From: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org (ecto-digest) To: ecto-digest@smoe.org Subject: ecto-digest V4 #170 Reply-To: ecto@smoe.org Sender: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Saturday, May 30 1998 Volume 04 : Number 170 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Iva Bittova web page [alundra@GILA.NET (Larry J. Hernandez)] Fwd: Lilith tix on-sales for the end of May, Bryant Park, andLetterman... [Riphug@aol.c] Lilith (Gorge) ticket for sale [00jnweiser@bsuvc.bsu.edu] Sandy Denny Live CD & article [ABershaw@aol.com] Dar Willams news [Michael Curry ] Re: Fleadh '98 [EDANDKATHYCLARK ] The Nields/10KM in NYC [meredith ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 23:04:53 -0700 From: alundra@GILA.NET (Larry J. Hernandez) Subject: Re: Iva Bittova web page Vickie wrote: > (Did I scoop the awesome Riphug??? Wow!) Wow! That'll never happen again. ;) > http://www.unibase.cz/relax/Art_Zoyd/Iva_Bittova/Iva_Bittova.html > > Unfortunately, most of it is in Czech, but there are some cool > photos. Thanks, Vickie. Iva is being noticed more and more. Ecto is so cool in that respect-so many times an artist has been brought up and discussed here weeks or months before they are given coverage by music media. For example, this week's Derk Richardson's "Hear and Now" SF Chron column includes info (some of which I'm sure was gleaned from Neile's always-excellent capsulization- a link to the 'Guide is included :) as well as a RealAudio clip of "Strange Young Lady" from the Nonesuch release: http://www.sfgate.com/eguide/music/derk/ Some of the violin reminds me of Eddie Jobson's playing with the band UK. But I'd bet there's no connection... :) There's also some Joni-talk (and sing) in this week's column. Larry (alundra@gila.net) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 23:32:37 EDT From: Riphug@aol.com Subject: Fwd: Lilith tix on-sales for the end of May, Bryant Park, andLetterman... This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - --part0_896412757_boundary Content-ID: <0_896412757@inet_out.mail.aol.com.1> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII - --part0_896412757_boundary Content-ID: <0_896412757@inet_out.mail.aol.com.2> Content-type: message/rfc822 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-disposition: inline Return-Path: Received: from relay30.mx.aol.com (relay30.mail.aol.com [172.31.109.30]) by air08.mail.aol.com (v43.17) with SMTP; Thu, 28 May 1998 18:20:15 -0400 Received: from yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au [130.194.9.1]) by relay30.mx.aol.com (8.8.5/8.8.5/AOL-4.0.0) with ESMTP id SAA23750; Thu, 28 May 1998 18:19:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (8.8.8/8.8.4) id IAA20725 for fte-outgoing; Fri, 29 May 1998 08:15:42 +1000 (EST) Received: from budd.nettwerk.com (budd.nettwerk.com [209.17.154.2]) by yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (8.8.8/8.8.4) with ESMTP id IAA31092 for ; Fri, 29 May 1998 08:15:37 +1000 (EST) Received: from [209.17.154.48] ([209.17.154.48]) by budd.nettwerk.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA09252; Thu, 28 May 1998 11:29:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: info@nettwerk.com (Unverified) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 11:33:35 -0700 To: Recipient List Suppressed:; From: Nettwerk Productions Subject: Lilith tix on-sales for the end of May, Bryant Park, and Letterman... X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au id IAA00540 Sender: owner-fumbling-towards-ecstasy@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au Precedence: bulk Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Hey everyone... Here's all the news that's new and improved... Tickets for Lilith Fair 98 will be going on-sale for the following shows this week: * Shakopee, MN @ Canterbury Park - tix go on sale *Fri.May 29th* * Toronto, ONT @ Molson Amphitheatre - tix go on sale *Sat.May 30th* (both shows) Tickets for these shows will be available through Ticketmaster on those days. Call them for any further details. For those of you thinking of attending the Ottawa show at Landsdowne Park, I should point out that tickets are NOT being sold through Ticketmaster, but are in fact being sold through ADMISSION TICKETS. For further ticketing info, you can contact them at 613-237-3800 or 1-800-361-4595. A couple of shows have sold out now: these include the first show at the Gorge in Washington State on *Saturday, June 20th*. As well, the first two shows in Detroit at the Pine Knob have sold out. Those sold out dates are *Monday, July 6th* and *Tuesday, July 7th*. Tickets are currently still available for the third show on *Wednesday, July 8th*. In other news, Sarah will be in New York City at Bryant Park on the evening of *Monday, June 1st* to perform a special free benefit mini-concert in conjunction with Levi's, one of the sponsors of this year's Lilith Fair. The company will donate $1 for each concert attendee to the New York-based West