From: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org (ecto-digest) To: ecto-digest@smoe.org Subject: ecto-digest V3 #110 Reply-To: ecto@smoe.org Sender: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Saturday, December 20 1997 Volume 03 : Number 110 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Quick question(s) [nightwol@dircon.co.uk (Steve Fagg)] Re: Quick question(s) [Riphug ] Hip Sarah [Dan Stark ] Re: Hip Sarah [Michael Colford ] The ecto list (warning, LONG) [Neile Graham ] Stop the presses! List revision to follow [charleydarbo ] Re: The ecto list (warning, LONG) [Neile Graham ] Re: The ecto list (warning, LONG) [JEFFREY_HANSON@ccmail.udlp.com (JEFFRE] femme music collection [squeaky watson ] Re: Quick question(s) [squeaky watson ] Re: The ecto list (warning, LONG) ["Neil K. Guy" ] warning: opinions ahead [meredith ] SV, Letters to Cleo [dgp@world.std.com] Happy Festivus! [sspan ] 32 flavors [The Watcher ] Attention CT Dar Fans [meredith ] Re: 32 flavors [meredith ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 09:36:16 +0000 (GMT) From: nightwol@dircon.co.uk (Steve Fagg) Subject: Quick question(s) Robert I. Stewart wrote: > Just some mindless wonderings of an ecto semi-lurker (who doesn't > find the ecto list at all intimidating :)... Great to see you are still in touch, Robert, semi-lurker or not! > It makes a lot more sense to "swop" something with somebody. > The problem is, I'm not sure what I have to offer... > > If anybody out there has any suggestions, please let me know. Well, if you could find a stack more of that Jennifer Ferguson CD you sent me ("Hand Around the Heart") or anything else by her I'm sure they'd be appreciated. She's really good, very Ecto, and as far as I know, only available in SA. But then you could have guessed I'd say that, couldn't you? ;-) Do you know if anything else of hers has made it to CD yet? I'm still itching to get my hands on a CD with the original version of "Suburban Hum". The version on "Hand Around the Heart" is very interersting but the original is something else! Good though Vickie's Femme Music Collection tape is, we don't play cassettes in the house much. TTFN Steve n.p. Walton: Belshazzar's Feast - Terfel/BBC SO+Ch/Davis n.r. Halo - Tom Maddox (boy, that's been on my shelf of books-to-read a heck of a long time! Pretty good too, though its style already seems somewhat dated - brings back memories of "Islands in the Net" and "Mona Lisa Overdrive") - -- Steve Fagg (nightwol@dircon.co.uk) http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Metro/1313/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 08:39:40 EST From: Riphug Subject: Re: Quick question(s) In a message dated 97-12-19 04:52:51 EST, nightwol@dircon.co.uk writes: << Well, if you could find a stack more of that Jennifer Ferguson CD you sent me ("Hand Around the Heart") or anything else by her I'm sure they'd be appreciated. She's really good, very Ecto, and as far as I know, only available in SA. >> Well, once again the ectophiles have intrigued me.....so I did a little websearching on Jennifer Ferguson. For those of you interested, you can order her CD "Hand Around the Heart" from Madiba Music -- price is $17 (US) with a $5 S&H charge. I don't know what it would be in Ukanian dollars or anything else. Here's the website where I found this information: Madiba Music - e Africa - Tic Tic Bang - Jenn... *hugs and kisses* Jill :D ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 09:28:53 -0500 From: Dan Stark Subject: Hip Sarah Hi, Since I'm not of the FTE list I thought I'd pass this quick note along here. Besides, it gives me my first opportunity ever to mention my favorite non-ecto band, The Tragically Hip, on this list! :) They have just posted the following on their mailing list: For fans of the obscure, we have just contributed an alternate version of Emergency from Day For Night, featuring Sarah McLachlan on backing vocals to a CD to raise funds for World Vision. The CD is to be released on Nettwerk Records sometime in 1998. Dan np: nothing. silence. strange silence. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 11:05:58 -0500 (EST) From: Michael Colford Subject: Re: Hip Sarah On Fri, 19 Dec 1997, Dan Stark wrote: > here. Besides, it gives me my first opportunity ever to mention my > favorite non-ecto band, The Tragically Hip, on this list! :) They have Hey, I wouldn't necessarily say that The Tragically Hip are non-ecto! True, they don't have a female vocalist, but they do write and perform intelligent, thoughtful, damn good music! Glad to see another fan here, Michael n.p. Fleetwood Mac - Tango in the Night! n.r. After Nirvana by Lee Williams - -------------------------------------------------------------------- Michael Colford | Reading Public Library Head of Technical