From: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org (ecto-digest) To: ecto-digest@smoe.org Subject: ecto-digest V4 #171 Reply-To: ecto@smoe.org Sender: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Sunday, May 31 1998 Volume 04 : Number 171 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Bobo?? ["Xenu's Sister" ] Strings (Kristen Hersh) [Phil Sainty ] Re: Strings (Kristen Hersh) [Yves Denneulin ] Re: Bobo?? ["Xenu's Sister" ] Hugo Largo and Salem 66 [aardvark of destiny ] Nick Drake--was Re: Sandy Denny [JavaHo@aol.com] Re: Nick Drake--was Re: Sandy Denny [Yves Denneulin ] Re: Veda Very Shining [Jeff Wasilko ] ectopinions please ["deighmunne a.k.a. damange" ] mary margaret o'hara (and more) live in nyc [cjmacs ] Re: mary margaret o'hara (and more) live in nyc [Paul Blair ] St. Ann's /Mary Margaret O'Hara / McKeown, etc. [Carolyn Andre ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 30 May 1998 03:28:11 -0500 From: "Xenu's Sister" Subject: Bobo?? Hi Klaus! What happened to your Bobo page? I'm updating my SIG/Ecto artists pages and it's not there anymore. Do you know of any other Bobo links? Say hi to Claudia! ** BIG HUGS** to you both!!! Vickie Lisa McPherson Memorial Page http://www.primenet.com/~cultxpt/lisa.htm ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 May 1998 21:28:04 +1200 From: Phil Sainty Subject: Strings (Kristen Hersh) Neal wrote: > I don't remember if it was on your list of purchases or not, but if > you didn't also pick up Strings, you should definitely snag it. It's > got 5 songs from Hips and Makers in dramatically different orchestrated > versions, a couple songs not on either solo disc, and a cover of Led > Zepellin's When The Levee Breaks. A wonderful little disc. Ack. My "Strings" CD has exactly four tracks: A Loon Sundrops Me and My Charms Velvet Days (4AD, "made in england", "BAD 4006 CD") How frustrating to hear there's another version with a further four tracks! :/ If anyone was getting a copy sight unseen, it might pay to find out which one you're getting... - -Philip np. Rose Chronicles, "Shiver" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 May 1998 12:13:51 +0200 (MET DST) From: Yves Denneulin Subject: Re: Strings (Kristen Hersh) > Ack. My "Strings" CD has exactly four tracks: > > A Loon > Sundrops > Me and My Charms > Velvet Days > > (4AD, "made in england", "BAD 4006 CD") > > How frustrating to hear there's another version with a further > four tracks! :/ FYI, the other tracks are on the european _Your ghost_ EP. If you have both you needn't buy this EP. There is also a 5 songs version of it with _Beestung_. - -- | Yves Denneulin email: denneuli@lifl.fr | +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Autour de Lucie webpage: http://www.lifl.fr/~denneuli/adl/adl.html | | "Les brouillons" the Autour de Lucie mailinglist infos at: | | http://www.smoe.org/lists/brouillons.info | +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ n.p.: Nick Drake _Way to blue_ n.r.: Paul Auster _Hand to mouth_ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 May 1998 05:36:56 -0500 From: "Xenu's Sister" Subject: Re: Bobo?? At 10:59 AM 5/30/98 +0100, Klaus Kluge wrote: >http://WhiteWoodenWebsite.home.pages.de/ Thanks! I assume that you were responsible for adding Bobo at the CD Database at: http://www.cddb.com/cgi-bin/search2?q=Bobo+in+white+wooden+houses http://www.cddb.com/ It's a trip, for those who don't know about this place. Once you have the appropriate software installed (maybe someone else could explain the technical part. Chris set it up for me and he's asleep), you put a CD in your CD-ROM drive and your computer can search the CD Database for the track listing. If the album is not in the CDDB, you can type in the track listing and album info and send it to the CDDB, so the next person who tries to find that CD will find it there. I played "Stump the CDDB" and was amazed at the depth of info that was there. It had all Happy's releases, even the AG V I & II, so thanks to whoever added Happy! (Was it you Klaus?). It knew Hex (both albums), The Daou, M'bilia Bel and quite a few others I didn't expect it to. So far I've only stumped it on Hetch Hetchy's "Swollen" and the import of Aster Aweke's "Aster" (it had the domestic). I typed them in and sent them to the net. I still have a lot more I bet will stump it, but since I'd feel obligated to type in the information I'm holding off on trying them until I can spend a day typing in song titles. Also cool is that the program will make a copy of the info on your hard drive, so one of these days I'll put in every single one of our CDs one by one to get a ready-made database of all my own CDs. Vickie DIVX = GREED - Boycott Circuit City! ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 May 1998 07:57:56 -0400 (EDT) From: aardvark of destiny Subject: Hugo Largo and Salem 66 I realise the thread has been abandoned, but I needed to throw in my 2c about Hugo Largo. I wasn't around when they were a band, but after seeing Mimi Goese at a Nick Drake benefit, I had to get more of their music. What a great band! My logical mind wants to call them the missing link btwn the Raincoats' _Odyshape_ and Mary Margaret O'Hara, but comparisons of that sort rarely do justice to the actual music. The first album, _Drum_, is particularly good; I like albums that peak and valley, and while _Mettle_ is a nice enough album, it seems to find its niche and stay there. That last song, "Second Skin" makes my hair stand on end, it's so powerful. I'm going to be reviewing Mimi's new album _Soak_ for an online zine, and I'm looking forward to seeing her at the end of this month (though the real attraction for me will be her special guest, Syd Straw. Are there any other fans of Syd's on the list? Don't know how Ectophilic she is, but she's a wonderful performer and I would love to gab with someone about her). Speaking of reviewing (she says, picking up the fiber of another dead thread) -- I do quite a lot of reviewing, mostly for the online zine Luna Kafe. However, my musical knowledge is limited to some singing, a thimblefull of bass-playing (strictly from the "if you