From: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org (ecto-digest) To: ecto-digest@smoe.org Subject: ecto-digest V4 #50 Reply-To: ecto@smoe.org Sender: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Thursday, February 12 1998 Volume 04 : Number 050 Today's Subjects: ----------------- How to Have a Number One Hit [David Dixon ] Re: Jane and the Academy Awards (& movies) [Riphug@aol.com] anyone for Lin Elder? [Riphug@aol.com] Re: Emm Gryner/Canadian songstresses [Riphug@aol.com] Mae Moore news [00jnweiser@bsuvc.bsu.edu] Re: Embarrassing CD [Riphug@aol.com] So long ago!!! [Patrick Varker ] Re: cds/response ["Neil K. Guy" ] Re: top ten movies of 1997 ["Joseph S. Zitt" ] Re: embarrassment...question [cspacerage ] Re: cds/response [Michael Colford ] Kate's unforgettable!!! [Patrick Varker ] Re: Movies off topic? [kerrywhite@webtv.net (kerry white)] odd Neilds sighting [Neal Copperman ] Re: Lisa Cerbone [Neal Copperman ] Re: throat singers [Neal Copperman ] Re: cds/response [Neal Copperman ] Re: childhood music awareness ["Joseph S. Zitt" ] Re: stuff..cd's concerts etc. [Neal Copperman ] more embarassments... [Renee Canada ] Re: Bad superheroes, Missing Persons, and sundry ["Joseph S. Zitt" ] Re: throat singers [Neal Copperman ] Rekindled love for Ani w/ Plastic Castle release :) [00jnweiser@bsuvc.bsu] Re: childhood music awareness ["Chris Beckwith" ] Films ["Mitchell A. Pravatiner" ] Re: Emma Townshend (was: So long ago!!!) [Paul Blair ] Holly Cole [rjk1@cs.wustl.edu (Bob Kollmeyer)] ani difranco and movies and more [meredith ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 18:45:06 +0100 From: David Dixon Subject: How to Have a Number One Hit Getting back to music... For those of you who also rue the Grammies: Recently came across this marvelous (and long) book by the members of The KLF, a frankly indescribable British electronic dance band, describing how they got to the top of the charts, and how you can too. It's at: http://quality.gconnect.com/cgi-bin/nicetxt?site=MANCENTRAL*KLF&title=The+Ma nual+(The+Timelords)&file=KLF/Misc/the-manual.txt D^2 ====================================================================== David Dixon (D^2) dixon@qt.tn.tudelft.nl Department of Applied Physics, Delft University of Technology This week's bon mot: "Was Karl Marx buried in a communist plot?" ====================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 12:42:26 EST From: Riphug@aol.com Subject: Re: Jane and the Academy Awards (& movies) In a message dated 2/12/98 12:19:58 PM Eastern Standard Time, 4dm@qlink.queensu.ca writes: << Now for an Ecto question...does anybody (maybe from Northern Europe?) have information on the Swedish band Pineforest Crunch? Kind of like Bettie Serveert with a Tori Amos-like vocalist in Asa (though Asa's voice is smaller and sweeter -- maybe weaker -- than Tori's). And the band uses FLUTES! I'm very much interested in a bio if there is one. >> I found a website for Pineforest Crunch at: http://www.arosnet.se/users/jonas.s/pfc/ but most of it seems to be in Swedish.....and when I tried to access the Bio page, i got an Error message. However, I found a brief review of one of their CD's: <> And in another site they were compared to the Cardigans..... Jill :D ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 13:11:30 EST From: Riphug@aol.com Subject: anyone for Lin Elder? I have her CD on order and am very anxious to hear her after reading this in Jam: <> Lovin' all of this research today..... Jill :D     ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 13:02:49 EST From: Riphug@aol.com Subject: Re: Emm Gryner/Canadian songstresses In a message dated 2/12/98 11:22:45 AM Eastern Standard Time, colford@noblenet.org writes: << Forgot to mention Mae Moore. Another ectoish Canadian artist. Her last album, Dragonfly was 1996, I believe? Certainly she's due for another. Any news? >> Oh, yes! I like Mae Moore a lot, too.....and finally purchased the first of her three CD's, "Oceanview Motel" to go along with "Dragonfly" and "Bohemia." According to the Jam Music website: << This singer/songwriter from Brandon, Manitoba relocated to Vancouver to work the coffeehouse circuit with a trio. She played acoustic guitar and dulcimer while her two bandmates played cello and electric guitar. Mae later joined Foreign Legion, a rock band, as an electric guitarist. While working at the Railway Club in Vancouver, she met songwriter John Dexter. Together they wrote a number of songs, including Heaven In Your Eyes, which was recorded by Loverboy for the Paramount film Top Gun (1986). Her friendship with Barney Bentall and his lead guitarist Colin Nairn resulted in a contract with CBS Records (now Sony Music). She began making demos with Bentall, Nairn, and Geoff Kelly of Spirit