From: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org (ecto-digest) To: ecto-digest@smoe.org Subject: ecto-digest V4 #235 Reply-To: ecto@smoe.org Sender: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Saturday, July 18 1998 Volume 04 : Number 235 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Boys For Pele [charley darbo ] Re: Personal Pantheon [Penta5@aol.com] Re: Personal Pantheon [charley darbo ] volcanos versus earthquakes [dmw ] Mary Lou Lord preggers? [queen of carrot flowers ] RE:Random remark: Patty Griffin (long concert review) ["Charlie Sweeney" ] Re: Personal Pantheon [JavaHo@aol.com] Mary Lou is 5 months along [Rachel Kramer Bussel ] Detroit, Rock City... [JavaHo@aol.com] Re: Personal Pantheon [Joseph Zitt ] Re: Our Pantheon [Joseph Zitt ] Re: lanterna tour dates! [Joseph Zitt ] Re: huh?! [Joseph Zitt ] Re: Bayou info anyone? [Joseph Zitt ] Comma Performance Tonight in DC [Joseph Zitt ] Nick Drake [Neile Graham ] Re: Patty G.(long...review)--short reply [JavaHo@aol.com] Bonton?? [Neile Graham ] Pantheon for EctoGuide [Neile Graham ] Kate Bush CD finally here! [Neile Graham ] used/new music buys, ani on vh1? [Melissa Barberer ] Splendid; Dates of Note [deanorez@juno.com (G Perez)] Tucson Ectophiles [WretchAwry ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 00:25:37 -0700 (PDT) From: charley darbo Subject: Re: Boys For Pele - ---Andrew Fries wrote: > > > Well that only goes to show how often when we talk about music we really talk > about ourselves. Hear hear. I think it's _much,_much_ easier to understand why someone likes an artist you like than why they dislike an artist you like; or dislike/dislike than like/dislike. (Yes, perhaps the most obvious statement ever expressed on Ecto.) When you like an artist in common, you sometimes don't even need to fully explain why; fellow fans are like old lovers and have the annoying ability to finish one anothers' sentences. But the extremes of differing opinion is fascinating. I simply cannot understand how someone cannot be enthralled and amazed and impressed with the art movement that is Bjork, while at the same time I feel like I'm in the tiniest minority on Ecto in believing that liking [fill in the blank] is incontrovertible evidence of having been abducted and replaced by aliens. Some artists are somehow more understandable: I've bought three out of four Tori albums, lovd each one at first, grew to dislike each one intensely, but still usually bought the next one. Diamanda I can understand, though I have the deepest pity for those who've shut themselves off from her magnificence. But all of us, as people who have often heard such things as "I can't stand Kate Bush's voice" from those ecto to Ecto, know exactly what I'm talking about. > Some people, you just wanna headbutt them > in the hope of direct data download.... That's what I'm _sayin_. - --charley _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 03:34:25 EDT From: Penta5@aol.com Subject: Re: Personal Pantheon Hello I am still curious if any on the list is familiar with Nick Drake ? Anna ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 01:22:27 -0700 (PDT) From: charley darbo Subject: Re: Personal Pantheon - ---Penta5@aol.com wrote: > > Hello > I am still curious if any on the list is familiar with Nick Drake ? > > Anna > Familiar, impressed; not intimate yet. I have no objection to his music, I just haven't gotten around to it yet. - --ch _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 08:51:05 -0400 (EDT) From: dmw Subject: volcanos versus earthquakes there's one of those goofy meme things floating around the 'net about how an artist's first album is for the artist, the second one is for the artist's people, and the third one is for everybody. like anything of comparable simplification it's a notion riddled with holes, and tori amos's career to date is as nice a refutation as i've ever seen. _little earthquakes_ seemed much more like an album for everybody. not that it's not an intensely personal record, but it's (-- beware i'm going to get a wee bit new-agey on y'all, mark yer calendars, this doesn't happen often --) a record that opens itself to its listeners. its accessability is immediate. it's not the least bit hard to feel the emotional impact of the songs. i remember vividly the first time i listened to it; i was just jaw-drop stunned. _boys for pele_ is also an intensely personal record, but far less open in the sense i'm trying to convey. (this is more structural than lyrical, btw) the first several times i listened to "pele", i had the impression that there were several finished songs and tons of unfinished, half-baked germs of songs, of widely varying quality. (at this point i would have agreed with the term "masturbatory," or at least "self-indulgent") for me the turning point was dubbing a heap of copies of an acoustic performance for people; with repeated exposure to those songs, stripped down to just vocal and piano, something clicked -- like when you look at those cubes and they pop in and out? -- snapping into a new perspective, and suddenly songs that had seemed