End Young Women's Shelter. People wanting to attend can also donate a pair of old jeans as 'admission', which will also be donated to the shelter. If you're in Times Square that evening, be sure to look for the unveiling of a billboard with Sarah on it via video screen just prior to her performance at 8:50pm. Sarah will perform four songs for this event. The show will actually begin at 8pm. Other performers scheduled to play before Sarah are Levi's/Lilith Fair Talent Search winner's Eden White and Antigone Rising. Rebekah will also be performing, just before Sarah. Later that night, Sarah will be seen on The Late Show With David Letterman, performing 'Angel'. And later that same week, Emmylou Harris, Natalie Merchant, the Indigo Girls, Rebekah and Luscious Jackson (all performing at this year's Lilith Fair) will be seen on Letterman on *Friday, June 5th* to perform the song 'Water Is Wide'. Sarah will not be a part of this particular performance, in case you're wondering. And finally, US music video station VH1 will be re-broadcasting their 'Behind The Music' special on Lilith Fair '97 on *Sunday, May 31st* at 9am (EST). Thanks for reading. Peace. (Phil Hartman R.I.P.) Armand S. Internet Services Nettwerk Productions info@nettwerk.com www.nettwerk.com Lilith Fair - a celebration of women in music as envisioned by Sarah McLachlan! The Lilith Fair Live double-CD is now out in Canada and the U.S.!! Visit the Lilith Fair website at: http://lilithfair.com Coming soon from Madrigal Press! "From Lilith To Lilith Fair" by Buffy Childerhose - the story of the origins of the first Lilith Fair tour with exclusive interviews with the participants of the first tour, and rare photos, as well as a foreward by Sarah McLachlan! - - This has been a post from the fumbling-towards-ecstasy list. To unsubscribe from this list, send a message containing 'unsubscribe fumbling-towards-ecstasy' to Majordomo@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au. To send a message to the list, send it to fte@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au. - --part0_896412757_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 12:38:55 -0500 (EST) From: 00jnweiser@bsuvc.bsu.edu Subject: Lilith (Gorge) ticket for sale Hey guys, I have a lawn seat for the Gorge Lilith (June 20th) that I'm trying to sell since I can't make it after all. It's going for face value, which I believe was around $38 or something, I can't remember. But if you're interested, please email me and I'll let you know. Thanks! : Jessica ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 14:34:23 EDT From: ABershaw@aol.com Subject: Sandy Denny Live CD & article Hi all, I know we have several Sandy Denny fans here. You will enjoy this repost from "Irish Times" website. Also, FINALLY after 20 years, Sandy's final gig has just been released & its a wonderful addition to her vast catalogue. I highly recommend it! There's also an extensive article on Sandy's life & music in the new (June98) issue of MOJO magazine for those interested. The article from "Irish Times" follows. Alan "SISTER, YOU'RE A POET" Sleeve notes by Brian Boyd A mysterious album called The BBC Sessions, on the Strange Fruit label and featuring the voice of Sandy Denny, was released for a period of 24 hours last year. Various lawyers from various record companies had it pulled from the Shelves of the record shops after its all-too-brief availability, but still The BBC sessions made it on to many a critic's "best albums of the year" list. The fascination with Sandy Denny continues apace. Called the finest British female singer of the last three decades (and when the competition includes Maggie Bell, Norma Watterson and June Tabor, that ain't half bad) she helped break down the "folk" and "rock" boundaries, mainly through her work with Richard Thompson in Fairport Convention, And was seen as a home-grown answer to Joan Baez and Joni Mitchell. Now cited by both Blur and Sonic Youth as "the best female rock singer ever", her life has disturbing parallels with that of Nick Drake: both were English singer-songwriters, both were fixated on morbid themes, both died at an early age and both have only been truly acknowledged decades after their death. It wasn't just her awesome voice that propelled her into "retro cult", it was the quality of her s ongwriting - lyrical and romantic but always with a Emily Dickinson type twist, she's probably best remembered for Who Knows Where The Time Goes (famously covered by Judy Collins) but there's a lot more to her than that. Born in 1947 and attending the same art college as Jimmy Page, she first made a name for herself on the thriving folk club circuit in London in the 1960s. Singing Tom Paxton covers as well as a rake of her own stuff, she soon tired of the folkie purists, or the "ethnic folkies" as she called them, and after one too many solo tours of Britain, she joined the then-unknown Strawbs (way before their Part Of The Union mini-success). Tiring of their limited sound, she auditioned