From: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org (ecto-digest) To: ecto-digest@smoe.org Subject: ecto-digest V4 #189 Reply-To: ecto@smoe.org Sender: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Monday, June 15 1998 Volume 04 : Number 189 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Soon Will Be Tomorrow [Andrew Fries ] Today's your birthday, friend... [Mike Matthews ] Re: new nields [meredith ] Re: heather russell [Riphug@aol.com] just a few new cd's..... [Riphug@aol.com] Re: ecto-digest V4 #187 [charley darbo ] Re: just a few new cd's..... [Dirk Kastens ] Re: just a few new cd's..... [Valerie Nozick ] Re: ecto-digest V4 #187 [Steve VanDevender ] Dar Williams/Richard Shindell/Lucy Kaplansky [Sherlyn Koo ] Guinness Mudfest/Various Stuff [jjh969@juno.com] EWS (was Re: new nields) [rjk1@cs.wustl.edu (bob)] Re: Miranda Sex Garden/Heather Nova [Andrew Fries ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 15 Jun 1998 16:34:12 +1000 From: Andrew Fries Subject: Soon Will Be Tomorrow While rather obscure, this might be of interest to those familiar with Falling Joys and/or The Bad Seeds (ie, Nick Cave)... Suzie Higgie who used to sing for Falling Joys teamed up with Conway Savage, the keyboard player in The Bad Seeds for this little project which resulted in the album, "Soon Will Be Tomorrow". Falling Joys used to be pretty "crunchy" but this one is very, very laid-back and understated. The overall effect is much closer to The Bad Seeds than Falling Joys. In fact, this record bears no resemblance to Falling Joys at all, apart from that familiar, slightly nasal voice. It's Conway's piano and keyboards that stand out and create the mood and he also sings on a couple of tracks. To these ears he sounds just like Nick Cave, then again I'll admit that everyone connected to Bad Seeds sounds like Nick Cave to me :) It was the same thing with Mick Harvey' solo efforts... As for Suzie, well, I don't think there's much to be said about the range or power of her voice, but it certainly is distinct and it works quite well here. Another great late-night listening record... It might be hard to get outside of Australia, but I know there are a couple of Aussies on this list who might want to give it a listen. It's unlikely to get a huge promotion push or anything, yet I think it could be worth seeking out. It's out on Shock Records. - ------------------------------------------------------------------ Some people, you just wanna headbutt them in the hope of direct data download.... (from alt.gothic) http://www.zip.com.au/~afries/hall.html - ----------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Jun 1998 03:00:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Mike Matthews Subject: Today's your birthday, friend... i*i*i*i*i*i i*i*i*i*i*i *************** *****HAPPY********* **************BIRTHDAY********* *************************************************** *************************************************************************** ******************* Mark R. Susskind (no Email address) ******************* *************************************************************************** -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Mark R. Susskind Wed June 15 1966 Gemini Mike Matthews Mon June 16 1969 Dr. Firewall Albert Philipsen Mon June 17 1968 Gemini Neal R. Copperman Thu June 17 1965 Gemini Susan Kay Anderson Tue June 17 1969 Gemini Ecto-The Mailing List Tue June 18 1991 Fuzzy blue Tracy Barber Mon June 18 1956 Gemini Greg Dunn Thu June 18 1953 + Paul Blair Thu June 18 1964 Objectivist David Lubkin Fri June 20 1958 OurLady Marisa Wood Fri June 20 1969 Gemini Cheri Villines Sun June 20 1965 Gemini-Pisces Ray Misra Sat June 20 1970 Gemini Nik Popa Sun June 22 1969 Cancer Teresa VanDyne Thu June 23 1960 Cancer Dave Torok Mon June 24 1968 Cancer Ethan Straffin Thu June 24 1971 Cancer Kevin Dekan Mon June 27 1960 Cancer BunkyTom Tue July 02 1968 Cancer Anders Hallberg Tue July 03 1962 Cancer Kevin Harkins Thu July 05 1973 Cancer Laurel Krahn Mon July 05 1971 Cancer John J Henshon Mon July 05 1954 The Year Of The Horse / Ruled By The Moon Jim Gurley Mon July 06 1959 Cancer Lisa Wilson Fri July 08 1960 Moonchild with Java Rising Courtney Dallas Fri July 09 1971 Catte Michael Peskura Sat July 09 1949 HallOfFamer Finney T. Tsai Sat July 09 1966 Cancer Larry Greenfield Tue July 11 1950 Virgo Rising; Gemini Moon Marion Kippers Tue July 13 1965 Kreeft Ellen Rawson Thu July 13 1961 Double Cancer Mitch Pravatiner Mon July 14 1952 Cancer Rich R. Wed July 14 1954 Cancer - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Jun 1998 07:49:29 -0400 From: meredith Subject: Re: new nields Hi! JeffW reported: >The Nields released their new CD 'Mousse this weekend, with a >huge fundraising bash to raise money to buy a new van (their old >one died). I've