From: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org (ecto-digest) To: ecto-digest@smoe.org Subject: ecto-digest V4 #54 Reply-To: ecto@smoe.org Sender: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Sunday, February 15 1998 Volume 04 : Number 054 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: First Records ["Larry G." ] Re: "newbie" (sort of) intro ["Larry G." ] Re: Katell Keineg [Richard ] Today's your birthday, friend... [Mike Matthews ] embarrasing, first, etc [Dan Stark ] Kenny Rogers and live music [kerrywhite@webtv.net (kerry white)] Canadian Radio Music Awards [Steve I ] Re: Canadian Radio Music Awards [roo@brown.edu (Kay Cleaves)] Re: embarrasing, first, etc [JavaHo@aol.com] first cds... [BF & VA Maier ] First purchases, embarrassments, etc. [Dave Williamson ] Re: embarrassing cd's [Michael Pearce ] Vonda Shepard CDs [Michael Pearce ] Re:embarrassing records [Michael Pearce ] Re: Vonda Shepard CDs [Chris Beckwith ] Re: ATT: Sarah McLachlan Fans [JavaHo@aol.com] Re: embarrassing cd's ["Larry G." ] Re: embarrassing cd's [Michael Pearce ] Re: embarrassing cd's ["Larry G." ] a KaTe Tale [woj ] dar williams in noho [meredith ] samplers and replies [meredith ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 14 Feb 1998 23:19:20 -0800 From: "Larry G." Subject: Re: First Records At 12:13 AM 2/14/98 -0600, Chad Lundgren wrote: >'Lo all, > > I'm a little beind in replying to the thread. I can't remember what >my first album was. I was a little young then. I bought albums with nifty >looking covers or from songs on the radio. I was heavily into Kiss. I know >Love Gun was propbably an early one. I owned Shaun Cassidy and Bay City >Rollers albums (does this crossover into the embarassing disc thread?) and >I had 45's by Wings (Silly Love Songs) and Fleetwood Mac (Rhianna). > > As for my first cassettes... I remember quite well as I received them >along with my first tape recorder for Christmas. The tapes are as >follows... > > Kiss- Gene Simmons Solo Album > Queen- The Game > Billy Joel- Glass Houses > Doobie Bros.- Best of the Doobies (back when I was young, didn't >like em, but I like them a lot > > > now. Same with >Jackson Browne) > >My first CD was Van Halen- Diver Down (in retrospect, their worst >album...go fig) > > Later >all, > > >Chad > > Lead singer of The Indispensible Hiptones (Milwaukee rhythm and blues >band) >Visit our website at http://www.arcfile.com/hiptones > >"We're on a mission from God." > > -Elwood Blues > Well, Ellwood and Bobby and Chad and Dave and Jeremy, I do remember that a mission from god was sorely needed at that time. I think it came. I dunno. I once was lost, but now I'm found. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Feb 1998 23:26:04 -0800 From: "Larry G." Subject: Re: "newbie" (sort of) intro OK, which screen name is Kenneth Starrr using.? Kenneth, we're discussing the HARMONICA, Not monica!!BILL TOLD US NOT TO USE THE WORD "jEW'S hARP" -- HE'S AFRAID OF A TITLE VII DISCRIMINATION ACTION. i TOLD HIM WE DON'T PLAY THE HARMONICA FOR MONICA AT HANNUKAH, BUT HE NEEDS TO KEEP ONE STEP AHEAD OF THE dRUDGE GUY. i SAY SNIFF AROUNG SOMEONE ELSE'S PAANTS, kENNY-- YOU'LL NEVER BE A sSSTARR SNIFFINGWHERE YOU ARE! At 11:11 PM 2/13/98 EST, you wrote: >Welcome to the list, Larry. Good to have you here...:) > >Java > Thanks! Where are you from? I'm in los angeles. Seeya! - -=-L-=- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Feb 1998 02:46:21 -0500 From: Richard Subject: Re: Katell Keineg Java said: > I love Jonatha's music. I think when I first heard her ("Plumb" by J.B. and > Story) my first thought was that she was a more melodic version of Suzanne > Vega. Her lyrics are wonderful ("No Better" and "Paris" from the > aforementioned CD come to mind). She's a good guitarist. Her songs have an > immediate hook without being too "pop". At least IMHO. I just got the new CD > ".10c Wings". It's a little quieter than "Plumb", but no less funky. I would > suggest listening to either of those CDs first, then check out Story (with > Jennifer Kimball). I think they had two releases; "Angel In The House", and > another whose title escapes me at present. _Grace In Gravity_, not nearly as good as _Angel_, tho the cover photography is superior..... Hiya Java!!! :) r ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Feb 1998 03:00:11 -0500 (EST) From: Mike Matthews Subject: Today's your birthday, friend... i*i*i*i*i*i i*i*i*i*i*i *************** *****HAPPY********* **************BIRTHDAY********* *************************************************** *************************************************************************** *********************** Doug