can count, you can play bass" school), and some handbell-playing. The last taught me sight-reading, and the other two are fun; I've always wanted to be in a band, if only to let the ham side of me get out and to play songs that have been so powerful to me. I must admit, I envy musicians, since writing can be so concrete. With music you can set a mood and create an atmosphere of intuition while carrying on a conversation or telling a story. It really does come out of the envious of musicians place, but I try not to be so bitter. Oh yeah, lest I ramble on too long; has anyone out there heard of Salem 66? From what I can surmise, they're an all-girl trio that played out in Boston during the mid-80s. I picked up a copy of their first EP for $2 in a local used bin, and while it didn't completely bowl me over, it did pique my interest enough to want to hear more. Feel free to pipe up what's good to look for. - --Chelsea - ---- Chelsea, the mod pixie tugboat@channel1.com "It's easier to fall in love when there's distance between hearts. Thank you for once loving me and letting me once love you." -- Thomas Lomaccio ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 May 1998 08:34:55 EDT From: JavaHo@aol.com Subject: Nick Drake--was Re: Sandy Denny Alan informs: << her life has disturbing parallels with that of Nick Drake: both were English singer-songwriters, both were fixated on morbid themes, both died at an early age and both have only been truly acknowledged decades after their death. >> Funny you should mention Nick Drake, I keep meaning to throw his name out here on ecto and see what comes up. I was in Borders a couple of weeks ago, and there was a new guy working the music area. We got to talking, and I was throwing out the names of some artists I had been listening to. He said, "Hey...have you ever heard of Happy Rhodes?" Keep in mind, here, that I'm in Kansas City. These people still call radio stations requesting REO Speedwagon (as if they haven't already involuntarily heard a lifetime quota of bands like this!) Anyway, I almost fell over at the mention of Happy. My first ecto experience in KC! Needless to say, we talked about many artists for the rest of the evening. He pulled out a Nick Drake CD and said, "You MUST hear this." It was stunning--the guitar work, the vocals, the songwriting. I don't remember the title at this time, but it was a compilation of some sort. It reminded me of Jeff Buckley in some ways. Definitely music that shouldn't be forgotten. I'd be interested to hear more enlightened info about Nick from fans on the list. Java n.p. Silence n.r. Rattlebone by Maxine Clair (set in KC) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 May 1998 14:46:44 +0200 (MET DST) From: Yves Denneulin Subject: Re: Nick Drake--was Re: Sandy Denny JavaHo@aol.com writes: > Needless to say, we talked about many artists for the rest of the > evening. He pulled out a Nick Drake CD and said, "You MUST hear > this." It was stunning--the guitar work, the vocals, the > songwriting. I don't remember the title at this time, but it was a > compilation of some sort. And this morning I wrote: n.p.: Nick Drake _Way to blue_ which is a compilation. It's funny how ectosynchronicity strikes again! I bought this album last wednesday after a friend told me that it was a must-hear and I have the same opinion than you. This is wonderful lyrics and an haunting voice. I am very bad at describing CDs so I won't try with this one but it strikes the same chord in my brain than Kristin Hersh's solo work. Definetely worth buying (I am waiting for this month paycheck to arrive and I order the boxed set from CDNow). Best, - -- | Yves Denneulin email: denneuli@lifl.fr | +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Autour de Lucie webpage: http://www.lifl.fr/~denneuli/adl/adl.html | | "Les brouillons" the Autour de Lucie mailinglist infos at: | | http://www.smoe.org/lists/brouillons.info | +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ n.p.: Nick Drake again ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 May 1998 09:02:49 -0400 From: Angelos Kyrlidis Subject: Re: & Haris Alexiou (Re: Did someone say Eleftheria?) Xenu's Sister wrote: > > echo wrote: > >> i have a question: i have been looking for "the bodies and the > >> knives" by eleftheria arvanitaki for about a year and a half > >> and i cant find it anywhere in north america, neither through > >> special order nor the larger chains (tower, etc). any > >> recommendations on where i should next look? > > And Neile answered: > > > I picked my copy up at Borders, so it should be orderable anywhere. One > > thing, though, since it came out in the Latino label, sometimes it's filed > > in that section. > > > Alternatively, there's a whole catalogue of Greek music only. I can't > > remember the name (Angelos, are you here?) but I think it has a website. > > It does have an 800 number, so you could phone the operative and ask for > > Greek Music & Video. Maybe they even have a website by now--I haven't > > looked. Hi vickie, I am glad you had a chance to catch Haris live. She is a force of nature when she is performing live, especially in front of an audience that appreciates her. I have seen her multiple times (always in greece) and the last show I saw at the Herodion (the theater below the Acropolis where Yanni played) was mindblowing. That was at least 5 years ago... I heard that she played in Boston 2 weeks ago to an empty Orpheum theater, and I was quite upset because I hadn't heard about it at all. That's the problem with 'world-music' shows, the promoters are seldom in the loop of how to advertise to a wide audience. It doesn't surprise me that the way you found out about it was accidental. Posters on greek music or grocery stores is the most advertising greek artists get in the US... Enough sobbing though. Neile's right (hi!). Greek music and video which has a superstore in Astoria in Queens, NY (take the subway to 31st and Broadway and walk under the train tracks towards the Triborough bridge-I think or Newtown Av and you shall see it to your left close to Titan Supermarket) can be reached by phone at 