Services | Reading, Massachusetts colford@noblenet.org | *North of Boston Library Exchange* - -------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 11:40:50 -0700 From: Neile Graham Subject: The ecto list (warning, LONG) I'm finding this whole list problem a frustrating experience. Maybe it's because I simply have been on the list too long to be able to see it with any perspective, but I don't understand where these bad feelings about the list come from and would appreciate private clarification. Maybe it's because I see the list as a collection of individuals, some of whose comments I appreciate more than others, and some of those individuals simply appear larger on my personal attention screen because of familiarity (which I require because I have no short-term memory and it means that people who only post once or twice I generally don't notice unless they make review-type comments I can use in the Guide or at least I might not remember that I noticed them which I'm sorry about but is the way my head is wired). I am unable to see the list as an entity in itself. Yes, there are opinionated individuals on the list, but I personally welcome that. Is it that we "shouldn't" welcome opinions if we consider ourselves a friendly list? Should we be asking people not to be so opinionated? I feel stupid, and that because I like the list so much, I must be defective. I've stuck with ecto over the years because I get a lot of wonderful info about music from it, and I'm relatively thickskinned about strong opinions because I have them too. Maybe that explains it. And the HUGE majority of comments are on the "damn I loved hearing such and such" level than on the "I hated so and so") and I can prove it because of the copies of comments I have stored for the Guide. It's something like 50 to 1 positive to negative (I'm guessing here). Is it just that the negatives stick out so much and are more encompassing of certain genres of music?? I've been on a LOT of music mailing lists over the years, and ecto is the only one I've stuck with because the are no other lists with such great signal-to-noise ratio for me. (Except the Passion list, but it has such a very different focus it's not like a "music list"). Are there other lists out there as wide-ranging and flame free as ecto because if there are I want to know about them. I'm not being sarcastic. People talk about how great the jewel-list's Everyday Angels are, and I'm sure there are wonderful people on the list (Alan is of course a fine example of this), but I left it because of the chatter and high number of people posting clueless & barely readable messages and because the flaming there made the list unpleasant for me. There are similar reasons why I've left other lists. Over the years I've been on lovehounds (at least through Usenet, still check in there), the jewel list, the ani list, the Loreena list, the Sarah list, 3 different Tori lists, the Veda list (I'm still on that), the Flash Girls list, the siblings list, the Innocence Mission list, and probably others I can't remember now. All of them seemed more bother than they were worth for what I got out of them (no offense to anyone on these lists--it's just how they worked for me). Is that what's happening here? But it seems like there's more to it than that, because people feel the need to comment publically that the list is in some way offending them. I just don't understand the offense. Well, what the hell. I opinionated, have strong and limited musical tastes which I freely admit to, and I write poetry, so I'm probably some weird kind of elitist that I'm blind to myself because it's me. But then I also write genre fiction so I must be of the people, too. I'm confused...but fuck it. I'm defective. I love ecto. I love its high signal-to-noise ratio, the wide-ranging tastes of the people here, its tolerance of opinionated people and disagreements about musical tastes, and most of all its unwillingness to say what ecto is or isn't. The Tragically Hip is ecto music because people on ecto like it. Right? I mean, it's as much like Happy's music as the Nields or Veda Hille. Are people less familiar with the list interpreting the "it's not ecto but I like it" comment as a _negative_ thing rather than a "I think this is probably not to all ectophiles' tastes" thing the way I do? Seriously, if any disaffected people on the list would email me privately to explain to me about this I would honestly appreciate it because it bugs me that I Simply Don't Get It, and I would like to understand. I can only guess at it. Maybe people find the many long posts (like this one) intimidating?? The lack of real chatter & posted jokes (which a lot of people interpret as "friendly" but I find frustrating)? That we consider ourselves friendly but don't mind when