Of The West. Her debut album, Oceanview Motel, was released in 1990. Her second album, Bohemia, was released in the fall of 1992. Moore left Sony after the release of her third album, Dragonfly, and relocated to Prince Edward Island. By 1997, she was working on her fourth album after having signed to the Big Hip label. >> And this from Jam, too: <> Ah, yes......"Happy?" So, it looks like we should be hearing from Mae Moore very soon! *hugs and kisses* Jill :D     ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 13:47:32 -0500 (EST) From: 00jnweiser@bsuvc.bsu.edu Subject: Mae Moore news Someone asked about Mae Moore: I don't know how it came up, but back in August when I was chatting w/ Bill Bell, Tara MacLean's *fiancee* (yay! :), I mentioned Mae Moore, and she now owns a bed and breakfast in Eastern Canada (I can't remember if it's Toronto, PEI or what), so, there ya go. I have no idea, musically, what she's up to, if anything. :) HTH, Jessica, posting more to Ecto this week than the year she's been on! :) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 13:34:31 EST From: Riphug@aol.com Subject: Re: Embarrassing CD In a message dated 2/11/98 9:39:19 PM Eastern Standard Time, terra@ulster.net writes: << The most embarrassing CD that I am oh-so-proud to own would have to be, hands down, Fabio "After Dark." Worse piece of shit in the universe. That's why it's so funny, and that's why I will never part with it. >> Sharon.....if you want to see more of Fabio and have him actually say something to you, check this website: http://redwood.northcoast.com/%7Eshojo/Fabio/fabio.html Jill :D ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 12:34:18 -0500 (EST) From: Patrick Varker Subject: So long ago!!! The first LP I ever purchased was Meet The Beatles, I think I paid all of $3.00 for it at the 5 & 10. I didn't have the money for a Beatles wig at the time but bought one later. The first "rock" concert I ever attended was The Monkees when they played our state fair. Shortly after though I saw Led Zeppelin when they toured the USA on their(I believe) first tour. This had to have been around 1969, I still have my ticket stub somewhere. I think the ticket was 6 or 7 bucks. Much of the music I've bought over the years would be not be ectos cup of tea but what can I say I listen to all kinds of music pretty much depending on what kind of mood I'm in at the moment. Music is MY LIFE!!! I never thought I'd see Claudine Longet's name mentioned here. I have every LP she ever released except The Look Of Love which I have on tape. I loved her and hope that someday her stuff will be re-released on cd, but I'm not holding my breath. Has anyone got any info on Emma Townshend whom I believe is Pete's daughter. I have an advance copy of her disc but have only skimmed through it. What I've heard sounds pretty good. At times there's even Tori reminders to it. She also is being handled by EW. Patrick ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 10:36:38 -0800 From: "Neil K. Guy" Subject: Re: cds/response At 8:36 AM -0500 2/12/98, 00jnweiser@bsuvc.bsu.edu wrote: >Emm Gryner, yay! And... that office wouldn't be the one you all lovingly >refer to as the 'skat pad' (sp?), is it? I know it well... :) Erm, well, it's called a number of things, yeah... :) >Re: Tara in Toronto > >>although she's moving back to Vancouver > >She's already there, actually. Yay! :) Vancouver rocks. Yup. She showed up at the office yesterday with Bill to say hello to everyone. Hm. (suspiciously) How do you know all this? You must have spies! (talks to Adam, on a hunch) Ahh.... :) At 8:40 AM -0500 2/12/98, Michael Colford wrote: >Having only seen The Sweet Hereafter recently, I have to >say I thought Sarah Polley did an interesting and enjoyable >job on "One More Colour." I loved the fact that Anne Bourne >was the cellist in Sarah's band! Anne Bourne also played keyboards for Jane - an even closer connection. I remember her on the Speckless Sky tour. - Neil K. - -- 49N 16' 123W 7' + nkg@nettwerk.com + (604) 654-2929 Technical Services Manager, Nettwerk Productions 1250 West 6th Ave. Vancouver, BC, Canada V6H 1A5 in the heart of Canada's Pacific Southwest ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 13:10:58 -0600 (CST) From: "Joseph S. Zitt" Subject: Re: top ten movies of 1997 I don't think I saw 10 movies in 1997... gotta get a life. From what I can remember: LOVED: Contact Crash LIKED: The Fifth Element Lost Highway HATED: In and Out - - ---------1---------1---------1---------1---------1---------1---------- |||/ Joseph Zitt ===== jzitt@humansystems.com ===== Human Systems \||| ||/ Maryland? = <*> SILENCE: The John Cage Mailing List <*> = ecto \|| |/ http://www.realtime.net/~jzitt ====== Comma: Voices of New Music \| ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 14:09:55 -0500 From: cspacerage Subject: Re: embarrassment...question I'm with Vickie on this one. ;) I've got extremely eclectic taste...and I often make the mistake of expecting those around me to appreciate the same things...people leave the house for 2 hours when I play Jesus Christ Superstar and turn their nose up at lentil soup with vinegar or roll their eyes at the laundromat when I've got 6 braids in my hair. Sometimes it's really frustrating...in a definate "GET OVER YOURSELF" kind of way. I _loved_ The Monkees when I was in first grade. I still do. I also loved Barry Manilow. I turn the dial now, but who knows, in 5 years I might find myself singing, "Oh, Mandy~ ..." while stuck in traffic. IMHO...Taste is a matter of timing and situation and personal growth and expression and connection. My hard-core scene friends who bring their own fake blood to a Gwar show give me no end of ribbing when i stop my frenetic remote channel-surf to watch John Tesh smiling at his piano keys. On the other hand, I brought a Stevie Nicks loving 70's guitar rock/pop afficcionado (which i also groove on) to a local grunge night and she summed it up with what has now become my favorite out-of-place expression... "I felt like Opus." Here's a silly question for the thread... _Why_ do the particular selections/artists you've listed embarrass you? ~!@L. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 14:19:33 -0500 (EST) From: Michael Colford Subject: Re: cds/response On Thu, 12 Feb 1998, Neil K. Guy wrote: > Anne Bourne also played keyboards for Jane - an even closer connection. I > remember her on the Speckless Sky tour. Me too, she was awesome. That entire tour just blew me away. I don't think anything will top that show. Michael - -------------------------------------------------------------------- Michael Colford | Reading Public Library Head of Technical Services | Reading, Massachusetts colford@noblenet.org | *North of Boston Library Exchange* - -------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 14:33:55 -0500 (EST) From: Patrick Varker Subject: Kate's unforgettable!!! The Kate song is definitely not forgettable, I'm sure I've never heard it before. I do have the Common Ground cd but obviously I've never listened to it. It's not unusual for me to have discs lie around for ages before I get around to it. I'm sure there are at least 100 or more that I haven't even cracked the wrap on. Pretty crazy huh? I buy a lot of discs that I know I'm gonna like simply because of a certain artist but then never seem to have the time to listen. I also receive quite a few promo discs so they tend to build up quickly. It's like one of these days.......... Patrick (who thinks today's 4-5 posts has to be a record for me!) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 13:49:16 -0600 From: kerrywhite@webtv.net (kerry white) Subject: Re: Movies off topic? Hi, Nothing (in the world of entertainment) is really off topic in Ecto as long as it is presented in the spirit of community. At least, that is the feeling I've always had about this [place]. This is Oscar's time of the year and it'll pass soon. KrW TV or not TV? That is the question. To suffer the lies of outrageous pitchmen, or to slit your throat with an electro-coated stainless steel blade? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 14:48:38 -0500 (EST) From: Neal Copperman Subject: odd Neilds sighting On a continued literary vein... The other night I was finishing of Rafael Alavarez' book of short stories, The FOuntain of Highlandtown, all set in Baltimore. The final story, "The Flap Doodle", focuses a lot on the whirligig outside the Visionary Art Museum. While the two main characters are looking at it, they are talking about what to do that evening. I was quite surprised as I read this paragraph: "The Neilds are playing on Cross Street," I said. (The sisters Neild were our new favorites and their black dress dramas - grade school love, older men with younger women, and adolescents riding bicycles into the summer night - were especially suited to our black box theater.) Meredith or anyone else on the Neilds' Nook - know if this has come to light there? The Neilds will be in town in a week or so, and if they don't already know of this, I'll make a point of giving them a copy. For that matter, I recently discovered the side of a building in Baltimore decoreated with a pretty old painted sign tauting the quality of the Neild Dry Cleaners. Neal np: Lisa Cerbone - Mercy ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 14:41:10 -0500 (EST) From: Neal Copperman Subject: Re: Lisa Cerbone On Tue, 10 Feb 1998, Paul Blair wrote: > When Lisa talks, she has this Midwestern > accent that reminded me that yes, we Midwesterners