Burks (dbx@netcom.com) *********************** *************************************************************************** -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Doug Burks Tue February 14 1956 Blank Jim Sturnfield Thu February 18 1954 Aquarius Juha Kannisto Wed February 18 1970 Aquarius Joel Siegfried February 19 Penguin Crossing Linda Saboe Tue February 20 1951 aimless Teresa Ross Wed February 23 1977 pisces Michael Curry Fri February 24 1967 Pisces Paula Shanks Mon February 25 1952 Pisces Brni Mojzes Fri February 26 1965 the vanishing boy Pamela Pociluk Fri February 28 1964 Pisces Tim Steele Fri March 08 1963 Pisces Matt Bittner Thu March 12 1964 Pisces kIrI Hargie Fri March 13 1970 Pisces Bob Dreano Thu March 13 1958 Pisces - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Feb 1998 03:37:16 -0500 From: Dan Stark Subject: embarrasing, first, etc Hi! Steve Ito demanded that I post on this thread, after we got talking about it the other night. I asked what I could possibly post as my most embarrassing album, because I'm sure I have them all! Bon Jovi? Samantha Fox? Boney M? How 'bout Rob Base and DJ EZ Rock? Oh yeah, digging in Dan's vinyl grooveyard is a lot of fun! I do have an excuse though - I used to DJ at clubs so those were necessary purchases I just never unloaded. Really! And I have pretty wide-ranging tastes that include styles far removed from ecto anyway, and I'm not embarrassed about that although I don't generally discuss them here. So I don't know how to pinpoint an embarrassment, although admitting on Ecto I liked the Silverchair CD when it was first released has got to be a strong contender. First album (well not counting Jungle Book and Puff The Magic Dragon): The first pop albums I can remember owning was a collection from one of my parents that included everything from Beatles to Gordon Lightfoot to Joan Baez. I didn't really consider them mine though. The first record I can remember buying was the The Joker single from Steve Miller, and the first album was Stand Back from Canadian 70s rockers April Wine. First concert: KISS - The Destroyer tour in Moncton, New Brunswick. Cheap Trick opened. I was 13. To this day it is still the loudest concert I have ever attended. Worst concert: Don't get me started! It's a tough call, although the Corey Hart concert I had to endure has to RANK right up there. (it was a date, what could I do?) Oh, and how about this experience, as I drift off on a tangent: A couple years ago I had tickets to a Tori Amos show in Toronto, and a friend recommended I invite a girl who he knew, suggesting she was a Tori fan. So I did, and she gladly accepted. So the day came, and as we made the hour-long drive from Niagara, naturally I started talking about Tori Amos. Suddenly she stopped me and said, "Tori AMOS? Who's that? I thought we were going to see Tori Spelling!" Ecto revelation: I had always liked female artists, but never really categorized them as a specific genre until just three years ago. Jewel was who really instigated a shift in my listening habits, after I saw her on her first residency tour at the beginning of 1995. After the show I did a web search (when I was still on the text-based Freenet at 2400 baud), which produced one match - a site run by Colin Stuckless with a link to Ecto, and I joined this list. I was already a fan of Tori and Kate and Sarah, but in the past three years this list has led me to discover Happy and a world of new artists I may have never heard otherwise. I have also met many new friends and traveled to new places for some memorable get-togethers as a result. Three cheers for Ecto! Best! Dan ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Feb 1998 02:36:46 -0600 From: kerrywhite@webtv.net (kerry white) Subject: Kenny Rogers and live music Hi, In 1969 I was wasting time and money as a freshman in college and went to the KR and the FE on campus. Others burned their draft cards. I had the band autograph mine. *Years* later, my mother said 'oh Kenny!' and I said , ' oh, here, I have his autograph. Still in the billfold. Let's see, I have ticket stubs for Jethro Tull, just after Aqualung, at $5. Led Zepplin, just before the 'runes' album, a shock to see Jimmy Page get out an acoustic. Moody Blues, just after Children's..., still good. Emerson Lake and Palmer, just after Tarkus, with Edgar Winter's White Trash. All 1969-1972, all less than $10. Last stub is for the Dead, 1992, $17. I sold all my early Gong and Aamon Duul and my other spacey albums, I wish I hadn't given up my Curved Air, just a poor cassette left now. I'm rambling, bye, KrW TV or not TV? That is the question. To suffer the lies of outrageous pitchmen, or to slit your throat with an electro-coated stainless steel blade? ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Feb 1998 04:16:51 -0500 From: Steve I Subject: Canadian Radio Music Awards I was checking out the Canadian Music Week website, and I found a page for the Canadian Radio Music Awards, which will be held on March 7 during Canadian Music Week. These awards, which will be hosted by Jann Arden, are new this year (apparently someone thought that there are never enough music industry award ceremonies) and are "designed to honour first-time top-charted artists in four different radio formats" (Rock, pop adult, country, and CHR, whatever that means). This means that established acts like Sarah McLachlan are out. This also means that artists with previous releases like Delerium and Sara Craig are still counted as "new" as long as 1997 was the first year they had top-whatever radio singles. Anyway, the solo artist nominee lists are dominated by women, including some ecto favourites: ROCK 1. BEST NEW SOLO ARTIST >> Holly McNarland- "Numb" >> Sara Craig - "Miss Rocket Tariq - "Chevrolet Way" 2. BEST NEW GROUP Big Wreck - "The Oaf" Widemouth Mason - "Midnight Rain" Zuckerbaby - "Andromeda" POP ADULT 3. BEST NEW SOLO ARTIST >> Dayna Manning -" Half The Man" >> Tara Maclean - "Evidence" Wendy Lands - "Angels and Ordinary Men" 4. BEST NEW GROUP Breits - "No Regrets" Driving Blind - "Fly" Soul Attorneys- "So They Say" COUNTRY 5.BEST NEW GROUP OR SOLO ARTIST Beverley Mahood - Girl Out Of The Ordinary" Julian Austin - "Little Ol' Kisses" Shirley Meyers -"Let It Rain" CHR 6. BEST NEW SOLO ARTIST >> Holly McNarland - "Numb" Ivan - "Open Your Eyes" Wendy Lands - "Angels and Ordinary Men" 7. BEST NEW GROUP Bran Van 3000 - "Drinking In LA" >> Delirium - "Euphoria (Firefly)" Soul Attorneys - "So They Say" 8. FACTOR "BREAKTHROUGH" AWARD (Most airplay for a New Artist) 9. SOCAN "CHART TOPPER" AWARD (Artist attaining the most airplay - Established or New) - ------------------------ Oh, and while I'm on the topic of awards, while perusing the Juno awards (Canada's equivelent to the grammies) website I noticed something interesting: Kurt Swinghammer is part of a team nominated for a Juno for album design (Kurt was the graphic artist). The interesting thing is he's best known not as a graphic artist, but as the tall, lanky guitarist for the Wild Strawberries. He also plays guitar for Mia Sheard, at least he did the last time I saw her. Of course, I could be wrong, it might be another Kurt Swinghammer. ;-) God knows how I noticed that in that huge listing of names, but anyways... Steve ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Steve I | Check out cool Toronto artists Sarah Slean & Emm Gryner Toronto, CAN | at NORTHERN SOUNDS: http://webhome.idirect.com/~nsounds/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Feb 1998 05:34:49 -0500 From: roo@brown.edu (Kay Cleaves) Subject: Re: Canadian Radio Music Awards >top-charted artists in four different radio formats" (Rock, pop adult, >country, and CHR, whatever that means). This means that established acts FYI, CHR is a techie radio term that refers to "Contemporary Hits Radio". It's a style of broadcasting in the vein of "Urban Contemporary," "Album-oriented Rock," and "Adult Contemporary," by which a radio station defines itself and can be classified. CHR kind of treads a middle ground--Urban tends towards Hiphop, rap, etc., Adult contemporary does softer stuff, and AOR was the type that started playing full sides of LP's in the seventies and has turned into your standard Modern Rock station. However, CHR is not quite top forty either, which is based more on record sales. Top 40 is much more commercial, where as CHR takes its inspiration from a wider variety of sources. Sorry, but I took a class in the history and development of the music industry last semester. Fun class, although I'm surprised I remember anything about it at 5:30 in the morning. Off to go talk to the Brown U. Trustees in two hours--they're deciding on next year's tuition and want to hear from some undergrads. Wish me luck! - --K - --------------------------------------------------- Kay S. Cleaves Brown University Stage Manager, Sweeney Todd 401-863-6650 Pager: 1-800-759-8888 x182-1000 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Feb 1998 08:39:29 EST From: JavaHo@aol.com Subject: Re: embarrasing, first, etc Dan confesses: << Suddenly she stopped me and said, "Tori AMOS? Who's that? I thought we were going to see Tori Spelling!" >> LOL!!!! I almost fell off my chair laughing at this story. Thanks for a great