meandering, unfocused, unstructured -- made sense. i think in a tiny way, i got into tori's head, seeing aspects of the songs from the same perspective as their author. armed with this revelation, i went back to the record, and suddenly i found an awful lot more than had been there for me before. "pele"'s lyrics also use a more personal iconography than "earthquake's," but the real barrier to my appreciation of the record was the unfinishedness of it that i initially perceived. if i'd never heard the acoustic performances, i'd probably still be in the "ehhh...." camp. as it as, i think "earthquake" is the superior record, but by a pretty slim margin. i haven't spent nearly enough time with "hotel" to solidify my impressions of it. there's lots that i love about "under...," don't get me wrong, but i think in several ways it's a lesser work than either "earthquakes" or "pele." this may open a hideous can of worms, but i'm sorta intrigued that the first round of posters on this topic seem, implicitly, to agree. - -- d. n.p. mick harvey _pink elephants_ - - oh,no!! you've just read mail from doug = dmayowel@access.digex.net - - and dmw@mwmw.com ... get yr pathos at http://www.pathetic-caverns.com/ - - new reviews! tunes, books, flicks, etc. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 15:22:26 -0400 (EDT) From: queen of carrot flowers Subject: Mary Lou Lord preggers? Sorry, can't remember if I read it here or somewhere else, but I'm sure someone on this list could answer this question. I read on one of the millions and millions of mailing lists to which I subscribe that Mary Lou Lord was pregnant. Is this true? How official is this news, and who's the father? Sorry, that was just the gossip in me sneaking out... - --C. - ---- Chelsea, the mod pixie home: away: tugboat@channel1.com odyshape@hotmail.com "the only thing I want to do is make a great, big, fat story in my own language and really have people throwing up and driving cars fast." -- Hal Hartley, on _Henry Fool_ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 10:29:08 -4000 From: "Charlie Sweeney" Subject: RE:Random remark: Patty Griffin (long concert review) Hi ectophiles, Neil K. Guy wrote: > . There weren't that many people standing at the front of > the dance floor area - most of the crowd were sitting and standing around > the edges, like there was this invisible line that the audience dared not > cross, and they didn't want to too close to the stage or something. Odd. I had the chance to see Patty last week at WXPN singer/songwriter weekend, an outdoor event by the Delaware River in Philadelphia. A crowd of over 10,000 had the opportunity to see Patty, as well as local artist Mary Arden Collins, James McMurtry, Moxy Fruvous, and Francis Dunnery- a six hour show for a paltry $5. Patty followed James McMurtry, who put on an excellent set, showing what a three piece band was capable of. With a bass player and drummer in support he put on an excellent display of guitar playing in an alternative mode. His style is distinctive, and very powerful. His tunes are lyrically rich, sometimes quite cynical. When Patty took the stage it was immediately apparent that a love affair was in the making. Her set was almost entirely composed of tunes from her new CD _Flaming Red_ and was fearlessly and flawlessly executed. You could feel the energy radiating from Patty, even 8 rows back where I was sitting. People on the side of the stage danced thru the entire set in the 90 degree heat and high humidity. On gentleman at the front of the crowd was excorted away because he refused to sit down obstructing the view for others. By the end of the set, that wasn't even an issue anymore. Patty only picked up a guitar for a few numbers, instead dancing around the stage during instrumental breaks, enjoying the moment. Her rendition of _Tony_ left me with tears streaming down my face. Sometimes she was leading the band, which was totally in sync both with her and with each other. She memtioned they had had some glitches on the way 9her bus broke and they n- missed a gig a few days earlier) and that they were declaring this the beginning of the tour. She was obviously pleased with the recption. When the crowd absolutely insisted on an encore (the only act to get one-usually not done at this event) she said she now knew why she slept in vans! Her rendition of _Mary- brought another long standing "O". At the meet and greet afterwards, Patty went overboard in talking to the folks lined up for autographs and still had a mile wide grin on her face. The whole band hung out with her and they were all chatty and excited. When I said there was only one thing wrong with their set, they all chimed in in unison with me "It was too short" and broke up laughing. Guess that wasn't an original thought on this day :-/ Other notes: Mary Arden Collins showed a lot of promise in her first major gig. She works locally in the PA, DE, MD area. A beautiful voice and reasonably good chops on guitar. Francis Dunnery: great player, great tunes, really funny guy. A sweetheart at the meet and greet. Moxy Fruvous- it was obvious that much