do indeed have accents. > :-) That's funny, since, to the best of my knowledge, Lisa hails from New Jersey. I know the definition of midwest can sometimes be a bit nebulous, but I think that would be stretching it a bit :) > I was too busy catching on to the general feel > of the music to be able to pick up much from the lyrics, and I'm beginning > to find that the imagery in lyrics is pretty important to me after all. I > really would like a chance to hear her again, preferably with the band. I think Lisa's set is typically stronger with a band, though I really love a capella version of Everything He Loved that she introduced last month. If you are a lyrics person, I think further exploration of her music would be very well reworded indeed. Most of her songs read like well-crafted short stories, and I think the lyrics are what really elevates her music to a higher level. She writes short stories too, so maybe one day some of thsoe will see the light of day. The lyrics from both her albums are available at http://www.hidwater.com/cerbone/ On both the web site and in the album, her lyrics aren't printed in a song structure, but more like stories. Here's a sample, a song that she wrote about her dad. A white van you take to work. A brown door on the driver's side - it's bent. The van makes all kind of noise and stalls when it's not warm. As you try to turn the corner get on your way, the guy behind you leans on his horn and that's the way you start and end your day. Long ago, you would have gotten caught up in who was right and who was wrong, but right now you just can't wait to get home so you can be with your dog. She's nothing like the woman of your dreams. She's set in her ways and she talks too much. Sometimes she screams in her sleep. But more than once, her smile in the moonlight caught you by surprise. You saw someone, something in her eyes. Long ago, you would have gotten caught up in who was right and who was wrong but right now, you can't help but wish for someone who could break your heart. Numbered nights. Numbered days. You sit on the back porch and watch them fade. A white van you take to work. A brown door on the driver's side - it's bent. The van makes all kinds of noise and stalls when it's not warm. It stalls when it's not warm. Neal np: Lisa Cerbone - Mercy "her climbing words like sundrops entered your soul" - Lisa Cerbone, calm as houses ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 15:28:38 -0500 (EST) From: Neal Copperman Subject: Re: throat singers On Thu, 12 Feb 1998, BarBearUh wrote: > in a recent concert, ani difranco talked about tuvan throat singers. > she met up with some at a folk festival and was rather dazzled by them. > they can sing two notes at the same time apparently. she took a lesson, > but didn't demonstrate. Actually, they can even sing 3 notes simultaneously. Pretty amazing, and very odd. neal np: Come Dancing With The Kings - The Best of The Kings 1977-1986 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 15:22:04 -0500 (EST) From: Neal Copperman Subject: Re: cds/response On Thu, 12 Feb 1998, Michael Colford wrote: > On Thu, 12 Feb 1998, Neil K. Guy wrote: > > > Anne Bourne also played keyboards for Jane - an even closer connection. I > > remember her on the Speckless Sky tour. > > Me too, she was awesome. That entire tour just blew me away. > I don't think anything will top that show. That was my first Jane show, from the back of the auditorium at Goucher COllege in Baltimore, where it appeared to me there were 3 Jane's on stage. And I finally got a copy of Speckless Sky on CD just last week. Neal np: Lisa Cerbone - MErcy ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 14:12:14 -0600 (CST) From: "Joseph S. Zitt" Subject: Re: childhood music awareness On Wed, 11 Feb 1998, BarBearUh wrote: > 7 years old. i really liked claudine longet, simon & garfunkel and the mamas > and papas (the latter two being the only hip music my parents owned). i also That flashes me back to one year when I was a kid, I went to a sort of get-the-kids-outa-the-damn-house program where they played the Beatles' "Yesterday and Today" and the Mama's and the Papa's "If you can believe Your Eyes and Ears" continually. > remember the 5th dimension's "up, up and away" pretty vividly, and the > broadway LP of "hair". i of course had to have my manditory partridge I actually have, at this point, the Hair broadway, off-broadway, Israeli, soundtrack, and out-takes ("DisinHAIRited") albums. I've had the setting of "What a Piece of Work is Man" looping in my head since the Hamlet text was quoted on Babylon 5 last week... > currently at work: lots of instrumental/soundtracky stuff. kate bush, jane I just had a low-impact EWS attack. At a pawn shop during lunch, I picked up: Grateful Dead: Live Dead BT: Blue Skies (w/ Tori) cd EP Booth and the Bad Angel Layne Redmond and the Mob of Angels: Since the Beginning (ritual drumming) Prince: Batman Mr Bungle: Mr Bungle and the CD-ROM of "ScruTiny in the Great Round" all for $19. I'm pleased :-) - - ---------1---------1---------1---------1---------1---------1---------- |||/ Joseph Zitt ===== jzitt@humansystems.com ===== Human Systems \||| ||/ Maryland? = <*> SILENCE: The John Cage Mailing List <*> = ecto \|| |/ http://www.realtime.net/~jzitt ====== Comma: Voices of New Music \| ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 15:20:30 -0500 (EST) From: Neal Copperman Subject: Re: stuff..cd's concerts etc. On Wed, 11 Feb 1998, Jet Girl wrote: > Anyone going to see Lisa on Thursday at Phantasmagoria? Doug and I will be at The Metro Cafe seeing Patty Griffin instead. Too many good opportunities tonight. I think you'll see Valerie there though. > Jon and I went to see Lisa at Iota a week or so back, she keeps > getting better and better. She also has a new bassist, plays a five-string > fretless, really nice addition to the band. He's a recent addition, formerly of disappear fear, which I guess is no more now that Sonia is doing the solo thing. I did manage to catch her record release show at 8 X 10 (which I forgot to mention was the Cross Street reference in the Neilds post - and I was at that show too!). Sonia's show was good, though I caught only the last hour and a half of it. (IF starting times are to believed, that was about half the show.) I found it a little sad that the 8 X 10 was pretty empty, when it used to be packed for df cd release parties. And while Soniia was still a dramatic presence, I found myself really missing the band. I never got over Cindy's departure, but the band she eventually put together kept getting better and better, so I could almost forget her harmonies. Solo, I found that I had returned to running Cindy's parts through my head to flesh out the music. The appearance of Howard on guitar, who was briefly in the final incarnation of the band and, before that, brilliantly added what I never knew was missing from the duo, was a nice surprise, and lifted the energry of the show to another level. For the time I was there, I only heard 2 new songs, both of which seemed solidly in the disappear fear mold. > We're also hitting Paula Cole this weekend, Oh, Paula Cole is also playing tonight in Baltimore. (10 minutes from home and I'm going to drive the hour to DC - sigh.) > and I'm reluctantly going > to see Michelle Shocked on the 1st of March, is she good in concert? Michelle Shocked is awesome in concert! I've seen her at least a half dozen times, and every time I've had a blast. These shows are billed as an Intimate Dance Party, and you probably should be prepared to dance. Last time she came through town, the entire floor of the 9:30 Club was dancing like mad. I found myself in a strange, Michelle-led square dancing pit. She's doing 4 local shows, 2 at 9:30 in DC and 2 at Fletcher's in Blatimore, and I will be at at least one. I think the first 9:30 Club show is sold out though. (Um, that would be your show.) You never really know what MS is going to do, as the changing styles on her album indicated. Last time she seemed to be toying with being a diva in crushed velvet, which I didn't think worked all that well, but didn't last for the whole show. She had a band with horns, but was giving it more of a swing feel than the New Orleans brass punch I was expecting. Her previous pass through town was solo with an electric guitar, and she played stark versions of many of the songs she played last year. She talked about the New Orleans influence on her new music (she had just moved there), so I was expecting something slightly different. Anyway, I don't think you should feel distressed at having to go. Other interesting local shows --- Cassandra Wilson this SUnday Joan Baez, March 27. Looks like Joan is really trying to break Richard Shindell these days. Not only does she cover 3 of his songs on the new album, but the ad says "introducing Richard Shindell". And a not to be missed appearance by Victoria WIlliams at the Birchmere - March 16. Neal np: Lisa Cerbone - Mercy ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 12:50:02 -0800 (PST) From: Renee Canada Subject: more embarassments... okay, my first michael jackson album was _bad_, not thriller. :) I also loved madonna for the longest time, as well as Cyndi Lauper(good ol' time after time). My parents had records of Donna Summer, Barbra Streisand and others of the like, so I listened to them in the earlier years. Wow, all these bands i forget-Duran Duran, tears for Fears...