start to my day, Dan. Java (still giggling) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Feb 1998 01:33:23 +1100 From: BF & VA Maier Subject: first cds... hello all... well, my first musical acquisition wasn't on cd - it was the cassette single for kylie minogue's "i should be so lucky" and i was 7 years old, maybe 8. i'm not too embarrassed by it however, because i'm still a big kylie fan -- i've just watched her grow up and through, musically :) my very first cd was a rick astley number, his second release "hold me in your arms". i think i was about 10, that'd be about right as i was in 5th grade. amazingly, i'm not too embarrassed by that either, as i still think he had a reallly nice voice, and there's probably that part of me hoping he'll do something new one day! back to lurking! take care all... ~*~heidi~*~ - -- "I shall never get out of this! There are two of me now: This new absolutely white person and the old yellow one, And the white person is certainly the superior one. She doesn't need food, she is one of the real saints. At the beginning I hated her, she had no personality - She lay in bed with me like a dead body And I was scared because she was shaped just the way I was Only much whiter and unbreakable and with no complaints..." ~ Sylvia Plath [In Plaster]. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Feb 1998 15:12:09 -0800 From: Dave Williamson Subject: First purchases, embarrassments, etc. I can't recall my first purchase - was probably some K-Tel collection (those Canadians old enough will remember K-Tel). I think it was something like 22 Explosive Hits which had the Hollies "Long Cool Woman" and a 2 minute version of "Layla". Recall having some Partridge Family and Monkees stuff around age 10. I haven't tossed anything since I first started seriously buying music (one of those idiots with mega-pounds of vinyl still kicking around that I've cursed everytime I move, but still gets played alot - in fact I recently purchased a new turntable). Not embarrassed about any of it - all of it has its time and place in my life. Earliest stuff of influence was Chicago (CTA and Chicago II), Lighthouse (the double live album), Yes (Close to the Edge, The Yes Album), ELP (Tarkus, Brain Salad Surgery) and Genesis (Nursery Crime, Lamb Lies Down). First concert - Yes at Maple Leaf Gardens in Toronto on the Relayer tour (with Patrick Moraz). I was 13. Surprisingly I went straight from the progressive stuff into punk and new wave in the late 70s. My love for female artists started with Joni Mitchell, but solidified with Chrissie Hynde and the Pretenders. Cheers, Dave. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Feb 1998 13:16:30 -0800 From: Michael Pearce Subject: Re: embarrassing cd's Neal Copperman writes, > I think I can compete with that. The first album I bought was Captain & > Tenille's 2nd album. I can't remember what it was called now, and somehow > I managed to part with it many years ago. You must remember it though... > Muskrat Love, The Wedding Song. Ah the memories. On a sampler I submitted to the Ecto Taping Project was a song by Lani Hall, former lead singer for Brasil '66, called "Sun Down." It was the original version destroyed by Capt&T for "Muskroach Love." It is awful what can be done to a very pretty song. Unforgivable. mp ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Feb 1998 13:06:38 -0800 From: Michael Pearce Subject: Vonda Shepard CDs Thanks to Tower's searching abilities, I now have the third and most recent of her CDs. This one, "It's Good, Eve," sounds the most like she sings on Ally McBeal. I also like it a lot more than the other two. I am amazed that I could buy these now, with all the interest in her generated by the show, I would think that there would be no copies left anywhere. This VesperAlley Records must know something, since they are all 1996 reissues except for the last, which is original. The details: Vonda Shepard, self-titled Vesperalley Records, VRA 85004 (C) 1989 Reprise Records VesperAlley Logo (C)1996 Vesperalley Inc. Vonda Shepard, The Radical Light Vesperalley VRA 85005 (C)1992 Reprise Records (C) 1996 VesperAlley Inc. Vonda Shepard, It's Good, Eve VesperAlley Records, VRA 85003 (C) 1996 Maryland Venture All distributed by Navarre Happy shopping, Ectovians! ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Feb 1998 13:11:34 -0800 From: Michael Pearce Subject: Re:embarrassing records Okay, everyone, get into the wayback machine for these. Most embarrassing LPs (which I still have): The Things We Did Last Summer by Shelley Fabares, three by the Fleetwoods, Surf City by Jan & Dean (awful cover versions of I Left My Heart In San Francisco, Kansas City, Memphis, Tallahassee Lassie, Soul City and more), Ray Peterson (Corinna Corinna and others); Floyd Cramer (country-music pianist, no vocals). Mostly I bought singles back then, though. Accidently hip: Sandy Nelson: Drums Are My Beat; first two (1962) Dick Dale albums (his 1995 CD is first rate); Kingsmen (Louie Louie) soundtrack to How To Stuff A Wild Bikini; Brenda Lee's first(?) album "Emotions." No category but still play occasionally (like every decade): The Caravelles' You Don't Have To Be A Baby To Cry; The Paris Sisters and Priscilla Paris' solo, somewhat pathetic, cover of Billie Holliday songs. Moving into the Beatle era, I can't believe that I thought the Moody Blues were profound instead of pretentious (which Mike Pinder admitted they were in an '80s interview), and wanting to help Jefferson Starship (first album) steal that space ship and join the hippies among the stars. Now THAT's embarrassing. At least this is when I discovered Joni Mitchell, album 1, 2 & 3. Oh, and my extreme love of Marianne Faithfull's sweet, soft voice in "Loveinamist" and other early LPs. I agree, Donovan produced some of the most sickeningly sweet/stupid songs of the decade, but his evil (or good?) twin also wrote and recorded "Young Girl Blues," "Sand & Foam," "Guinevere," "Season of the Witch," "Legend of A Girl Child Linda," "Writer In The Sun" and others. I would rather not count the cilia lost to blasting the Doors as loud as my pathetic little sterea unit could blast. What, about 5 watts? Worshipped their every word. I could go on, but I have caused enough pain for one posting. Michael PS: My first CD? Enya's "Watermark." I had bought it on vinyl but was slightly warped and therefore unlistenable. A replacement copy was also pressed off center. I gave up and got the CD at a then-big $16 and went shopping the classifieds for a used CD player. Haven't bought much on vinyl since. |^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^Not subject to unwritten-law enforcement^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^| | "I am so tired of rearranging my | http://www.moonmac.com/ | | life around what the stupidest | mp@moonmac.com | | people MIGHT do." --Bill Maher | michael@pmug.org | | K E E P T H E | N T E R N E T F R E E | |____No Microsoft products were used in the production of this message____| ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Feb 1998 17:12:06 -0500 (EST) From: Chris Beckwith Subject: Re: Vonda Shepard CDs On Sat, 14 Feb 1998, Michael Pearce wrote: > I am amazed that I could buy these now, with all the interest in her > generated by the show, I would think that there would be no copies left > anywhere. I had no problem finding any of her albums in Borders, either, FWIW. Take care, Chris ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Feb 1998 17:05:55 EST From: JavaHo@aol.com Subject: Re: ATT: Sarah McLachlan Fans Jill mentions: << Sarah McLachlan, Dave Matthews, and Joan Osborne will turn up next month on a syndicated radio special devoted to goth-author Anne Rice and her latest work, "Violin: A Ghost Story." >> Speaking of Anne Rice and such...I've always thought that Happy wrote the difinitive vampire song in "The Flight" from Equipoise. My favourite line is "His heart beats requiem, pounding the rhythm of intent..." Just a passing thought. Sleep light...Java ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Feb 1998 16:09:04 -0800 From: "Larry G." Subject: Re: embarrassing cd's At 01:16 PM 2/14/98 -0800, you wrote: Talk about memories. And small worlds. Lani is the one with all the whipped cream on her on the cover of Herb Alpert's "Whipped Cream and other Delights." She's also Herb's wife. In 1981, she was a witness for me in a copyright case I was handling -- a long story which I will not tell unless plied with alcohol -- and must report that she is (or at least was) a real "delight." Seeya! - -=-Larry-=- > >On a sampler I submitted to the Ecto Taping Project was a song by Lani >Hall, former lead singer for Brasil '66, called "Sun Down." It was the >original version destroyed by Capt&T for "Muskroach Love." It is awful what >can be done to a very pretty song. Unforgivable. > >mp > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Feb 1998 18:56:22 -0800 From: Michael Pearce Subject: Re: embarrassing cd's Larry G. writes, > At 01:16 PM 2/14/98 -0800, you wrote: > > Talk about memories. And small worlds. > > Lani is the one with all the whipped cream on her on the cover of Herb > Alpert's "Whipped Cream and other Delights." She's also Herb's wife. In > 1981, she was a witness for me in a copyright