1-800-greek22 (ask for their catalog-it's a great reference) and seems to have a web site: http://www.greekmusicusa.com (their catalog seems to be slim, but their search utility found more stuff) where you can order Eleftheria's Bodies and knives.. The trick is to look for 'ta kormia kai ta maxairia' which is the greek title. :) Doing a search for greek music and video I got some other hits: Greek City Video, Records & Tapes, Ltd. 452 Danforth Avenue, Toronto, Ontario M4K 1P4 Canada Tel: (416) 461-6244, Toll free: 1-800-463-9988 http://www.greekvillage.com/greekcityvideo/music.htm And I am sure there's more. Hope this helps. Angelos ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 May 1998 02:18:43 -0500 From: "Xenu's Sister" Subject: & Haris Alexiou (Re: Did someone say Eleftheria?) At 10:08 PM 5/27/98 -0400, Angelos Kyrlidis wrote: >Alright, I was unsubscribed briefly while I was rearranging my life (new >job, new digs in Boston, etc) Welcome back!! > and missed the question. woj caught me resubscribing > and pointed out that there was a question about Ms. > Arvanitaki that I could help with, so would someone > please repeat it for me? echo wrote: >> i have a question: i have been looking for "the bodies and the >> knives" by eleftheria arvanitaki for about a year and a half >> and i cant find it anywhere in north america, neither through >> special order nor the larger chains (tower, etc). any >> recommendations on where i should next look? And Neile answered: > I picked my copy up at Borders, so it should be orderable anywhere. One > thing, though, since it came out in the Latino label, sometimes it's filed > in that section. > Alternatively, there's a whole catalogue of Greek music only. I can't > remember the name (Angelos, are you here?) but I think it has a website. > It does have an 800 number, so you could phone the operative and ask for > Greek Music & Video. Maybe they even have a website by now--I haven't > looked. So there you have it. I didn't see anyone else answer this. Here's an Eleftheria web page I just now found: http://tigger.stcloud.msus.edu/~rrothaus/arvanita/arvan.htm Now, I must thank you from the bottom of my heart for turning me on to Haris Alexiou all those years ago. I saw her in concert recently and was in awe of her. She performed at the Medinah Temple here in Chicago and it was a concert for the ages. Even though I was stuck way up in the nosebleed section, I was still transfixed and mesmerized. I had binoculars with me which came in handy. I also taped the show, but could kick myself for not sneaking a videocamera in. I (luckily) found out about the concert by pure chance. I was on a city bus and it stopped at a stop light. I happened to look over and noticed, in the window of a Greek restaurant, a poster saying "In concert - Haris Alexiou" !!!! I had to be somewhere, but later I took that same bus, got off at that stop, and copied down the information. I never saw it advertised anywhere in the usual places I find out about shows, so I really did luck out. Mingling outside before they opened the doors, mingling inside before I found my seat, and mingling outside after the concert, I swear I never heard one word of English. I may very well have been the only non-Greek descended person there. Haris chattered quite a bit from the stage, but only spoke Greek too. I wish you'd been with me to tell me what she was saying. The audience loved it all! Of course, all the songs were in Greek so I have no idea what any of them were about, but it hardly mattered. Everything was just wonderful. The music, the band (especially the violin and mandolin players), the beautiful lights (Vari-lights), Haris's voice nd delivery and presence, just wonderful! The show wasn't sold out, but the floor and 1st balcony was packed, and the whole middle section of the top balcony, my balcony, was full. She obviously loves Loreena McKennitt because Loreena was playing on the sound system before the concert started, and Haris also covered a song, "Tango To Evora" from _The Visit_, during the show. I take it she's released the song as a single, writing Greek lyrics for the song. I like how the concert was done. There was a man touring with her (his name was on the poster but I didn't catch what it was) but instead of "opening" for her, Haris came out first and sang about 10 songs. Then, he came out and sang about 10 or so songs. (I'm sure he's very well-known and popular in the Greek community based on how the audience, especially the younger people, reacted during his part of the show.) Then he left and Haris came back on and sang another 10 or so songs. The band (quite large, 9 -I think- musicians) never stopped playing through the changeovers. Then he came back on and Haris and he sang together. It was a wonderful way to "share" the show while giving Haris the more prominent role. For one of the encores (IIRC), even the backup singer got to lead a song. I don't know who she was, but she was a beautiful woman with a very beautiful voice, more ethereal like Eleftheria's voice than earthy like Haris. (I thought, "wouldn't it be funny if the background singer *was* Eleftheria and I didn't know it?" but I bet Eleftheria alone could fill up as big a hall as Haris and wouldn't need to sing backup for anyone.) Haris did introduce every band member, but I couldn't understand anything she said and I was too shy to go up to someone and ask for names after the concert. I was quite interested in the audience, obviously quite an upscale group, considering my nosebleed seat cost $30.00 and floor seats went for at least $70.00. It was also very eclectic age-wise, ranging from children to teenagers to NPR-ish to the elderly. Clapping is very popular, and it's not this wimpy white bread rock show clapping, where people start and then peter out after about 30 seconds. This audience clapped throughout entire songs! They also were big for singing along, which might have been distracting had there been a bunch of people around me, but I happened to be alone in my aisle, there was no one in front of me (I was in the front row of the top balcony corner) and the people