(and who said Quiet Riot?? lol) Anyways, that's all from my memory for now. :) Renee laverick@leland.stanford.edu ********* "I do it for the joy it brings because I'm a joyful girl because the world owes me nothing and we owe each other the world I do it because it's the least I can do I do it because I learned it from you And I do it just because I want to..." - -Ani DiFranco from "Joyful Girl" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 14:34:19 -0600 (CST) From: "Joseph S. Zitt" Subject: Re: Bad superheroes, Missing Persons, and sundry On Thu, 12 Feb 1998, David Dixon wrote: > Unfortunately, I only had time to go see a couple movies, one of which was > awful ("The Atrocity Exhibition," based on the J. G. Ballard experimental Trigger sound of one mind boggling: I can't even begin to imagine how anyone made a movie of this! Compared to this book, Naked Lunch is a straightahead action adventure pageturner. I'd be eager to see it, even knowing it's awful. - - ---------1---------1---------1---------1---------1---------1---------- |||/ Joseph Zitt ===== jzitt@humansystems.com ===== Human Systems \||| ||/ Maryland? = <*> SILENCE: The John Cage Mailing List <*> = ecto \|| |/ http://www.realtime.net/~jzitt ====== Comma: Voices of New Music \| ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 17:08:03 -0500 From: Valerie Nozick Subject: Favorite Movies Warning: My list is incomplete. Every year I make it a point to see all the nominees for Best Picture. As of now, I've seen all but Good Will Hunting. Nevertheless, here are my comments about 1997 movies: Best movie that should win the Oscar but won't: LA Confidential Most over-hyped movie: Titanic (why, oh why, are people going back to see this a gajillion times???) Stinker of the year: Cop Land (someone should tell Sly Stallone to SHUT UP ALREADY) Shake-your-head, what-a-bizarre-little-film movie: As Good As It Gets Hats (and everything else) off award: The Full Monty I Swear, I Really Lived It award: Romy & Michele's High School Reunion Trite Plot award: Kiss the Girls (yeah, like I didn't figure out who 'dunnit in the first 5 minutes) I Swear, I Really Lived It award, part 2: My Best Friend's Wedding Character I Most Want to be Friends With: Rupert Everett's character from MBFW Character I Most Want to Be: Jodie Foster's character from Contact Lame Sequel Award: Speed II (a cruise ship speeding? Only if the port-of-call were a Depends factory) Coolest Re-Release Award: Star Wars, natch Most underappreciated movie: Anastasia Should Have Paid More Attention to Historical Fact Award: Anastasia and Titanic (for different reasons. Anastasia was totally inaccurate; Titanic was inaccurate but wasted too much time with a contrived storyline) Movie that Contributed the Most Hip Phrases: Austin Powers (yeah, baby) Actor Stuck in a Movie Way Below His Talent Level: Timothy Dalton in Beautician and the Beast Movie I Liked Despite Myself: Picture Perfect (Jennifer Aniston) *TV Show that I Just Don't Get: Ally McBeal (she's anorexic and neurotic - -- this is supposed to be a role model for girls???) * Honorable category, 'cause I really hate this show and need to share my pain And while on the subject of movies, there's one really cool thing to report. Someone I went to school with, Matthew Lillard, is about to hit the big time. He was the killer in Scream, and has seven movies coming out in 1998 (including Senseless). He even has three web sites dedicated to him. It's pretty awesome to watch a classmate hit the big time. ==> Valerie ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 17:40:16 -0500 (EST) From: Neal Copperman Subject: Re: throat singers On Thu, 12 Feb 1998, dmw wrote: > On Thu, 12 Feb 1998, Neal Copperman wrote: > > > np: Come Dancing With The Kings - The Best of The Kings 1977-1986 > > the kinks, surely!? i thought the kings were a new-wave one-hit wonder... yeah, what he said. Can't figure out how I mistyped it both times. Off to DC for some pre-Patty Griffin sushi.... Neal np; Land of the Blind - Out of Chaos (into the Whirlwind) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 18:16:41 -0500 (EST) From: 00jnweiser@bsuvc.bsu.edu Subject: Rekindled love for Ani w/ Plastic Castle release :) Okay... I must admit, it's been months since I've listened to any of my Ani D. cds (see, I have this little tara boot problem...i'm addicted :), but, I *finally* got my pre-copy of Ani's new cd, and I *love* it. It's great. Really. :) Run to thy cd store! I have a question, though. Someone, either on FTE or Ecto mentioned the use of horns on this album, and even though I've only listened to 1/2 of it so far, the only song I've heard w/ horns is "Little Plastic Castle"...? I'm wondering if she (Ani) has said in interviews or anything if she wanted to try something different w/ this album or...? She's tried some experimental things w/ this album, and I like it. THe production is really good, I think... Okay, I realize it isn't avaiable until the 17th, so don't hate me for posting this, okay?? :) Jessica ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 19:15:25 -0500 From: "Chris Beckwith" Subject: Re: childhood music awareness Hi Jill: > I hadn't thought of Claudine Longet in ages! She sang "I Love How > You Love Me," yes? In that whispery little voice of hers......with > that French speaking stuff in parts of the song...... There's an amazing Claudine Longet web page at http://users.deltanet.com/~gondola/longet/longet.html with loads of Claudine trivia, including her friendship with the late John Denver (hey, you don't imagine she did somethng to his plane, do you? Naah... :) Take care, Chris np: Kate St. John, "Second Sight" (former Dream Academy member's second solo CD with many great songs, some of them in the chanteuse tradition--just bought it today! Whatta coincidence...:) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 18:36:12 -0600 (CST) From: "Mitchell A. Pravatiner" Subject: Films My life is such a blur of activity now that I have not the time to single out ten films, or indeed ten of anything else. But someone mentioned he had yet to see _Different for Girls_, and I would like to recommend that one. Mitch ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 19:51:13 -0500 From: Paul Blair Subject: Re: Emma Townshend (was: So long ago!!!) Patrick Varker wrote: > Has anyone got any info on Emma Townshend whom I believe is Pete's daughter. >I have an advance copy of her disc but have only skimmed through it. What I've >heard sounds pretty good. At times there's even Tori reminders to it. She >also is being handled by EW. Fascinating! When I did some graduate studies in Cambridge in the late 80s, Emma was an undergraduate at my college, Kings. I didn't know her very well, though I did know she was Pete Townshend's daughter. Nice to hear she's got a musical career of her own now. - --Paul ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 20:07:54 -0600 (CST) From: "Lawrence J. Kim" Subject: That movie string... Sorry for the non-music post, but movies and music go hand-in-hand, IMO. In no particular order... 1) L.A. Confidential - the most engrossing and well-acted movie this year. Spacey, Crowe, Pierce, Basinger, and Cromwell should've all gotten Oscar nods. 2) The Pillow Book - absolutely beautiful; a lot better than 'The Cook, The Thief, His Wifer & Her Lover', IMO 3) Kissed - not for the faint of heart; plus, the best line of the whole year is near the end of the movie; lots of Ecto music on here 4) In the Company of Men 5) Face/Off - best American action movie ever made 6) Boogie Nights 7) Contact - best movie of the summer 8) My Best Friend's Wedding - cute 9) Chasing Amy 10) Tomorrow Never Dies - only 'cos I love James Bond movies... Worst: Spawn - not even the f/x could save it Mortal Kombat 2 Okay, I've taken enough of your time... Lawrence ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 21:01:24 -0600 From: rjk1@cs.wustl.edu (Bob Kollmeyer) Subject: Holly Cole Hi all, As Irvin said, plenty has been said here about Holly Cole's current tour, though after seeing it for myself Tuesday night, I can't say that enough could possibly be said. ;) Incredible indeed, not just Holly, but the entire current band configuration. Definately in their best element live. The small club was almost packed - more than a bit strange for a weeknight in St. Louis. ;) Two glowing articles previewing it in the local paper and local weekly probably had something to do with that - the former even proclaiming it "one of the hottest tickets on the concert scene" - this on the same night Yanni was playing about 10 blocks away to 10,000 people (at $40-$60 a head, except for those who paid $500 as part of the local PBS pledge drive when we were assaulted with his show sometimes twice daily for two solid weeks during the pledge drive...) in a hockey arena. I went in familiar only with Temptation (and having seen the video for "I've Just Seen a Face" on a local cable public access music show, which, to my delight, was giving away a couple of passes, a pair of which I won, proving that sometimes it pays to procrastinate when purchasing tickets ;) ), having picked it up probably close to 2 years ago now, and though it took a listen or 3 to get into, I've grown quite fond of it. Naturally, the set was weighted towards the new album, but they did touch most bases in the all-too-short 80 minute set. I've since picked up Dark Dear Heart and after 2 listens (on 4 hours sleep, so I reserve the right to change judgement at any point... ;) ), I'd have to say I still prefer Temptation, if only for the atmosphere it does such an amazing job of