAURIE ANDERSON, and MARY MARGARET O'HARA though if you don't know JANE SIBERRY, you probably don't MARY MARGARET O'HARA. she is definitely worth checking out as well. it is easier to describe each album so chronologically: JANE SIBERRY her first album, this comes closest to "folk" as her music gets, as it songs of JANE that she performed in coffeeshops in and around town. pretty sparse musically, think first two albums of SUZANNE VEGA, with more vocal layering and harmonizing, using her voice to create textures and sounds, more than just lyrics. she explores this much more in later albums. NO BORDER HERE is JANE discovering the synthesizer and becoming very NU WAVE 80's. i don't listen to it very often, but it is surprisingly catchy, if not a little dated sounding. very perky pop electronic keyboards, and fairlight programming everywhere. SPECKLESS SKY is a transitional album (think KATE BUSH's NEVER FOR EVER between KATE's KICK INSIDE/LIONHEART early work and her THE DREAMING/HOUNDS OF LOVE masterpieces). strong in songwriting, there are still elements of the 80's electronic keyboard in the songs, but the songs don't quite sound as throw away or as kitchy as they do on NO BORDERS HERE. THE WALKING is one of her masterpieces. stunning, it's her THE DREAMING or HOUNDS OF LOVE in terms of pinacle emotions and surreality. it is an album of loss and introspection. with songs like GOODBYE "i went to say i love you and instead i said goodbye" to the actual song THE WALKING (and constantly) " i was sure until they asked me, now i don't know...all i know is something touched me...there nothing that will bring you back...tell everyone a different story, that way nothings ever boring, even if when they turn and say you lied...." to THE BIRD AND THE GRAVEL which is a 9 minute long experimental soundscape of thought, emotion, and season changes. BOUND BY THE BEAUTY is a return to her folk (at times almost country) roots, and has some beautiful gems like HOCKEY and LIFE IS A RED WAGON. recorded in four days it is spontaneous with out being fluffy, lighthearted without being sappy, and accessible without being watered down. definetly worth getting. WHEN I WAS A BOY is another true masterpiece. if THE WALKING is to KATE's HOUNDS OF LOVE, then WHEN I WAS A BOY is to KATE'S SENSUAL WORLD. lush, beautiful, perfect in nearly every way, it is incredibly complex and gorgeous. collaborating with BRIAN ENO and MICHAEL BROOKS, JANE is able to create an album full of spirituality, sensuality and seductiveness without becoming cloying, sappy, or (gasp the worst) ECTOBLAND. incredible, it is a lost masterpiece, and it is too bad that there are more people out there who don't own it or even know of its existence. i once loaned it to a coworker of mine and nearly didn't get it back (he held onto for 6 months, and it took me telling him that i was actually moving across the country to get him to return it). MARIA is JANE doing a freeform JAZZ vocal album. fun, dashing, and quite a surprise for her longstanding fans, it still has her trade mark voice and songwriting, but all accompanied with jazz session musicians. quite clean and spontaneous. TEENAGER is a re-recording of old songs that JANE wrote when she was a teenager. it includes the early pre-quel song BESSIE to the song THE MYSTERY OF OGWEN'S FARM that appeared on her first album. probably not worth tracking down unless you are fan, or really like her first album a lot. lots of spare acoustic guitar, and songs that occasionally go a refrain one too long. A DAY IN THE LIFE is an ep of random musing by JANE. i don't have it, so i am probably not the best person to write about it, but from what i hear it is only worth tracking down if you are a fan. CHILD is a double CD of christmas music, from a live performance. it is the first in a planned trilogy of live CD sets from JANE (the other two called LIPS and TREES are on hold at the moment, as JANE works out financial problems). for more information about how to get any of the above CD's feel free to check out http://www.sheeba.ca which is JANE's website, and is where all of JANE's new releases will be available (exclusively) also of note, a book of poetry that JANE just wrote and published. it is featured at the sheeba website. more questions? feel free to ask irvin ps. i have no affiliations with jane or sheeba. i just like her music a lot. can't you tell? pps. no worries eponine about flip flopping with your thoughts on BFP. i know how i feel about it, and about every six months or so i pull it out to try it again, thinking it will finally click (even though i forced myself to listen to it three months in a row when i got the promo copy of it, what with everyone telling me that i should love it). but then i put it right back. nope. does nothing for me. ah well. to each their own. but everyone is entitled to their opinions, and they are also entitled to changing them whenever they want. i mean i loathed ANI DIFRANCO the first time i heard her (i heard the wrong CD first i guess) but then i gave her another shot, and now i am a HUGE fan. so whatever. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 14:10:29 -0700 From: irvin lin Subject: COCO LOUNGE (meaning COCO CLUB?) drew stated his confusion with: >Scrappy Bitches Tour Sept 29 San Fransisco, CA The Coco Lounge > >Okay, I'm starting to feel a little slow here, but know SF pretty well, >and have never heard of the "Coco Lounge". Anyone got a contact - and >phone number, and address, anything. Is it possible "Club Cocodrie" is >what is intended? nope. it is probably the COCO CLUB that can be found SOUTH OF MARKET (SOMA for those in the know). it has only been open for about a year or two, and from what i hear, is pretty hip. it is often referred to as a lesbian bar/club space, but i hear it is pretty mixed gender-wise, though definitely more homo than het orientated (though i know of hets who hang out and go there for a beer now and again). very relaxed sort of atmosphere. dunno if i am going to make it to the show though. anyway they are on 8th street (139 8th to be exact). call them at 415.626.2337 or check out their website http://www.whatshappenin.com/cococlub which i haven't checked out yet, so i don't know if there is more info there or not, i am just quoting from their ad in the GUARDIAN. irvin ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Sep 1998 07:42:27 EDT From: FAMarcus@aol.com Subject: Re: Jane Siberry Question (AB SOUND) In a message dated 9/19/98 3:32:05 AM Eastern Daylight Time, neal@swcp.com writes: << Happy Worker (reprise) - Toys Soundtrack (Not sure about this soundtrack, but I have a tape of this song, and it's a hoot. Sorta like Jane's 80's poppy stuff, but with newer equipment.) >> i thought this cut was by TORI AMOS ??????? .......fred ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Sep 1998 10:14:48 -0700 From: Neile Graham Subject: Re: OAC: One more thing on Chan Marshall, then I'm done, I swear! :) Jessica, and all-- A friend has been telling me to buy Cat Power's music for a few year's now, saying that since I liked Throwing Muses so much I would like Cat Food. Thi is someone who has given me some good musical suggestions over the years. However, I never followed this one up because whenever I was in a store, I couldn't remember if it was Cat Power or Cat Food I was looking for. Duh. - --Neile n.p. _Rhodes I_, we're at "Step Inside" - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Neile Graham ..... http://www.sff.net/people/neile ..... neile@sff.net The Ectophiles' Guide to Good Music .... http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Sep 1998 10:22:13 -0700 From: Neile Graham Subject: Re: Jane Siberry Question (AB SOUND) neal copperman wrote: >>>I've got 21 Jane or Jane-related discs, which really amazed me. Outside of >>>the ones attributed directly to her, this includes: Thanks for retyping this, Neal. You do need to get _The Hanging Garden_ Soundtrack, though. ;> >Ok, I'm foolish enough to do this a second time. (My computer died just as >I completed this a few days ago . I can't believe Eudora doesn't >save mail buffers! One more strike against it. So far, I still prefer >Pine.) Well, you can just periodically save any message you're composing. I automatically do if the message is getting long. The dangers are small beside the convenience of being able to read & compose responses offline for me. BTW, there's a new version of Pine just out at the University of Washington. Now I am really confused about the commands since my ISP has one version and at work at the UW I have the new one. Just enough different to cause brain strain. - --Neile n.p. Rhodes I still, now at "The Flaming Threshold"--"I'm forever reaching for the fire" gives me shivers. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Neile Graham ..... http://www.sff.net/people/neile ..... neile@sff.net The Ectophiles' Guide to Good Music .... http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Sep 1998 10:33:15 -0700 From: Neile Graham Subject: Re: WANTED: Music I Can't Find Anywhere Sami T. wrote: >There are a few artists whose albums I cannot find in any record stores >here in my beautiful, but totally musically un-cool podunk town of San >Diego. > Damhnait Doyle - "Jumping the Shadows" (Canadian Import) > Suzanne Little - "Be Here Now" (Canadian Import) If you have access to a credit card, you can order these via 800 numbers. A&B Sound can be reached at 1-800-663-0596 HMV Toronto at 1-800-567-8468 and Sam the Record Man at 1-800-265-7267. Any of these three should have both of these. > Eleanor McEvoy - "What's Following Me?" (Columbia) > All About Eve - "Scarlet and Other Stories" (Polygram Import) > Eddi Reader - "Eddie Reader" (Sire) These are pretty readily available used here in Seattle. Try emailing Cellophane Square at music@cellophane.com > Grace Pool - "Awake With the Rain" (Sire - out of print) They might also be able to provide this. Maybe even the In Tua Nua. >P.S. I can't use an internet CD ordering service, unfortunately, at this >time all I have is e-mail and no internet access (ah, the meager life of >a poverty-stricken student.....) :-( Doesn't your school provide web access? I thought most did by now. Anyway, good luck! - --Neile n.p. silence, Rhodes I just ended. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Neile Graham ..... http://www.sff.net/people/neile ..... neile@sff.net The Ectophiles' Guide to Good Music .... http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Sep 1998 10:38:19 -0700 From: Neile Graham Subject: Re: Jane Siberry Question (AB SOUND) At 7:42 AM -0400 9/19/98, FAMarcus@aol.com wrote: >In a message dated 9/19/98 3:32:05 AM Eastern Daylight Time, neal@swcp.com >writes: > ><< Happy Worker (reprise) - Toys Soundtrack > (Not sure about this soundtrack, but I have a tape of this song, > and it's a hoot. Sorta like Jane's 80's poppy stuff, but with newer > equipment.) >> > >i thought this cut was by TORI AMOS ??????? .......fred The first version is, but the reprised version at the end of the disc is an uncredited performance by Jane Siberry. Strange, eh? Maybe it wasn't credited because Reprise wouldn't give the okay for her to do it. There was some talk about it at the time, can anyone remember if there was any reason given for this? - --Neile - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Neile Graham ..... http://www.sff.net/people/neile ..... neile@sff.net The Ectophiles' Guide to Good Music .... http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Sep 1998 15:05:25 -0400 From: "Robert Lovejoy" Subject: CD distribution: myth or imagination? Hi folks, I don't know what it is with me. Seems most folks can walk into a CD store and find what they're looking for, but me... Been to three stores so far today; none have the new Firesign album I'm looking for. At the local Strawberries (Walnut St. in Philly), the clerk said five people were in before me asking about it but they hadn't gotten it yet. On a whim, I asked him how Happy's new album was selling. "We don't carry it, but I got the promo copy they sent us. It's pretty good!" This is a sad state of affairs. I do order from CDNow now and then, and it looks like that's what I'll have to do eventually, but it amazes me how poorly music is distributed, especially for the "fringe" artists I seem to like. Thanks for letting me vent, Your musical Quasimodo, Bob L. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Sep 1998 13:57:17 -0500 From: Mark Lowry Subject: Ecto is giving me EWS OK guys, Since I've joined this list, I've had the eagle eye out for some of the stuff you guys talk about. Here's what I recently found. Holly McNarland _Sour Pie_ I *love* this EP, (I'm assuming that's what it is since it only has 6 tracks). My fave track is "Stormy." Also love "Cry or Cum." So, someone give me the lowdown. Who is she? What else is out there? What should I look for? Geraldine Fibbers _Lost Somewhere Between the Earth and My Home_ Of course I've heard of this band before, but never picked up anything. I found this in the ultra-cheap bin ($1.99!). Only given one listen so far, but like what I hear. McKinley _Big Top Shop Talk_ I recognized her from the Samson website, plus saw that she covers "When Doves Cry." It's not as good of a cover of this song as Austin singer-songwriter Kris McKay ... who contributed her cover to a terrific Austin compilation last year (or the year before?) called _Do Me Baby!: Austin Does Prince_, which also features a fabulous cover of "Darling Nikki" by Christina Marrs, the chanteuse for Asylum Street Spankers. *Anyway,* only given the McKinley album one listen, but I liked it OK. Nothing really grabbed me, but I'll give a few more whirls before making opinion. Melissa Ferrick _Willing to Wait_ I had her first one on cassette at one time. Found this one for $1.99 also. Also picked up Janet's _The Velvet Rope_ because, OK, I admit it -- I like her (fake boobs and all). On first listen I approve, it's a little different than the other stuff she's done. But she really needs to give up the Interlude thing. In other news, had the privilege of meeting up with longtime Ectophile Chip, since he spends a lot of time in Dallas these days. I'm trying to talk him into joining me for the Patty Griffin/Heather Nova show in Fort Worth this Thursday. Ilka, he said that you'd kill him if he passed up a chance to see Heather. So give him the guilt trip. Besides, it's a free show. Also, seriously considering Happy's Philly show, since she's not doing NYC anymore. Any suggestions on hotel? Is there one that the Ecto out-of-towners will stay at? Looking forward to Cat Power's _Moon Pix_, although I'm greatly upset that they're doing Austin and Houston and not Dallas. What's up with that? Mark n.p. _Sour Pie_ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Sep 1998 14:42:09 -0400 From: Michael Curry Subject: Re: Chicago area folks: Celtic Fest Chicago - --=====================_2540829==_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 12:49 AM 9/16/98 -0500, Xenu's Sister wrote: >I haven't seen The Donal Lunny Band, but as far as I'm >concerned, anyone who's been in such great bands (Planxty, >Bothy Band, Moving Hearts) and who's worked with such >great musicians (including Loreena McKennitt, Altan, Sharon >Shannon and, of course, our