From: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org (ecto-digest) To: ecto-digest@smoe.org Subject: ecto-digest V4 #269 Reply-To: ecto@smoe.org Sender: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Thursday, August 13 1998 Volume 04 : Number 269 Today's Subjects: ----------------- MWABT [Joseph Zitt ] Re: MW via CDNOW...and MW Hunting too! ["C. K. Coney" ] Kristy Thirsk show, Friday Aug 14 (fwd) [Michael Curry ] Re: HR Back Catalog - found some! ["C. K. Coney" ] Joni Mitchell New CD ["Charlie Sweeney" ] Re: grrr. ["Michael P. Hayes" ] Re: Back to the Garden ["Xenu's Sister" ] fyi ["Jeffrey C. Burka" ] Re: J*rn (was Re: Many Worlds Are Heard Tonight ["Jeffrey C. Burka" ] Re: *Really* evil/anti Lilith/Sarah article up on the web... [charley dar] Re: *Really* evil/anti Lilith/Sarah article up on the web... [Joseph Zitt] Re: *Really* evil/anti Lilith/Sarah article up on the web... [jason and j] cdnow advance fulfillment [Jerene Waite ] ecto IRC, part II [Jeff Wasilko ] Kutty Brazelton, Curve article (was Re: *Really* evil/anti Lilith/Sarah article up on the web... [] Re: MWABT hunting [Silme@ix.netcom.com] Singer/songwriters show in Omaha Wednesday (last) [Felix Strates ] Re: 100 years ["Xenu's Sister" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 16:36:07 -0400 From: Joseph Zitt Subject: MWABT Now having listened to it twice... Wow. Her best, richest, most consistent album since Warpaint. The sounds are beautifully balanced, and (despite fears I had of it being more of a trance/techno album than before) the songwriting and singing is as full as ever. She reveals even more new voices on this one, the slightly fried sound on "Looking Over Cliffs" and a childlike chorus on... uh... another one. I also don't hear "Roy" as a single, despite it having a clear thump one can tap a foot to easily. I would go for "Serenading Genius", though I would go for a mix that brought the lead vocals forward. Vocally (though not contentwise) (and this is *not* a criticism) it reminds me of the best performances of Karen Carpenter or Anne Murray. Certainly if something as utterly unmemorable as "Adia" can lodge on the top 10 forever (after having heard that gerjillions of times, I still can't remember athing about the song moments after it ends), this song would seem to have a shot. One quasi-dumb question: Listening to the stereo mix shows me that I have things reversed on either my living room stereo or my PC speakers. When "Proof" does that striking separation, throwing the voice to one side and the filtered instruments to the other, is the voice supposed to be on the right or left? n.p. MWABT, again... - -- - ---------1---------1---------1---------1---------1---------1---------- |||/ Joseph Zitt ===== jzitt@humansystems.com ===== Human Systems \||| ||/ Maryland? = <*> SILENCE: The John Cage Mailing List <*> = ecto \|| |/ http://www.realtime.net/~jzitt ====== Comma: Voices of New Music \| ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 16:55:32 -0700 From: "C. K. Coney" Subject: Re: MW via CDNOW...and MW Hunting too! Neile Graham wrote: > Not mine--I did an advance order through CD NOW Friday I think--after Carol > told us about the sale, anyway. Whoa...so I told folks about the CD Now sale & ya'll already got yours! Mine's not here yet...hope it wasn't pilfered by the post office! :-( Now I just had an experience akin to foreplay without any...you know what. I went to Borders in Snellville, GA with my friend Ruth, an older lady friend originally from Panama. So...she goes lookin' at books, I go immediately to the "R" section. Low and behold, the Happy Rhodes placecard is the forefront of the row, *and* Many Worlds is facing me in all its glory! I was sooo happy...for once Happy's section wasn't behind the Residents (who btw I like when I'm in a certain zany mood). I didn't have to sneak and move Happy forward as I've done in the past. (Don't tell Borders!) It was cool to see her upfront where she belongs! So...I grab it & request to preview it at the counter, where they have two cd players w/headphones for listening to anything in store that's not already on their listening stations. By that time Ruth was waiting for me & looking at her watch, so I whizzed through my sneak preview, and WOWEE...such exquisite foreplay for my ears! Such rich detail! Anyway... I was thinking about buying it, even though I probably have one coming from CD Now any day now, and at a lower price. After all, I know I'll be buying a few for gifts. Well, I asked if it was the only one in stock, store person said "yes, we only have one, but it can be special ordered." I said "well, that's silly, 'cause it's a new release and folks will be looking for this, and you have only one which I'm going to