From: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org (ecto-digest) To: ecto-digest@smoe.org Subject: ecto-digest V4 #296 Reply-To: ecto@smoe.org Sender: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Friday, August 28 1998 Volume 04 : Number 296 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: MWABT (and Btc) ["C. K. Coney" ] wendy carlos news from east side digital [pauly on the shore ] MWABT [Laura Clifford ] Re: MWABT ["jeffrey c. burka" ] Re: MWABT [Chris Sampson ] Re: MWABT [Laura Clifford ] Re: MWABT ["jeffrey c. burka" ] Re: MWABT [Stuart Myerburg ] Re: a wee bit more milla info and his name is alive ["C. K. Coney" ] Inquiry [deanorez@juno.com] Two new music mailing lists: Emm Gryner; Music-Issues [00jnweiser@bsuvc.b] Re: Inquiry [Old Spice ] Re: 2 mellons [pauly on the shore ] Re: Inquiry [Neile Graham ] Re: Over & Over & Other. . . [Ted & Debbie ] I really love this job [Old Spice ] [Fwd: An unpleasant surprise] [Philip David Morgan ] veda hille pictures [meredith ] Happy Musings [jjh969@juno.com] One of those things ["Bill" ] the chariot [pauly on the shore ] Re: oy, to be e.mortal [pauly on the shore ] Re: oy, to be e.mortal [Neile Graham ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 10:54:46 -0700 From: "C. K. Coney" Subject: Re: MWABT (and Btc) Jeffrey C. Burka wrote: > Listen again, listen again! I've *been* listening...should I change my frame of mind, my frame of reference, just what am I doing wrong when I listen to "Roy"? I'm being serious here...I want to try to hear what you hear. Please clue me in on specific element(s) that attract you so much. I do want to like this song, 'cause I think the rest of the album kicks major ass! (Excuse my crassness!) > When I first heard the sample that Samson posted a month+ ago, I actually > *worried*, very briefly, about what I would think of the new album. Why, specifically? Not meaning to dissect the song, but you obviously didn't have a good first impression. Now you like (love?) the song...I'm curious about how your listening evolved. > On first listen, I found "Roy" to be the least interesting song on the > album, and I suppose it stayed as such for my first several times > through...'til one day when I caught myself singing the chorus. Yeah, but didn't Vickie say that the song goes through her head, like a virus? Me, I admit it's gone through my addled brain as well, but so has every song on that cd, 'cause I play it daily. And I don't listen to radio...only my satellite dish stations. So...I don't have any other music playing enuf these days to get engorged in my head & replayed there. > Also note that the song has lyrics that *aren't* printed -- the heavily > distorted stuff after the call-and-response voice and violin section, before > the violin solo. "I'm afraid to close my eyes." Wow. I'll listen for that element. > *My* only quibble with the song is the grammatical error --"four short > years does not a life time make." Could you 'splain what ya mean? > Am I the only one who's reminded of the end of "Walk Straight Down the Middle" > by Happys "bird call" during the call-and-response section? Hmmm...interesting. I don't get it myself. > > Frankly I think it was a mistake to make Roy > > the single...who is the intended audience for this song? You can't dance to > > it...too many tempo changes that leave folks standing, awkward, on the dance > > floor. > > I, too, wonder who the intended audience is, though I think that "Roy" > was a good choice in that it *does* have a _killer_ hook. And it's very "poppy", and oh, forgive me, but I'm going to say it, it has "commercial potential". > > And after all, the music business *is* a > > business, and if an artist doesnt sell "X" amount of units, they may not get > > that contract renewed (or bettered.) > > Perhaps, but Samson *did* sign a _five_ record deal with Happy. ;-) Yes, tis a comforting thought...and a nice commitment they made to our gal, eh?! > (which is not to say they couldn't break it if they really wanted to; look > at so many other artists who've gotten screwed by the squid) Squid? > > All are much more danceable than Roy. > > (Many hit songs are broken by d.j.'s and at dance clubs these days.) > > I have trouble imagining that *anyone* wants to try to make Happy a > dance club diva. Hey, what's wrong with dancing? It's great exercise! And furthermore, club hits have a way of bringing an artist to prominence...which translates into selling units. I wasn't suggesting Happy become a dance club diva...it's kinda funny to imagine, however. ;-) But...I think she successfully crosses into several genres on the new cd, and all those genres are places to market her newest work. "Leaving no stone unturned" > I'll claim "Tragic" because I just can't get "I see you because you are > tragic / and I need you for the same" out of my head. I like that song too...but can you 'splain to me why it