From: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org (ecto-digest) To: ecto-digest@smoe.org Subject: ecto-digest V4 #239 Reply-To: ecto@smoe.org Sender: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Tuesday, July 21 1998 Volume 04 : Number 239 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Our Pantheon (Toni Childs)/Lilith [Neal Copperman ] Re: Samson site is up! [WretchAwry ] HAPPYS TOUR [FAMarcus@aol.com] Emm, Holly M, Lilith in MD [Paul2k@aol.com] Re: Samson site is up! [Penta5@aol.com] Marillion ["Tim Finney" ] Re: Our Pantheon ["Tim Finney" ] Re: Our Pantheon [Steve Fagg ] Re: Samson site is up! [Dirk Kastens ] Dar Williams tour dates....even in Europe! [Riphug@aol.com] Male artists ["Tim Finney" ] Re: Our Pantheon ["Tim Finney" ] Re: Samson site is up! [larnep@pathfinder.com] If you like Happy..... [Riphug@aol.com] Re: Samson site is up! ["Tom Ditto" ] New Releases for July 21st [Riphug@aol.com] Re: Samson site is up! [Steve Fagg ] Re: Samson site is up! [Kim Justice ] Re: Male artists [charley darbo ] Re: Male artists [Michael Colford ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 23:42:36 -0400 (EDT) From: Neal Copperman Subject: Re: Our Pantheon (Toni Childs)/Lilith On Fri, 17 Jul 1998, jeffrey c. burka wrote: > > > steve wondered: > > Rats! How could I have forgotten Toni Childs too? I only have "House > > of Hope", but Toni definitely would enter my honourable mentions list > > if I had more albums that good by her. Powerful stuff! > > Dash out *now* and pick up _The Woman's Boat_. It's a brilliant concept > album that follows the course of a woman's life, from the womb to the > grave. Sort of like _Skylarking_ by XTC, only COMPLETELY different. > > And Peter Gabriel's influence is _all_ over it... Hmmm, maybe I should read a bit further ahead in my mailbox before I answer mail! And so this won't be a waste of time, here's a rundown on my musical weekend. 2 blocks from my house was Artscape, a huge 3-day free arts festival in the heart of Baltimore. It was pretty hot out, but not hot enough to stop 600,000 people from wandering through on Saturday (though I have no idea how they got those numbers). But my musical evening started with the arrival of Jelly's Pierced Tattoo from Detroit. I had seen them at Living Room Tour stop #10 (a mansion in Bel Air, LA). They blew the roof off the place, then rushed out to catch a plane home before the usual San Diego crowd hit the stage. They play what they have dubbed Funkternative music, a heady, catchy mish-mash of styles built around acoustic guitar, djembe, and a mix of male and female voices. They drove from Detroit to Baltimore, and the first thing they did upon arriving at my apartment was to take out their instruments and play a song, which sounded great with the hardwood floors and high ceilings. (I was thinking a glass of water or a trip to the bathroom might be somewhat more appropriate!) We spent the weekend doing guerrilla shows around Artscape and playing after a reggae band at a friends 40th birthday party. I had to laugh as I watched them play in front of a statue of Edgar Alan Poe in front of the law building of U of Baltimore, while strains of Roger Daltry and the Royal Symphonic Orchestra kept blasting around the curves of the Opera House. The next day was Lilith Fair. I made a quick run down to the Artscape to see a few minutes of Baaba Maal, but had to bail before Richard Thompson and Bela Flek came on. I was bummed I didn't leave sooner, since the "doors at 3, music at 4:30" advertisements were a bit of a lie. Amusingly, some of my friends were annoyed at arriving at 3:45 and not having anything on the main stage until after 5. Me, I was annoyed at arriving at 4:15 and missing two of the artists. Yes Steve, one of the one's I missed was Emm Gryner :( She was one of the people I most wanted to see at Lilith too, so I was really annoyed. When I came in, Holly McNarland was tearing up the second stage. It was a strange show to see outside, as it seemed like a killer club show that looked really out of place in broad daylight. I don't know Holly's stuff that well, but live it just seemed like straight ahead rock and roll - a ton of energy but not a drop of subtlety. I recall a bit more depth in the cursory listens I've done to the album. Then I saw Rebekah, who was a reasonably entertaining pop singer. Nothing I'd pay much attention too. A solid voice, a fun stage manner, and a killer version of the Stones "Get Off Of My Cloud". She was a last minute replacement for Beth Orton, who was the other primary draw for me at Lilith . I dashed back to the village stage and saw a strong folk-pop set by Kacy Crowley. It was hard for me to hear, but she seemed personable and the music was pretty good. Plus, she boldly stepped out in front of the mic to sing an unamplified song straight out into the small crowd, a gutsy move that impressed me as much as her