buy?" No response to that. Well, as tempted as I was to buy it...I just didn't want to walk out with the only one & I really wanted Happy to retain her foreground place in that "R" row. So wistfully I walked her back & placed her in her prominent postion, for some other lucky fan to find...or for a future ectophile to discover her & take her to preview, curiosity piqued because of the lovely cover art. Yes, I did enjoy exquisite foreplay...tiny fingers of aural gratification, pulsating, taking me to another level, yet leaving me wanting so much more. Tonite I hit Tower Records in Atlanta proper, and I'll be asking for the cd if I don't see it. If there are several in the R section...I'm buying one, to heck with my CD Now order, which will come sooner or later, I guess. I'm running on I know, and I don't even have the darn thing yet! But I just wanted to share my lil experience of "Happy hunting" 8/12/98. TTFN, Carol n.p. Seely, "Seconds" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 15:53:46 -0500 From: "Xenu's Sister" Subject: J*rn (was Re: Many Worlds Are Heard Tonight At 09:16 AM 8/12/98 -0700, charley darbo wrote: >---Robert Lovejoy wrote: > >> J*rn is MWABT, but more so Btw, I know this is a typo. Bob meant to say *Jork*, of course. >Say it ain't so! Chills scamper up and down my spine like wet, >giggling gerbils. > >Still, it's funny to think of J*rn as merely wascally, rather than the >focal point of all the universe's stupidity and evil. STOOOOOP! This is the 3rd mention of J*rn in as many days, enough that some new person might pop up and ask who he is. Well, for one thing, he's someone who does a "Kib*" (uses search engines and programs) for his name, so I would not be surprised to see him pop up here to find out who's been talking about him. This list and gaffa would be the most likely places he'd have monitered too. For another, he used to be a very good friend to Chris, Charley and me, and though he went on a hateful verbal rampage against Chris and me in Love-Hounds/gaffa, that past friendship still means something to me. He was a founding subscriber to Ecto, and helped Chris and me in more ways that I can count, not the least of which was helping us move when we came to Chicago, and helping me promote Happy to gaffians before it all went bad. I pity him. I also, I hate to say, fear him, so I don't want him anywhere near me, either physically or on-line. NO MORE J*RN MENTIONS, PLEASE! (or if someone does, please remember to disguise his name) Vickie DIVX = GREED - Boycott Circuit City! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 16:58:46 -0400 (EDT) From: Rachel Kramer Bussel Subject: TO Lilith 8/16 ticket available There is now a ticket for Toronto Lilith Fair sans Liz Phair on August 16 available. If you're interested, DON'T write to me but to my friend Ata at atarivers@hotmail.com :) Rachel "I said you can lie to me I own what's inside of me and nothing surprises me anymore" -- shawn colvin, "polaroids" "wish you'd believe me he's not all he seems to be his eyes burn hot enough but hold less warmth than you think" -- sarge, "charms and feigns" - --------------------------------------------------------------------------- my Mary Lou Lord page is at http://pages.nyu.edu/~rkb200/ To join the Mary Lou Lord mailing list, email Majordomo@smoe.org with ONLY "subscribe jinglejangle" OR "subscribe jinglejangle-digest" in the BODY. For info on my zine I'M NOT WAITING go to http://pages.nyu.edu/~rkb200/zine.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 17:00:20 -0700 From: "C. K. Coney" Subject: Re: MWABT Stuart Myerburg wrote: > On Wed, 12 Aug 1998, C. K. Coney wrote: > > > I see you have an Emory email addy so you must have hit the same Tower > > I'm going to tonite in Atlanta. I'll request it as well, if I don't see > > it displayed. > > Yeah, it was the Tower in Atlanta right next to Lenox Square. They seem > to have slowly erased Happy from their shelves. They used to have a > section for her and had most of her albums in stock. Now, they don't even > have a divider (or at least they didn't as of yesterday). Maybe, like you > said, enough requests for Happy will prompt them to at least recognize the > name and not keep her CDs stashed away in boxes. > Those boogers! That's the largest, supposedly "best" Tower store in Atlanta! If I don't see the cd's there tonite, I'm gonna go back tomorrow with my cats & dogs & order them, "Sick 'em, grrrls!" Anyway, Stuart, try Borders up on Peachtree not far from Lenox...if Snailville has Happy, they will also! Also, is there an HMV outlet at Lenox? Maybe there? Hey, let's bombard them with phone calls! I'll call Tower right now! Carol ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 16:00:21 -0500 (CDT) From: Michael Curry Subject: Kristy Thirsk show, Friday Aug 14 (fwd) Happy news for Vancouver area ectophiles... - ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 12:55:40 -0700 From: Bill Arab To: "'vicious-thorn@smoe.org'" Subject: Kristy Thirsk show, Friday Aug 14 Hi everyone - Just thought I would mention that Kristy will be playing (with the band ) at the Brickyard - 315 Carrall St., Gastown, Vancouver, on Friday August 14. We're playing at about 10:30. The other bands are Brundlefly and Clover Honey, both really good, so it should be a good show. Things are kind of sparse on the Vancouver scene, in terms of live venues ('twas ever thus..), so we aren't playing live as much as we'd like. Kristy's writing a LOT of songs though, and we are adding new stuff all the time, so we should be able to get something out sooner than later. I'll post more shows once they get confirmed. - Bill ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 17:07:37 -0700 From: "C. K. Coney" Subject: Re: HR Back Catalog - found some! Joe Casadonte wrote: > Hi All, > > While picking up MWABT (just popped it in!) I found almost all of her > previous CDs. There were at least 5 copies of MWABT, and one each of: > Rhode I (my favorite), Rhodes II, Ecto, Rearmament, RhodeSongs. There > were two or three copies of BTC. I think I saw one copy of each of > the following, but I can't remember: The Keep, Warpaint. Did I miss > any? Hmmm...Equipoise? Anyway, yay Borders Bryn Mawr (but then again, dont you have really cool radio stations in Philly that play Happy all the time?) Enjoy! Carol ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 17:46:01 -4000 From: "Charlie Sweeney" Subject: Joni Mitchell New CD Hi ectophiles, I haven't been keeping up with JMDL lately, but I can tell you that the JMDL (Joni Mitchell Discussion List) cranks out tribute, guitar player tech info, and some of the most erudite general musical knowledge on the intenet. And the clock is running on the new CD _Taming the Tiger_. To check on the release date, hour, minute, second click here: http://www.jmdl.com And of course, JMDL is hosted here on the smoe server. Charlie Sweeney (=}===# Virtual Guitarist-Something Black charlies@voicenet.com http://www.voicenet.com/~charlies "Caught in my struggle for higher achievement and my search for love, that don't seem to cease" ...Joni Mitchell ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 17:07:30 -0500 (CDT) From: "Michael P. Hayes" Subject: Re: grrr. On Tue, 11 Aug 1998, Jeffrey C. Burka wrote: > Several people have commented "I was told they had it in a box in the > back, but weren't sure where." Way back when, when I worked > at an (ugh) Sam Goody, I don't remember *ever* having problems > keeping all of the incoming stock put out on time (shipments > came on thursdays and everything made it to the shelves that > day; new releases appeared on their tuesday street dates...) > > So is this just a lot of gross incompetence? I know of an indie store that (well, used to) put new releases out on the Friday before the Tuesday they were "supposed" to be released; their logic behind that was, "the fans want it, we just received it; why should we sit on it for four days before selling it?" I remember asking the owner, just before Led Zeppelin's came out, if that, too, would "magically" appear the Friday before as well, wink wink nudge nudge, and he told me that lately (back then) the distributors have been holding back major releases like that one until Monday, one day before, to try and crack down on that, since apparently this store wasn't the only one who did this. Maybe this is happening with all new releases now, along the lines of the way that they gradually raise CD prices? I really don't know. -- Mike ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 17:45:20 -0500 From: "Xenu's Sister" Subject: Re: Back to the Garden At 09:26 AM 8/12/98 -0400, Tom Ditto wrote: >Hard to believe I'm the only Ectophile skipping off to Bethel. ... >http://www.dayinthegarden.com/welcome.html > >This is one web site that won't balk you at the door. It's true that Samson's main page is still funky. I still only see a big empty box. The "Click Here to Enter" (which I *do* appreciate them adding) doesn't work at first. After about 10-15 seconds, the box disappears and the Click Here button is finally enabled. It seems no matter what, I'm forced to download a Logo I can't even see before I'm allowed in. Ah well, the designer always wins. Almost always. As a result, in the process of updating the FAQ and Collective Heart, I'm changing all Samson URLs to home.html, so no one going there from my pages will have to deal with their big dumb logo. Vickie DIVX = GREED - Boycott Circuit City! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 18:51:52 -0400 From: "Jeffrey C. Burka" Subject: fyi two things: a) last night I posted a message about how frustrating it was hearing all the stories from people who couldn't find MWABT (more frustrating for *them* no doubt!). I CC'd that Samson, and Kevin McManus wrote back: >If people are having trouble finding the CD I wish they would let us >(Samson) know which city they were in so we could correct the >problem - ( (402) 330-2520 - samsonmusic.com ). so if y'all are having problems, let Samson know! It can only help Happy... b) I dropped into the DC Tower this evening, to look for the long-sought 2nd copy I needed, and lo, they had about 6 of 'em. Filed under H. (fortuitously near Emm Gryner's _Public_, which I also nabbed, so can I *really* complain?) So as I was making my purchase, I said to the clerk, as he picked up MWABT, "Incidentally, that was misfiled under H instead of R." "OOOOOHHHHH, you mean her last name is Rhodes?" "Yeah...made the disc kind of hard to find!" "Oh, great, thanks for letting us know." I find the whole thing odd, as this Tower has stocked Happy for years. But hey, at least they had the album! jeff np _Public_, Emm Gryner ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 18:58:11 -0400 From: "Jeffrey C. Burka" Subject: Re: J*rn (was Re: Many Worlds Are Heard Tonight Xenu's Sister wrote: > though he > went on a hateful verbal rampage against Chris and me in > Love-Hounds/gaffa Yeah, but I'm the only one he called the anti-christ! (well, actually, when he was convinced that Charley was actually me, posting anonymously, maybe he also called Charley that. heh.) jeff (wondering if he still has a transcript of that flamewar around; it was probably the weirdest one he was ever involved in) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 15:59:38 -0700 (PDT) From: charley darbo Subject: Re: J*rn (was Re: Many Worlds Are Heard Tonight - ---"Jeffrey C. Burka" wrote: > > Xenu's Sister wrote: > > though he > > went on a hateful verbal rampage against Chris and me in > > Love-Hounds/gaffa > > Yeah, but I'm the only one he called the anti-christ! > > (well, actually, when he was convinced that Charley was actually > me, posting anonymously, maybe he also called Charley that. heh.) > Actually, he seemed to be implying that anyone who uses proper grammar and double-spaces after periods is the antichrist; you were just the only one he was able to find who fit those criteria. And I still have a copy, iff'n youre innerested. > jeff > (wondering if he still has a transcript of that flamewar around; it > was probably the weirdest one he was ever involved in) - --charley _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 19:15:08 -0400 From: Angelos Kyrlidis Subject: MWABT first impressions Hi, Well I have only listened to it twice so far. The verdict: Bravo Happy. Great album, but much more complex than anything she has put out before. There are four songs that stand out for me: 100 years: My absolute favorite so far. There's so much happening in this song lyrically, vocally, and musically. Many worlds are born tonight: Love the chanting and the mood. Ra is a busy god: I was wondering why it sounded so familiar. (*Duh* for me). Listening to it on my way back from work with the volume cranked up in my car made the difference. PLAY IT LOUD! Proof: My second favorite song. The rest will take more time for me to get used to, but either one of the above songs is single-worthy, in my opinion. [In a twisted sort of way I am inclined to believe that Happy has been listening to a lot of Outside/Earthling era David Bowie, and can't help but think that 100 years and Proof could become monster hits if remixed with a jungle beat]. I can also picture the video clip for 100 years and the CD single with dance remixes of Poetic Justice and Wrong Century as teasers for the back catalogue. :) One thing that maybe wasn't clear in my previous message is that I am grateful to Samson for the fact that Tower and other record stores seem to know that this album exists, even though they may have not displayed it immediately. What a difference from the days of the release of Equipoise? Remember those days? Cheers, Angelos ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 16:18:27 -0700 (PDT) From: charley darbo Subject: Re: *Really* evil/anti Lilith/Sarah article up on the web... - ---00jnweiser@bsuvc.bsu.edu wrote: > > Charley writes: > > >I went to the site, printed out the article, and read the whole thing > >at lunch today. > > Personally, except for one thing, I agree with the article 100%. > > You do? Wow, can I ask why? It would hardly make sense to repeat every point of the article just to say that I agree with each one of them, but to