got tons to report from this fest ... it was a mini ectogather! No time now, though, but I promise I'll get to it soon. >Hopefully you'll be able to find it at your favorite store as >well. Alas, that's not going to be the case. The only way to get _Mousse_ will be to order it directly from them (either at the URL Jeff posted or by calling 1-800-5-NIELDS) or to pick it up at a show. This CD was produced strictly for the fans, and was never intended to be for general sale. Which is a shame, because there are some real gems on it. +==========================================================================+ | Meredith Tarr meth@smoe.org | | New Haven, CT USA http://www.smoe.org/~meth | +==========================================================================+ | "things are more beautiful when they're obscure" -- veda hille | | *** TRAJECTORY: the Veda Hille mailing list *** | | *** http://www.smoe.org/meth/trajectory.html *** | +==========================================================================+ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Jun 1998 09:03:09 EDT From: Riphug@aol.com Subject: Re: heather russell In a message dated 6/15/98 6:30:42 AM Eastern Daylight Time, elan@access.digex.net writes: << Well, no one posted any. Of course, it's never too late to have something added to the guide (on any artist). >> Ok, then I'll pop in ;-) I went to Heather's website and listened to her Real Audio samples. My first impression was that she sounded a little like Victoria Williams -- only because of the fast vibrato in Heather's voice, not that she sounds like a little girl (like Victoria does). I'll have to listen again if you want a more thorough and accurate description..... Jill :D (thinking that it must be strange for Heather to have us talking about her as though she's not here ) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Jun 1998 09:41:26 EDT From: Riphug@aol.com Subject: just a few new cd's..... Since I often post my cd purchases and haven't done so in awhile, a few people have asked me about recent additions to my collection. So.......here are the new additions to my collection[1], and a list of cds I have on order: COCO LOVE ALCORN - self-titled.......a pleasant Canadian jazz singer; does mostly cover tunes, but the songs she writes are good, too ANGGUN - Snow on the Sahara AUTOUR DE LUCIE - Chanson Sans Issue (remixe par).......although I like Autour De Lucie and this song, I'm not sure if I'll be keeping this one.......nine remixes of the same song can kind of wear on you THE BEATLES - White Album.......I've been missing this ever since my turntable gave out......finally found a reasonable deal on it MAIRE BRENNAN - Perfect Time........Since I don't listen to lyrics much, the religious bent to this album doesn't affect me one way or the other.......I just love listening to Maire's beautiful voice LISA BROKOP - Every Little Girl's Dream.......a Canadian country singer.....haven't had a chance to listen to this yet CAPERCAILLIE - Beautiful Wasteland THE CONNELLS - Still Life THE CORRS - Talk On Corners........I had forgotten how much this group reminds me of the Spice Girls or Bangles......a few kind of obnoxious tunes, but most is ok CORDELIA'S DAD - Spine COWBOY JUNKIES - Pale Sun Crescent Moon JULEE CRUISE - Floating Into the Night ANNETTE DUCHARME - Sanctuary.......just obtained via trade with Neile ;-) ECONOLINE CRUSH - The Devil You Know ERASURE - The Two Ring Circus EVERYTHING BUT THE GIRL - Acoustic JENNIFER FERGUSON - Hand Around the Heart.......a singer from South Africa GRANT LEE BUFFALO - Jubilee HOOVERPHONIC - A New Stereophonic Sound Spectacular.........After hearing the name of this group several times, I took a chance......good ethereal dance stuff K'S CHOICE - Cocoon Crash ALISON KRAUSS & UNION STATION - So Long So Wrong LARGO......I've been meaning to ask about this......Is Largo a group? There are various artists on this album, and an explanation of how the album is a response to the classical song by the same name, but I still haven't figured it out. I like it. LEAHY - self-titled LOVE SPIRALS DOWNWARD - Ardor/Idylls PAUL MCCARTNEY - Choba CCP (the Russian Album).......Paul does Elvis ;-) NATALIE MERCHANT - Ophelia......why does Natalie remind me of Sarah McLachlan on some of the songs here? MIMI - Soak MONK - Quiver........a former member of Cincinnati's own Over-the-Rhine ALANNAH MYLES - Rockinghorse HEATHER NOVA - Siren PERFUME TREE - Feeler PROJEKCT TWO - Space Groove......this might just be too weird for me RHIANNON - Toward Home MAIA SHARP - Hardly Glamour SIMPLY RED - Blue.......ahhhhhh, this group always takes me back in time.....nice jazzy sound..... DEBI SMITH - More Than Once TANITA TIKARAM - The Sweet Keeper.......I can't get enough of her low voice! TREANA - Naked SHANIA TWAIN - The Woman in Me