From: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org (ecto-digest) To: ecto-digest@smoe.org Subject: ecto-digest V4 #310 Reply-To: ecto@smoe.org Sender: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Tuesday, September 8 1998 Volume 04 : Number 310 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Pamela, Pamela ... EWS, samplers and Noa [Marion Kippers ] Museum of Radio & Television? [DaveRaver@aol.com] Elizabeth Hummel Newsletter ["Hummel e-mailer" ] ecto pages updated [meredith ] Fwd: Elizabeth Hummel Newsletter [Riphug@aol.com] rachael sage and others [meredith ] Re: rachael sage and others ["Jeffrey C. Burka" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 07 Sep 1998 13:41:56 +0200 (W. Europe Daylight Time) From: Marion Kippers Subject: Pamela, Pamela ... EWS, samplers and Noa Hi, I wrote about Susan McKeown's "Bushes & briars": [Like] > it very much on first hearing. Reminds me at times of Anita Best and > Pamela Golden's wonderful cd "The colour of Amber", of which I still And jeffy did a double or triple take... I'm sorry. :-( I should have checked - it's indeed Pamela Morgan, not Pamela Golden, who recorded that wonderful album with Anita Best. I haven't heard anything by Pamela Golden yet... My apologies for the confusion. I've had a minor case of EWS (Ecto / Empty Wallet Syndrome) recently, and within a couple of weeks I bought more cd's than in the previous months of this years so far. Here's what I got: - - Happy Rhodes - Many worlds are born tonight (a wonderful, brilliant cd - it amazes me how soon these songs all seem so familiar to me, even after just a couple of hearings I couldn't get most of the songs out of my head again, and yet there still is so much to discover). - - Susan McKeown - Bushes & briars (see above...) - - Susan McKeown and Lindsey Horner - Through the bitter frost and snow - - Jonatha Brooke - 10c Wings - - Heather Nova - The first recording (4 track ep) - - Heather Nova - Siren - - Heather Nova - London rain (5 track ep, featuring 3 non-album songs and an acoustic version of London rain) (Now my Heather Nova collection is more or less 'complete' again) Now I'll have to start saving money for our holiday in England, in two weeks. :-) I'll try to write some reviews for some of these albums in the near future, after I've listened to them some more. Recently I've made another sampler for a very good friend of mine with 90 minutes of Happy-ness. He was interested to finally hear something of Happy because I keep talking about her :-), and since he is more into uncomplicated, slightly upbeat pop music, I chose the following songs to introduce him to my favourite singer: Side A: 1. Feed the fire 2. The wretches gone awry 3. Ode 4. I say 5. Save our souls (RhodeSongs version) 6. Omar 7. I am a legend 8. Runners 9. Phobos 10. Lay me down Side B: 1. Mercy Street 2. Collective heart 3. Would that I could 4. Words weren't made for cowards 5. Oh the drears 6. Tragic 7. Play the game 8. Ra is a busy god 9. Roy Haven't heard his reaction yet. :) And right now I'm working on a "Ecto-Celtic" sampler tape which is to include Happy, Sinead Lohan, Susan McKeown, The Story and Deanta, for another friend who I met through the Loreena McKennitt mailing list, and who's now discovering singer/songwriters like Dar Williams. For Happy's part I chose the first 6 songs as on the other sampler, and "Serenading Genius", and I filled that side of the tape with Sinead Lohan's "Bee in the bottle", "If I go" and "Who do you think I am" of her first album, and part of Deanta's "Cold grey fairyland". Don't know what will be on the other side yet (Susan McKeown and the Story, and probably some more Deanta). Suggestions are welcome! Oh, and I've found the answer to one of my own questions: the Noa cd "Both sides of the sea" does include Hebrew tracks from the second Achinoam Nini & Gil Dor album and from her 1997/98 Achinoam Nini album, and the booklet has English translations for all these Hebrew songs. No new tracks or different versions. That's all for now. :-) Best wishes, Marion n.p. The Story - Grace in gravity / The angel in the house (trying to decide which 4 or 5 tracks to include) n.r. Gail Tsukiyama - The Samourai's Garden - ---------------------- Marion Kippers Marion.Kippers@wkap.nl ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1998 09:31:05 -0400 (EDT) From: queen of carrot flowers Subject: the henrys I was way ecstatic when woj's post about M2OH playing with the Henrys