set. (Plus, it sounded great.) I ran into J.D. Considine back there, and asked him if anything had struck him in the show so far. (Are you ready Steve?) He said Emm Gryner was just unbelievable. Certainly the best performer up til then. (In his review in the Sun he said "Kacy Crowley offered a spirited acoustic set, highlighted by a feisty rendition of "Hand to Mouthville," but it was Canadian Emm Gryner who seemed the day's greatest discovery. A strong writer and accomplished pianist, her singing had such emotional and melodic appeal that she was able to make songs like "Phonecall 45" and "Acid" seem instantly familiar -- even though her debut album, "Public," won't be released until tomorrow. ") Then Liz Phair performed a surprisingly strong set to kick off the main stage. I saw her stumble through a clumsy mess in support of Guyville, and was amazed at her assurance on the big stage. Naturally had some of the sharpest and rudest lines of the night, played stuff from Guyville, Whip Smart and the new one. Morcheeba closed out the second stage, and since I'd missed Emm, they were the find of the day for me. I'd never heard any of their music before, and I loved them. (J.D.'s review said they were the tightest band of the day, which was definitely the truth.) They were soooo slinky. A sly, playful subtle sound, close to trip-hop, but sounding a bit different too. The lead singer had her hair done up in funky horns with bright orange hair weaves wrapped all around them. And whenever she did something sort of strange, she'd give a "I can't really believe I'm doing this" grin. Then it was back to the main stage for the rest of the night. I was luke warm about going to Lilith, but I think if I'm going to do a show like that, I should make the effort to get exceptional seats. I'm glad I had seats at all, but it's so hard to get into a show from row QQ. And while all the monitors allowed you to see how expressive people like Natalie and Sarah were when singing, I hate watching large tv screens when I'm at a show! Anyway, Missy Elliott came up next, and uh, she sucked. She had a squad of kick ass dancers, but that was it. 2 guys dominated the mics, yelling HEY HEY HEY HEY throughout most of the show. Half the time was spent trying to work the crowd (Everyone on the right side yell "Hell Yeah!"), and there just wasn't anything to listen to. She couldn't have sung for more than 3 minutes, and rapped for maybe 2. I don't know what she's supposed to sound like, but this was pretty unbearable. After about 20 minutes, I just spent the rest of the set watching the crowd on the lawn with binoculars. (From J.D.'s review again "Missy Elliott, by contrast, emphasized showmanship, offsetting the relentless stomp of her rhythm section with elaborate costumes -- including the black balloon dress from her video for "The Rain (Supa Dupa Fly)" -- and intricate choreography." - whatever.) The Indigo Girls played what I thought was the most solid set of the night, mixing up crowd singalong versions of old hits with dramatic versions of new songs I didn't know. Plus, they had Jerry Marotta on drums and Jane Scarpantonionio's on Cello. Sarah came out to sing with them on something I didn't know, and I got my biggest laugh of the night when Kacy Crowley, Rebekah and Liz Phair joined them on The Band's "The Weight". The idea of Liz Phair, dancing and singing " Take a load off Fanny, take a load for free; Take a load off Fanny, And (and) (and) you can put the load right on me. " was just too much :) (From J.D. again "Could the former folk duo be on its way to becoming a jam band?") Natalie Merchant's set was a little erratic, but contained some of the most stirring moments of the evening. I can always count on her to pull something out that will move me to tears. I don't know her solo stuff, and she didn't play and Maniacs tunes, but had a lot of great moments. I thought the complicated and meandering arrangements didn't work that well in a festival environment, but it was great to watch her working the crowd (in a natural way, rather than the artificiality all over Missy Elliott's pals). Sarah closed out the show with a really solid set taken mostly from Surfacing. I haven't gotten into the album much. Actually, I just put it away and never listened to it, but some of the songs sounded great live. Angel and Sweet Surrender were notable standouts. She played a few hits from Fumbling, but nothing from the older albums. She was wearing the most amazing dress. It was a shoulderless deal that looked like a map of the world painted tightly onto her body - deep blues and dark greens, lush rich colors. SHe closed by inviting everyone from the day to come out and help out with What's Going On (which I don't know). It was great to hear Natalie and Sarah harmonizing. Wow! I noticed that no one from Missy Elliott's crowd or Morcheeba were there for the finale. (So, Jill, what did you