CRASH soundtrack (good for Halloween, but not much else) DUE SOUTH VOLUME II soundtrack THE ENGLISH PATIENT soundtrack FAR AND AWAY soundtrack HOPE FLOATS soundtrack THE ICE STORM soundtrack THE PAPER soundtrack RUSH soundtrack (for Eric Clapton fans) SHOOTING FISH soundtrack SLIDING DOORS soundtrack TOMORROW NEVER DIES soundtrack THE TRUTH ABOUT CATS AND DOGS soundtrack THE X FILES: THE ALBUM soundtrack Progressions #27 - New Music for Progressive Adult Radio (features Paula Cole) The Oxford American Southern Sampler 1998 Stuck on a Cold Steel Pole Peace, Love & Music - Starbucks 25th Anniversary Anthology Songs of the Siren - Starbucks Favorite Divas Songs of the Siren II - A Collection of True Voices Loren Pickford - Elysian Fields Spyro Gyra - Rites of Summer Jesse Cook - Gravity Kitaro - Gaia~Onbashira/Six Musical Portraits In Search of Angels (Windham Hill) Woodlands (Tingstad, Rumbel, Lanz) American Acoustic (Tingstad & Rumbel) Summer Solstice - A Windham Hill Collection Jane Siberry - Video Collection 1984 - 1989 ON ORDER: ANDREA FLORIAN - Only Human EMM GRYNER - Public EVA TROUT - Eva Trout GREAT BIG SEA - Rant & Roar KIRSTY MACCOLL - What Do Pretty Girls Do? MARY MARGARET O'HARA - Christmas EP MARY MARGARET O'HARA - Miss America COCO LOVE ALCORN - Happy Pockets VARIOUS ARTISTS - Indie Buzz (to boot) VARIOUS ARTISTS - News From Nowhere Seems like there were more, but I can't remember! Jill :D ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Jun 1998 06:42:53 -0700 (PDT) From: charley darbo Subject: Re: ecto-digest V4 #187 - ---dave wrote: > > Thanx to all the people hat thought it was about the Corrs for not > getting it.. > Thanx to all the people who responded privately that did get it.. > I'm off to join that second group now by shutting up and letting the > status quo have their little forum back.. don't even bother > responding... just stick a fork in me, I'm done. > Well. If, as he says, it wasn't about the Corrs, then it was about the negative tone used by some of us to review the Corrs. And if you ask me, the above post steps farther over that line than any post dave's objected to. I'm too polite to say good riddance, so I'll just wish dave luck in his new endeavors; may they be more in keeping with his own personal, unfathomable definitions of polite behavior. - --charlee _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Jun 1998 16:44:14 +0200 From: Dirk Kastens Subject: Re: just a few new cd's..... At 09:41 15.06.98 EDT, Riphug@aol.com wrote: >MAIRE BRENNAN - Perfect Time........Since I don't listen to lyrics much, the >religious bent to this album doesn't affect me one way or the other.......I >just love listening to Maire's beautiful voice The weakest of her three solo albums, IMO. Sounds much like Enya. >CAPERCAILLIE - Beautiful Wasteland One of the best Capercaillie albums. Esp. the collaborations with the Spanish singers are excellent and worth the album. >HEATHER NOVA - Siren We had to wait a long time for the successor of Oyster. Siren is a bit more mainstream but it also contains some of her best songs. >SHANIA TWAIN - The Woman in Me What is this one like? According to the media presence in Germany it can't be that good... Dirk ------------------------------ Date: 15 Jun 1998 14:58:08 +0000 From: Tim.Cook@Swift.Com (Tim Cook) Subject: Tanita Tikaram Tanita Tikaram is releasing a new album in the UK today "Cappucino ?" (trust me to forget the title!). Hope this means it'll be released in the US tomorrow. tim ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Jun 98 11:19:27 EDT From: ken@engr.st.3com.com (Ken Descoteaux) Subject: Re: ecto-digest V4 #187 > From: dave > Thanx to all the people hat thought it was about the Corrs for not > getting it.. > Thanx to all the people who responded privately that did get it.. > I'm off to join that second group now by shutting up and letting the > status quo have their little forum back.. don't even bother > responding... just stick a fork in me, I'm done. > Response A: Oh please, you're kidding, right? I guess there's no accounting for taste. Response B: Response A didn't sound so good, did it? Perhaps a bit hostile, condescending, and insulting? It'll probably draw complaints from some regulars that its not really appropriate on ecto, and I agree. > From: dave in digest v04.n180 > np: The Corrs - Talk on Corners - Bought this after it was so highly > recommended here, love it.. thanx for the tip.. makes up for that Katell > Keinig crap I bought a while back.. (yes, I've now learned to reverse > all ecto recommendations) Personally, I think that many people probably felt the same way about this backhanded compliment used as a parting shot. I really like the way that you've disguised it so that anyone who wasn't following the Corrs commentary wouldn't spot it. Except your parenthetical comment gives it away. Do you really think that saying that every opinion on ecto is wrong is a friendly statement? Would you like a friend to tell you that they really valued your opinion, because if they just did the opposite of what you recommend then everything works out okay? What a compliment, eh? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Jun 1998 10:28:48 -0500 (CDT) From: "Joseph S. Zitt" Subject: Re: ecto-digest V4 #187 On Mon, 15 Jun 1998, Ken Descoteaux wrote: > Would you like a friend to tell you that they > really valued your opinion, because if they just did the opposite of what > you recommend then everything works out okay? What a compliment, eh? That sorta happened to me a few years back: at one job, I was stuck with interviewing most of the potential new workers. My boss then onsisted=ntly acted against my recommendations. She told me, after I figured that out, that my instincts were so perfectly 180 degrees off that doing the opposite of what I recommended always worked. Funny thing is, she was right... np: October Project nr: Dick Higgins, _foew&ombwhnw_ - - ---------1---------1---------1---------1---------1---------1---------- |||/ Joseph Zitt ===== jzitt@humansystems.com ===== Human Systems \||| ||/ Maryland? = <*> SILENCE: The John Cage Mailing List <*> = ecto \|| |/ http://www.realtime.net/~jzitt ====== Comma: Voices of New Music \| ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Jun 1998 11:42:10 -0400 From: Valerie Nozick Subject: Re: just a few new cd's..... Dirk Kastens wrote: > At 09:41 15.06.98 EDT, Riphug@aol.com wrote: > >SHANIA TWAIN - The Woman in Me > > What is this one like? According to the media presence in Germany > it can't be that good... Ooh, I never thought I'd discuss Shania on ecto! :) TWiM is a fabulous album if you like 90s-style dancebeat country. The slow songs vary -- I find myself skipping over a few of them. But the CD is worth it for all the hits. Here in the US, this album spawned a slew of hit singles -- "Any Man of Mine", "(If You're Not in It For Love) I'm Outta Here" and about 4 others. Shania is the top-selling country female vocalist ever in the US. Would I recommend it as an ecto CD? No. As a fun, danceable country CD? Absolutely. If you take Shania for what she is -- a country-pop artist who creates fun, bubbly music -- she's great. Don't expect Mary Chapin Carpenter; expect country music's equivalent of Bananarama. ==> Valerie ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Jun 1998 10:53:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve VanDevender Subject: Re: ecto-digest V4 #187 dave writes: > Thanx to all the people hat thought it was about the Corrs for not > getting it.. > Thanx to all the people who responded privately that did get it.. > I'm off to join that second group now by shutting up and letting the > status quo have their little forum back.. don't even bother > responding... just stick a fork in me, I'm done. There is no Ecto Cabal, Dave. Everyone here seems to be very supportive of both diversity of opinion and freedom of expression. Unfortunately that means that you will encounter opinions you disagree with; fortunately you're free to hold your own opinions _and express them_. If you choose not to express or defend your opinions, then the only person who is inhibiting you is yourself. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Jun 1998 20:11:26 +0200 (MET DST) From: Yves Denneulin Subject: Miranda Sex Garden news & Dranouter [crossposted to a couple of friends who are interested in MSG infos. Please remove them from the CC: line if you reply. Thanks!] Hello, I am *very* behind in my ecto mail and I will be away from my computer for the rest of the week so it won't get any better. Meth, I haven't finished playing all the CDs I bought in NYC yet and my Milla Drumke and Nields addictions are not getting any better :-). John, I am looking forward to seeing you again either in Paris or in NYC. I received some MSG news today and think some might here might be interested in them. >From: FOREVER BURNING Finally Miranda Sex Garden have been doing... not very much lately! However the band is keen on putting a new album out. Since there hasn't been any success trying to get a record company to pay for new studio recordings, another option is now being considered. A substantial amount of material was recorded on the recent Scandinavian tour. These recordings cover old as well as previously unreleased material and the sound quality is very good. We are looking at the possibility of releasing a selection of the Scandinavian recordings as a live album and what we need to know is this: What do you, the fans think about it? Would you be interested in buying such an album? You can make it possible if there is enough interest. If you think you would be