behind me moved when they spotted open seats in a different section. As it was, the sound system was killer good, and so Haris's and the guy's voices were loud and clear, and the audience's singing worked as a background choir. Very cool! The sing-along was especially fervent in the last part of the show, and during the encores. During one of the encore songs everyone stayed standing up and I still wonder if it was the Greek National Anthem or something just as revered. So anyway, I just wanted to thank you Angelos. It was a great experience and I'm so glad I was able to go. I've found a bunch of web pages while working on updating my SIG/Ecto Artists pages (woewoewoefully badly out-of-date). http://www.bayarea.net/~jbunik/corb_haris.htm (that one includes something you wrote, which mentions Happy!!) http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Palladium/1088/index.htm http://www.ark21.com/mondo_melodia/Artists/haris_alexiou/haris_alexiou.htm http://www.ark21.com/mondo_melodia/Artists/haris_alexiou/haris_alexiou_bio.htm Vickie DIVX = GREED - Boycott Circuit City! ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 May 1998 09:55:47 -0400 (EDT) From: aardvark of destiny Subject: Veda Very Shining Sorry to clog up your mailboxes one more time... *but* I just got a promo/review copy of Veda Hille's _Spine_ a few weeks ago. All I'd heard about Miz Veda was from lists like this one, no "real" press or anything. The first thing that struck me about the CD was the packaging -- like the _War Against Silence_ guy said on his website, it was kinda repulsive when you looked closer and realised the "Spine" placard was sewn onto her. (Then again, I put myself into those situations when I look at pictures like that and think, "wow, if I did that it would really hurt!") The music itself is pleasant, which probably sounds like damning with faint praise. I have a feeling I'm going to have to see her live for so much of these songs to go beyond the pleasant stage and actually register with me. I like her dark, aphoristic songwriting and strong voice, but some of the songs sound like tributes to other songwriters I like. Which isn't necessarily an insult, since it's not as blatant as, say, Jewel's "tributes" to Ani and Tori...I can actually hear Veda underneath. (Please write me off-list if you want to hear my full-on Jewel rant. I really dislike her, but I don't want to post it here because I don't want to start a flame war. I don't like her, but my hatred of her will only make you guys more indignant in your love of her. I'll listen to what I want and you can listen to what you want, okay? ^_^ Now, back to our regularly-scheduled Veda.) There are sections of the first song that sound like Tori's new single, and parts of "6 Feet of Silence" remind me of Nina Simone's "Four Women". My opinion of Veda is overall favourable, though a bit lukewarm. _Spine_ made me want to seek out more of her stuff, which is hardly a bad thing. Oh yeah, I got some mad money for my birthday and plan on invading some local record stores. One of the artists I've been wanting to seek out is Abra Moore, but I don't know which is a good record to start with. What do you guys recommend? Other stuff I plan on purchasing includes the new Apples in Stero elpee, the previous Neutral Milk Hotel album (cos it has a song about Naomi Yang, who was in one of my all-time favourite bands, Galaxie 500!), the Jeff Buckley odds and sods, perhaps the Henrys albums with M2OH, and maybe some old vinyl (Salem 66!). Okay, I'm off for good this time... - --Chelsea - ---- Chelsea, the mod pixie home: work: tugboat@channel1.com odyshape@hotmail.com "Love reads like a bad biograpphy/all the names are changed to protect the innocent." -- William Finn (via Mendel), "Love is Blind" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 May 1998 10:06:37 -0400 From: Jeff Wasilko Subject: Re: Veda Very Shining On Sat, May 30, 1998 at 09:55:47AM -0400, aardvark of destiny wrote: > Oh yeah, I got some mad money for my birthday and plan on invading some > local record stores. One of the artists I've been wanting to seek out is > Abra Moore, but I don't know which is a good record to start with. What do I'd suggest Sing. Strangest Places comes of as pretty bland pop to me... - -jeff n.p. Natalie Merchant, Opheilia ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 May 1998 10:44:33 -0700 From: "deighmunne a.k.a. damange" Subject: ectopinions please hello! a rare post from your friendly neighbourhood damon! so, two artists i've become curious about, and would appreciate any comments. of course, i don't think i'll be making any purchases until i move back to vancouver (i'm in n. syracuse, NY, right now, for the summer - prices here are just too high for someone from the Land of the Cheap CDs). first, adiemus - i've really only heard one or two songs, but they seem intriguing. as for similar tastes, well, i love both of deep forest's albums; i suppose i still like enigma and enya when i like them, but i've rarely listened to either over the past few years - enya became a bit boring soon after i discovered kate bush and most of my present musical tastes, and i don't know what it is about enigma... almost too pretentious without the extra spark that makes it worthwhile, if that makes any sense. however, i find myself lately craving new music along those lines - sort of new agey "carpets of sound" stuff. i adore delerium and dead can dance, if there's any comparison there. second, jean michel jarre. anyone care to comment on him? i've been mildly curious about him for a *long* time, but never enough to actually go find an album to buy. i've just heard one or two bits and pieces over the years and thought gee, if everything he does is like that, i could really like him. i don't know if there's any comparison to draw here, but i'm reasonably fond of vangelis' more interesting work. it's been a very sad year for the originator of the term EWS, music-wise; i think i've accumulated maybe four new cds over the span of it. what's happening to me? - -damon Damon Harper des Jumeaux _/\_ "Verbosity is the refuge of those damon@pobox.com __\ /__ who have nothing original to say" Les Jums: jumeaux@pobox.com \ / -- Weldon http://pobox.com/~jumeaux/ |/||\| Reasonable Doubts ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 May 98 11:31:27 -0400 From: cjmacs Subject: mary margaret o'hara (and more) live in nyc hi all! just spotted this in the village voice (did i miss a posting on this here?): thursday june 11th 7pm a benefit for arts at st. ann's with: jimmy scott mary margaret o'hara garth hudson cyrus chestnut john kelly jazz passengers w/debbie harry fontella bass corey harris tix n info: 718 858 2424 also, at the bottom line: monday june 29th maddy prior and friends with kathryn tickell damn damn damn!i missed out on tickets for natalie merchant at the supper club on sunday june 14th! (a benefit for the center for constitutional rights and the southern center for human rights) BUT i did just get tori tickets for springfield symphony hall (row E, center orch) and also for oakdale in wallingford ct (row J, center orch) ;-) i wonder how those of us that waited on line at oakdale did? chuck n.p.: arson garden: wisteria "My dolly wets and yours doesn't!" - -Roberta Joan Anderson ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 May 1998 11:10:58 -0500 From: kerrywhite@webtv.net (kerry white) Subject: Re: ectopinions please Hi, If you're in N Syracuse, you should have no trouble finding Knuckleheads, a wonderful used cd store. I have even found KaTe vinyl singles there! I drive back to Syracuse from Kansas each summer and that is always on the itinerary! Oliver's on the SU campus is another fun place! Luck!! bye, KrW TV or not TV? That is the question. To suffer the lies of outrageous pitchmen, or to slit your throat with an electro-coated stainless steel blade? ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 May 1998 14:00:01 -0400 From: meredith Subject: Re: Nick Drake (and veda, now, too) Hi! Java reported: >Funny you should mention Nick Drake, I keep meaning to throw his name out here >on ecto and see what comes up. I was in Borders a couple of weeks ago, and >there was a new guy working the music area. We got to talking, and I was >throwing out the names of some artists I had been listening to. He said, >"Hey...have you ever heard of Happy Rhodes?" Keep in mind, here, that I'm in >Kansas City. ... in which case, that makes perfect sense. :) I'm surprised Vickie hasn't jumped in here - she did a show for years on, um, was it KCFI (don't kill me for not remembering the call letters :), called "Suspended in Gaffa". The weekly playlists she posted on rec.music.gaffa were my main introduction to artists like Jane Siberry, Sarah McLachlan, and yes, Happy Rhodes way before ecto even existed. I would take those playlists and use them to pick music for my own fledgling college radio show. Somewhere around here I've got a copy of Happy's first radio interview, which Vickie conducted on New Year's Day um, 1989?, right there in Kansas City. I think it's fair to say that for a long time, the only airplay Happy had ever gotten was in KC thanks to Vickie, and I'll bet if Happy's tour goes through there, it'll be well-attended by lots of long-time fans because of that. While I'm here: chelsea reviewed: >*but* I just got a promo/review copy of Veda Hille's _Spine_ a few weeks >ago. All I'd heard about Miz Veda was from lists like this one, no "real" >press or anything. The first thing that struck me about the CD was the >packaging -- like the _War Against Silence_ guy said on his website, it was >kinda repulsive when you looked closer and realised the "Spine" placard was >sewn onto her. I still get the willies whenever I look at it. The shocked reactions it's getting down here are really cracking Veda up, too. :) >(Then again, I put myself into those situations when I look >at pictures like that and think, "wow, if I did that it would really >hurt!") People don't think she *really* sewed that label on, do they?!? >The music itself is pleasant, which probably sounds like damning >with faint praise. I have a feeling I'm going to have to see her live for >so much of these songs to go beyond the pleasant stage and actually >register with me. Give it time. _Spine_ took about a month to grow on me, and to be honest I tend to pick _Path Of A Body_ or _Here Is A Picture_ off the shelf more often. But when I do listen to it, I love every minute (except for "Six Feet of Silence", which I skip more often than not). And yes, if you ever get the chance, you *must* see her play live. >My opinion of Veda is overall favourable, though a >bit lukewarm. _Spine_ made me want to seek out more of her stuff, which is >hardly a bad thing. Definitely. If you can, order _Path Of A Body_. I think that will register with you more quickly. +==========================================================================+ | Meredith Tarr meth@smoe.org | | New Haven, CT USA http://www.smoe.org/~meth | +==========================================================================+ | "things are more beautiful when they're obscure" -- veda hille | | *** TRAJECTORY: the Veda Hille mailing list *** | | *** http://www.smoe.org/meth/trajectory.html *** | +==========================================================================+ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 May 1998 14:52:48 -0400 From: Paul Blair Subject: Re: mary margaret o'hara (and more) live in nyc chuck wrote: >thursday june 11th 7pm > >a benefit for arts at st. ann's >with: > >jimmy scott >mary margaret o'hara >garth hudson >cyrus chestnut >john kelly >jazz passengers w/debbie harry >fontella bass >corey harris > >tix n info: 718 858 2424 I have it written down that Susan McKeown was going to appear at this. Anyone know if this has been canceled? BTW, where is St. Ann's?? - --Paul ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 May 1998 14:23:17 -0500 From: kerrywhite@webtv.net (kerry white) Subject: June 1st Prarie Home Companion Hi, On June 1st PHC on NPR will be live from KC. A featured singer will be Kelly Hunt, from Lawrence,KS. Her cd, which is a "bit" old, reminds me of Bonnie Raitt without the slide. bye, KrW TV or not TV? That is the question. To suffer the lies of outrageous pitchmen, or to slit your throat with an electro-coated stainless steel blade? ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 May 1998 14:59:35 -0500 From: "Xenu's Sister" Subject: Radio show (Re: Nick Drake (and veda, now, too) At 02:00 PM 5/30/98 -0400, meredith wrote: >Hi! > >Java reported: > >>Funny you should mention Nick Drake, I keep meaning to throw his name out >here >>on ecto and see what comes up. I was in Borders a couple of weeks ago, and >>there was a new guy working the music area. We got to talking, and I was >>throwing out the names of some artists I had been listening to. He said, >>"Hey...have you ever heard of Happy Rhodes?" Keep in mind, here, that I'm in >>Kansas City. > >... in which case, that makes perfect sense. :) I'm surprised Vickie >hasn't jumped in here - Oh my, teach me to blow by posts too quickly. It's a bad habit to read too fast and jump around within the post. Sorry Java! >she did a show for years on, um, was it KCFI (don't >kill me for not remembering the call letters :), KKFI, but that's ok :-). Java, if you see this guy again, ask him how he heard about Happy. >called "Suspended in >Gaffa". The weekly playlists she posted on rec.music.gaffa were my main >introduction to artists like Jane Siberry, Sarah McLachlan, and yes, Happy >Rhodes way before ecto even existed. I would take those playlists and use >them to pick music for my own fledgling college radio show. Wow thank you for saying so. Those were the good old days. >Somewhere >around here I've got a copy of Happy's first radio interview, which Vickie >conducted on New Year's Day um, 1989?, right there in Kansas City. Yeah, it was a phone interview, and I was so so so terribly awful. I was completely unprepared, very nervous, very intimidated...not by Happy, she's a sweetheart, but by the live situation and by my interviewing skills next to Happy's intelligence. I was mumbling and sounding way too stupid while Happy was so articulate, funny and interesting. (I'm not just putting myself down for no reason. It *honestly* was that bad.) For the tape I sent out, I edited down the interview to the bare minimum of me speaking, and it came out *much* better. > I think >it's fair to say that for a long time, the only airplay Happy had ever >gotten was in KC thanks to Vickie, and I'll bet if Happy's tour goes >through there, it'll be well-attended by lots of long-time fans because of >that. I hope so, if Samson does a lot of publicity in the right places. I know I'd be there in Kansas City for it, sitting right beside Java probably. I wouldn't miss it for anything. Vickie Lisa McPherson Memorial Page http://www.primenet.com/~cultxpt/lisa.htm ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 May 1998 18:35:43 EDT From: JavaHo@aol.com Subject: Re: Nick Drake--was Re: Sandy Denny Yves chimes in with: << n.p.: Nick Drake _Way to blue_ which is a compilation. It's funny how ectosynchronicity strikes again! >> Yes...that's the one I heard. And I know this because I just returned from Borders with CD in hand thanks to the $10.99 list price. It has a ton of tracks. Java ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 May 1998 19:11:00 -0400 From: "Jeffrey C. Burka" Subject: Re: mary margaret o'hara (and more) live in nyc cjmacs wrote: > maddy prior and friends > with kathryn tickell ooh, kathryn tickell. she plays northumbrian pipes and has appeared on Sting's _The Soul Cages_, in addition to her solo albums (I've written about her on ecto before, maybe 5 or 6 years ago; I've got her _On Kielder Side_, which is a pretty cool disc of traditional material) jeff ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 May 1998 22:21:59 -0700 From: "deighmunne a.k.a. damange" Subject: nina hagen oh, and another thing - if there's anyone out there who would like to see nina hagen's album _fearless_ on cd (something i've wanted for a *long* time - i have a taped copy and absolutely adore it, but i haven't really gotten into anything else of hers i've heard) there's a "fearless re-release petition" online at http://www.geocities.com/~tiere/petition.htm - - not sure how effective it'll be, but hey. just thought i'd mention it in case. heck, even if you don't care about the album, do it for me. ;) further proof that if you wait long enough *anything* will turn up online... - -damon Damon Harper des Jumeaux _/\_ "Verbosity is the refuge of those damon@pobox.com __\ /__ who have nothing original to say" Les Jums: jumeaux@pobox.com \ / -- Weldon http://pobox.com/~jumeaux/ |/||\| Reasonable Doubts ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 May 1998 22:45:29 -0500 From: Carolyn Andre Subject: St. Ann's /Mary Margaret O'Hara / McKeown, etc. At 11:31 AM 5/30/98 -0400, cjmacs wrote: > >hi all! > >just spotted this in the village voice (did i miss a posting on this >here?): > >thursday june 11th 7pm > >a benefit for arts at st. ann's >with: > >jimmy scott >mary margaret o'hara >garth hudson >cyrus chestnut >john kelly >jazz passengers w/debbie harry >fontella bass >corey harris > >tix n info: 718 858 2424 and then someone else (sorry - "delete" was too quick) posted that Susan McKeown was listed for this date. Ok, the scoop is: its the same event. Susan is one of the many talented performers appearing at this gig! so go & put it on your calendars . Regards, Carolyn Andre - ------------------- Chicago, IL / USA | Support Independent Music! Use the Internet candre@enteract.com | Carolyn's House of Music: http://house-of-music.