of the crowd was here to see the Fru boys. I loved these guys the first few times I heard them but the originality factor is rapidly diminishing into cover-band hell. If I have to hear King of Spain one more time I'm going to commit regicide. Of course, if they continue with their prima donna ways, as evidenced at last year's Philly Folk Fest, and this years Appel Farm fest, where they refused to relinquish the stage (running late due to a serious accident on the sound crew- the main techie took a header off the speaker stack-about a 2 1/2 story drop) and played another 8 tunes before getting off, we may not be seeing them in Philly much in the near future. This little act of arrogance cause other performers to have their sets cut to the bone. Karen Savoca was cut to a paltry three tunes. And she plays some fairly serious music. But she handled it like a pro. More than I can say for the bad boys of novelty music. So from a volunteer at a lot of festivals to the Fru boys-You ain't the Beatle's- you ain't the Kinks- a little humility is in order. And write something more original- no one likes to hear the same joke a hundred times, with the possible exception of my 7 yr old. And he don't buy no albums. Yeah, I know the Fru-heads will hate to read this, and I guess it's OK to mistreat the folks at the hospitality tent (not me, by the way) and generally be a pain in the ass to the organizers. When your attitude as a musician allows you to treat other musicians with discourtesy, you need a reality check. Charlie Sweeney (=}===# Virtual Guitarist-Something Black charlies@voicenet.com http://www.voicenet.com/~charlies "Caught in my struggle for higher achievement and my search for love, that don't seem to cease" ...Joni Mitchell ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 10:48:08 EDT From: JavaHo@aol.com Subject: Re: Personal Pantheon Anna asks: << I am still curious if any on the list is familiar with Nick Drake ? >> Yes...we went through a brief Nick Drake thread about 2-3 months ago. As I recall there were comparisons to Jeff Buckley and Sandy Denny. Several folks liked his music. Cheers...Java ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 11:14:59 -0400 (EDT) From: Rachel Kramer Bussel Subject: Mary Lou is 5 months along Mary Lou had posted to her AOL folder several months ago about her pregnancy, and I saw her do a show last night and she announced that sh'es 5 months pregnant from the stage. She looks really great and seems real happy, and is doing some solo shows now along the East Coast and then 8 Lilith dates in August. I'm going to interview her at some point for BUST magazine so if you have an pressing questions you can email me. For those in NYC, she is opening for Simply Red at Battery Park this Sunday and it's $10, but I will warn you she's only doing a half hour set. So yes, she is pregnant, it's not just a rumor: it's true! :) Rachel ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 12:55:06 EDT From: JavaHo@aol.com Subject: Detroit, Rock City... ...or something like that. Anyway...I am going to be flying to Detroit tomorrow to see an old friend who lives in Rochester Hills. I'll be there through Wednesday night. If any Michigan ectos know of nifty shows that might be happening, please let me know. I will have internet access while I'm there, so feel free to e-mail me privately. Thanks!!! Lisa ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 13:30:09 -0400 From: Joseph Zitt Subject: Re: Personal Pantheon Jeffrey C. Burka wrote: > Don't look at ME, Jeff, that was Joe Zitt who's posted TWICE now about > his Mel Blanc / Happy Rhodes conflation... Whoops, sorry, I wasn't sure I'd said that before. Whoops, sorry, I wasn't sure I'd said that before. - -- - ---------1---------1---------1---------1---------1---------1---------- |||/ Joseph Zitt ===== jzitt@humansystems.com ===== Human Systems \||| ||/ Maryland? = <*> SILENCE: The John Cage Mailing List <*> = ecto \|| |/ http://www.realtime.net/~jzitt ====== Comma: Voices of New Music \| ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 13:24:59 -0400 From: Joseph Zitt Subject: Re: Our Pantheon meredith wrote: > >Dar Williams would be there, but I just can't worship a person whose > >senior thesis I watched. > > I know I watched it but I don't remember one thing about it save > that I was there, so I guess that doesn't count for me. Senior thesis? /me scratches his head. - -- - ---------1---------1---------1---------1---------1---------1---------- |||/ Joseph Zitt ===== jzitt@humansystems.com ===== Human Systems \||| ||/ Maryland? = <*> SILENCE: The John Cage Mailing List <*> = ecto \|| |/ http://www.realtime.net/~jzitt ====== Comma: Voices of New Music \| ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 13:00:24 -0400 From: Joseph Zitt Subject: Re: lanterna tour dates! frater tot wrote: > > >July 20 Washington, DC - Tower Records - 12:30pm > > 2000 Pennsylvania Ave - (202) 331-2400 > > Gaithersburg, MD - Borders - 7pm > > Gaithersburg Square, 534 N Frederick Unless I have a rehearsal (I'll know after tonight), I'll be at the Gaithersburg gig, since it's