came through my inbox (which, given his usual round of annoyed posts on precious-things, is no mean feat). Of course, though, this show has to take place on the same night as the Bob Mould show at IRving Plaza that I have tickets to. Grrrr. - --C - ---- Chelsea, the mod pixie home: away: tugboat@channel1.com odyshape@hotmail.com "I started out as a missionary, but I couldn't find a religion which didn't promise things to some people at the exclsion of others. The personal voyage into that kind of light shouldn't be denied to anybody." -- Patti Smith ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1998 10:15:22 EDT From: DaveRaver@aol.com Subject: Museum of Radio & Television? Are we sure that Happy Rhodes is performing at the Museum of Radio & Television in NYC? That seems like an unlikely venue for a concert. I didn't even know they had a stage! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1998 15:27:05 -0700 From: "Hummel e-mailer" Subject: Elizabeth Hummel Newsletter ** Please note: Elizabeth's been on the road since early August, so I'm forwarding her e-mail newsletter to the list for her. Following are the 2 installments she's sent me since she left. Enjoy! -- Jordan Note she has a couple San Diego gigs coming up: World Famous Java Joe's Saturday, September 12, 9:00 pm $7 The Grove at UCSD Noon, September 30th. ================================================= Rusings from the Road Elizabeth Hummel Newsletter August 13, 1998 I'm on the road. San Diego is a wonderful place to live and a wonderful place to leave. I'm doing a rather odd little tour, coast dotting. Right now I'm in Sonoma County staying with friends in a very beautiful place (trees, pond, gardens, green!) I'm playing a living room show on Friday in San Francisco, then another show in a barn back in Sonoma. I'm really into playing in spaces which are out of the ordinary. Like I'd really like to play inside that spaceship building in Hillcrest, or on a boat, or in a gigantic and posh bathroom. After that I'm doing some recording in LA, then I'm going to British Columbia to be part of the Songbird Project and do some living room shows up there. I'll be in British Columbia between September 3rd and the 9th, with shows on the 4th and 5th. (I'll get you the information as soon as I have it.) If there's anyone in B.C. who would like to host a living room show on Saltspring, Gabriola, or Vancouver island, let me know by e-mailing .......I'll be sending Road Ruses along the way. In Sonoma County I am at Adam's house, alone. It is the house of an artist. I wonder how he chose the paintings to be on the walls. Most are his own. In this room, the kitchen and work area, there is a foggy seascape and a tiney landscape. On the table are tubes of paint and pallets and some cards advertising my barn show at La Tierra, a bottle of red wine, a cool leather bound book with a silver celtic looking button closing it with a piece of leather. One extravagent succulent and a spiney cactus of some sort. On the window sills are more cacti, and a hand thrown tall grey pot filled with dried poppies. One of his paint speckled hats, the one I borrowed today to keep the sun off my face, is hanging on a stick. I love to be in the midst of the things of people I love, because everything there reminds me of them. Left San Diego 2 days ago, after moving all my things into storage. A hot grueling drive from LA and bad diner food (no air conditioning) is behind me and ahead are dips in the pond, wonderful people to meet, shows to play. More Rusings from the Road Elizabeth Hummel Newsletter September 2, 1998 There's a space we call home, but it's confusing what this space is, exactly. Lately, my home has been wherever I am, which is both exhilirating and unnerving. Most experiences have at least two sides to them, usually more...is home a place, or is it a place of mind, a memory...or is it the people we love. While in L.A., I've been working on this song called "My Sister's Quilt," kind of about this whole subject. By the time I come to San Diego (September 12, Java Joe's, 9pm) I hope to sing it to you. Here are the lyrics: My Sister's Quilt I'm sitting here on my sister's quilt with the moon and the stars and the apples & pears & fertility symbols and cowboy boots and in a minute, I'll wrap it around me and pretend We're smelling donuts in her kitchen again I know a secret gypsy recipe for a facial masque smooths out the rough spots makes you glow in the dark