interested in buying a new live album with Miranda Sex Garden featuring a mixture of new and old material please get in touch. Send a short e-mail with a few lines about what you think and remember to state where in the world you are! I am going to answer, I dream of a MSG live album. I think some subscribers from Norway went to see them on the aforementioned tour. Was it good? What did they play, old or newer stuff (i.e. middle age or goth)? Finally for all europeans (and wandering americans :-) ) this year Dranouter folkfestival (august 7,8,9) will feature Heather Nova, Patti Smith, the Nits, Van Morrison, Ron Sexmith, Beth Orton, Martha Wainwright and Anam, among others. The whole program can be found at www.folkdranouter.be I will probably be there if I am not in the US looking for LF tickets. Best, - -- | Yves Denneulin email: denneuli@lifl.fr | +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Autour de Lucie webpage: http://www.lifl.fr/~denneuli/adl/adl.html | | "Les brouillons" the Autour de Lucie mailinglist infos at: | | http://www.smoe.org/lists/brouillons.info | +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ n.p.: Heather Nova _Siren_ (first listen, no opinion yet, it seems to sound a lot like Oyster) n.r.: Paul Auster _Hand to mouth_ (almost over, hightly recommended, an interesting and surprising autobiography and the crime novel at the end is quite good, too) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Jun 1998 13:59:52 -0500 (CDT) From: "Joseph S. Zitt" Subject: Re: Miranda Sex Garden news & Dranouter On Mon, 15 Jun 1998, Yves Denneulin wrote: > If you think you would be interested in buying a new live album with > Miranda Sex Garden featuring a mixture of new and old material please get > in touch. Send a short e-mail with a few lines about what you think and > remember to state where in the world you are! Ooh! Ooh! Washington, DC, USA, piping in to say I'd grab it immediately! - - ---------1---------1---------1---------1---------1---------1---------- |||/ Joseph Zitt ===== jzitt@humansystems.com ===== Human Systems \||| ||/ Maryland? = <*> SILENCE: The John Cage Mailing List <*> = ecto \|| |/ http://www.realtime.net/~jzitt ====== Comma: Voices of New Music \| ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Jun 1998 15:02:39 EDT From: Riphug@aol.com Subject: Re: just a few new cd's..... In a message dated 6/15/98 11:40:44 AM Eastern Daylight Time, valerie@smoe.org writes: << Ooh, I never thought I'd discuss Shania on ecto! :) >> Thanks for answering that, Valerie ;-) I haven't had time to listen to it yet, but your description sounds about like what I would expect to hear. Just a change of pace... Jill :D ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Jun 1998 17:42:50 -0400 From: Heather Russell Subject: Re: heather russell > > n.p. Dana and Karen Kletter: Dear Enemy (whom I just saw perform at an > > Animal Rescue benefit Friday night!!) > > What was this like? I've really been enjoying this album, and would > expect an excellent show. Are they touring? > > Neal > > np: From The Caves of the Iron Mountain - Steve Gorn, Tony Levin, Jerry > Marotta They are really good live. The instrumentation is piano (dana and karen taking turns playing, and sometimes both playing the same piano at the same time), guitar, and someone alternating between bass and percussion. Last Friday, Sara Bell from Dish sat in on banjo and guitar. They don't do a lot of "stage patter", but they really put a lot of feeling into the songs that they sing. I know they're doing shows out of town, but I don't think they're on an official tour or anything. For those in or can get to North Carolina, they're playing this Friday at The Cave in Chapel Hill. The other band I play in (The Mending Wall) opened up for them at their CD release party in Chapel Hill, so I've met them and got to talk to them some more last Friday. They're very friendly, and obviously love what they're doing. :-) Heather - -- |*********************************************************| | Heather Russell | | My music site: http://www.freecloud.com/heather | | The Mending Wall: http://www.unc.edu/~gumption/tmw.html | | hrussell@bellsouth.net | |_________________________________________________________| "I'm in favor of love as long as it doesn't happen when 'The Simpsons' is on television." --- Anita, age 6 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 08:09:25 +1000 From: Sherlyn Koo Subject: Dar Williams/Richard Shindell/Lucy Kaplansky Hey folks, Here're a couple of forwards from the Dar Williams list about the upcoming Cry Cry Cry project... It's gonna be great! :) sherlyn === Date: Sun, 14 Jun 1998 15:21:58 EDT From: RonL513297@aol.com Subject: Cry Cry Cry We heard Richard Shindell last night in Chicago. He said that he, Dar and Lucy just completed recording