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 May 1998 23:03:18 +0000 From: BarBearUh Subject: dylan, morrison & mitchell i've been encouraged by another ectophile and joniphile to post my review of the shows i attended in LA last week. this review was originally written for the joni mitchell list, so there may be some assumptions made in familiarity with her work. it's rather long, so page down repeatedly if you're not interested: I couldn't be happier with my LA experiences (both nights at Pauley and Saturday at the Pond). Just the bill alone was enough for me, having adored Bob, Joni and Van for most of my life. It was Joni i came out to see, and all said and done, it's Joni I'm the happiest I got to experience. But... I must admit that if I had to rate my adoration for these folks, Van would come last, but if I had to honestly rate the shows, Van was the winner hands down every night. His shows were just amazing. The band was sooooo tight, and the shows were very spontaneous. There were a handful of songs that got played every night, but every night there were many surprises. Every time he finished one, Van would call out the next song. Between the three nights, he covered so many of my favorite songs of his I could probably only name 2 or 3 that would round it out completely for me. THURSDAY It was a little frustrating seeing Van the first night. People were still being seated through most of the set, which prevented the audience energy from getting focused. The show was fabulous; a highlight being a great rendition of "Satisfied" from "Common One". He also did an inpired version of Frank Sinatra's "That's Life". Just seeing Joni was enough for me. After 15 years, the excitement of waiting for her to come out on stage the first night was a magic moment. She looked lovely (I'll leave fashion descriptions to others who I'm sure can pull it off better than I can). The guitar sound she had was beautiful and the band sounded great. I had kept myself away from the JMDL so that I'd have a fresh experience and I wouldn't know the set list. I thought the choice for an opener, "Night Ride Home" was weak. The lyrics worked as an opening theme ("...a night like this..."), but I thought "Harlem in Havana" would have been a better choice (and I was disappointed this never got played). I thought it would have been better to grab the audience with something like "Cotton Avenue" or "In France they Kiss on Main Street" or "You Turn Me On". That said, "Night Ride Home" was played beautifully, and I thoroughly enjoyed it. Joni introduced a lot of the songs, and "Crazy Cries of Love" got at least a few sentences every night. I loved that she'd returned to this folk tradition of addressing the audience so often - I think it helped keep attention, offering those not so familiar something to grab onto. I was psyched that she played one of my favorites, "Harry's House" next. I was totally surprised by "Slouching Towards Bethlehem". Given the rich production of this song on the album, I wasn't expecting to hear it live. I was so impressed by how well it was done, largely due to the skills of Brian Blade and Larry Klein (and although every night's performance of this song was excellent, Thursday's seemed best). I couldn't keep my eyes off Brian Blade; his drumming was nothing less than perfect all night, every night. He really made "Slouching" come alive. I also noticed during "Hejira" that he started by playing the drums very subtly with his hands and later brought in the sticks. He was positioned on the right side of the stage, in profile, so you could really watch him play. That was a great decision - it added more to look at (that is, if you ever got tired of studying Joni's sweet face). The setlist was overall, pretty thrilling for me. "Slouching Towards Bethlehem" and "Black Crow" were enough to send me home happy. I personally could have traded in some songs for my personal favorites (all non-"hits"), but I thought it was a very well chosen set, with one exception. Playing "Hejira" on the tail of "Amelia" seemed like a big mistake to me. Both were done beautifully, and I enjoyed every minute, but it was way too mellow for the crowd to handle. Inevitably, all three nights, people were getting up and down and milling about by the middle of "Hejira". It was a shame, because the performance was excellent, and Brian Blade again had a lot to offer. In the end, I'd give her a mixed review for this show. She seemed a little psyched out the entire time. Her voice was weak in spots, cracking from time to time. She messed up the Bob's lyric section of "Big Yellow Taxi", which caused her to mess up some more afterwards. It took her a while to get her guitar playing into the groove of the next song. I walked out thinking, "She's not going to tour after this; she's not feeling confident enough." That's not what caused me to feel mixed about it, though. What I missed is the energy of her '79 and '83 shows. I missed Wayne Shorter - there was some color missing without any horns or piano. I felt a little bored with the guitar sound by the end of the show. Although it was a lovely sound, I would have liked some piano and some acoustic guitar from time to time. I know the lack of piano and acoustic guitar had a lot to do with making the show set up efficient, but even a different programmed sound on the VG-8 would have sufficed in mixing it up a little (she used the same basic sound as on her Lettermen/Leno TV appearances). The crowd was practically out of control for Dylan. People were dancing wildly all over the place, though I found it one of the least inspiring Dylan shows I've seen. I'm a bit jaded though - those three may have made me hit the 35th time I've seen the guy, and it's gotten a bit old for me. I only get at most two songs I haven't heard him do at least a few times, and I've gotten very tired of his current band. I can't stand "Silvio" and I don't know how the band can play it every night without falling asleep. But the crowd LOVED it, like it was the best thing he'd ever written, so maybe it's just me. My biggest joy was that he didn't do "Like a Rolling Stone", which is rarely missing. I also loved hearing him do anything new. "Love Sick" was great. "Rank Strangers" was a standout in the acoustic set. One thing I came to realize finally for sure is that Dylan (or whoever his engineer is) mixes way too loud. The sound for both Van and Joni was great. Just think of how many times someone talks at a mike in a big place and you can't (or can barely) understand them. Joni stood up at the mike telling stories, and you could hear every word. Van's sound was really well mixed - even with his tendency to mumble, I caught words I'd never understood on his albums. Every one of the