which is good, cuz you never know what you'll have to face when you must carry your home always in your heart My grandmother, Emma, she had a pretty good life But some part of her wanted to leave Garrett County be a free woman work at a Howard Johnson's even There's a price for everything and we must pay I long for home, but I know she'd be glad I'm living my dreams So...while here in L.A., I recorded a song for the Songbird Project, a new and very cool organization out of Vancouver B.C. which is dedicated to protecting songbirds in the city. It's a year long event with all kinds of artists and environmentalists involved, so I'm happy to be part of it--I'm flying to Vancouver tomorro to sing the song (yeah! I love Canada...) at their opening 2 day forum. Then I have a "Living Room Show" in a Vancouver art gallery on Sunday the 5th, and another show on Gabriola Island. I've been having a blast on the road--my last show in the barn was packed, with an odd mixture of kids, groovy urban people, and groovy country people. It was defninately some kind of magic out there in Sonoma County. Another thing to check out is an article written about me on the MTV website. It should be up within the next week, written by Mary Z. The website is www.mtv.com. I'm working, slowly because I've been on the road, on my website, which is www.elizine.com. Check it out...! So I have two, maybe three shows in San Diego this month.: World Famous Java Joe's Saturday, September 12, 9:00 pm $7 The Grove at UCSD Noon, September 30th. I look forward to seeing you at the shows...keep flying! Love, Elizabeth ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 07 Sep 1998 19:26:38 -0400 From: meredith Subject: ecto pages updated Hi! I've updated the ecto news page -- it now has the tour dates we know about so far, as well as a few other miscellaneous things that have come up lately. Also, by popular demand I've added a link to the ecto archives to the ecto main page: . I also fixed the link to Samson so it goes directly to their home page, bypassing that stupid animated logo thingie. There's still a lot to be done, though ... if anyone wants to help, I'm in full delegation mode. :) Drop me a line! +==========================================================================+ | Meredith Tarr meth@smoe.org | | New Haven, CT USA http://www.smoe.org/~meth | +==========================================================================+ | "things are more beautiful when they're obscure" -- veda hille | | *** TRAJECTORY, the Veda Hille mailing list: *** | | *** http://www.smoe.org/meth/trajectory.html *** | +==========================================================================+ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1998 21:51:13 EDT From: Riphug@aol.com Subject: Fwd: Elizabeth Hummel Newsletter This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - --part0_905219473_boundary Content-ID: <0_905219473@inet_out.mail.aol.com.1> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII - --part0_905219473_boundary Content-ID: <0_905219473@inet_out.mail.san.rr.com.2> Content-type: message/rfc822 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-disposition: inline Return-Path: Received: from rly-za04.mx.aol.com (rly-za04.mail.aol.com [172.31.36.100]) by air-za03.mail.aol.com (v49.1) with SMTP; Mon, 07 Sep 1998 18:54:15 -0400 Received: from mermaid.shore.net (mermaid.shore.net [207.244.124.6]) by rly-za04.mx.aol.com (8.8.8/8.8.5/AOL-4.0.0) with SMTP id SAA26545; Mon, 7 Sep 1998 18:54:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smoe.org [204.167.97.154] by mermaid.shore.net with esmtp (Exim) id 0zGAAX-00079W-00; Mon, 7 Sep 1998 18:53:58 -0400 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/listq-jane) with SMTP id SAA07082; Mon, 7 Sep 1998 18:52:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: by smoe.org (bulk_mailer v1.10); Mon, 7 Sep 1998 18:52:25 -0400 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/listq-jane) id SAA07061 for ecto-outgoing; Mon, 7 Sep 1998 18:51:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from chmls05.mediaone.net (ne.mediaone.net [24.128.1.70]) by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/daemon-mode-relay2) with ESMTP id SAA07057 for ; Mon, 7 Sep 1998 18:51:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from happy.smoe.org (jeffww.ne.mediaone.net [24.128.146.133]) by chmls05.mediaone.