their yet unnamed CD which he thought would be released in October. He said most of the songs are covers but he did say they recorded his Mary Magdalene song and that Dar sings the lead. As posted here earlier, the Band (Cry Cry Cry) plans a short December/January tour. Richard said their band name came from the fact that they play sad depressing songs together. Richard joked that his suggestion for the Band's name was "Cheers for Tears". For Chicago area people, I asked if there were any plans to play Chicago and he said he thought that Chicago should be on the tour (although that's obviously no guarantee). Ron Lewis === Date: Mon, 15 Jun 1998 07:56:46 -0400 From: "Scott A. Green" Subject: More on "Cry Cry Cry" I was at the HUGE Nields show on Saturday in Hatfield MA, the infamous "Jam For The Van". And who do I see but Mr. Charlie Hunter, Dar's manager. He says "Do you have a minute to listen to something ?" I of coarse say "SURE YES". We ran out to his car where he had a portable tape player. He says "This is some REAL EARLY cuts/mixes off the new Cry Cry Cry album. Would you like to hear a few. I said SURE !!!! He played snipits from FIVE tunes for me. Wow. Wow. Wow. All cover songs. There will be TWELVE songs on the yet to be named CD. They hope to release it in October. Its all recorded, and the mixing is happening as we speak. 1. REM's "Fall On Me" w/ Dar on lead vocal. Awesome version of this song. Its gots the full band sound to it. Charlie said it will be a "radio song". 2. "Cold Missouri Water". A James Keelagahan song. w/ Richard on lead. 3. "The Kid". A Buddy Mondlock song. Dar and Lucy sing SIMULTANEOUSLY on this. Its sounds like a "New voice" when you put the two voices together. Its really good. 4. "Oh Lord I Have Made You..." I didn't write down the original artist on this, nor the complete song title. Dar sang lead on this one. I belive this song is also done by Greg Brown on one of his CDs. 5. "Down By The Water" w/ Lucy on lead vocal. This one is going to be a great one gang. I can NOT wait for it to be out. I HOPE they do some touring... MAYBE we'll get to hear a preview of some of these at Falcon Ridge. With Richard and Dar on the same stage. Hearing "Fall On Me" by REM blew me away. I am a huge REM fan and its sounded so wonderful. I'm off to work a little late. Ah well. Priorities. Priorities. scott !+ "We love the friends we have, the world ! Scott Green we share... we find magic everywhere" ! http://www.connix.com/~greener Dar Williams ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Jun 1998 19:40:03 -0400 From: meredith Subject: A small solo tour (fwd) Hi! Here's some more details on the Ingrid Karklins events happening over the next couple weeks (of special ecto interest will be the house concert :). Wish I could go ... waaaah. >From: Ingrid Karklins >Subject: A small solo tour (fwd) >To: passion@guava.futuris.net >Date: Mon, 15 Jun 1998 15:44:56 CDT > >This just went out to my mailing list: > > >> Ingrid Karklins >> SOLO >> >> Thursday, June 18 >> KBCS >> Bellevue, Washington (just outside Seattle) >> 425-641-2427 >> Around 3 pm >> >> Saturday, June 27 >> KHSU >> Arcata, California >> 707-826-6088 or 707-826-4805 >> Around 7 pm >> In studio performance with piano >> Audience members welcome (call studio for reservation) >> >> Friday, July 3 >> House Concert >> Seattle, Washington >> Around 7 pm >> By reservation only (206-789-7955) > >Neile Graham will also be reading some of her amazing poetry at the house >concert. +==========================================================================+ | Meredith Tarr meth@smoe.org | | New Haven, CT USA http://www.smoe.org/~meth | +==========================================================================+ | "things are more beautiful when they're obscure" -- veda hille | | *** TRAJECTORY: the Veda Hille mailing list *** | | *** http://www.smoe.org/meth/trajectory.html *** | +==========================================================================+ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Jun 1998 20:14:45 -0400 From: jjh969@juno.com Subject: Guinness Mudfest/Various Stuff Message-ID: <19980615.201455.9326.0.JJH969@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 1.49 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0-117 X-Status: Unsent Guinness Mudfest/Various Stuff Chelsea mentioned that Hugo Largo�s "Second Skin" was unlikely to garner much airplay on commercial stations. It was one of the only HL cuts I do remember getting a lot of play in N.Y. Valerie Krammer brought up the subject of Mary Coghlan. I had the pleasure of seeing Mary Coghlan at the Guinness Mudfest in New York this weekend, despite technical difficulties that I�ll rant about later, I was very impressed. I went in cold, being totally unfamiliar with her work. All I had to go on was Carolyn (who I met there) Andre�s mention that she wanted to catch Mary�s set, and the blurb in the festival guide which read: >>>pirated >>> Mary Coughlan was born in Gal way in 1956 and has lived a life to match the mood of some of her best _ known jazz and blues recordings. A painful adolescence, bouts with drink and drugs and a stay in _ a mental hospital have left their mark on a woman who _ has finally in her forties, come fully into her own. After several difficult years in London, Coughlan returned to Ireland in 1974, where an introduction to Dutch musician Erik Visser began her singing career. After winning a talent contest in a Gal way pub, word of mouth brought a couple of Television appearances and in 1985 Coughlan recorded her debut album, "Tired and Emotional" which became a major hit in Ireland. Seven more records followed and in the years to come, she became a cult favorite throughout much of Europe. "After the Fall" her latest, represented her U.S. debut, and garnered a devoted following for Coghlan in America. <<<< The titles of the two discs mentioned seemed appropriate on hearing her sing. Her voice gives the impression she�s a world-weary wanderer at the end of a rough road. Kind of torchy, kind of blue, kind of nice. Listening to her made you think of a smoky dim lit nightclub in the seedy side of town. Brecht and Weill tunes would fit her nicely. As they were opening up the gates Saturday morning the sky opened up as well, twenty minutes and two inches of rain later we were ankle deep in mud. Being of Irish descent I feel confident that nobody will be offended, and if they are, too bad, putting six inches of mud and thousands of drunken Irishmen in the same place is an ugly business. Warming up the rant mode. I was flabbergasted at the complete and utter lack of engineering skills displayed by the sound people (On-Time Sound.) They could have set the gains to unity, everything flat, turned off the effects, walked away and had a better result. They couldn�t even get a CD to sound decent ! A frekin no-brainer. Running with next to no sound check I can see the early part of a first song being a bit dicey, but hey. This just wasn�t in the Village Voice tent, things on the main stage were no better. These were supposed to be professionals. Hundreds of thousands of dollars of equipment and a crew without a clue. Capercaille�s Manus Lunny wasted his time playing the Bouzouki, nobody heard it. The soundguy�s cure for feedback on the Uilean pipes was cut it from the mix. Oh, and we�ll set up a mike for your Bodhran but we ain�t gonna turn it on. Yikes ! Joe Ely�s guest guitarist, who wailed ferociously, walked off in disgust two thirds the way through the set. I�m sorry I didn�t catch his name, he was a master of the Tommy Tedesco order. Whether or not Susan McKeown�s repeated requests for more Bodhran in the monitors was heeded I don�t know, there was no Bodhran in the mains. A ferocious lineup of talent, sabotaged by incompetence. I had to walk away from Mary Black�s set, it was too painful to be witness to such sonic butchery. I know after this rant you�ll all think I joke when I say the Corrs were one of the few bands who sounded halfway decent. I kid you not. Another thing I couldn�t make it through was the Indigo Girls. How tough could that have been, two vocals, two guitars. I think with them it had a lot to do with their performance though, I resorted to Black 47 who were closing the show in the Nyah tent at the same time and had the crowd jumpin big time with a Bob Marley tune. Before the Indigo Girls, Tracy O�Chapman (so dubbed by her bandmates, riding her for signing to a Guinness gig) kicked it up and was big fun to hear. Got to meet Frances Black at the HMV tent after her performance (where I finally located a copy of Mary Margaret O�Hara�s "Miss America") and she proved to be a very warm and graceful person. I found her to be substantially more attractive than photos of her would suggest. Please forgive the superficial observation. Unannounced schedule changes caused me to miss Dar on the main stage (she was supposed to be in the Village Voice Tent). Also was sorry to miss out on Natalie McMaster and Altan So much music, so little time. Nancy Griffith and Eileen Ivers both rocked, hope they come this way again soon. I must be gettin old, big outdoor things, even with such a line up, well, give me Fez or the Bottom Line any time. Well nuff ranting. I�ll stop tuggin on your sleeve for now. Later, John P.S. to Carolyn: It was great to put a face on another Ecto name. Let me know when you�re back in the apple. ********************************************************************************************** Paradise Sound The Sound Choice For Choice Sound ParadiseSound@juno.com ----- 718-850-2300 http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/triadmedia/sound.htm _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Jun 1998 20:40:25 -0500 From: rjk1@cs.wustl.edu (bob) Subject: EWS (was Re: new nields) meredith writes: | JeffW reported: | | >The Nields released their new CD 'Mousse this weekend, with a | >huge fundraising bash to raise money to buy a new van (their old | >one died). | | I've got tons to report from this fest ... it was a mini ectogather! No | time now, though, but I promise I'll get to it soon. Yeah, what she said. | >Hopefully you'll be able to find it at your favorite store as | >well. | | Alas, that's not going to be the case. The only way to get _Mousse_ will | be to order it directly from them (either at the URL Jeff posted or by | calling 1-800-5-NIELDS) or to pick it up at a show. This CD was produced | strictly for the fans, and was never intended to be for general sale. | Which is a shame, because there are some real gems on it. Yeah, what she said. Except that as good as Mousse is, "Play" (current title of their _real_ release due this fall complete with national distribution), from the looks of it's tracklist, will be even better. In lieu of a concert report (which will probably take me a couple of days to put together and having just gotten back 3.5 hours ago, isn't even started), here's why New England is 15 pounds lighter now than it was last Friday, and why my luggage was curiously 15 pounds heavier than it was when I started... My weekend EWS, in order of aquisition (Sunday's searching was much more fruitful than Saturday's, but then again, I had other things to do Saturday 8) 8) 8) ). So, does 38 in 2 days outdo even Jill :D's best efforts? ;) Point of Ares Enemy Glory Komeda What Makes It Go Dayna Manning Electronic Press Kit Video Sloan Wainwright S/T Rachel Bissex I Used To Be Nice Rose Chronicles Happily Ever After Emm Gryner Public Kirsty MacColl Titanic Days EP Danielle's Mouth S/T One Fell Swoop S/T The Nields Mousse The Beautiful South We Are Each Other import single Arson Garden The Belle Stomp Carrie Newcomer My Father's Only Son Devils Wielding Scimitars III Ani DiFranco Little Plastic Castles promo single 22 Brides Demolition Day Marianne Flemming III Chords & A Bridge Sons of the Never Wrong Three Good Reasons Danielle Howle About to Burst Jennifer Youngs What's the Bob The Nields Best Black Dress promo single pic disc Amy X Neuburg & Men Utechma Fleming & John Delusions of Grandeur Kim Fox Moon Hut Laura Love Putumayo's Laura Love Collection Karen Savoca & The Mind's Eye On the River Road Elysian Fields Bleed Your Cedar Susan James Shocking Pink Banana Seat January See Thru Lili Haydn Lili September '67 Lucky Shoe Tina and the B-Side Movement Salvation Patti Rothberg Between the 1 & the 9 Waterlillies Tempted Chimera Earth Loop Chantal Kreviazuk Under These Rocks and Stones Frogpond Count to Ten Merrie Amsterburg Season of Rain Fortunately, with the obvious exception of Mousse, all were in the discount bins. None over $8, most in the $3-4 range and enough in the $1 bin that they probably average out to around $3. A few I already have and love, but I couldn't pass up at the asking price and needed some fodder for the trade page. ;) Be watching http://www.wagill.com/tradingpost/ecto/ later this week for those... bob ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 12:05:56 +1000 From: Andrew Fries Subject: Re: Miranda Sex Garden/Heather Nova In a message "Miranda Sex Garden news & Dranouter" on 15/Jun/1998 20:11:26 Yves Denneulin says: > If you think you would be interested in buying a new live album with > Miranda Sex Garden featuring a mixture of new and old material please get > in touch. Send a short e-mail with a few lines about what you think and > remember to state where in the world you are! Yes, I'd very much like them to release this; enough to write and tell them so. But who should we send messages to? FOREVER BURNING , is that right? > What did they play, old or newer stuff (i.e. middle age or goth)? Somebody will surely correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm under the impression that after their debut CD they left the madrigal phase of their career behind. So I'd expect the material from their recent tours to be more alike the last 2 records, ie. goth if that's what we want to call it... > n.p.: Heather Nova _Siren_ (first listen, no opinion yet, it seems to sound a > lot like Oyster) I also only played it once so far and though I love Heather Nova I was somewhat disappointed... It did sound a lot like Oyster. Problem is, that happens to be my least favourite of her records. I just keep hoping for something either more subdued or more rough - just something that would sound somehow less mainstream and radio-friendly. ------------------------------ End of ecto-digest V4 #189 **************************