dear KaTe) is worth seeing. I had Donal's band highly recommended to me by someone with pretty good taste in music, but I had heard enough unkind comments about him (mainly on the IRTRAD-L mailing list, but mainly about his production style rather than his musical abilties) that I wasn't that enthusiastic about catching him live. Luckily, when I went to see Altan a few weeks ago they were playing a promo copy of the upcoming Donal Lunny Band album so I got a chance to hear just what I would have been missing. Not the pure drop by any means, but damn good all the same. Maighread Ni Dohmhnaill's voice is amazing. Mike np: Rachel Sage -- Smashing the Serene - --=====================_2540829==_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" | Michael Curry / mcurry@io.com / mcurry@smoe.org | | http://www.io.com/~mcurry | | Am I bitter? Do I sound bitter? -- Veda Hille | - --=====================_2540829==_-- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Sep 1998 17:37:07 -0400 From: Paul Blair Subject: Cowboy Junkies Went to see Cowboy Junkies opened by Over the Rhine last night at the Beacon Theater in New York. Although $35 was a bit steep, it was well worth it for me, who have never heard them in concert before. (The person I was with tells of a time she saw them in a little bar in Stamford, CT with no cover, no drink minimum, and hardly any crowd--hard to believe given the way they filled up the place last night.) OTR's opener was fairly good; one or two of the songs were enough to put their CD on my "to buy" list. On the other hand, I liked the Junkies so much I was almost ashamed to have only one album of theirs (*Pale Sun, Crescent Moon*). After the show I ran right out and bought *Miles from our Home,* basically on the strength of "Summer of Discontent," which, despite the fact that I'd never heard it before, riveted me. (That was even without making out the words--now that I've read them I'm completely bowled over.) It was interesting to see the way the Junkies appropriated members of OTR during the show: on several songs they were accompanied by three or four members of the other band: Karin Berquist (sp? the lead singer), the backing vocalist, the keyboard player, and the lead guitarist. Though I've seen Cowboy Junkies mentioned here from time to time, I'm surprised they don't get more discussion on the list. Cheers, Paul ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Sep 1998 17:55:01 EDT From: JavaHo@aol.com Subject: Re: Who the hecck is Jane Siberry? Neile answers Eponine: << She's really hard to describe because she's one of those people you compare people to rather than the other way around, and her musical style has changed a lot over time--it's almost different with each album. She started very folky, became new wave-y pop, then countryish, then more ethereal, and now is pretty jazz-flavoured. She doesn't have a pretty voice, but she uses it well. >> I had much the same thought regarding comparisons. I always try to provide comparisons to give someone a better idea of whether they would like an artist or not. But everyone that popped into my mind was someone that I would describe by saying that they sounded a bit like Jane, oddly though, not the other way around. The closest I could come vocally is Patty Larkin on her Perishable Fruit CD. In fact, Jane did a lovely background vocal on a song from this album that could easily have been a Sib song. Her albums are so incredibly different, and I'm by no means an expert as I do not have them all. Maria is a little too jazzy for my taste and Bound By the Beauty is too country for me. Teenager is probably (as someone already mentioned) something that would appeal to fans...nothing there to really knock you down. The only thing that I would argue with Neile on is regarding the prettiness of her voice. I can't imagine why her voice wouldn't be considered pretty. There are very few songs that threaten to bring me to tears, but "Calling All Angels" is one of them...musically and lyrically. The harmony vocal is by kd lang, and I have to say that Jane matches her note for note. Even though I've played it to death and am a little tired of it, it still manages to get to me. I remember thinking about how her vocal technique reminded me somewhat of Joni Mitchell on this song...mostly the vibrato. Regarding other comparisons that have been made, I think the one that I really don't get is KaTe. I can understand perhaps a comparison to the intelligence or unusualness (OK...I do know that this is not a real word) of the songwriting. Musically and vocally, though, I probably wouldn't go there. I'd be much more inclined to lean toward bits of Laurie Anderson or Suzanne Vega with a little Joni thrown in. Best I can do. But I do have to say that you should not make a judgement based on listening to one album. Depending on how wide-ranging your musical taste is, chances are you will not care for all of her releases. Give everything a try. Good luck and be sure to report back what you think...Java ------------------------------ End of ecto-digest V4 #335 **************************