across the street from my office. Anyone else planning to be there? - -- - ---------1---------1---------1---------1---------1---------1---------- |||/ Joseph Zitt ===== jzitt@humansystems.com ===== Human Systems \||| ||/ Maryland? = <*> SILENCE: The John Cage Mailing List <*> = ecto \|| |/ http://www.realtime.net/~jzitt ====== Comma: Voices of New Music \| ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 13:20:58 -0400 From: Joseph Zitt Subject: Re: huh?! PunkaPixie@aol.com wrote: > > That's really funny too because when I put in The Voluptuous Horror of Karen > Black (which is hardcore punk) they said I would love Gloria Estefan's new > album "Gloria!" > > Wow.. when did she get in touch with her punk roots? Argh! Now I have playing in my head a bizarre mix of Patti Smith's version of "Gloria" with pop-Latin percussion and horns. Please, mommy, make it stop!-) BTW, seeing as people here have access to the most wide-ranging knowledge of vaguely popular music around: A few days ago I heard a gorgeous (sp?) slow rendition of, of all things, Bobby Brown's "My Prerogative", done mostly in Spanish. Anyone know what/who that was? - -- - ---------1---------1---------1---------1---------1---------1---------- |||/ Joseph Zitt ===== jzitt@humansystems.com ===== Human Systems \||| ||/ Maryland? = <*> SILENCE: The John Cage Mailing List <*> = ecto \|| |/ http://www.realtime.net/~jzitt ====== Comma: Voices of New Music \| ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 13:07:36 -0400 From: Joseph Zitt Subject: Re: Bayou info anyone? jeffrey c. burka wrote: > > > What kind of place is the Bayou (how large, general admission, etc) and > > where exactly is it located? I'm thinking of making Heather's show later > > this month. Thanks to anyone with info. > > The Bayou is at the very southern edge of Georgetown, along the Potomac. > As I recall, go to where Wisconsin ends at the river, hang a left, and > it's a block or so over. > > It's a fairly small club, a stage with a dance floor in front of it, and > then tables around that. While I haven't been there as an audience member, I very much enjoyed performing there: the sound was excellent, the people working there were really positive and on the ball, and even the lighting guy was doing some very cool improvisations during our spacier stuff. I don't get out to clubs much (at all? the only one I've been to is the Metro Cafe where I saw Iva Bittova) but it struck me as a good one. - -- - ---------1---------1---------1---------1---------1---------1---------- |||/ Joseph Zitt ===== jzitt@humansystems.com ===== Human Systems \||| ||/ Maryland? = <*> SILENCE: The John Cage Mailing List <*> = ecto \|| |/ http://www.realtime.net/~jzitt ====== Comma: Voices of New Music \| ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 13:43:47 -0400 From: Joseph Zitt Subject: Comma Performance Tonight in DC This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - --------------DB829EFF465AF8DCD0BD5AE9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Argh -- I just realised that I hadn't posted about either of these events to either Socks or ecto. It's a bit late for the afternoon event, seeing as it starts in about an hour, but if any of you are free in DC this evening, our performance may interest you. We're playing with an *amazing* percussionist from Philadelphia, Toshi Makihara, so anything can happen... - -- - ---------1---------1---------1---------1---------1---------1---------- |||/ Joseph Zitt ===== jzitt@humansystems.com ===== Human Systems \||| ||/ Maryland? = <*> SILENCE: The John Cage Mailing List <*> = ecto \|| |/ http://www.realtime.net/~jzitt ====== Comma: Voices of New Music \| - --------------DB829EFF465AF8DCD0BD5AE9 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Received: from mail1.realtime.net (mail1.realtime.net [205.238.128.217]) by zoom.bga.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id PAA05153 for ; Fri, 17 Jul 1998 15:37:47 -0500 Received: (qmail 9606 invoked by alias); 17 Jul 1998 20:37:46 -0000 Delivered-To: vm-humansystems-com-jzitt@humansystems.com Received: (qmail 9588 invoked from network); 17 Jul 1998 20:37:44 -0000 Received: from xfiles.gsfc.nasa.gov (128.183.243.2) by mail1.realtime.net with SMTP; 17 Jul 1998 20:37:44 -0000 Received: (from kargatis@localhost) by xfiles.gsfc.nasa.gov (8.8.6/8.8.6) id QAA28522 for jzitt@humansystems.com; Fri, 17 Jul 1998 16:37:28 -0400 (EDT) From: Vince Kargatis Message-Id: <199807172037.QAA28522@xfiles.gsfc.nasa.gov> Subject: DCIMPROV: Comma - Sat, Jul 18 Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 16:37:27 -0400 (EDT) To: jzitt@humansystems.com X-Mailer: fastmail [version 2.4 PL25] X-Status: Press release from Comma: - -- comma:summer::new:music continues with: A Summer Listening Day: listening, creativity, improvisation Saturday July 18 3:00 - 5:00 PM, $10 donation (includes admission to Sonic Art Muses Words at 8 pm, same venue) Ruthless Grip Art Project 1508 U St NW Washington, DC 20009 nr. U St Metro (green line) info: 202 546 1477 Composer/performer/teacher Tom Bickley leads a two hour workshop on listening as a