think?) And finally, the next morning, I caught Anna Egge open up one of the Artscape Stages. I felt like I'd seen her name here sometime in the past, so when I saw her disc in the throwaway bins, I picked it up. That was a few weeks before Artscape, and I didn't even realize she was playing. One of my friends at Lilith said she opened for Shawn Colvin last year and was great. She did the solo guitar thing, and had a smoky kd lang-like voice, and clever story songs. I'd certainly go out of my way to see her again. Ok, I'm done now.... Neal np: Massive Attack - Mezzanine ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 00:55:15 -0400 (EDT) From: Neal Copperman Subject: reviewing the reviewers I spent some time looking at the Lilith coverage in the Baltimore Sun (http://www.sunspot.net) and Washington Post (http://www.washingtonpost.com) on-line, and I must say that the Post wins hands down. This wouldn't have surprised me, except that J.D. made a far better impresion at the fair than Richard Harrington of the Post. Talking with him after Kacy Crowley's set, I was impressed that he had studied the background on all the artists, and that he took notes one song per page, in a little notebook. Walking over to Liz Phair's set, we ran into Richard Harrington, who didn't seem in any hurry to catch any music, and had already missed most of the people who performed earlier. But while he glosses over the early stuff (if he missed it, it appears to not have happened. The review completely ignores the presence of the acts he failed to make.) But what is there is dead on (meaning that it agrees perfectly with what I think :) While the Sun has a nice link you can click to mail the article to a friend, the post has a whole Lilith gallery. INterviews with people before and at the show, descriptions of the village, reviews of the albums, backgrounds on the performers, and a fairly elaborate photo gallery from the show. Really a very impressive offering. I didn't see the print paper, but I can't imagine that they gave this much coverage in the newsprint, so it's pretty cool to see the on-line version stretching like that. Neal np: Massive Attack - Mezzanine (second time through, there is some amazing music on here! I got it because Liz Frasier is on it, and that's good enough for me. [That's a pantheon vote in my book] But so much of it is good. Another group I've never paid any attention too and now I'm wondering why.) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 23:47:30 -0500 From: WretchAwry Subject: Re: Samson site is up! At 07:23 PM 7/20/98 -0400, Robert Lovejoy wrote: >The title says it all! >http://www.samsonmusic.com Gee, really? All I get is insulted (because I don't have "Active X") and then a blank screen. No alts, no other way to access information, no nothing. A big, fat, rude, blank page. I guess I won't be seeing the Samson site anytime soon. Just like a large percentage of the people who'll go there (including most people with Netscape & Web TV). The designer has to go back to the drawing board and start over again. Bells and whistles are perfectly fine, *if* and only if the site's information is also viewable by everybody who doesn't care about the bells and whistles. I've been seeing this "only the design counts, the information doesn't" mindset for years and it only hurts the business, because people just looking for information won't come back. When you go into a store you're not told "you can't come in and look at the merchandise or ask questions unless you have this and this and this. Go get these things and then come back." Yet that's what's happening with hundreds of thousands of web sites that are there supposedly to sell something and/or provide information. It's a designer thing. Not a service-oriented thing. And usually, the designer's hurt feelings and defensive posturing ("well, then they should update their computer") are far more important than the curious/consumer. So nothing gets done, and everybody loses except the pleased-with-themselves designer. Prove me wrong Samson. Please, prove me wrong. Make the information that's there available to people like me. I'll even tell you how. I'll do it for FREE! Vickie (in a mood because I was looking forward to seeing the Samson site) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 01:16:47 EDT From: FAMarcus@aol.com Subject: HAPPYS TOUR I don't know if anyone knows this but in an email that i received from Happy she said that she believes that when in philly she will be at the TLA. I dont know if she was 100% sure at that time (last week). It seems a good fit as it holds about 1000 people and the sound is good. I want to stress that these are tentative plans fred marcus ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 01:04:48 EDT From: Paul2k@aol.com Subject: Emm, Holly M, Lilith in MD I had much fun at Lilith this past saturday and sunday in MD. Just getting