case I was handling -- a long > story which I will not tell unless plied with alcohol -- and must report > that she is (or at least was) a real "delight." > > Seeya! > -=-Larry-=- > > > >On a sampler I submitted to the Ecto Taping Project was a song by Lani > >Hall, former lead singer for Brasil '66, called "Sun Down." It was the > >original version destroyed by Capt&T for "Muskroach Love." It is awful what > >can be done to a very pretty song. Unforgivable. Sounds like you were pretty much in the middle of things back then. Remember Blue Thumb Records and a newsletter called "Thumb In It"? Or the LA Free Press? Them's waz da dayz... mp ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Feb 1998 19:35:13 -0800 From: "Larry G." Subject: Re: embarrassing cd's At 06:56 PM 2/14/98 -0800, Michael wrote: >Sounds like you were pretty much in the middle of things back then. >Remember Blue Thumb Records and a newsletter called "Thumb In It"? Or the >LA Free Press? Them's waz da dayz... > >mp > Well, I remember the free Press, but back then, I didn't get out much. Now, I do! ;-) - -=-L-=- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Feb 1998 21:48:00 -0500 From: woj Subject: a KaTe Tale a friend of mine wrote this after getting a copy of the "rocketman" single and gave permission to share with y'all. just goes to prove: she really is! >Earlier today I watched a bit of television (OK, I confess - it was Oprah >Winfrey) and the guest was country singer Garth Brooks. I sat there >watching these women cry and faint as they saw him and I was thinking, >"Look at these ninnies. He's just a man in a cowboy hat. What's the big >deal? Why do these women make such a fuss over a mere mortal?" > >Well, then my copy of Kate arrived. I put the CD in, hit the start button >and went to wash the dishes. Kate's voice and Uillean Pipes filled the >room. I was careful not to splash the dishwater for fear of interfering >with the sound. Then the rhythem changed to almost a reggae style with >Kate's voice alternating with what I suppose was the Concertina. Steven and >Ry came down. Steven picked her up started dancing around the kitchen. She >was laughing as he bopped to the beat. And suddenly those Garth fans didn't >seem so silly anymore. I mean, if Kate had walked into the house at that >moment I probably would've kissed her. It was beautiful. - -- _O_ woj@remus.rutgers.edu friends don't let friends |< http://remus.rutgers.edu/~woj/ drive sport utility vehicles ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Feb 1998 00:41:11 -0500 From: meredith Subject: dar williams in noho Hi! Well, last night while woj and Mike Curry were seeing Altan at the Iron Horse, I was down the street at the Dar Williams show at the Academy of Music. I got there late (never in my life have I heard of a traffic jam in Springfield, MA but there I was stuck in one :P), but not too late, thankfully, and I was surprised to note that the setup on stage indicated she was going to be with the band. For some reason I thought she was just going to have Stephanie Winters with her, which would have been cool, but I was really really happy to see the band. The opener was Todd Thibaud, a totally boring guy-with-acoustic-guitar-and-harmonica who had a nice voice and was pretty good with the guitar, but his songwriting left much to be desired. I basically snoozed through his set. Then after a short break it was showtime. None other than Johnny Memphis introduced Dar -- yes, he really does exist! :) When I saw Dar with her band (which at the time included Richard Shindell) at the Iron Horse last fall it was an amazing experience, but I think last night even surpassed that. It was the best Dar show I've seen. As much as I love her singing and her songwriting, I've always considered her guitar playing to have much room for improvement, so when she's with the band the music finally catches up to the rest of the package. She was obviously loving performing in front of her hometown crowd too, which was fun. Let's see if I can remember the set list (some of this might be out of order): What Do You hear In These Sounds If I Wrote You Road Buddy What Do You Love More Than Love (cool new song! :) Party Generation End of the Summer As Cool As I Am Mortal City February The Christians and the Pagans (encore #1) You're Aging Well Iowa (encore #2) The Babysitter's Here I thought I'd get out of a show without hearing "The Babysitter's Here" -- in fact, when she came out for the second encore, which was quite unplanned she asked for requests, and a bunch of people (including me) were shouting out for "The Ocean", but she said "Oh no, that's such a *nasty* song" (whatever the hell THAT means) and that was that. Oh well. At least I restrained myself from running out of the theater screaming. I would've had to climb over 5 people to get out of my seat, so that would have been rather inconvenient. ;) The Nields at the Iron Horse tomorrow night -- whoo-hoo! +==========================================================================+ | Meredith Tarr meth@smoe.org | | New Haven, CT USA http://www.smoe.org/~meth | +==========================================================================+ | "things are more beautiful when they're obscure" -- veda hille | | *** TRAJECTORY: the Veda Hille mailing list *** | | *** http://www.smoe.org/meth/trajectory.html *** | +==========================================================================+ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Feb 1998 00:41:19 -0500 From: meredith Subject: samplers and replies Hi! Today I did something I haven't done in a *long* time, which was make a sampler mix tape for someone to attempt conversion. This one's for a net.friend who is into a lot of other ecto-type music (Ani, Veda, Dar etc.), but has never heard either Happy nor Susan McKeown, so she asked for a tape. I made one tape, with Susan on one side and Happy on the other. In case anyone cares, here's what I put together: Happy side: Temporary and Eternal (_The Keep_ version) Collective Heart Oh The Drears Possessd Given In (_Rhodesongs_ version) Poetic Justice Summer When The Rain Came Down Under and Over The Brink Words Weren't Made for Cowards Warpaint Susan side: Ce Leis e? Westron Wynde/Westlin Winds Snakes/Mna na hEireann Bushes & Briars In London So Fair Craigie Hill A Mhaire Bhruinneall Through The Bitter Frost And Snow The Winter King Auld Lang Syne (On this side, the song titles you don't recognize are from _Bushes & Briars_, which I'm sort of obsessing over this week, even with all the other new stuff I've acquired over the past few days.) A long time ago in a galaxy far far away, I had a set 100-minute Happy sampler that I used to send out with some regularity, but I lost the track listing and anyway I only had 45 minutes of tape to work with this time, besides which Happy's put out a few things since I was in college. :) Though if anyone out there has one of the samplers I did (it was part of the late, lamented Tape Dubbing Project) and wouldn't mind sending me the track listing for future reference, I'd appreciate it! Last night as I was driving to and from Northampton I finally had a chance to spend some quality time with some of the new things I've picked up this week, namely Ani DiFranco's _Little Plastic Castle_ and Kristin Hersh's _Strange Angels_, and of course Susan's _Bushes & Briars_, because I can't go an entire day without listening to that. :) _Little Plastic Castle_ isn't reaching out and grabbing me yet, but sometimes these things take time. The title track, which opens the album starts off fine, but then these completely irrelevant horns come in (Tamar summed it up when she asked me, "Hey, where'd she pick up the mariachi band?") and ruin the entire thing. The other songs I was already intimately familiar with from live performance, "As Is" and "Gravel" fall flat in the studio (at least I've got some great live tapes for the former and _Living In Clip_ for a kickass version of the latter), proving once again that Ani's best experienced on stage (Chad, you're definitely in for a treat!). But in two notable instances Ani uses the studio to its full benefit: "Deep Dish", a groovy urban slice of life that for some reason puts images into my head of a back alley behind a 70's disco in Chicago (I have NO CLUE why, but it does), and the album's epic closer, the 14-minute "Pulse", which actually feels more like 4 minutes, and surprises me when it's over. Her voice could've used a couple extra weeks of rest before recording too, which is distracting at times. Overall the production is vastly superior to _Dilate_, though I much prefer the songwriting on _Dilate_ in terms of emotional intensity. And _Not A Pretty Girl_ continues to reign as the best Ani album, at least in my mind (closely followed by _Living in Clip_). I'm afraid people who aren't all that familiar with Ani's music, who come to _LPC_ thanks to all the media hype which is surrounding its release are going to be wondering what all the fuss is about, but hopefully they'll find the rest of her catalog on the shelves and still be motivated to buy a ticket to her next show and finally figure it out. Talk about advance hype: I was in the record store the other day (Cutler's, in New Haven) and the front window display was