for the band that were then the talk of the town, Fairport Convention. Innocently, she presmumed the band to be American due to their West Coast sound of soft folk-inflected rock and Byrds-like arrangements, but Sandy's strong, earthy voice soon brought them to a different level; she is credited with curbing some of their "ethnic" excesses and helping the band to cross over to contemporary music territory. Interestingly, she left the band when they decided they would take the purist path at the expense of original material, and she went on to form Fotheringay, who may only be a footnote in the history of popular music, but a pretty impressive footnote they remain. Her songwriting came to attract as much, if not more, attention as her voice, mainly because of her other-worldly lyrical ability. "The songs are biographical but only about 10 people can understand them," she once said. "I just take a story and whittle it down to essentials. I wouldn't write songs if they didn't mean something to me, but I'm not prepared to tell everyone about my private life like Joni Mitchell does. I like to be more elusive than that. Take John Lennon, I think he really blew his cool when he explained exactly how he wrote Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds." Towards the end of her life, she resumed her solo career, and albums like North Star Grassman And The Ravens (1971), which features the song John The Gun, remain as evocative and eloquent as ever - her powerful voice and poetic lyrics would probably have her sounding like ortishead, or maybe Garbage, if she was around today. On the eve of a massive American tour in 1978 and aged just 31, she fell down the stairs of a friend's house and lapsed into a coma from which she never awoke. A 1977 live album has just been released and is doing very nicely, thank you; and as more and more people get switched on to her wondrous voice and words, expect more and more of her material to be re-released, pending lawyers sorting everything out. Shameful that it took us 20 years to realise just how good she was. Gold Dust - "Sandy Denny Live At The Royalty" has just been released by Island/ Polygram Records. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 16:04:37 -0500 (CDT) From: Michael Curry Subject: Dar Willams news I thought this might be of interest... - ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 14:34:12 -0400 From: Young/Hunter Management To: dar-williams-announce@shore.net Subject: Dar Williams Announcement - 5/29 - Cry Cry Cry album out this fall! Hey all, The recording of Cry Cry Cry with Dar, Lucy Kaplansky, and Richard Shindell has been going great! The album is being produced by Darleen Wilson and Alan Williams with help from Larry Campbell. The end product will consist of twelve songs by some of today's best songwriters (The Nields, Cliff Eberhardt, Robert Earl Keen, Julie Miller and more) and it'll be out this fall on Razor & Tie. Keep your eyes open for Cry Cry Cry tour dates to be announced soon! Update on tour merchandise for this summer- there are going to be two BRAND NEW Dar t-shirts- a "Most of the Summer 1998" tour shirt, and a Hemp t-shirt (made from hemp and with a line from "The Pointless, Yet Poignant, Crisis of a Co-Ed" on it!). Designs are still in the works but, hopefully, both shirts will be available starting in June. Lastly (before I give you the latest tour schedule), a bit of "gossip" for you- over the next week or so, you might want to keep your eyes on the DarWeb (http://www.darwilliams.com). We have a rather interesting bit of Dar memerobilia that we're going to be auctioning off (yep, an Internet auction!) and we'll be putting a picture of it on the DarWeb before we open the bidding. Proceeds from the sale of the item will go to the Snowden Environmental Trust, the fund set up by Dar to aid wildlife preservation, environmental organizations, etc. And that's all we're going to say about that. :) Take care, Young/Hunter Management p.s. If you're a graduating university student and your school account is going to be disconnected at the end of the semester, please follow the unsubscribe directions at the end of this email before you leave for the summer. Save us all from a world of bouncing email! :) - -------------------------- DAR WILLIAMS TOUR SCHEDULE http://www.darwilliams.com * 'Real Life Songs' tour, with Richard Thompson & Bruce Cockburn ** 'Newport On The Road' tour 6/12 Wolf Trap, Vienna, VA, 7pm, 703-218-6500 w/ Richard Thompson & David Wilcox 6/13 Guinness Fleadh, New York, NY, 12:50pm, 212-307-7171 6/13 *Mann Center for Perf Arts, Philadelphia, PA, 8pm, 215-878-7707 6/14 Three Rivers Arts Festival, Pittsburgh, PA, 7:30pm, 412-481-7040 6/16 *Look Park, Northampton, MA, 6pm, 413-586-8686 6/17 *Merrill Auditorium, Portland, ME, 7:30pm, 207-874-8200 6/18 *Harborlights Pavilion, Boston, MA, 6:30pm, 617-374-9000 6/19 *Capital Center for the Arts, Concord, NH, 8pm, 603-225-1111 6/20 Guinness Fleadh, Arlington, IL, 312-559-1950 6/21 *Royal Oak