mindfulness practice and a process for enhancing creativity. Participants will learn various exercises to discern sounds in the environment and explore the acoustics of the room and of their own imaginations. Experiencing the intersection of listening and sounding, they will draw on various improvised music traditions to make music together. These practices grow from timeless cultural traditions and have been studied and taught in recent years by Pauline Oliveros, Don Campbell and others. Their work combines a love of sound, the creative process and care for our acoustic environment. For more information on A Summer Listening Day, contact: Tom Bickley at 202-546-1477 or via email to tbickley@artswire.org Since 1995, Tom Bickley has studied with composer Pauline Oliveros using "Deep ListeningTM" techniques, which she describes "as a meditative exploration of listening and sounding, designed to help people gain flexibility in as many forms of listening as possible." Bickley is a founding member of Comma, teaches at Capitol Hill Arts Workshop, and assists with the multicultural liturgical music at St. Stephen and the Incarnation Episcopal Church. He has performed in DC area productions of Ione's Njinga the Queen King and at the SonicWorks New Music Festival at DiverseWorks Artspace in Houston, collaborated with the Denison/Kimball Trio for their CD Neutrons, and been the featured composer on the Avant-Garde program on KPFT-FM, Pacifica Radio in Houston. In May he performed with the Scratch Orchestra in Cornelius Cardew's The Great Learning at the London Musician's Collective's Festival of Experimental Music. AND that same evening: Sonic Art Muses Words Saturday July 18 8:00 PM, $5 donation Ruthless Grip Art Project 1508 U St NW Washington, DC 20009 nr. U St Metro (green line) info: 301 441 4603 DC's new music trio Comma (Tom Bickley, Matt Davis and Joe Zitt) with Philadelphia percussionist Toshi Makihara offer an evening of acappella avant-garde vocal improvisations, original compositions, performance poetry and percussion playing that moves into the realm of dance. Washington premieres on this concert include "Babblelawn" and "Explortions," both by Matthew Ross Davis, and "...on a broad, white feather from a stork's wing..." by Joseph Zitt. Toshi Makihara is noted for his remarkable solo and ensemble work in free-jazz venues in New York, Philadelphia and Baltimore. Using found objects, home-made instruments and traditional percussion, Makihara's work engages the audience visually as well as sonically. "My movement is simply an integral process of creating sounds." Improvisations performed in Sonic Art Muses Words will incorporate ambience from the soundscape of U St NW, embracing the urban environment and transforming it for the pleasure of listeners and performers alike. This approach stems from the close association of members of Comma with composer/performer/teacher Pauline Oliveros and her pioneering work in the practice she describes as Deep ListeningTM, as well as Toshi Makihara's work in integrating performance and context. * tbickley@artswire.org "New music: new listening" -John Cage * * www.artswire.org/tbickley - --------------DB829EFF465AF8DCD0BD5AE9-- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 12:04:17 -0700 From: Neile Graham Subject: Nick Drake Penta5@aol.com wrote: >Hello > I am still curious if any on the list is familiar with Nick Drake ? > >Anna Anna, I'm a Nick Drake fan and have been since I first heard about him in the late 70s. Several times on the list he has been mentioned as a huge influence on a lot of the artists we love, and has also been mentioned in his own right. He's certainly going to be included in The Ectophiles' Guide to Good Music when we get to finishing up the Ds. Or maybe earlier if someone wants particularly to take on getting the entry together (hint hint). Anyway, is there something about him you particularly want to talk about? Certainly anyone interested in the origins of the contemporary singer/songwriter tradition and much of pop should know his name and his work. Just as they should know Sandy Denny's, too! While I love his work, he's not necessarily in my top favourites. My expanded pantheon of people whose work I know I'll continue to listen to forever definitely includes him. - --Neile - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Neile Graham ..... http://www.sff.net/people/neile ..... neile@sff.net The Ectophiles' Guide to Good Music .... http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 16:22:19 EDT From: JavaHo@aol.com Subject: Re: Patty G.(long...review)--short reply Charlie Sweeney quotes: << "Caught in my struggle for higher achievement and my search for love, that don't seem to cease" ...Joni Mitchell >> ::swoon:: "Same Situation" is my all-time favourite Joni tune. npimh... ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 14:28:38 -0700 From: Neile Graham Subject: Bonton?? woj wrote: >n.p. bonton (caterwaul in disguise -- more details as i remember them) C'mon, woj, push that memory a little harder. I'm waiting breathlessly for those details! Caterwaul! Betsy Martin said she was expecting to release something new shortly with Purr Machine, but what's bonton?? - --Neile - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Neile Graham ..... http://www.sff.net/people/neile ..... neile@sff.net The Ectophiles' Guide to Good Music .... http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 13:49:32 -0700 From: Neile Graham Subject: Pantheon for EctoGuide Hi, all-- I've been thinking about how to approach this discussion for the purposes of The Ectophiles' Guide to Good Music, and what I'd like to do is this, if it seems like a good idea to everyone. - --Keep the goddess list as it is for now - --Below it, add a Personal pantheon list with links to all the artists people have mentioned so far, including after the name a link to the commentators guide entries for the people who mentioned them (I will request permission from those people who have not already granted me blanket permission to quote from them for the Guide) - --Start the whole thing with this quote from Andrew, if I may: Andrew Fries wrote: >...when we talk about music we really talk about ourselves. How does this sound? People who haven't already sent the list a pantheon and who don't want to continue clogging the list with lists but who would like to be included can feel free to send their lists directly. send to neile@sff.net or ectoguide@smoe.org, either will work. Thanks! - --Neile - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Neile Graham ..... http://www.sff.net/people/neile ..... neile@sff.net The Ectophiles' Guide to Good Music .... http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 15:40:42 -0700 From: Neile Graham Subject: Kate Bush CD finally here! >From: >Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 16:02:37 EDT >To: DivaNation@aol.com >Mime-Version: 1.0 >Subject: Kate Bush CD finally here! > >Perhaps you've heard about the >KATE BUSH TRIBUTE CD: I WANNA BE KATE? >It just arrived! It's in stock. Finally! >It includes versions of Kate's songs by members of Poi >Dog Pondering, The Jesus Lizard, and . . . > >L'Amour Looks Something Like You by The Aluminum Group >The Sensual World by Susan Voelz >Hounds Of Love by The Moviegoers >The Man With The Child In His Eyes by Syd Straw >There Goes A Tenner by The J Davis Trio >The Saxophone Song by Nora O'Connor >You're The One by Justin Roberts >Coffee Homeground by Mouse >Jig Of Life by Catherine Smitko >The Kick Inside by Victoria Storm >Running Up That Hill by The Baltimores >Home For Christmas by Diamond JimGreene >Suspended In Gaffa by My Scarlet Life >Kashka From Baghdad/Babooshka by The Plunging Necklines >Love And Anger by Trinkets Of Joy >And Dream Of Sheep by Thomas Negovan >Not This Time by Tom Dunning & Your Boyfriends > >*Kate Bush Tribute CD: I WANNA BE KATE ($14) (This CD > will not be in stores until Sept 22nd --that's it's > official release date when all the press is gonna hit. > But the CD is for sale from the label and the bands now. > If you want a copy before September, send checks (to > My Scarlet Life) (+$2 per order for S&H) to: > > My Scarlet Life > 5602 N Ridge > Chicago IL 60660 > >Turn-around time is just a day or two. > >Also available: >*My Scarlet Life: BUZZBOMB CD ($12) >*My Scarlet Life: TRYPNOTICA CD ($12) >*My Scarlet Life: RELIQUARIES CD ($20) > >Coming In September: >*My Scarlet Life: DANSE AMOUR CD (A CD of creative > dance/ambient remixes of Black Limbo, Myst, > Mourning, Other Worlds, and many more) ($12) >*Bed Of Roses: THE KISSING TREE CD (Preston Klik + > cameos by members of Big Hat, The Twigs, Sister > Soleil, black tape for a blue girl, and of course My > Scarlet Life) ($12) >*DivaNation Records "compilation" CD (if all works out, > cuts by: A New January, Bed Of Roses, Blue Dahlia, > Breather, Certain Distant Suns, Chika, Dirty, Dorian > Gray, Eggs@8:14, Fate Saved Us, Is-U-Is, JuTe, My > Scarlet Life, Pounder, Psycho Ex-Lover, SCSI, 3 Year's > Ghost, TheImmortalSavant, Twigs and more! or less!) > ($10) > >In Jan/Feb: >*JuTe: UNDER THE WHEEL >*TheImmortalSavant: PITH > >Preston Klik c/o DivaNation >DivaNation@aol.com, 773-728-2759 >5602 N Ridge, Chicago IL 60660 > - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Neile Graham ..... http://www.sff.net/people/neile ..... neile@sff.net The Ectophiles' Guide to Good Music .... http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 18:48:37 From: Melissa Barberer Subject: used/new music buys, ani on vh1? Today I went used cd shopping. I bought: thanks to gravity-sling shot (for a friend who likes them)-3.99, Lamb-4.99, Grey eye glances-further on-4.99, merrie amsterburg-season of rain-6.99, ednaswap-wacko magneto (cute got a ball in the side...I just read about them in sam goody's magazine. They originally did the song 'torn'. So I am curious of what they sound like.-5.99. I also got $11 off because I sold them 3 cds. But they didn't buy back most of my cds. I also got the 5 song cd single of tori's spark. I read somewhere that Ani Difranco will be on Vh1's hardrock live cafe. Does anyone know when? ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 19:14:42 -0700 From: deanorez@juno.com (G Perez) Subject: Splendid; Dates of Note If you want more info on Splendid, ask Angie herself. I believe they have a Tuesday residency through July at Largo. Call the club for specific details. Dates (mostly LA): 7/18 - Gregory Page w/Alien Fashion Show @ the Mint The Donnas @ the Troubadour 7/19 - Angela (Wild Colonials) @ Goldfingers 7/20 - Nina Hagen on kcrw's "MBE" 7/21 - Kleckley Sweet w/Lucy Gamelon @ the Fold Patty Griffin @ the House of Blues Amy Rigby @ the Mint Splendid @ Largo 7/21&22 - Steve Poltz @ Java Joe's, San Diego 7/24 - ** THC @ Moguls 7/25 - Lisa Loeb w/Rufus Wainwright, and Steve Poltz @ the El Rey Theatre ($16.50) Scarnella w/Paige and Farflung (Carla Bozulich and Nels Cline of the Geraldine Fibbers) @ Saint Lucy's ($7; 8pm; all ages) Anna Waronker (That Dog) w/Sissy Bar and Imperial Teen @ Spaceland 7/27 - Drugstore w/Adam Cohen @ the Troubadour 7/28 - K's Choice @the Troubadour ** Aife Wells @ Little Frida's Coffee House 7/29 - Heather Nova @ the Troubadour Lisa Sanders @ Little Frida's Coffee House 7/30 - Melissa Ferrick @ Largo 7/31 - Melissa Ferrick @ Little Frida's Coffee House 8/1 - Deborah Bartley @ Little Frida's Coffee House 8/5 - Gillian Welch @ the Troubadour 8/7 - Esthero @ the Troubadour 8/8 - Sleater-Kinney @ the Troubadour 8/11 - Lava Diva @ Little Frida's Coffee House 8/10 - Susan James @ the Opium Den 8/12 - Girl Bros. featuring Wendy & Lisa w/Lisa Germano @ the Roxy Theatre Scarnella (see 7/25) w/Steve Malkmus (Pavement) @ the Sculpture Garden, Long Beach Museum of Art 8/13 - Hooverphonic @ the Roxy 8/14 - Neil Finn w/Ebba Forsberg @ the Wiltern Theatre Danny Barnes (Bad Livers) @ McCabe's Guitar Shop 8/16 - Patti Smith @ the Hollywood Athletic Club 8/20 - Cowboy Junkies @ Royce Hall, UCLA 8/27 - Emmylou Harris w/Spyboy @ the El Rey Theatre 9/9&10 - Paula Cole @ the Troubadour 9/18 - Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds @ the Wiltern Theatre 9/26 - Susan Werner @ McCabe's Guitar Shop Tickets are on sale now for all events except Emmylou Harris which goes on sale 7/20. __ gp np: susan james: _fantastic voyage_ (red letter) _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 22:19:08 -0500 From: WretchAwry Subject: Tucson Ectophiles I know you're out there :-) I found a playlist of a fella who's playing Happy's music. Here 'tis: Subject: Playlist: KXCI Music Mix 98/07/07 From: Jim Foley Date: Wed, 08 Jul 1998 11:44:56 -0700 Message-ID: <2.2.32.19980708184456.00762704@pop.azstarnet.com> Mailing List: globe-l@nevada.edu Word Matches: HAPPY RHODES KXCI-FM Music Mix Playlist - Jim Foley Tuesday, July 7, 1998 - 15:00 - 18:00 MST In the interest of readability on varied fonts, diacritical marks appear immediately after the letter modified. (i.e., o: is an umlauted o). ***** Format ***** Artist Title Album Label Remarks - ----- 15:00 --------------------- Don Reeve Tickle Spirit Wild Crash Landing Local acoustic guitarists with a wild instrumental, lotsa pull-offs, hammer-ons, and high-speed picking. - ----- 15:07 --------------------- Africando Huenouhwo Baloba! Stern's Second CD from this cultural crossover group, this cut in very Caribbean French, lively salsa-style about 150th anniversary of end of slavery in Caribbean. The Four Blazes Night Train Mary Jo Delmark Cover of classic from 50s-60s R&B group. Macka B Road Rage Suspicious RAS Pop reggae, marginally comprehensible lyrics. Get out of the car, please. Dwight Yoakam I Wouldn't Put It Past Me A Long Way Home Reprise Pop country in the Bakersfield idiom, lyrics about a man who understands his limitations. - ----- 15:22 ----------------- Dread Zeppelin Jungle Boogie It's Not Unusual IRS (RIP) Metal Elvis disco reggae. Silly yet ridiculous. Frankie Armstrong Whore and the Holy One The Fair Moon Rejoices Harbourtown Strident yet compelling and exhilarating female vocal solo with a apocryphal Gnostic theme, followed by a Balkanesque instrumental interlude. A wonderful recording. Got a number of listener queries. Ho:lderlin Express Jumping Eggs Ho:lderlin Express Akku German band with contemporary traditional instrumental, featuring accordion and pipes. Also generated listener queries. Mike Welch Can't Reach You Catch me Tone-Cool c/o Rounder Electric blues, male vocal, good guitar. He'll be playing Tucson 7/22. - ----- 15:37 ----------------- A. J. Croce I'll Get Through Fit to Serve Ruf Shuffling New Orleans style piano dominated blues with a uniquely scratchy and expressive male vocal. Frisner Augustin Kongo Payet The Drums of Vodou White Cliffs Vodou percussion instrumental. I'm hoping this one will bring rain. Heather Myles Gonna Have Love Sweet Little Dangerous Demon Lie country, female vocal, recorded in London. - ----- 15:52 ----------------- Happy Rhodes Proof Many Worlds Are Born Tonight Samson Dark rock, samples, odd moody 15 octave female vocal. This new record differs from previous Rhodesiana in having few lyrics, repeated mantralike, somewhat like Jenifer Smith's record of last year. Wayne Toups Mine, Mine, Mine Toups New Blues Light, fun Cajun blues, male vocal. - ----- 16:00 ----------------- Eya-Hey