to see and hear Emm Gryner, Holly McNarland, and Morcheeba on the side stages made the concerts worth the money. Throw in a surprisingly good performance by Liz Phair and the standard fun IG set, and it was a whale of a weekend. I saw Emm play at Starbucks on Saturday and videotaped the performance...seeing her live and listening to her album are two different worlds, but I appreciate the disc even more after experiencing her live again (first time i saw her was last year at the first Toronto Lilith). She performed Phonecall 45, This Mad, Summerlong, Acid, and (at my request on sunday) Hello Aquarius...what a gifted songwriter she is...JD Considine, the Baltimore Sun's music critic, said in a review that she was probably the day's greatest discovery :) Steve, she says hi...she was out and about the grounds the whole time on both days and was standing and dancing and singing with the crowd during Morcheeba's set. Holly McNarland...what can i say about her that i haven't already said. She only performed 4 songs (The Box, Numb, the New Song, Elmo) but made a lot of fans with her excruciatingly powerful performance. When the big jams happened on the main stage (first for Closer to Fine with IG and later after Sarah's set when everyone came out for Marvin Gaye's "What's Going On"), she was asked to sing a verse each time, but she didn't know the words and had to read them off of sheets of paper, but she still screwed up...it was quite amusing and she was having a ball. Liz Phair performed a LOT of songs from Exile in Guyville..."Explain it to Me", "6'1"", "Never Said", "Dance of the Seven Veils", "Divorce Song"...she also played "Supernova" and two tunes from the new album, one of which was "Polyester Bride"...the stage fright barely seemed to crop up... Sarah was disappointing. Nothing really new. And the live performance of "Black and White", my favorite track from _Surfacing_, was disheartening. If this is the best she and her band can do in bringing a song to life, then they shouldn't even try...*sigh*...I won't even go into how so many little things contributed to an uninspiring performance to my ears and eyes. oh, Steve I, i got the sarah slean cd...thanks! Paul "boxing it up and burying it in the ground" Kim ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 02:18:10 EDT From: Penta5@aol.com Subject: Re: Samson site is up! Hello all, In a fit of techno-masochism, I also went to Samson (Son of Sam) site. With a computer that doesn't know from double digit ram or triple digit frequency and aol software to boot, you should see what I captured on my screen !!! The first thirty or so lines that filled up the screen were nothing but code. To make matters worse, I turned of the graphics so my modem (actually a paper cup and string), wouldn't bog down. What it all turned out to be was a dozen or so rectangles of various sizes that required me to float over them with the pointer to see what they represented. When I linked to the tour page I was astounded at all the dates. As it turns out, these were of the other bands and Happy's section was nothing but a tease for future shows. I am always e-mailing web designers about avoiding the latest graphic codings. Only to be told, as Vickie was, that it's my fault for not getting the latest plug- in. I agree with Vickie that it serves no purpose other than to alienate those of us without these toys to move on to other companies that will offer a plain old html page to get our business. I wonder what the ratio is of the haves to the have nots ? Still and all I am glad for Happy in that maybe Samson is better at marketing records than designing pages. We can only hope ! :-) Thanks, Anna "Syncronicity is conformation that you are on the right path" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 19:48:46 +0000 From: "Tim Finney" Subject: Marillion - ---------- >From: "Jeffrey C. Burka" >To: ecto >Subject: Re: Our Pantheon >Date: Sun, Jul 19, 1998, 7:17 PM > >I suppose one of these days I'll have to get one of their more recent >albums. I loved everything through _Clutching at Straws_, and found >_Season's End_ to be so utterly dull that I stopped buying their >stuff altogether. (I did buy the first two Fish solo albums, but >never bothered with the disc of covers; has Dick released anything else >since then?) If you didn't like Season's End, then you probably wouldn't like the next album Holidays In Eden either, but the third album with Steve Hogarth, Brave, might be the place to rediscover the band. It's an excellent concept album, more progressive than the previous few albums, but also more intensely spiritual. The music and lyrics are top notch - much better use of the studio than on any previous release, more attention to detail, fantastic singing from Steve. Its also a very dense, dark, slow and quiet album - perfect for listening to at night with the lights off (as it instructs in the booklet) Also