clips suddenly at the end? There are so many places to fade gracefully/naturally out, yet the song kinda drags at the end. I'd like it so much better if it was about 8 seconds shorter, and not clipped. (Or is that some kind of audio castration, or circumcision, metaphor? Maybe something's happening conceptually that I just don't "get".) > Though > "Looking Over Cliffs", with "Anywhere you go / here or beyond / > nothing can stop me from finding what dream you're on" (er, did > I get that right?) is a *real* close contender. That verse just > flips me out, both lyrically and in its delivery. Yes! That works so well on both levels. I don't think I've ever heard such raspy, growly passion in Happy's voice before. Anyone else? > Honestly, I'm not all that crazy about "Glory" or "Collective Heart." "Collective Heart" isn't one of my faves either, melodically...but the lyrics are very "feel good" and empowering, though, and that's sure a good thing. > The songs that work best for me on BtC are "Just Like Tivoli", first > and foremost, and then probably "Down, Down" and "You Never Told Me." "You Never Told Me" is another one of my faves from BtC...it expresses something very important and can be used effectively after an argument with your spouse! (Don't ask!) :-) > Y'know, all this talk about MWABT means I should probably pull it out next. Yeah, play it after Klezmatics! (Oh, I just love that title "Jews with Horns"! :-) > jeff > np: _Jews With Horns_ / Klezmatics > > -- > |Jeffrey C. Burka | moving to jburka@cqi.com -- come say hi | > |http://www.cqi.com/~jburka | at the new digs...now up and running! | ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 11:16:26 -0400 From: pauly on the shore Subject: wendy carlos news from east side digital hey ectophiles, as usual, i'm behind, so i hope this isn't old news (tm). i recall there are some wendy carlos fans here and there amongst us, so the following clipping should be good tidings! woj (and tam the big-goofy-orange-cat) ps. affiliated label northside is also preparing a slew of american releases by all your (well, mine, anyways) favorite scanadinavian artists: chateau neuf (norway's big folk band), triakel (members of hoven droven fronted by garmana's emma hardelin), sari and mari kaasinen (värttinä), jpp (the great finnish fiddlers) and sanna kurki-suonio (hedningarna). yay! np. wpkn ><<>> > >East Side Digital (ESD) is proud to announce that it has entered into an >agreement with Grammy-winning composer and electronic musician Wendy Carlos >for the release of new material as well as her back catalog. > >Carlos is best known for her landmark recording SWITCHED-ON BACH, >originally released on Columbia Masterworks in 1968, and the first >classical album to go platinum (sales of 1,000,000 units). > >ESD will begin its issues in October with a new recording by Carlos, called >TALES OF HEAVEN & HELL. In November the first-ever CD issues of the >complete CLOCKWORK ORANGE score and SONIC SEASONINGS will appear. And in >the first quarter of 1999 ESD plans to release SWITCHED-ON BOX, which will >contain all of Carlos's original electronic realizations of Baroque >compositions. > >Visit http://www.wendycarlos.com now for the complete story, and look for >more details next month. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 08:49:39 -0700 From: "Bill" Subject: Re: wendy carlos news from east side digital >>ESD will begin its issues in October with a new recording by Carlos, called >>TALES OF HEAVEN & HELL. In November the first-ever CD issues of the >>complete CLOCKWORK ORANGE score and SONIC SEASONINGS will appear. And in >>the first quarter of 1999 ESD plans to release SWITCHED-ON BOX, which will >>contain all of Carlos's original electronic realizations of Baroque >>compositions. Yay!!! This is great news. - - B. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 12:33:24 -0400 From: Laura Clifford Subject: MWABT MWABT's slowly growing on me as well, with "Tragic" being the (immediate) standout. I'm still hung up on "Warpaint" as her penultimate, but MWABT's probably my favorite since. Just curious - does anyone know how sales of the album are going? After supporing Happy since the days of the hand-made tapes, I'd be thrilled to see her do well commercially. Laura ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 12:13:05 -0400 (EDT) From: "jeffrey c. burka" Subject: Re: MWABT On Thu, 27 Aug 1998, Laura Clifford wrote: > MWABT's slowly growing on me as well, with "Tragic" being the > (immediate) standout. I'm still hung up on "Warpaint" as her > penultimate Err...then what's her best? jeff np: actually, nothing, as I'm about to leave for the bank, but earlier I listened to Joe Jackson's _Heaven & Hell_ (was that mentioned here last year and I just missed it, or what?) and then I was about to start "Ra..." on MWABT, but I guess I'll get back to that later. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 14:19:02 -0400 From: Chris Sampson Subject: Re: MWABT jeffrey c. burka wrote: > > On Thu, 27 Aug 1998, Laura Clifford wrote: > > > MWABT's slowly growing on me as well, with "Tragic" being the > > (immediate) standout. I'm still hung up on "Warpaint" as her > > penultimate > > Err...then what's her best? Actually, that's not really what penultimate means, is it? According to my Webster's Ninth New Collegiate, while 'ultimate' can mean 'utmost', *pen*ultimate *only* means 'the next to the last in a series'... even then, "Building The Colossus" would be her 'most recent but one', rather than her 'penultimate' (since we have, hopefully, not reached the end of a series) Chris Semantics Sampson np: Would you believe MWABT? First-ish impression= not bad at all... Though, like Laura(?), "Warpaint" is my favorite. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 14:22:26 -0400 From: Laura Clifford Subject: Re: MWABT Yes, clearly I misused the word 'penultimate.' Let's just say I still love "Warpaint" the most. So, doesn't anyone know how sales of this are going? I'd be curious to see if the numbers show the album's being purchased outside of the ecto community - one would hope that Tower review would have given it a good push.... Laura At 02:19 PM 08/27/1998 -0400, Chris Sampson wrote: >jeffrey c. burka wrote: >> >> On Thu, 27 Aug 1998, Laura Clifford wrote: >> >> > MWABT's slowly growing on me as well, with "Tragic" being the >> > (immediate) standout. I'm still hung up on "Warpaint" as her >> > penultimate >> >> Err...then what's her best? > > Actually, that's not really what penultimate means, is it? > > According to my Webster's Ninth New Collegiate, while 'ultimate' can >mean 'utmost', *pen*ultimate *only* means 'the next to the last in a >series'... even then, "Building The Colossus" would be her 'most recent >but one', rather than her 'penultimate' (since we have, hopefully, not >reached the end of a series) > > Chris Semantics Sampson > >np: Would you believe MWABT? > > First-ish impression= not bad at all... > Though, like Laura(?), "Warpaint" is my favorite. > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 15:02:22 -0400 (EDT) From: "jeffrey c. burka" Subject: Re: MWABT On Thu, 27 Aug 1998, Chris Sampson wrote: > Actually, that's not really what penultimate means, is it? In this context, it does...the series in question is "My favorite Happy Rhodes albums from least to most favorite." > series'... even then, "Building The Colossus" would be her 'most recent > but one', rather than her 'penultimate' (since we have, hopefully, not > reached the end of a series) Er, what about _The Keep_? jeff (sorry to be dragging Laura's post through the mud. he, too, wonders about the sales of MWABT) np: yup, strangely enough, me too ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 15:42:16 -0400 (EDT) From: Stuart Myerburg Subject: Re: MWABT On Thu, 27 Aug 1998, jeffrey c. burka wrote: > np: actually, nothing, as I'm about to leave for the bank, but earlier > I listened to Joe Jackson's _Heaven & Hell_ (was that mentioned here > last year and I just missed it, or what?) How bizarre. I was just listening to that as well. I don't remember if anyone mentioned it last year, but I will pipe in now and say it is excellent. I saw the whole thing performed on _Sessions at W. 54th_ last year and was immediately hooked. For those of you who aren't familiar with it, it's a musical exploration of the Seven Deadly Sins. Joe Jackson performs it with guest vocals from Suzanne Vega, Joy Askew, Dawn Upshaw, Brad Roberts (from Crash Test Dummies), and Jane Siberry. The music leans toward classical, but it's really sort of a rock-classical hybrid. Sometimes the lyrics can be less than inspired, but the music and the choice of guest vocalists is quite impressive. It's definitely one to check out. Stuart np: The Sky is Too High - Graham Coxon _________________________________________________________ Stuart Myerburg Information Services, Rollins School of Public Health http://userwww.service.emory.edu/~stuart _________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 15:43:58 -0700 From: "C. K. Coney" Subject: Re: a wee bit more milla info and his name is alive irvin lin wrote: > and also i was wondering, all you HIS NAME IS ALIVE fans, do you have > information about the new album (which is available as an import)? is > it in the same vein as STARS ON ESP or is it more like his earlier > experimental stuff. also will it be available states-side? anyone > anyone? > I'm an HNIA fan! The new lp is Fort Lake, and it is import only right now. U.S. release is imminent, but sorry, I forget the date right now. Fort Lake is quite good, but the new singer Loveeta is more of a soul stylist/r & b singer (she was heard a bit on ESP)...Karin is also on it but more of a supporting role. I'd say folks are 50-50 on it. It's still got that