creating. There are some gems on DDH (Joni Mitchell's "River" among others), to be sure, but it seems to have a bit of an awkward flow - a bit piecemeal in the strange kind of way that usually only "greatest hits" albums exhibit. Live, however, the new stuff flowed well, even intertwined with older material, leading me to believe it may just be part of me attempting to judge the new album based on the live experience. We'll see. In short, I have to echo the sentiments already expressed here - don't miss the tour if it's heading your way (which pretty much just leaves Canada and the Pacific Northwest for now, I believe), and kick yourself hard if you did. bob ps. Anyone else notice an eerie resemblance between George Koller (the bassist) and David Nields (beyond the bald head and the performance of Que Sera Sera)? I did a double take - I think it was the eyes/nose - George has more of a mad-scientistish cranium, though, or it would be really spooky. 8) np - Another Girl - In the Galaxy ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 21:59:23 -0500 From: meredith Subject: ani difranco and movies and more Hi! Movies. I know about those things. Those things I always plan to see but never do. Want the complete list of movies I saw last year (and this includes rentals and movies on tv)? - -- Clerks (I just don't get why this movie got all the hype it did -- I hated it) - -- Toy Story (thanks, Valerie :) - -- The Fifth Element (lots of fun, even though it wasn't really that good) - -- Contact (ranked second only to BRAZIL as the best movie I've ever seen - -- it's a crime that it didn't come out within a few weeks of the Oscars so everyone forgot about it :P) - -- Men In Black (hilarious, though I didn't remember one little thing about it ten minutes after I got home) - -- Alien Resurrection (ugh. Just, ugh.) - -- Suburbia (Tamar rented it because Eric Bogosian wrote it -- not bad, though a bit self-indulgent) I think that's it. Pretty sad, huh? But there are just too many live concerts to see -- that leaves no time for movies! Speaking of which, this is going to be another one of Those weekends: Dar Williams at the Academy of Music in Northampton (while woj and Mike see Altan at the Iron Horse) tomorrow, then the Nields at the Iron Horse on Sunday. Whee! :) Anyway, Valerie awarded: >I Swear, I Really Lived It award: Romy & Michele's High School Reunion >I Swear, I Really Lived It award, part 2: My Best Friend's Wedding That's scary for more reasons than I care to compile. ;> My copy of Ani DiFranco's _Little Plastic Castle_ arrived in the mail today. I'm not sure what I think of it yet -- but all of her recent albums (with the exception of _Living in Clip_) have taken a while to sort themselves out in my head. However, the album's closing epic, the 14-minute "Pulse" is every bit as brilliant as I'd heard it is. Oh, and for CT-area 'philes, tickets for her show at the Palace in New Haven on 4/11 go on sale next Monday at 10 am. @L commented: >I've got extremely eclectic taste...and I often make the mistake of >expecting those around me to appreciate the same things...people leave >the house for 2 hours when I play Jesus Christ Superstar and turn their >nose up at lentil soup with vinegar What on earth for?!? My Greek lentil soup (with vinegar, which is a good thing because it would be positively without any taste whatsoever without it) is rapidly becoming legendary. If you're ever in CT, stop on by and I'll make you some. :) Neal inquired re the literary Nields mention: >Meredith or anyone else on the Neilds' Nook - know if this has come to >light there? The Neilds will be in town in a week or so, and if they >don't already know of this, I'll make a point of giving them a copy. I haven't seen anything about it -- in fact, I'm going to post that tidbit there right now. (I just want to check one thing -- their name is spelled correctly in the book, right? :} You should definitely give them a copy! >Joan Baez, March 27. Looks like Joan is really trying to break Richard >Shindell these days. Not only does she cover 3 of his songs on the new >album, but the ad says "introducing Richard Shindell". Cool! He deserves all the recognition he can get, for sure. +==========================================================================+ | Meredith Tarr meth@smoe.org | | New Haven, CT USA http://www.smoe.org/~meth | +==========================================================================+ | "things are more beautiful when they're obscure" -- veda hille | | *** TRAJECTORY: the Veda Hille mailing list *** | | *** http://www.smoe.org/meth/trajectory.html *** | +==========================================================================+ ------------------------------ End of ecto-digest V4 #50 *************************