very worthy of investigation is the album following Brave, Afraid Of Sunlight. While not as "progressive" as Brave, it is more solid, and has some of the most intensely heartfelt music ever recorded to tape (Out Of This World is second only to Heart of Lothian for the emotional pull it has on me) The most recent album, This Strange Engine, is a bit of mixed bag stylistically, so I would recommend getting it only after you've tried one of the first two. By the way, Fish has recently released Suits (1994) and Sunsets On Empire (1997). The first is rather dull, but the second is the best Fish solo album IMHO. Coming hopefully later this year is a new Fish album called "Raingods With Zippos", and a new Marillion album is out September with the unimaginative name Maril10n (its their tenth album, dya geddit??!?) Tim ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 19:51:49 +0000 From: "Tim Finney" Subject: Re: Our Pantheon - ---------- >From: charley darbo >To: Tim Finney , ecto@smoe.org >Subject: Re: Our Pantheon >Date: Sun, Jul 19, 1998, 10:26 PM > > She's the creative offspring of Rickie Lee Jones, Thelonius Monk, >Bjork Gudmundsdottir, and Blossom Dearie. I understand Rickie and Bjork vocals-wise, and I a Rickie-influence musically (although if Bjork keeps refining herself in the same direction from Homogenic, she could end up very close to Stina), but I haven't a clue to who the others are. What are they like? Regards, Tim ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 11:23:50 +0100 (BST) From: Steve Fagg Subject: Re: Our Pantheon On Sun, 19 Jul 1998, Tim Finney wrote: > Stina Nordenstam - How come no-one knows how brilliant Stina is? After > releasing two excellent jazz/folk/pop albums worthy alone of a place in the > pantheon, she then released what has to be one of the most interesting and > awe-inspiring albums of the nineties in Dynamite. A totally original > creative spirit. Stina is pretty neat indeed! On the basis of the albums I have ("Memories of a Color" and "And She Closed Her Eyes" - presumably these are the "two excellent jazz/folk/pop albums" referred to) I'd put her in the good but not heavenly league. I find her highly original and very interesting - I especially like the timbre of her voice (in album-sized doses). Quintessential Ecto fare, what my wife refers to as "another Ecto waif"! Maybe if I had "Dynamite" too I'd rate her even more highly. I'm realising how I'm slipping behind here - so many artists whose most recent album I don't have. It's like living in a time-warp... Ecto, '95 vintage! Can't afford to buy the CDs, wouldn't have time to listen to them if I did. I'll be making an exception for Happy, of course, as I would for KaTe. In a way, it's rather like seeing the peleton disappearing off up the road! Guess I'll just freewheel for a bit and enjoy the sun. ;-) TTFN Steve npimh: Mendelssohn - Overture "A Midsummer Night's Dream" nr: nuffink - -- Steve Fagg (nightwol@dircon.co.uk) http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Metro/1313/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 12:57:42 +0200 From: Dirk Kastens Subject: Re: Samson site is up! Hi, just visited the samson site. Very nice graphics. The sound sample of Roy sounds very promising. Now I can't await to get the album. Dirk ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 07:46:12 EDT From: Riphug@aol.com Subject: Dar Williams tour dates....even in Europe! <> ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 22:09:49 +0000 From: "Tim Finney" Subject: Male artists - ---------- >From: "Suzanne Cerquone" >To: ecto@smoe.org >Subject: More on Marillion >Date: Mon, Jul 20, 1998, 8:07 PM > >Oh, and to continue on topic of ectophilic male artists: yes, Peter >Gabriel, but also add Robbie Robertson, Adrian Belew, XTC, Jeff Buckley and >Francis Dunnery. Another male artist I'd recommend is Scott Miller (OK officially he was front man of Game Theory and now The Loud Family, but he's the creative force). I've only just got into his music (thanks to a great review at The War Against Silence, but I'm finding it absolutely amazing. Certainly an innovative force, both musically and lyrically Other male-fronted bands I love are Puressence, The Chameleons, Radiohead, The Cure, The Auteurs, Talk Talk, Big Country, Sparklehorse, Smashing Pumpkins, Spiritualised, Simple Minds, U2, My Bloody Valentine, Pink Floyd, Joy Division/New Order, The The... (sigh) The list goes on... Curiously single male artists don't appeal to me especially, but we all have our idiosyncracies. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 22:14:29 +0000 From: "Tim Finney" Subject: Re: Our Pantheon - ---------- >From: Steve Fagg >To: Ectophiles Worldwide >Subject: Re: Our Pantheon >Date: Tue, Jul 21, 1998, 10:23 AM > >Stina is pretty neat indeed! On the basis of the albums I have >("Memories of a Color" and "And She Closed Her Eyes" - presumably >these are the "two excellent jazz/folk/pop albums" referred to) I'd >put her in the good but not heavenly league. I find her highly >original and very interesting - I especially like the timbre of her >voice (in album-sized doses). Quintessential Ecto fare, what my wife >refers to as "another Ecto waif"! Maybe if I had "Dynamite" too I'd >rate her even more highly. If you're unaware, Dynamite is a complete change of style for Stina. It's a dark industrial soundscape made out of scratchy guitars, blistering drums and swirling strings. The lyrics are depressing but fantastic. Definitely the best album of her career to date, although it takes some time getting used to. "It's me and you now and you're not on my side A night for planets, planes or souls to collide They say that light years might come back till they do It takes a desert to need someone like you" - Stina Nordenstam, CQD (Dynamite ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 08:42:03 -0400 (EDT) From: larnep@pathfinder.com Subject: Re: Samson site is up! > >And a lovely site it is. > > Mmmm. Aside from the minor detail that if your Web browser hasn't got the > Shockwave plugin installed you get a blank page. That's it. Nothing to > click on, no text, no pictures. You can't go any further. This cheesed me off as well, since the Shockwave pluggin doesn't even exist for Unix. But after looking at the html source I can say the fault is not entirely Samson's. They do correctly provide an alternate means of entry (a linked image, and the image even has a meaningful alt tag). The fault lies in browsers that don't handle properly. It works in Lynx. On the other hand, I'm not a big fan of bandwidth wasters like flash on home pages at all... - Larne ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 08:53:26 EDT From: Riphug@aol.com Subject: If you like Happy..... Did you see what CDNow's Album Advisor recommends if you like "Many Worlds Are Born Tonight"? Sarah McLachlan - Surfacing, Fumbling Towards Ecstasy Loreena McKennitt - The Book of Secrets Indigo Girls - Shaming of the Sun Tori Amos - From the Choirgirl Hotel Jonatha Brooke - Ten Cent Wings Milla - The Divine Comedy Cocteau Twins - Milk & Kisses and..... Chumbawamba - TubThumper Jamiroquai - Traveling Without Moving Huh? ;-) Jill :D ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 10:02:01 -0400 From: "Tom Ditto" <ditto@taconic.net> Subject: Re: Samson site is up! "Jeffrey C. Burka" <jburka@cqi.com> wrote: >(and I'd be more impressed if that spinning orb was actually >designed to *loop*) Me too, because the strobing effect does not visually express the style of Happy's music, although the globe graphic begins to suggest that it could with a little more work. I take heart in that the animation has the name: /img/happy_home/Test%201.gif Maybe after another 201 tests, they'll get it right. As for the rest of the site, I'm one of those with Wintel platforms and it all came in as designed under Netscape Communicator. I can even edit the pages using Composer. Tom ditto@taconic.net "Do you copy? Over" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 10:03:46 EDT From: Riphug@aol.com Subject: New Releases for July 21st <<******************* * ICE CD Releases * ******************* *Rock and Pop new releases* - -------------------------- - - 12 ROUNDS - My Big Hero (Nothing/Interscope) - - AMARI - Sunshine (Tommy Boy) - - ARNOLD - Hillside (ECD) (Creation/Columbia) - - BIC RUNGA - Drive (ECD) (Columbia) - - BIO RITMO - Rumba Baby Rumba (Triloka/Mercury) - - CANDLEBOX (w/new drummer Dave Krusen [ex-Pearl Jam]) - Happy Pills (produced by Ron Nevison) (Warner Bros.) - - CHOCOLATE OVERDOSE - Whatever (Bar None) - - COLOR ME BADD - Awakening (Epic) - - THE CROWD SCENE - Turn Left at Greenland (English pop rock) (eggBERT) - - DROWN - Product of a Two Faced World (Slipdisc/Mercury) - - EIGHTY MILE BEACH - Inclement Weather (trip hop) (OM) - - STEPHEN FEARING - Industrial Lullaby (Red House) - - FLYING LUTTENBACHERS - Destroy All Music (Skin Graft) - - GREY EYE GLANCES - Painted Pictures (Mercury) - - NANCI GRIFFITH - Other Voices, Too (A Trip Back to Bountiful) (ICE #135) (Elektra) - - KATE JACOBS - Hydrangea (Bar None) - - JD (Jermaine Dupree) - Life in 1492 (clean and explicit versions) (So So Def/Columbia) - - MARK LANEGAN (Screaming Trees singer) - Scraps at Midnight (ICE #134) (Sub Pop) - - LAUGHING US - Foxy Universe (Risk) - - LAUREL CANYON RAMBLERS - Back on the Street Again (Sugar Hill) - - GERALD LEVERT - Love & Consequences (EastWest/Elektra) - - LOVE IN REVERSE - Words Become Worms (Reprise) - - LOVE SPIRALS DOWN - Flux (Projekt) - - NX - Nation Unknown (Ruthless/Epic) - - THE RED TELEPHONE - The Red Telephone (Warner Bros.) - - TOM ROZUM - Jubilee (Signature Sounds) - - MICHAEL SHELLEY - Too Many Movies (Big Deal) - - SILKWORM - Blueblood (Touch and Go) - - SKINNY - The Weekend (Cheeke/Phase 4/Island) - - SPRING