Music Theatre, Royal Oak, MI, 7:30pm, 248-546-7610 7/17 Levitt Pavilion, Westport, CT, 8pm, 203-221-4422, w/ The Nields 7/18 Portsmouth Music Hall, Portsmouth, NH, 603-433-3100 7/19 Solar Fest, Middletown Springs, VT, 4pm, 802-235-2641 7/24-26, Falcon Ridge Folk Festival, Hillsdale, NY, 860-364-0366 7/30 **Lakewood Amphitheatre, Atlanta, GA 7/31 Trax, Charlottesville, VA, 9:30pm, 804-295-8729 8/9 Ben & Jerry's Folk Festival, Newport, RI, 401-847-3700 w/Ani DiFranco & Indigo Girls 8/14 **Charlotte, NC (details tba) 8/15 **Walnut Creek Amphitheatre, Raleigh, NC 8/16 Founders Title Folk Festival, Park City, UT, 801-339-7664 8/20 The Art Factory, Telluride, CO, 9pm, 970-728-0756 8/22 Rocky Mountain Folks Festival, Lyons, CO, 800-624-2422 8/25 Lilith Fair - Wolf Mountain, Salt Lake City, UT 8/26 Lilith Fair - The Idaho Center, Boise, ID 8/28 Lilith Fair - tba, Calgary AB 8/29 Lilith Fair - tba, Edmonton AB 8/31 Lilith Fair - Thunderbird, Vancouver BC 9/4 Bumbershoot, Seattle, WA, 206-281-8111 9/5 Rose Garden Ampitheatre, Portland, OR, 503-234-9694, w/J.Baez & B.Cockburn 9/6 Discovery Theatre, Anchorage, AK, 907-263-2787 More dates to be added after June 15! ***************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list, send an e-mail to: majordomo@shore.net with the following message in the body of the email: unsubscribe dar-williams-announce your@email.address ****************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 17:18:50 -0400 (EDT) From: EDANDKATHYCLARK Subject: Re: Fleadh '98 Well, Vickie, the worst thing from my point of view is this is happening in Chicago _while I'm there_, yet that's the day of the wedding I'm going to. Damn Damn Damn Damn Damn. K On Wed, 27 May 1998, Xenu's Sister wrote: > At 02:30 AM 5/27/98 -0500, I wrote: > > A bunch of blah *before* I go to the web and > check out the Fleadh web site and find out that > a lot of these people are not going to be at the > Chicago show. Damn. No Susan McKeown, no > Davy Spillane, no Rosanne Cash, no Patti Smith, > no Natalie MacMaster, Solas, Francis Dunnery, > Eileen Ivers, Chumbawamba, Loudon Wainright III, > Maura O'Connell. Damn I say, damn! Ah well, the whole > thing's worth it just for Sinead, Mary Coughlan, and > Capercaille. You folks on the East coast enjoy both > days. Chicago only gets one. Most places won't get > any, so I'm not complaining. (Well, except for the no > Susan Mckeown. I'll complain about that. I was really > looking forward to finally hearing/seeing her.) > > Vickie > > > > > > DIVX = GREED - Boycott Circuit City! > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 20:46:28 -0400 From: meredith Subject: The Nields/10KM in NYC Hi! As usual, The Nields figured in a wildly fun (and WAY too late) evening last night, this time at Wetlands in NYC. I desperately needed it too, after the day I'd had (and on top of all that I had to stop by a wake on the way from work to the train station - MAJOR downer :P). When woj and I got to Wetlands the friends we were supposed to meet were nowhere to be seen, but Patty Romanoff (TN's tour manager) and Nerissa Nields were hanging outside, and Nerissa said hello to me ("Hey, I know you!" :), which of course turned me into an instant blithering idiot ("Yes, you do! I know you too!" :P), but nonetheless made my night. Amazing how almost killing someone will leave an indelible impression on their brain, even 3+ years later. We got inside halfway through the opening act, who will have to remain nameless because she wasn't advertised anywhere in the club that we could see, and I forgot to ask her name before we left. All I know is that I thought she was really intriguing, and I'd like to hear her again if I ever get the chance. She was a diminutive young woman who played acoustic guitar and had a voice and vocal styling not unlike Tori (though without the range), and she was accompanied by a guitar player and a bassist who also played melodica on the last song. I only caught the last few songs of her set, but I really liked what I heard. After a relatively quick setup time, TN took the stage to a pretty good ovation. When the girls who had been sitting right in front of the stage stood up right in front of me, I was very gratified to note that for once they were all shorter than me. :) The Nields then launched into an hour-long set of old favorites and a lot of new material, all of which was tremendously fun. I don't think their next officially-released album is going to be their lyrical pinnacle, but it's going to be *great* in the car!!! By the end of the set the club was packed (and *very* hot - ugh), and the crowd was going nuts. As always, TN were having a wonderful time up there, and as always, I was having a wonderful time dancing like a fool. It shouldn't come as a surprise to me any more, but it still blows my mind just how much fun those guys are having, *every single night*. Yow. After a 45-minute break, during which many went downstairs to see Vance Gilbert (I refrained because I'll be seeing