plastered with _LPC_ posters, and they even had a space set up for it on the listening rack and on the SALE shelves, with big signs everywhere saying "COMING FEBRUARY 17th". Yeesh. I've never seen anything like it. Anyway. I also gave _Strange Angels_ a good listen, and I'm not sure if it's better than _Hips and Makers_, but it's certainly not any less mind-boggling than its predecessor. I haven't thought of anything particularly intelligent to say about it yet, save that if you liked _Hips and Makers_ you're definitely going to like this one, and Kristin Hersh is just seriously, seriously cool. :) And while I'm here, a couple additional words about _Bushes & Briars_: I'm not surprised that Mike Curry wasn't all that enthused by it at first (has that opinion changed, Mike?). When I first listened, on the way home from the show last weekend I wasn't too excited about it either. After the stunning live performances of the songs I'd heard, the fleshed-out arrangements (especially on the title song) were rather jarring. However, when I had a chance to listen again and treat the songs on their own, apart from the live versions I had to slap myself and wonder what the hell I'd been thinking. :) It's not going to please the trad purists, sure, but that's fine with me. There are many truly wonderful moments on this album, and I highly recommend it to all. D^2 announced: >Well, my entry won. :) No way!!! I've already had 3 people forward me the entries from that competition, and I confess to forwarding them a few places myself. :) I had no idea the winner was yours -- congrats! That's so cool. Not to mention hilarious. :) Valerie clarified re Lisa Cerbone: >I met her last night, and I wouldn't call her accent anything. However, I can >settle one thing. She's definitely from New Jersey. She's from Morris County, >from a town right next to Florham Park. You're kidding. Which town?! Parsippany? Can't be Boonton, though if it is I'm going to laugh *really* hard... Richard opined: >_Grace In Gravity_, not nearly as good as _Angel_, tho the cover >photography is superior..... Oh, but I beg to differ. IMHO _Grace In Gravity_ is *much* better than _Angel In The House_. The title song still destroys me every time I hear it, even after all these years. I was never able to listen to _Plumb_ all the way through, and I haven't been motivated to pick up _10 Cent Wings_ yet -- maybe I'll find a cheap copy somewhere and check it out. Dave Williamson commented: >I can't recall my first purchase - was probably some K-Tel collection >(those Canadians old enough will remember K-Tel). This Yank remembers K-Tel -- in fact, I just had a flashback to my parents giving me one of their disco compilations for Christmas when I was, like, 7. I think it was called "Hot Nights, City Lights" or something like that. It had Gloria Gaynor's "I Will Survive" and that "I love the nightlife" song from, um, that stupid campy vampire movie starring Arte Johnson, what was it, oh! _Love At First Bite_ (which I remember seeing in a drive-in, of all places). Yow. Some memories are best left undredged. :} Michael Pearce confessed: >I would rather not count the cilia lost to blasting the Doors as loud as my >pathetic little sterea unit could blast. What, about 5 watts? Worshipped >their every word. I went through a Doors phase in 9th grade that lasted about 3 months. At the time I was friends with someone who positively worshipped Jim Morrison (even to the extent of refusing to believe he was really dead, and rather violently ending a lifelong friendship with someone who defaced her life-sized poster of him in a fit of adolescent pique), and she loaned me her copy of _Weird Scenes Inside The Gold Mine_ and I proceeded to drive my parents loopy for the next 4 weeks listening to "Break on Through" at top volume over and over and over. :) I'll still stop and listen if I come across a Doors song while station surfing on the radio late at night. Dunno why, but I just liked their stuff a lot. Ah well, I still have a pile of stuff in my mailbox, but this is more than enough for now... :) +==========================================================================+ | Meredith Tarr meth@smoe.org | | New Haven, CT USA http://www.smoe.org/~meth | +==========================================================================+ | "things are more beautiful when they're obscure" -- veda hille | | *** TRAJECTORY: the Veda Hille mailing list *** | | *** http://www.smoe.org/meth/trajectory.html *** | +==========================================================================+ ------------------------------ End of ecto-digest V4 #54 *************************