distill my Lilith Unfair rant of the last year or so: 1) LF is not about promoting female artists as much as it is about selling tickets: almost all the women invited to perform are safe bets from a promoter's point of view. In other words, they are women who have been little, if at all, affected by the anti-woman bias of mainstream radio and record sales; women who have a right, of course, to sympathize with overlooked female artists, but less right, in my opinion, to capitalize on that unfortunate fact. 2) Most of the artists invited are the kind of performers who (and this is related to #1) reinforce the stereotype of female artists as toothless, sentimental, non-feminist serenaders of the status quo: pretty makers of pretty music. To live up to its stated agenda, LF would have to include more than a token dose of female artists who are not easily grouped among the Sarahs, Toris, Loreenas, and Jewels of the entertainment world. Most of the artists in the LF tour are, in my opinion, more comfortably lumped in with Celine Dion and Mariah Cary (sp?) than with the real female pioneers of the musical arts: Patti Smith, Diamanda Galas, L7, Kitty Brazelton, Ingrid Karklins, Carla Bozulich, Polly Jean Harvey, Danielle Dax, Salt N Pepa, etc. etc. etc. And even the more mainstream, but more intelligent and challenging artists are sadly underrepresented in LF: Where's Kirsty MacColl? Jane Siberry? Anna Domino? etc.etc.etc. So, in other words, to oversimplify and summarize (I gotta catch a train), the people profiting from LF, either financially or exposure-wise, are doing so by hypocritically exploiting the plight of the artists they are _not_ including in their event. More later, maybe. - --charley > > > But sloppy editing does not disqualify a good writer's work, in my > >opinion: as a sometime editor, I can testify that some of the best > >writers need some of the closest editorial scrutiny. > > Hmm... I'm a journalism student here so I guess I can kind of > comment.... Too much to respond to here. Maybe later. - --ch _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 20:15:57 -0400 From: Joseph Zitt Subject: Re: *Really* evil/anti Lilith/Sarah article up on the web... charley darbo wrote: > (sp?) than with the real female pioneers of the musical arts: Patti > Smith, Diamanda Galas, L7, Kitty Brazelton, Ingrid Karklins, Carla > Bozulich, Polly Jean Harvey, Danielle Dax, Salt N Pepa, etc. etc. etc. I recognize the other names, but who are Kitty Brazelton and Carla Bozulich? - -- - ---------1---------1---------1---------1---------1---------1---------- |||/ Joseph Zitt ===== jzitt@humansystems.com ===== Human Systems \||| ||/ Maryland? = <*> SILENCE: The John Cage Mailing List <*> = ecto \|| |/ http://www.realtime.net/~jzitt ====== Comma: Voices of New Music \| ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 20:27:37 -0400 (EDT) From: jason and jill Subject: Re: *Really* evil/anti Lilith/Sarah article up on the web... > 1) LF is not about promoting female artists as much as it is about > selling tickets: almost all the women invited to perform are safe bets > from a promoter's point of view. All of the women invited weren't safe bets, together, until *after* lilith had been organized and underway last year. This is like a prospector finding oil in desert everyone had actively ignored and cordoned off for years, and then being told, "Ol' Clem, you ain't sh*t. Hell, since you found oil there we've found wells all over that desert! Go back to your farm, you ol' wimp." > In other words, they are women who > have been little, if at all, affected by the anti-woman bias of > mainstream radio and record sales; Neglecting, of course, that most of these women were "Who's she???" when Lilith first got under way. women who have a right, of course, > to sympathize with overlooked female artists, but less right, in my > opinion, to capitalize on that unfortunate fact. I other words, it's okay to be downtrodden, but don't go successfully doing something about it. > 2) Most of the artists invited are the kind of performers who (and > this is related to #1) reinforce the stereotype of female artists as > toothless, sentimental, non-feminist serenaders of the status quo: > pretty makers of pretty music. To live up to its stated agenda, LF > would have to include more than a token dose of female artists who are I'm amused by the number of articles that complain about artists "not invited" who then it turns out were invited and said no, or trashed lilith from the start...Sleater-Kinney, Ani DiFranco, Courtney Love, etc... > So, in other words, to oversimplify and summarize (I gotta catch a > train), the people profiting from LF, either financially or > exposure-wise, are doing so by hypocritically