trademark Warn stamp on it...a bit zany, not like anything else on the planet. I do like it, but my faves are the older stuff (although ESP is the most fun by far!) You may want to sub to the Livonia mailing list at aol.com. Also, are you hip to Trey Many's band, Velour 100? I really like them...they feature 3 female lead singers incl. Karin, all excellent. "Of Color Bright", their latest, is especially wonderful. For info you may want to email Trey at Velour100@aol.com...and get on email list. They're touring right now too, and you can get the schedule from Trey. Have fun! Carol ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 16:03:58 -0400 (EDT) From: athol-brose Subject: Re: a wee bit more milla info and his name is alive On Thu, 27 Aug 1998, C. K. Coney wrote: > I'm an HNIA fan! The new lp is Fort Lake, and it is import only right now. U.S. release is imminent, but sorry, I forget the date right now. > Fort Lake is quite good, but the new singer Loveeta is more of a soul stylist/r & b singer (she was heard a bit on ESP)...Karin is also on it > but more of a supporting role. I'd say folks are 50-50 on it. It's still got that trademark Warn stamp on it...a bit zany, not like anything > else on the planet. I do like it, but my faves are the older stuff (although ESP is the most fun by far!) ...hmm. Is Fort Lake like the "Nice Day" EP? I've been a HNIA fan for quite some time, but for whatever reason I just don't like "Nice Day" (and this is after spending quite some time tracking down a copy). I did like "Stars on ESP" quite a bit. Any insight would be appreciated. r. n. dominick -- cinnamon@one.net If a production of horror outranciere and weakly forces dilates you the spleen of time to others, The Toxic Avenger is not without charm, I suppose. (Philippe St-Germain via babelfish) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 16:16:06 -0400 (EDT) From: Stuart Myerburg Subject: Re: a wee bit more milla info and his name is alive On Thu, 27 Aug 1998, athol-brose wrote: > ...hmm. Is Fort Lake like the "Nice Day" EP? I've been a HNIA fan for > quite some time, but for whatever reason I just don't like "Nice Day" > (and this is after spending quite some time tracking down a copy). I did > like "Stars on ESP" quite a bit. I hated the _Nice Day_ EP and was only lukewarm about _Stars on ESP_. I like everything before _Stars_, though, even the messy _King of Sweet_. So, I'd also like to know how the new one compares to _Nice Day_. If it hadn't been for the last 2 HNIA releases being so disappointing, I would have run out to get _Fort Lake_ as an import. Now, I'm hesitant to get it even when it's released in the US. Stuart still playing: The Sky is Too High - Graham Coxon _________________________________________________________ Stuart Myerburg Information Services, Rollins School of Public Health http://userwww.service.emory.edu/~stuart _________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 14:53:41 -0500 From: "Xenu's Sister" Subject: Re: New Ecto Subscriber At 10:57 PM 8/25/98 -0700, Sami T. wrote: >Hi, > >I've been a long-time subscriber to the Kate Bush mailing list and Happy >Rhodes gets mentioned a lot over there. I just bought Happy's new CD >which is only the second (so far) in my collection in addition to >Rhodesongs. I can't say that she's my *favorite* or anything, but I am >so mesmerized by her and find an amazing quality in her music rarely >found elsewhere, so I was prompted (finally) to subscribe to Ecto and see >what goes on around here. HI Sami, welcome to Ecto! >Being a "newbie", I have a couple of questions and I hope no one flames >me for asking old questions. Never be afraid to ask questions. No one will ever flame you. It might take a while, but generally, if someone knows the answer, questions usually get answered. Usually. Sometimes topics fly so fast and furious that things do get lost in the cracks, so persistence pays off. >Question #1: When I *could* read the FAQ, I noticed it mentioned that >Happy's "sign" is the Holy Spirit. Can someone explain this to >me? Why is her sign the Holy Spirit? I'm curious. It's "Holy Ghost" which is quite a bit different than Holy Spirit :-). It's just a joke, one whose time has probably passed. Maybe we should have a contest something or other to re-name Happy's "Sign." Suggestions are welcome! It came from my old, jokey way of "ranking" my favorite female artists. Kate is God. Always and forever, amen! Jane is Jesus (Siberry, lest some folks out there not know) Happy is the Holy Ghost. Now, none of these are accurate to their counterparts, since of course Peter Gabriel is actually God in that he was the one who started me on this journey of discovering Kate and the rest. Jane is obviously not a messiah and she's not Jesus-like in any way. As far as the Holy Ghost goes, I just thought it was funny because of "Ecto" (a song about a ghost) and the fact that she's