HEELED JACK - Songs from Suburbia (Ignition/Tommy Boy) - - THE SURFERS - Songs from the Pipe (Epic) - - SWIRL 360 - Ask Anybody (721/Mercury) - - TINA & THE B-SIDES - It's All Just the Same (Sire) - - VVV (Alan Vega and two members of Panasonic) - Endless (Blast First/Mute) - - Original soundtrack to "Dance with Me" (w/Gloria Estefan, Gipsy Kings, Jon Secada, et al.) (Epic) - - Original soundtrack to "Psycho Sisters" (w/Groovie Ghoulies, The Queers, et al.) (Oglio) - - Original soundtrack to "The Parent Trap" (starring Dennis Quaid and Natasha Richardson) (Hollywood) - - Original soundtrack to "The Wedding Singer II" ('80s new wave) (Warner Bros.) *Rock and Pop reissues* - ----------------------- - - AMERICA - Alibi; Perspective; Silent Letter; and Your Move (One Way) - - DUANE EDDY - Twangin' Up a Storm/Twangsville (two-fer) (One Way) - - CHARLIE FEATHERS - Get with It: Essential Recordings 1954- 1969 (two CDs) (Revenant) - - THE KINGBEES - Vols. I & 2 (two-fer) (Oglio) - - LONG RYDERS - Looking for Lewis & Clark: The Anthology (two CDs) (Chronicles) - - MANOWAR - Best of (Mayhem) - - DON MCLEAN - American Pie (gold disc) (Mobile Fidelity) - - Various artists "Lost and Found: The Blue Rock Records Story" (two CDs) (Chronicles) - - Various artists "Sex-O-Rama Vol. 2" (Oglio) *Blues reissues* - ---------------- - - JUNIOR PARKER - I'm So Satisfied: The Complete Mercury and Blue Rock Recordings (78-minute collection with unreleased material) (Mercury/Chronicles) - - JUNIOR WELLS - Live at the Golden Bear; and Tuff Enough (latter with bonus singles and four unreleased songs) (Mercury/Chronicles) - - BIG MAMA THORNTON - The Way It Is (Mercury/Chronicles) - - Various artists - "Lost and Found: The Blue Rock Recordings Story" (ICE #132) (Mercury/Chronicles) - - MEADE LUX LEWIS - Cat House Piano (Verve) - - HOMESICK JAMES - Sweet Home Tennessee (Kicking Mule/Fantasy) - - FRANK FROST - Deep Blues (both reissues of 1992 albums on Appaloosa) (Kicking Mule/Fantasy) - - STEFAN GROSSMAN - Bottleneck Serenade (Kicking Mule/Fantasy) *Country new releases* - ---------------------- - - THE LAUREL CANYON RAMBLERS - Back on the Street Again (Sugar Hill) - - JIM MILLS - Bound to Ride (Sugar Hill) - - NASHVILLE BLUEGRASS BAND - American Beauty (Sugar Hill) - - SPLIT LIP RAYFIELD - Split Lip Rayfield (Bloodshot) *Country reissues* - ------------------ - - JOHNNY PAYCHECK - Mr. Hag Told My Story (Koch) - - TOM T. HALL - Places I've Done Time (Koch) *Jazz new releases* - ------------------- - - ELLIOT SHARP'S TECTONICS - Field and Stream (Knitting Factory Works) - - THE HEADHUNTERS - Return of the Headhunters (ICE #135) (Hancock/Verve) - - OK NOK...KONGO - Plays Agergaard and Tchicai (Storyville) - - DJANGO BATES - Like Life (Storyville) - - EDMOND HALL - At Club Hangover (Storyville) - - TUBBY HAYES QUARTET - In Scandinavia (Storyville) - - JIMMY ROWLES - Subtle Legend Vol. One (Storyville) - - GLENN FERRIS - Refugees (Enja) - - NILS WOGRAM - Speed Life (Enja) - - BILL HOLMAN AND THE METROPOLE ORCHESTRA - Further Adventures (Koch) - - NICK BRIGNOLA AND THE METROPOLE ORCHESTRA - Spring Is Here (Koch) *Jazz reissues* - --------------- - - COUNT BASIE - Live at the Sands (Before Frank) (Reprise) - - GLORIA LYNNE - Starry Eyes: The Collection (Verve) - - ARTHUR PRYSOCK - Morning, Noon and Night: The Collection (Verve) - - WILLIE BOBO - Juicy (Verve) - - BOB JAMES - Bold Conceptions (Verve) - - SARAH VAUGHAN - Sings the Mancini Songbook (Verve) - - COUNT BASIE - Basie's Beatle Bag (Verve) - - JACK TEAGARDEN - Think Well of Me (Verve Elite) - - ED THIGPEN - Out of the Storm (Verve Elite) - - ALAN SHORTER - Orgasm (Verve Elite) - - BUDDY DEFRANCO AND OSCAR PETERSON - Play Gershwin (Verve Elite) - - YUSEF LATEEF - Before Dawn (Verve Elite) - - Best of collections from EARL KLUGH and JOE SAMPLE (Warner Bros.) - - Various artists - "XRCD2 Sampler" (JVC XRCD2) - - JOHN COLTRANE - Settin' the Pace (JVC XRCD2) - - MODERN JAZZ QUARTET - Concorde (JVC XRCD2) New and reissued Compact Disc releases are provided by ICE Magazine, a leader in Compact Disc news. For a taste of the printed publication, visit ICE On-Line at www.icemagazine.com. (C) 1998 by Howard Communications, Inc. *Information subject to change. >> ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 15:21:25 +0100 (BST) From: Steve Fagg <nightwol@dircon.co.uk> Subject: Re: Samson site is up! On Mon, 20 Jul 1998 Horter!!!! wrote: > I would hate to try to view this in any sort of text-only browser. I read it in Lynx 2.6 and it's yukky but it *is* useable. Those of us who persist in trying to use the Web with text-only browsers have had to become rather adept at negotiating the graphics-oriented sites that make up a large (and growing) proportion of the total. At least this one can be used, some are utterly impenetrable! What disappoints me more is that there is so little *content* there! Perhaps not being seduced by