exploiting the plight of > the artists they are _not_ including in their event. > More later, maybe. What's I've found interesting about the anti-Lilith articles, and which nobody has mentioned, is this: there's a lot of animosity towards Lilith among the male rockerdudes and their fans in the press, but instead of attacking Lilith themselves, most magazines and newspapers have found female writers more than willing to do the work for them. Take a look at almost any anti-Lilith articles and you will find pretty much the same text--complaints about Lilith Fair being successful at the box office and complaints that the same dozen or so bands aren't on the lilith bill. Meanwhile, I suppose they are out there and I've just missed it, in which case I'd love to see the cites--I haven't seen any of the "tougher" band say "We tried to work with Lilith and they didn't want us" while I've seen plenty state "Lilith contacted us, and we don't want anything to do with those wusses" and "we don't open for Sarah McLachlan." So what's the deal--why all the female writers willing to light a bonfire around Lilith Fair and writing articles that never mention the pre-Lilith environment (remember when Lilith was such a big risk and the press doubted it would make a cent and would fold mid-tour?) and never mention the band that have stiffed Lilith and instead state as fact that Lilith lineup is entirely the result of who was invited rather than who accepted? Jason ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 17:39:16 -0700 From: Jerene Waite Subject: cdnow advance fulfillment My advance order of MWABT (and LSD's Flux) (and the 2 Area rereleases, Perfect Dream and Radio Caroline) was shipped last Friday and received Monday--not a promo cd. Also fulfilling my mailbox was the latest Terra Incognita. It was a wonderful evening to listen to the new music and read Happy's thoughts, Sharon's comments, and the lyric book allatonce. Yes, wow. This is a major advance from BtC (which I still love and which hooked me into the Happy fold). Her voice, the violin, her harmonies, her clarity, the measured and expert electronically woven layers... No single itsy drop of disappointment between my ears. --And my daughter liked it. (Is she growing up or am I ...never mind.) My favorite? All of them. Winter took my breath away. She is every bit as good as she was and now so much better in all the ways there are to be good. Addendum--I do like cdnow's business m.o. I had already ordered the other 3 cds when it occurred to me that I could advance order MWABT. Flux was also released on Aug. 11. The software asked me if I wanted to combine the order and save postage. Of course. I also was able to find Michael Vetter cds (tamboura & vocal drones--effortless when paired with ABoneCroneDrone by Sheila Chandra) there and nowhere else. I had been looking in New Age, Jazz, World (?), and regular Pop for a year. A search at cdnow found them in classical. Aurally gratified, Jerene ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 21:43:19 -0400 From: Jeff Wasilko Subject: ecto IRC, part II Hey folks! Let's not let a good thing die! There are a few people on IRC now, so please join us. We're on dalnet, efnet, and undernet. Take your pick! Jeff ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 21:13:59 +0000 From: Silme@ix.netcom.com Subject: Kutty Brazelton, Curve article (was Re: *Really* evil/anti Lilith/Sarah article up on the web... charley darbo wrote: > (sp?) than with the real female pioneers of the musical arts: Patti > Smith, Diamanda Galas, L7, Kitty Brazelton, Ingrid Karklins, Carla > Bozulich, Polly Jean Harvey, Danielle Dax, Salt N Pepa, etc. etc. More mentions of Kitty Brazelton!! I missed her performance in Hildegurls when I was in New York last month, but I still have my original Musica Orbis album! ("O, I want to go where the red winds blow... miles away..." :) Btw, the latest Curve has a much better take on the Lilith vs. Michigan argument. Their articles aren't nearly as negative as the one in Girlfriends. Curve's take is that while Lilith serves a purpose and is a fine thing, so does Michigan, and it offers profiles of new(er) musicians and a "where are they now" on performers such as Cris Williamson, Meg Christian, etc. Catie Curtis and Veda Hille are two of the new(er) musicians profiled, btw. Ellen ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 21:17:11 +0000 From: Silme@ix.netcom.com Subject: Re: MWABT hunting Larry S. Greenfield wrote: > > What a theme! > Powerless Tower records. And people wonder why I tout those indie stores. :) Seriously, I usually try to avoid Tower. Unless it's on sale, new cd's tend to run $17.99 there. Sheesh! I can buy them at my neighborhood indie store for much