invisible to all except her fans. I haven't the faintest idea what the "actual" Holy Ghost is supposed to be, since I'm an atheist who slept through most of Sunday and Bible school. You know, it all sounds really lame now, and not a little embarrassing. :-) I think we should re-name Happy's sign. I'm against just changing it to plain old "Leo" on principle (I don't believe in astrology) but if we can't come up with anything else, that'll do. >Question #2: Does Happy *ever* do concerts on the West Coast? (Southern >Cali in particular?) Are any concert tours anticipated along >with the release of this latest album? She's never played live west of Detroit, yet. There is a tour in the works but no dates have been set. Believe me, when dates are announced you're going to hear a choir of voices. Here, in Gaffa, and other places. She's hoping to make the west coast but it'll have to depend on finances. She's paying for this tour herself (if I understand correctly) rather than the record company subsidizing it. She'll be selling T-shirts and I don't know what else to help pay for the tour. So the east coast folks will almost be responsible for Happy playing further west. We'll see how it goes. She *wants* to play the West, very much. Here's something she wrote to Ecto in response to a suggestion that her fans get together and sponsor a tour (I sent her the thread and asked for a response): - ------ While I appreciate the thoughtfulness on everyone's part, I would prefer to handle the financial responsibility of the tour myself. I know there are alot of people who would like to see me come out to the West Coast . I will make my best effort to accommodate that. You all do so much to support my creative endeavors. Sometimes you when you really can't afford to. I'm planning on selling merchandise at the shows to help supplement the tour. But I just want everyone to have a good time. I don't want to be a "cause". Let that be MY responsibility. If you want to have a piece of merchandise.....great. You've helped. If you don't want to spend alot of money........fine. You've helped just by showing up. You know, if I could guarantee that all of the seats were filled at my shows, none of this would be an issue anyway. I'm honored that you'd be willing to organize something on my behalf. You people are gold to me. Can't thank you enough. [Happy Rhodes] - ------------ >Thanks for putting up with me and any questions I may have asked that are >old hat around here. :-) No problem at all! Vickie (leaving in about 10 minutes to go to the train station. I'll have my walkman with me to make the 8 hour trip a bit more interesting. ) DIVX = GREED - Boycott Circuit City! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 15:53:19 -0700 From: deanorez@juno.com Subject: Inquiry Anybody know anything about the Swedish pop group Pinforest Crunch? On Wednesday (8/27), they played at the International Pop Overthrow festival here in Los Angeles and will be on KCRW's MBE on Friday. Their material is somewhat hard to find domestically. Gerard _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 17:58:28 -0500 (EST) From: 00jnweiser@bsuvc.bsu.edu Subject: Two new music mailing lists: Emm Gryner; Music-Issues Sorry for the crosspost! There are two new mailing lists I wanted to share with you all: Headline-Girl, a list devoted to the discussion and support of Emm Gryner and her music, and Music-Issues a list devoted to music-industry-related discussion and debate. To subscribe to Headline-Girl, please send a message to: majordomo@smoe.org with "subscribe headline-girl" or "subscribe headline-girl-digest" in the body of your message. To subscribe to music-issues, send a message to: majordomo@smoe.org with "subscribe music-issues" or "subscribe music-issues-digest" in the body of the message. The information/rules about the lists will be sent to you once you've subbed completely. (Also: Headline-Girl is not intended to replace the other Emm mailing list, Wisdom Bus.) Please spread the word! Thanks, jessica n. weiser - http://adam.nettfriends.com/Jess "wasn't looking to be picked up and left alone to fall" - beth orton ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 16:06:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Old Spice Subject: Re: Inquiry - ---deanorez@juno.com wrote: > > Anybody know anything about the Swedish pop group > Pinforest Crunch? On Wednesday (8/27), they played > at the International Pop Overthrow festival here in > Los Angeles and will be on KCRW's MBE on Friday. > Their material is somewhat hard to find domestically. > > Gerard Nevahoidavem. Sounds intriguing, though. What were they like? - --Charley _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 19:53:30 -0400 From: pauly on the shore Subject: Re: 2 mellons also sprach Mike Mendelson: >>mellon farmer > >Alright, I'll bite ;-)... is this a double entendre for mylene farmer? nope. any