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id SAA26380 for ; Mon, 7 Sep 1998 18:51:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from woj@localhost) by happy.smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/happy) id SAA08483 for ecto@smoe.org; Mon, 7 Sep 1998 18:51:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail-atm.san.rr.com (san.rr.com [204.210.0.1]) by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/daemon-mode-relay2) with ESMTP id SAA06854 for ; Mon, 7 Sep 1998 18:36:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gandalf.san.rr.com (dt063nc9.san.rr.com [204.210.38.201]) by mail-atm.san.rr.com (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA26915; Mon, 7 Sep 1998 15:24:09 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <000401bddaae$b036fbc0$c926d2cc@gandalf.san.rr.com> To: From: "Hummel e-mailer" Subject: Elizabeth Hummel Newsletter Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1998 15:27:05 -0700 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by smoe.org id SAA06855 Sender: owner-ecto@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable ** Please note: Elizabeth's been on the road since early August, so I'm forwarding her e-mail newsletter to the list for her. Following are the 2 installments she's sent me since she left. Enjoy! -- Jordan Note she has a couple San Diego gigs coming up: World Famous Java Joe's Saturday, September 12, 9:00 pm $7 The Grove at UCSD Noon, September 30th. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D Rusings from the Road Elizabeth Hummel Newsletter August 13, 1998 I'm on the road. San Diego is a wonderful place to live and a wonderful place to leave. I'm doing a rather odd little tour, coast dotting. Right now I'm in Sonoma County staying with friends in a very beautiful place (trees, pond, gardens, green!) I'm playing a living room show on Friday in San Francisco, then another show in a barn back in Sonoma. I'm really into playing in spaces which are out of the ordinary. Like I'd really like to play inside that spaceship building in Hillcrest, or on a boat, or in a gigantic and posh bathroom. After that I'm doing some recording in LA, then I'm going to British Columbia to be part of the Songbird Project and do some living room shows up there. I'll be in British Columbia between September 3rd and the 9th, with shows on the 4th and 5th. (I'll get you the information as soon as I have it.) If there's anyone in B.C. who would like to host a living room show on Saltspring, Gabriola, or Vancouver island, let me know by e-mailing .......I'll be sending Road Ruses along the way. In Sonoma County I am at Adam's house, alone. It is the house of an artist. I wonder how he chose the paintings to be on the walls. Most are his own. In this room, the kitchen and work area, there is a foggy seascape and a tiney landscape. On the table are tubes of paint and pallets and some cards advertising my barn show at La Tierra, a bottle of red wine, a cool leather bound book with a silver celtic looking button closing it with a piece of leather. One extravagent succulent and a spiney cactus of some sort. On the window sills are more cacti, and a hand thrown tall grey pot filled with dried poppies. One of his paint speckled hats, the one I borrowed today to keep the sun off my face, is hanging on a stick. I love to be in the midst of the things of people I love, because everything there reminds me of them. Left San Diego 2 days ago, after moving all my things into storage. A hot grueling drive from LA and bad diner food (no air conditioning) is behind me and ahead are dips in the pond, wonderful people to meet, shows to play. More Rusings from the Road Elizabeth Hummel Newsletter September 2, 1998 There's a space we call home, but it's confusing what this space is, exactly. Lately, my home has been wherever I am, which is both exhilirating and unnerving. Most experiences have at least two sides to them, usually more...is home a place, or is it a place of mind, a memory...or is it the people we love. While in L.A., I've been working on this song called "My Sister's Quilt," kind of about this whole subject. By the time I come to San Diego (September 12, Java Joe's, 9pm) I hope to sing it to you. Here are the lyrics: My Sister's Quilt I'm sitting here on my sister's quilt with the moon and the stars and the apples & pears & fertility symbols and cowboy boots and in a minute, I'll wrap it around me and pretend We're smelling donuts in her kitchen again I know a secret gypsy recipe for a facial masque