less. Ellen ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 22:23:31 -0500 From: Felix Strates Subject: Singer/songwriters show in Omaha Wednesday (last) While there may be few here that care, I'll note that Lisa Loeb put on a real nice show here this past Wednesday (5 Aug). There were two others on the bill; it was a night of singer/songwriters all performing solo (mostly with A/E guitars). Was after 11 before lisa came on and the house had an announcement, "Please refrain from smoking while she's on stage (step outside if you need to smoke)" and, for a wonder, everyone did. She launched right into two songs as soon as she got on stage and, so, made me worry she'd just sing and not speak. But, through the set, she did talk: of her songs, of being disconcerted by the people out one door bowling and out another playing vollyball, of a fight near the bar.... I hadn't intended on hanging around for an autograph, but after a time, it became clear that she was going to stick around for everybody in line (rather cool, I thought; it was one helluva line--meaning that, since the show wasn't over till 12:30, she stayed for another hour). I was wearing the Tsunami t-shirt I got at their show here last November; her comment, "Tsunami, cool band. My friends Ida used to be on their label." Could've done without the first opener, Rufus Wainright. Through most of his set he played keyboards, but also used an A/E guitar and a electric guitar each for a song or two. It's not that he played any of those badly, but that He reminded me most of a Reno lounge act with stuff like "Matinee Idol," a song for River Phoenix. The highlight of the evening, though, was Steve Poltz. He rather minded me of Todd Snider (who's played Omaha a fair bit in the last few years). Kinda prefered his singing of "You Were Meant For Me," even with half the girls in the audience singing along with the choruses. Certainly will have to see about getting his latest album. Will look for it tomorrow when I go MWABT hunting again (went yesterday, but the store [which samson did today tell me's'sposed to have it] didn't have it). - - - - - - - - - - Felix Strates Take me to the gallows panflx@earthlink.net hang me from the tree http://home.earthlink.net/~panflx/ -- Boiled In Lead, "Black Crows" - - - - - - - - - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 23:21:29 EDT From: Riphug@aol.com Subject: Re: cdnow advance fulfillment Well, I'm miffed :( I pre-ordered my copy of MWABT from CDNow on July 24th......and today I got a letter saying that it had been shipped on Tuesday, August 11th. I thought by pre-ordering that's supposed to mean that you actually *receive* the new release on its release date. *sigh* Jill :D ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 00:44:09 -0400 From: "Jeffrey C. Burka" Subject: 100 years so this evening I took copy #2 of MWABT over to my step-mother's and ended up hanging out while she listened to the first 4 tracks before coming home again. She found it rather amusing that the first track on the first album on a label with a link to Gateway was from the point of view of a computer. - --- I've decided that I totally adore "100 Years." and find it a beautiful and tragic piece. It brings two things to mind. One is that I keep thinking of the house in Bradbury's "There Will Come Soft Rains," the final short-story/chapter in _The Martian Chronicles_. The other is that the computer is describing the world that's left after the character singing in "Runners" has no place left to hide... kind of a cool sequel. "Little things break, circuitry burns..." jeff np. _Ambient Volume 1_, Aural Gratification ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 00:04:27 -0500 From: "Xenu's Sister" Subject: Re: 100 years At 12:44 AM 8/13/98 -0400, Jeffrey C. Burka wrote: >I've decided that I totally adore "100 Years." and find it a beautiful >and tragic piece. It brings two things to mind. One is that I >keep thinking of the house in Bradbury's "There Will Come Soft Rains," >the final short-story/chapter in _The Martian Chronicles_. I'll have to read that, thanks. >The other is that the computer is describing the world that's left >after the character singing in "Runners" has no place left to >hide... kind of a cool sequel. > >"Little things break, circuitry burns..." Ha! I never thought of that...how cool! My favorite songs so far are "Looking Over Cliffs" and "Serenading Genius" but I like all of them (except "Roy" though I'll probably change my mind about it, just because of the great instrumental middle section). Vickie np: _Evocations_, Kevin Bartlett (The man is brilliant!) DIVX = GREED - Boycott Circuit City! ------------------------------ End of ecto-digest V4 #269 **************************