other guesses? (fegmaniax members need not apply.) >n.p. susan court (arrived in mail the other day! yay!) oh yeah. gotta order that sometime. woj n.p. tori amos -- park west, chicago (30 april 98) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 17:47:01 -0700 From: Neile Graham Subject: Re: Inquiry At 3:53 PM -0700 8/27/98, deanorez@juno.com wrote: >Anybody know anything about the Swedish pop group >Pinforest Crunch? On Wednesday (8/27), they played >at the International Pop Overthrow festival here in >Los Angeles and will be on KCRW's MBE on Friday. >Their material is somewhat hard to find domestically. Around the beginning of the year I got two of their releases from an online disc store from Sweden (which BTW had great service and also carries some hard-to-find Virginia Astley stuff). I'm not sure what prompted me to buy the discs. Someone recommended them somewhere strongly enough that I paid attention, I suppose. Unfortunately their arrived was rather overshadowed by other disc I bought and I only listened to the discs a few times. But anyway, as often happens here on the list, ectosynchronicity struck again and I played their discs last night to remind myself how good they sound. They are good, and I think I'll like them better as I play them more and become more familiar with the songs. In many ways it's mainstream alternapop. I like it quite a lot but find that music hard to describe other than the singer's voice is good, and they're pretty good songwriters. Catchy. Sorry to to be more specific even if I did listen to them just last night... - --Neile N.P. Martha and the Muffins, _Then Again: A Retrospective_ which just arrived today. Great to have this material on cd! Come out and dance! - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Neile Graham ..... http://www.sff.net/people/neile ..... neile@sff.net The Ectophiles' Guide to Good Music .... http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 22:01:08 -0400 From: Ted & Debbie Subject: Re: Over & Over & Other. . . Count me as another who plays things over way too much. Currently, Martin Simpson's instrumental "When I Was On Horseback" is my near constant companion at work (gorgeous Irish tunes on guitar & fiddle), Howard Jones' "People" has been on tape in my truck for a week or more, and Til Tuesday's compilation disc "All About Love" has been on the cd player at home. Happy's new disc sneaks in occasionally too. . . ^_^ Also, another vote for "Equipoise" and "Building the Colossus" here. Equipoise was my first exposure to Happy, via a few tracks on a sampler tape from a friend (walked to a record shop the next day to buy it and Warpaint). And BtC is darn fine too! I have a nice color poster of Happy pics on my wall with the legend "Big Dreams, Big Life" (made it myself). Though I'll admit that "Down Down" is probably my least fave track on the disc. Thrice-danged Ted ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 18:54:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Old Spice Subject: I really love this job Sittin at work, drinkin wine and listenin to music, on a CDplayer the company bought for me, for when I work late, for when I'm gettin time and a half. So far, I've listened to MWABT--just bought it yesterday and it may be my favorite HR yet. I really like when an artist gives full reign to his/her quirkiness with little or no thought to chartability. (And yes, I agree with some of you that Roy is about the least compelling song on this album.) This seems like a very mature album: the variation in texture and tone tastes like experimentation, not indecision. I'm sure I'll listen to it again tonight. Meanwhile, I went from MWABT to Lambert Hendricks & Ross's _Swingers_, my favorite of their albums. Finally found it on CD the other night at Tower. When I looked for it less than a year ago, it was out of print. Now it's back, on EMI Manhattan. From that, I went to the new Patricia Barber, _Modern_Cool_. What a beautiful, beautiful album. For those of you unlucky enough not to know Barber's work (i.e., those of you outside of Chicago, with the notable exception of Yrvyn) she's a serious jazz artist, albeit with a postmodern skew to her approach. Though she's deny it: one of the songs on this album is called "Postmodern Blues," in which she seems to lament the inescapable reach of postmodernism: as the century ends and tradition turns in on itself as Boulez screams and yells his music is put on the shelf repetition is back, a rose is a rose, said herself Bill Gates has won i've got the postmodern blues She writes most of her own material (all but two songs and one lyric on _MC_), and it has the airy solidity of some of moodern jazz's classics, without ever getting ponderous or mathematically antiseptic, as Monk's stuff, for example, often does for me. It's as warm and sly as it is serious and respectable. She's like Holly Cole, if she wrote her own