eight instruments could be distinguished from the rest. But when Bob came on, it was muddy, and I'm convinced the vocals and guitar are just allowed to max out. I was watching all the mixers at work, and I could see some of the tracks peaking constantly during Bob's set. I've always had trouble with this at the past 10 years worth of shows and I finally saw it in a way I could pin down. FRIDAY Joni's always said that sequencing is very important. This was my favorite night for two major reasons. One is that Dylan went first, making the energy flow better. After the loud, raucous Dylan show, I think the audience was happy to relax with Joni. The audience was quieter and more focused for her set. Plus, Van got to go all the way at the end. It was his best show of the three nights. The other reason is the way I saw the show. When we got there, it turned out that our seats had vanished. We were supposed to be sitting right next to the sound board, but the equipment had taken more space than planned. The ushers didn't quite know what to do with us. They kept putting us in seats on the floor where within 5 minutes, someone would show up with the tickets for those seats and we'd be bumped. After the third time, my friend put up a fuss and we ended up in the concierges' rest seats - uncomfy little things WAY up front. We were seated about 10 rows in front of Rob Reiner, at the very bottom of the bleachers - first row of them right next to the stage. It was like being in 3rd row off to the side with no one in front of you. I can't tell you what a difference it made in really being able to see Joni's every facial expression. I was grinning ear to ear the entire night. I didn't really take in the Dylan show that night. We were too busy being moved around. Joni was much more confident and in better voice. Our seats were somewhat distracting because we were right next to the backstage gate, and there was always something going on, but I was transfixed. I was so damn happy the whole night. Part of it goes back to sequencing. It seemed I was more excited every night. You'd think once you saw it, it'd be the opposite, but I was anticipating the whole thing with more unbridled joy by the day. I think this is also true of who goes on last. The first night, people mostly sat through Van's show and went absolutely wild for Dylan. The second night, it was the opposite (though clearly there were more Dylan fans than not, so it wasn't in complete equal balance). Another great thing about my perspective that night was that right in my line of view, behind and above Joni, was the silhouette of a spinner. By that, I mean one of those DeadHeads that spends most of a concert spinning. She was doing a lovely spin dance thru Joni's entire set, moving her arms eloquently to the music. She was dancing backlit in one of the entranceways, on an upper deck. It made a nice addition to my visuals, the only drawback of which was that I could only see a little bit of Brian. "Hejira" stands out as something particularly wonderful that night. I could have flown away during "Black Crow" - it was rocking, it was jazzy, it was flying. There was incredible energy in that groove. Van just blew the roof off that night. He did "Summertime in England", something I'd have never guessed as a possibility. I could have died right there and then a happy woman. Everything he did that night was totally inspired, with the band as inseparable from him as his shadow. SATURDAY Another good set of seats - 18th row from the BDTS. The show started off with Brian Kennedy singing "Sweet Thing" and another Van song I can't remember at the moment. As much as I loved him singing with Van, I didn't like hearing him cover Van songs. Even though he was with the same band, it sounded rather muzaky with him fronting the band. I think Van's growl serves to balance the beauty of the music with some rawness; and Kennedy can only offer up beauty (I should be so lucky to sing like that!). Van did "Cypress Avenue" and "No Guru, No Method, No Teacher" that night, practically sending me through the clouds. Then Joni, with ever-increasing confidence. She seemed more and more comfortable by the night. The only thing that bummed me out that night was the Orange County conservative vibe. The security guards were prowling like Nazi's, getting after everyone who dared step more than a foot into the aisles. Their presence was so incredibly noticeable - it was distracting. That didn't stop me from digging Joni, though. It was a bit anticlimactic to get cut short and deprived of "Moon at the Window". I love her guitar playing on that. I had never really paid much attention to that song until it showed up on a tape tree and I caught on to the wonderful swing of the guitar part. That swing had been very much a part of the way she'd played it in the previous shows. "Woodstock" - the encore. Well, I have to admit that I've never cared for Joni's version. I was so familiar with CSN's by the time that I heard Joni's years later, it was just too mellow for me. But there was something very poignant and non-retro about her closing with this song. It seems like we could still take some of that message to heart - it is not dated to say we still need to find our way "back to the garden". Her exquisite guitar playing with the VG-8 made this song refreshing and new. Joni was followed by what I thought was by far the best Bob show of the three nights. The set was a little more varied, and there was just something about his energy that was right that night. I'm still jealous that I didn't get to see him do "Senor". I've only seen him do that song twice - once in '78 and once in the mid-80s with the Dead, which was embarrassingly bad. I heard he did that in Vancouver or at the Gorge. All said and done, I wish I had had the time and money to go to every show. I know I would have had a great time seeing all the west coast along with some of the most memorable musical moments of my life (how's that for alliteration?). barbara np: joni, bjork, van, dave matthews & bob on random play ------------------------------ End of ecto-digest V4 #171 **************************