the (allegedly) nifty graphics makes me more concerned with the information available, and it's almost negligible. I've added the site to (the bottom of) the list of Happy Rhodes links on my page, but my recommendation for up-to-the-minute information remains Sharon's Terra Incognita site. I don't expect a record company site to be constructed with the loving attention to detail of a fan site (of which Vickie's is quite exemplary) but really I would have expected Samson to have a lot more to say about an artist on their roster. I'd give them 3 out of 10. > I hope they improve in the future... Amen to *that*! In the meantime... http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Studios/3450/terra.html http://web.wwa.com/~vickie/happy/happy.html http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/rhodes.happy.html http://www.smoe.org/ecto/ ...rule! TTFN Steve npimh: Mendelssohn - Overture "A Midsummer Night's Dream" nr: nuffink - -- Steve Fagg (nightwol@dircon.co.uk) http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Metro/1313/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 09:30:53 -0500 (CDT) From: Kim Justice <justicek@edge.net> Subject: Re: Samson site is up! On Mon, 20 Jul 1998, frater tot wrote: > > audio sampleaudio sample > > tour dates audio sampleaudio sample > > biography > > biography how to buy > > contact Happy how to buy > > how to buycontact Happy > > contact Happy You are in a maze of twisty little links, all alike. You are in a twisty maze of little links, all alike. You are in a little maze of twisty links, all alike. kj - --justicek@edge.net (Kim Justice) http://edge.edge.net/~justicek Radiant and terrified, they fall. -- Anna Domino ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 09:49:06 -0700 (PDT) From: charley darbo <lissener@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Male artists - ---Tim Finney <afinney@ozonline.com.au> wrote: > > > > Other male-fronted bands I love are Puressence, The Chameleons, Radiohead, > The Cure, The Auteurs, Talk Talk, Big Country, Sparklehorse, Smashing > Pumpkins, Spiritualised, Simple Minds, U2, My Bloody Valentine, Pink Floyd, > Joy Division/New Order, The The... (sigh) The list goes on... Curiously > single male artists don't appeal to me especially, but we all have our > idiosyncracies. Spiritualized! Spiritualized! Spiritualized! Spiritualized! Spiritualized! Spiritualized! Amazing, amazing album: _Ladies_and_Gentlemen,_We_Are_Floating_in_Space_. _Pure_Phase_ is also just an astounding recording. Drop what you're doing and go buy them. Also, of course, first and foremost, Jeff Buckley. And Rufus Wainwright (still plan to post about his amazing show the other night, soon's I can spare the attention it deserves), Blue Nile. Any Ectophile who hasn't heard these artists needs to find a way to do so right away. Blue Nile makes me think of Jane Siberry. Rufus Wainwright makes me think of Victoria Williams. Jeff Buckley makes me think of _everything_. Other kind-of-Ectopian male artists: Deux Filles; Paddy Bush/Colin Lloyd Tucker, in whatever combination or manifestation they're in this week; David Bowie; Trent Reznor; John Adams; Tricky; Mick Harvey; Nick Cave; and, non-Ectopian in the extreme, but twisted geniuses nonetheless; BEASTIE BOYS! - --charley n.p. Beastie Boys: _Hello_Nasty_; next up is Astrud Gilberto's _Look_to_the_Rainbow_ n.r. William Carlos Williams: _The_American_Grain_. Not poems: his take on American history. Much of it is told as first-person narratives. Beautiful, beautiful stuff. _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 12:53:00 -0400 (EDT) From: Michael Colford <colford@noblenet.org> Subject: Re: Male artists On Tue, 21 Jul 1998, charley darbo wrote: > Spiritualized! Spiritualized! Spiritualized! Spiritualized! Which made me think of the Canadian band, Spirit of the West! > Also, of course, first and foremost, Jeff Buckley. And Rufus > Wainwright (still plan to post about his amazing show the other night, Just got Rufus' CD and have to agree it's pretty great. > Other kind-of-Ectopian male artists: > > Trent Reznor; Gotta love that Trent! I'd also like to add Neil Finn and all his related projects (Crowded House, Split Enz, Tim Finn etc.) His new solo album is terrific, branches out beyond the great pop masterpieces of Crowded House. That's just off the top of my head. There are lots more. Michael, n.p. Talking to Animals - Manhole n.r. Re-reading The Book of Atrix Wolfe by Patricia McKillip (truly the most masterful fantasy writer who ever lived. I am just drowning in her prose!) - -------------------------------------------------------------------- Michael Colford | Reading Public Library Head of Technical Services | Reading, Massachusetts colford@noblenet.org | *North of Boston Library Exchange* - -------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ End of ecto-digest V4 #239 **************************