stuff and didn't smile much. To relate this to the recent thread, Barber plays no coy games with her sexual orientation. In her interpretation of the album's two covers, the Doors' "Light My Fire"--imagine k.d.lang doing a Jim Morrison impersonation--and Tom Jones's "She's a Lady," (did I mention she's got a goofy, if somewhat dark, sense of humor? You should hear her cover of "Ode to Billy Joe" with just a standup bass) she does not adapt the lyrics: You know that it would be untrue You know that I would be a liar If I were to say to you Girl, we couldn't get much higher and I never ask very much, And I don't refuse her. I always treat her with respect, I'd never abuse her. What she's got is hard to find, I don't want to lose her. (Etc.) On these, and some of her more lighthearted originals, she really does put one in mind of k.d. lang, except she seems to have more confidence in her voice--or at least in its place as the focus of the music--and likes to sing inside big, dark, spacious silences; the accompaniment is almost always very, very spare. Truly one of the best albums of the year so far. On premonition records, which might be her own AG-type label. From there, I went to _The_In_Sound_from_Way_Out_, a compilation of Beastie Boys' instrumentals. Some great, great stuff on here: Shaft-like grooves with overlaid samples of Tibetan monks, lots of cheesy Hammond organs, lots of rolling basslines. This has just become one of my favorite Acid Jazz albums at the same time it's showed me how much that genre owes to the Boise Beasts. Next up: the Squirrel Nut Zippers new one, _Perennial_Favorites_. I've only heard it once or twice before tonight, so I can't comment in detail, but I liked it enough to be impatient for it to start. - --charley n.p. _The_In_Sound_from_Way_Out_ n.r. _The_Wasp_Factory_ by Iain Banks. _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 22:02:53 -0400 From: Philip David Morgan Subject: [Fwd: An unpleasant surprise] This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - --------------85980A9136179DBED89657AE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Good Evening, all: Forgive the following forwarded messge, but I have to share this with you. If the "automated message" mentioned below hasn't turned up in your mailbox yet, it still might. Many, many apologies... Philip David 8/27/1998 - --------------85980A9136179DBED89657AE Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-ID: <35E60ED4.ACE4FBD1@li.net> Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 21:58:46 -0400 From: Philip David Morgan Reply-To: philipda@li.net Organization: Cloudstone X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en]C-DIAL (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: STORYTELL Subject: An unpleasant surprise Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear Friends: Please forgive the following...what follows was completely unexpected. Early this morning, I innocently imported my Netscape address book into my Netscape WebMail account - so I can remain in touch with as many people as possible on line if I am suddenly away for any reason. Unfortunately - and without my knowledge - the server at USA.Net (which co-handles WebMail details with Netscape) apparently generated automated notes to every name in the imported address book list. That may have or may eventuall include(d) Storytell. Yes, I now have an alternative address - philipdavidmorgan@netscape.net ...but it is still an alternative address for now. Please disregard - and discard - the automated message (which will have the header "Update your records!") when and if you get it. I did not mean to have such a message sent, and I deeply apologize to everyone in advance. Philip David 8/27/1998 - --------------85980A9136179DBED89657AE-- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 22:08:39 -0400 From: meredith Subject: veda hille pictures Hi! I thought I'd get caught up on ecto today. Hah. Did I mention that Alvin was at the House Of SMOE again this past weekend? As always, his timing was impeccable: he got to see Veda Hille twice. He took some really great pictures at the Knitting Factory show on Monday, some of which I've just put up for all to see. They're at . Looking forward to seeing some of you at JeffW's on Saturday! If we don't get blown away by Tropical Storm Bonnie first ... +==========================================================================+ | Meredith Tarr meth@smoe.org | | New Haven, CT USA http://www.smoe.org/~meth | +==========================================================================+ | "things are more beautiful when they're obscure" -- veda hille | | *** TRAJECTORY, the Veda Hille mailing list: *** | | *** http://www.smoe.org/meth/trajectory.html *** | +==========================================================================+ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 12:57:24 -0400 From: jjh969@juno.com Subject: Happy Musings Listening to MWABT over a commodious flagon o' brackish swill and a gasper, I though, how cool would it have been had the late Nino Rota written a tune(s) for Ms. Rhodes ? Not covers, written for her, with her talents in mind. Eno ? Bacharach ? Count Basie ? Monk ? Ennio Morricone ? Gershwin ? Tom Waits ? ********************************************************************************************* JJH969@Juno. Com --- JJH969@msn.com ParadiseSound@Juno.Com -- 718-850-2300 http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/triadmedia/sound.htm _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 20:14:12 -0700 From: "Bill" Subject: One of those things This is so cool... Here I'm reading some deeply technical e-mail from the FreeBSD mailing list (the unix operating system thingie), as I see this guy's signature: | O Siem / We are all family / O Siem / We're all the same | O Siem / The fires of freedom | Dance in the burning flame | | - Susan Aglukark and Chad Irschick I can hear her singing in my head... O siem, we are all the same. Share the music! (sorry Jill, I don't mean to be a copycat, but you always nail it right on the head) - - Bill "the wagill guy" :) npimh: O Siem - Susan Aglukark wp: MWABT - Happy Rhodes (I got it! I got it!) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 23:16:29 -0400 From: pauly on the shore Subject: the chariot a long time ago, also sprach Tim: >The Chariot - Oooh, beautiful, ethereal, weepy ballad time! Lie back and >soak up the atmosphere. Who would have thought it was about religion! I love >the. Three fantastic things: the slow verses and the high, lilting choruses, >the keyboard washes, and that little synth line which reminds me of >mid-eighties Genesis for some unknown reason. which keyboard wash? the one that make the song sound like a x-file soundtrack? woj n.p. duh ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1998 00:04:49 -0400 From: pauly on the shore Subject: Re: oy, to be e.mortal also sprach Neal Copperman: >Gee meth, it's hard for me to imagine you shrieking "I LOVE YOU TORI!!!!". >Glad to know you aren't predictable :) naw, she shrieks other things at concerts -- some of which i have on tape and all of which are most amusing. she also has a very distinctive "wooo!". ;) on a related note, i have a very clear recording of our very own smoemaster jeffw yelling, and i quote, "sit your ass down!" at the beginning of one of the recent tori amos shows we saw. ;) speaking of which, i should mention (if only to make this a worthwhile post) that i am totally thrilled by these plugged shows of ms. amos (mrs. hawley?). if tori's first three tours were about intimacy, these shows are about sheer power and magnificence. the old songs translate well with the band and the new songs (with the exception of the questionable "raspberry swirl") capture a while new look and feel without losing any of tori's essence. if i could afford to, i would be driving around the country following this tour around. since i can't, i've been living the shows vicariously through the setlists and reviews posted to the tori mailing lists and alternating between jealousy and amazement. woj n.p. duh p.s. "looking over cliffs" has that same goofy x-files keyboard blip as "the chariot"! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 22:40:54 -0700 From: Neile Graham Subject: Re: oy, to be e.mortal woj wrote: >speaking of which, i should mention (if only to make this a worthwhile >post) that i am totally thrilled by these plugged shows of ms. amos (mrs. >hawley?). if tori's first three tours were about intimacy, these shows are >about sheer power and magnificence. the old songs translate well with the >band and the new songs (with the exception of the questionable "raspberry >swirl") capture a while new look and feel without losing any of tori's >essence. if i could afford to, i would be driving around the country >following this tour around. since i can't, i've been living the shows >vicariously through the setlists and reviews posted to the tori mailing >lists and alternating between jealousy and amazement. Oh, damn, and me without a ticket for her show here in Seattle on the 11th and we have a houseguest and will just be coming back into town from a few days on the very westest part of the west coast. I gotta go, eh? I did get to see her club shows here, and very little could top that. I guess I'll have to go & see if I can get a ticket at outside or at the door. Sigh. - --Neile n.p. Astrid, _Boy For You_ Yves (are you here?) take note: this is Astrid formerly of Goya Dress. She's solo now. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Neile Graham ..... http://www.sff.net/people/neile ..... neile@sff.net The Ectophiles' Guide to Good Music .... http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ End of ecto-digest V4 #296 **************************