Nakoda Dizzy Sacred Mountains Turtle Island Native American drum and chant. Belloluna Hipper-Than-Thou Pleasant Music for Nice People Daemon Pleasant, loungy rock, male vocal. Don't know about the nice people, though. - ----- 16:07 ----------------- Santiago Jimenez, Jr. Tres Viudas Solas Corridos de la Frontera Watermelon Norten~a waltz, accordion, male harmony vocals. The Revenants Marie Artists and Whores Epiphany Phoenix-area country bar band with a haunting song, one of those Poe-ish unreliable narrator structures. The Blues Project Steve's Song Projections Verve Forecast A peculiar piece of 60s trivia from my vinyl collection, a pretty song with a sophisticated English-ballad style melody, rendered other worldly by psychedelic Farfisa. Scratchy, too. Kate Jacobs Honeybees Hydrangea Bar None Just came in today. I've long enjoyed her vocals, strength concealed in fragility. This cut is sorta a rocker. I suppose there are no Africanized bees Back East. - ----- 16:22 ----------------- Kenny Young & the Eggplants Earl the Squirrel Toxic Dump & Other Love Songs Coney Island Reminiscent of Wally Pleasant but not nearly so annoying, acoustic rock in which we are reminded that a 6 foot squirrel sleeps anywhere it wants. Maebelle Beat Me I've Got a Gun Naughty Pine Local jazz-blues singer on the right side of whom you had better remain. Ray Lema, Professor Stefanov, L'Ensemble Pirin Forest Orchestra Ray Lema, Professor Stefanov, L'Ensemble Pirin Tinder Thrilling Bulgarian choral with yips interspersed with African sounds and jungle noises, aural soundtrack for a nature special on the Sci-Fi channel, a collaboration which works wonderfully. Baucom, Bibey, Graham & Haley How Mountain Girls Can Love Baucom, Bibey, Graham & Haley Rebel Quick bluegrass, male vocals. - ----- 16:37 ----------------- Barbara Morrison If I Were a Bell I Know How to Do It Chartmaker Swinging jazz blues, female vocal. Eskimo Bongo Tension Some Prefer Cake Vaccination Ominous brief instrumental from a recording packed with odd little instrumental pieces. Jani Lauzon Coming Back at You Thirst Ra Folky rock, female vocal. The Frontmen The Mystery Song The Frontmen Rolltop Folk with a bluesy feel, male vocals. - ----- 16:52 ----------------- The Derailers It's Too Late Reverb Deluxe Watermelon Welcomely unpolished country, male vocal. Ricardo Lemzo y Makina Loca Binkinkayo Mambo Yoyo Putumayo Live salsa with a variety of beats and influences, big band sound, male vocals. Generated listener queries. - ----- 17:00 ----- Carlene Anglim & Ali Crowley's Reel/Farewell to Erin/Julia Delaney's Mellow Frenzy Lochshore Celtic fiddle instrumentals that almost seem alive, able guitar backing. Jackie Tice Rachel Blue Coyote Saja Acoustic singer-songwriter piece from an album which reminds me of a Hegira era Joni Mitchell. - ----- 17:07 --------------------- Hijas del Sol Esa'ri Kotto' NubeNegra c/o Alula These two women's vocals are usually so lively and happy, it's striking when they do a minor key piece like this, with brooding instrumentation. Debi Smith Sleep More Than Once Shanachie Just Debi and her bodhrun. Michael Hill's Blues Mob Young Folks' Blues New York State of Blues Alligator Electric urban blues, good guitar and support for the Scapegoat Generation. Mary Gauthier (Go-Shay, y'all) Ever Easy Dixie Kitchen RG Pleasant folky-bayou song, female vocal. - ----- 17:22---------------- Lucinda Williams Metal Firecracker Car Wheels on a Gravel Road Mercury Listener request. This track on the rock side. I think I like this new record so much because Williams' voice is not quite heat it used to be, and she has compensated by better songwriting and more nuanced vocal phrasing. Alpha Yaya Diallo Djarabi Aduna Tinder One of those skipping West African rhythms, keening male vocal. Terri Marie Time to Fly Time to Fly Lit'l Bear Local singer-songwriter with a New Age metaphysical bent. Listener request. Ushna Joe's Garden / Joe the Quilter Twice Brewed Fellside Umbrian instrumental, heavy on harp and pipes. - -----17:37---------------- Chava Alberstein Signs Crazy Flower Shanachie Israeli song, female vocal. Fuego Norten~a Puras Verdades Las Reses EGO Upbeat Norten~a, accordion, male vocals. 22 Brides Victoria's Tomb Demolition Day Zero Hour Brooding rock, great female harmonies. Shemekia Copeland Has Anybody Seen My Man Turn the Heat Up Alligator Driving blues, female vocal. - -----17:52---------------- Nanci Griffith The Wings of a Dove Other Voices, Too Elektra Listener request. Lucinda Williams on backup vocals. I seem to recall a deep, deep voiced version in my youth. Ferlon Husky or someone like that? Kathryn Tickell Kate's House The Gathering Park Crazed smallpipes instrumental. - -----18:00 ---------------- e-mail me if you need more info on music sources. ========================================================= Jim Foley - Music Director KXCI-FM 220 South Fourth Avenue Tucson AZ 85701 (520) 623-1000 foleyj@azstarnet.com KXCI web site: http://www.kxci.org - ------------------------------------- ------------------------------ End of ecto-digest V4 #235 **************************