him open for Richard Shindell at The Bottom Line tomorrow night and I don't like him *that* much), we hung out resolutely ignoring the shifting of the crowd. And it really was a shift, too -- during TN's set I felt old, but by the time 10,000 Maniacs took the stage my equilibrium had been somewhat restored. :) I was surprised to note that I recognized very few faces in the crowd from TN's set. 10,000 Maniacs were LOUD. The last few times I've seen them I've almost had my eardrums blown clear out of my head, but I thought that was just Toad's Place, because they always turn it up to 11 there. I thought I was going to be safe this time because TN's levels had been quite reasonable, but it turns out 10KM must just like it that way. Their sound guy deserves to be shot for other reasons, too - the mix was horrid. The drums were way too high, the vocals way too low, and John Lombardo was completely inaudible. At one point woj and I actually looked to see if he was plugged in. Overall, I'd have to say that I'm probably not going to go out of my way to see 10KM play live again anytime soon. Those of you who have known me for a while will realize just how momentous, and a little sad this is. You see, before The Nields came along, 10,000 Maniacs were my very favorite band. I drove ridiculous distances to see them play even before I had a reliable means of transport (not to mention the money to actually afford the shows). All throughout my senior year of high school and first couple years of college, I listened to their music _all_ the time (well, when I wasn't listening to Kate, anyway :). Some of my most cherished college-age memories are directly tied to 10,000 Maniacs' music and live shows. When Natalie Merchant left the band I was determined to stick it out with them, because I loved both John and Mary albums, and I was ecstatic to hear that John Lombardo would be returning to the band and bringing Mary Ramsey with him. I saw them at Toad's Place during the early weeks of their "Unscathed" tour, and aside from the loudness of the show I was totally blown away - they were doing a *lot* of really old Maniacs material, stuff from _The Wishing Chair_ and earlier, which was amazing to me because that's where my favorite songs come from, and I'd always wanted to experience them live. I figured the marriage of John and Mary's music to the earlier 10KM aesthetic would be something out of heaven, and anxiously awaited their first album with the new lineup. Then _Love Among The Ruins_ came out, and as I'm sure you all know, "disappointed" doesn't even begin to cover my reaction to it. :P The creative spark that made the Maniacs so special had clearly departed with Ms. Merchant, and the remaining band members were clearly not in a hurry to find another. Yet I continued to go see them play whenever they came to town, Just Because. Last time I got rather bored toward the end, but I wrote it off to my mood that day. I was looking forward to their set last night, but I have to say I got bored by the second song. :( Two moments did make it all worthwhile, though: toward the end of the set a familiar bass riff started, and I didn't believe it until I actually heard the first lines: "Planned Obsolescence", from their very first EP called _Secrets of the I Ching_, later collected on _Hope Chest_. The only thing that wasn't good about it was the fact that John Lombardo sang it. Mary *really* needs to learn that song, and fast! I long ago decided that if one voice on the planet had to be silenced by decree of the Universe, I'd nominate John Lombardo even above Bob Dylan, Tom Waits and Leonard Cohen. He absolutely canNOT sing. The second moment came in the encore, when they dusted off "Can't Ignore The Train", which I think is my all-time favorite 10KM song. Mary did a really great job with it, too. I was really, really happy after that. :) But alas, the _Love Among The Ruins_ material hasn't gotten any better, and the new songs they played don't bode well for the next album, either. If I hear that they've decided just to include John and Mary and pre-1986 Maniacs material exclusively in their live shows I'll be lined up first at the door, but until then I think I'm done. woj commented afterwards, "The Maniacs should've opened for The Nields", and I wholeheartedly agree. Not only is The Nields' music fresher and more interesting, but they definitely got a better response from the (larger) crowd last night. +==========================================================================+ | Meredith Tarr meth@smoe.org | | New Haven, CT USA http://www.smoe.org/~meth | +==========================================================================+ | "things are more beautiful when they're obscure" -- veda hille | | *** TRAJECTORY: the Veda Hille mailing list *** | | *** http://www.smoe.org/meth/trajectory.html *** | +==========================================================================+ ------------------------------ End of ecto-digest V4 #170 **************************