smooths out the rough spots makes you glow in the dark which is good, cuz you never know what you'll have to face when you must carry your home always in your heart My grandmother, Emma, she had a pretty good life But some part of her wanted to leave Garrett County be a free woman work at a Howard Johnson's even There's a price for everything and we must pay I long for home, but I know she'd be glad I'm living my dreams So...while here in L.A., I recorded a song for the Songbird Project, a new and very cool organization out of Vancouver B.C. which is dedicated to protecting songbirds in the city. It's a year long event with all kinds of artists and environmentalists involved, so I'm happy to be part of it--I'm flying to Vancouver tomorro to sing the song (yeah! I love Canada...) at their opening 2 day forum. Then I have a "Living Room Show" in a Vancouver art gallery on Sunday the 5th, and another show on Gabriola Island. I've been having a blast on the road--my last show in the barn was packed, with an odd mixture of kids, groovy urban people, and groovy country people. It was defninately some kind of magic out there in Sonoma County. Another thing to check out is an article written about me on the MTV website. It should be up within the next week, written by Mary Z. The website is www.mtv.com. I'm working, slowly because I've been on the road, on my website, which is www.elizine.com. Check it out...! So I have two, maybe three shows in San Diego this month.: World Famous Java Joe's Saturday, September 12, 9:00 pm $7 The Grove at UCSD Noon, September 30th. I look forward to seeing you at the shows...keep flying! Love, Elizabeth - --part0_905219473_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 07 Sep 1998 22:19:57 -0400 From: meredith Subject: rachael sage and others Hi! Yesterday evening The Nields performed a free show at New York's South Street Seaport, an entertainment complex right next to the Brooklyn Bridge. They have a stage set up on one of the piers, and all summer they have bands in to perform. It was a beautiful night, and the Nields did a great 90-minute set consisting of material from their forthcoming album _Play_ as well as standards from _Gotta Get Over Greta_ and _Mousse_. They even dusted off their incredible cover of Sinead O'Connor's "Black Boys On Mopeds", which was gorgeous as always. There was a small crowd there just to see them, then lots of people gathered around the outskirts to check out what was going on. Some left, but many stayed. For some reason the Nields couldn't sell merchandise there, which was a pity since I'm sure they would've sold a lot of CDs, but they signed up a lot of people on the mailing list and handed out lots of copies of the new newsletter, hot off the presses. I forgot to grab one - oh well, I'm sure mine will come in the mail soon enough. The highlight of the show was the new and improved version of "Superhero Soup", in which Dave Chalfant treated us to some whalesong coaxed out of his bass, and then the entire band segued into The Who's "Baba O'Riley" for a verse and a chorus, after which they did the "1-2-3-4, 1-2-3 Tequila!" part and went back into the song. The band was even cracking themselves up by the end of it. :) It was great. I was able to obtain a promo copy of the new album _Play_, which will be released on the 29th. I've only listened to it once and I wasn't really paying attention at the time, so I'll refrain from comment for now. Before that we hit St. Mark's Sounds with Valerie Nozick, who was up here visiting again. There wasn't a lot there, but we scored a few things: Bic Runga, Wendy Bucklew, Eva Trout, Ebba Forsberg, and an 88-cent copy of Jump, Little Children's CD (I figured for that price I can afford to give them a second chance -- too many people have been telling me I'm just missing something). Haven't had a chance to listen to much of it all yet. I did like what I heard of Eva Trout, though. The bits of Bic Runga we listened to in Valerie's car did nothing for me, but I'm not writing her off yet. What I do want to write about, though, is a CD called _Smashing The Serene_ by Rachael Sage. Has anyone here heard of her? Hillary Jackson loaned me her copy of the CD a couple weeks ago and said she was pretty sure I'd like it, and she was right. :) I know next to nothing about Sage save for what Hillary's told me: that she used to play at Cafe Sin-e a lot, and she used to be a professional ballet dancer. That last is obvious by looking at and listening to the disc: there are red ballet shoes as part of the collage on the back of the disc, and the songs themselves contain several allusions to dance (most notably the song "Down My Spine", which begins with the words, "All she ever wanted in this whole world /was to dance her bones away". Musically, the influences Sage credits in her liner notes are obvious (Ani DiFranco, Indigo Girls, Elvis Costello, Marc Cohn, Carole King) but she adds a fresh twist to the combination so the result is some really neat stuff. Her voice is in the Juliana Hatfield vein -- woj's comparison to Wendy MaHarry is also quite apt. There is some interesting instrumentation on the album, too. Sage herself plays keyboards, and she's accompanied in turns by accordian, organ, melodica, violin, acoustic & electric guitars, fretless bass, and the requisite drums & percussion. Mike Visceglia (of all sorts of NYC fame, but probably most notably of Suzanne Vega fame) and Chris Cunningham (he's everywhere!) also make guest appearances. Just when you think a song is going to head down the path of convention, something invariably crops up to make you sit up and take notice, either musically or (especially) lyrically. The Ani DiFranco influence is most obvious in her lyrics. So they said it was the year o' the woman I believe it was the year of sex Maybe this'll be the year o' the human Maybe that would be a bit complex... Or: I only wanna eat candy and I hate the word nutrition Sounds like neutral that's like nothing, that's like neither here nor there And my body speaks to glaciers as far away as I can envision And only ice can crack the ice or maybe diamonds if you can spare 'em I really think lots of ectophiles will be seriously into this record. For more info on Rachael Sage, check out her web page: . There are some sound samples there, as well as at . The CD is also available for sale there, and I'm going to order mine right now so I can give Hillary her disc back. :) There are also live dates listed - -- it'll be tough for me to make it on a weeknight, but I'm going to try to hit at least one of the NYC dates in the next week: this Thursday the 10th at the Elbow Room on Bleecker St; or next Tuesday at The Living Room. She's also going to be opening for Ani DiFranco from 9/25 - 9/28, in Rochester, Cleveland, Louisville, and Nashville. Check her out and let us all know what you think! (I'm not affiliated with Rachael Sage, yadda yadda yadda ...) +==========================================================================+ | Meredith Tarr meth@smoe.org | | New Haven, CT USA http://www.smoe.org/~meth | +==========================================================================+ | "things are more beautiful when they're obscure" -- veda hille | | *** TRAJECTORY, the Veda Hille mailing list: *** | | *** http://www.smoe.org/meth/trajectory.html *** | +==========================================================================+ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 07 Sep 1998 22:59:04 -0400 From: "Jeffrey C. Burka" Subject: Re: rachael sage and others meredith sez: [rachael sage] > Check her out and let us all know what you think! Thanks for the pointer; based on the real audio, I'll definitely order one, if not both of her albums. tasty. BUT, you left out the best part of the web page: "...her voice is strong and lilting at the same time. Wafting one softly through incredible memories and filling you with a strong sense of well-being. Reminiscent of Kate Bush in her prime, this young girl is on her way..." -- Richard A. Siegel, Online TV Yup, that's right folks, ANOTHER KATE BUSH!!! (y'know, of the millions of women that idiot critics with no concept of the incredible wealth of amazing music by women out there have insisted on saying sound like KaTe, the only one that has been even remotely accurate is Happy...and that's only the upper register. I'd like to hear KaTe attempt, oh, say, those low-register lines in "Winter"...and then I'd like to hear those cigarette-cracked vocal cords of hers soar the way Happy's can) (hmm. what an utterly amazing and lucky thing it was for us that Happy quit smoking back when. Thanks, Happy!!!) jeff np: realaudio samples of Rachael Sage. Wasn't that obvious? - -- |Jeffrey C. Burka | moving to jburka@cqi.com -- come say hi | |http://www.cqi.com/~jburka | at the new digs...now up and running! | ------------------------------ End of ecto-digest V4 #310 **************************