people express their opinions bluntly? That people here generally don't like what's offered on the radio? I truly don't see the list as having strong boundaries as to what is ecto, but I've been here long enough to see appreciations of all kinds of music. Maybe I just need to get them all out onto the Guide and available so we can prove it. And maybe I just don't get it. In any case, I'm not going to spend any more public space discussing it. Even my husband, an ecto lurker, has complained about _that_. - --Neile - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Neile Graham ..... http://www.sff.net/people/neile ..... neile@sff.net The Ectophiles' Guide to Good Music .... http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 14:12:35 +0000 From: charleydarbo Subject: Stop the presses! List revision to follow I forgot about my number-three album because Vickie's had it for _months_. New list, still subject to revision: 1. The Geraldine Fibbers: . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . _Butch_ 2. Spiritualized: . _Ladies_and_Gentlemen_We_Are_Floating_in_Space_ 3. The Blue Nile:. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ._Peace_at_Last_ 4. Portishead: . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . _Portishead_ 5. Ragga and the Jack Magic Orchestra: . . . . . . . . [Eponymous] 6. Katell Keinig: . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . _Jet_ 7. k.d. lang:. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . _Drag_ 8. Future Bible Heroes: . . . . . . . . . . . . ._Memories_of_Love_ 9. [Various]:. . . . . _Get_Easy_Vol.3:_The_French_Pops_Collection_ 10. Laika: . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ._Sounds_of_the_Satellites_ reviews to follow. maybe. How many months has it been since I've posted a review? - --charleydarbo n.p. The Blue Nile: _Hats_ n.r. Rick Bass: _The_Book_of_Yaak_ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 15:11:33 -0600 From: Owen L Magee Subject: Re: The ecto list (warning, LONG) On Fri, Dec 19, 1997 at 11:40:50AM -0700, Neile Graham wrote: > > I've been on a LOT of music mailing lists over the years, and ecto is the > only one I've stuck with because the are no other lists with such great > signal-to-noise ratio for me. Funny. In my 4+ years of ecto-lurking, I've always liked the list for the exact opposite reason (that is, its high noise-to-signal ratio). Of course, I guess it depends on how you define signal. I define it as "all the posts being directly related to what the list is ostensibly about"--for this list, Happy Rhodes. I love how ecto can talk about anything and everything, not just music related. Movies. Dreams. Vickie's(?) weird pair of headphones. Whatever. Somehow, though, I'm almost always interested in all the topics discussed. But I see your point, too, Neile. Just semantics, I suppose. Incidentally, I'd like to say that I love Ingrid Karklin's _Red Hand_. I second (or third? fourth?) Neile's request that you all send in you orders for it. Heck, even if you don't like it, at least you'll have cool packaging :) Owen ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 13:46:02 -0700 From: Neile Graham Subject: Re: The ecto list (warning, LONG) Owen L Magee wrote: >Funny. In my 4+ years of ecto-lurking, I've always liked the list for >the exact opposite reason (that is, its high noise-to-signal ratio). Of >course, I guess it depends on how you define signal. I define it as "all >the posts being directly related to what the list is ostensibly >about"--for this list, Happy Rhodes. I love how ecto can talk about >anything and everything, not just music related. Movies. Dreams. >Vickie's(?) weird pair of headphones. Whatever. Somehow, though, I'm >almost always interested in all the topics discussed. Yes, I agree with this. My definition has more to do with lack of "me, too" and "what did you have for breakfast" posts and forwarding of humourous and/or inspirational pieces, most of which I simply find unfunny and/or simply irritating. And Owen is also right that everyone should buy Ingrid's disc because even if her music isn't to your taste, the packaging is gorgeous and will impress _someone_ on your Valentine's present list should you feel the need to pass it on. I feel amazed and grateful for the work and care Ingrid put into just the physical/visual experience of opening that disc. It truly does prepare you for the music. - --Neile - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Neile Graham ..... http://www.sff.net/people/neile ..... neile@sff.net The Ectophiles' Guide to Good Music .... http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 14:41:57 -0600 From: JEFFREY_HANSON@ccmail.udlp.com (JEFFREY HANSON) Subject: Re: The ecto list (warning, LONG) I agree with Neile's opinions of ecto, and am also kind of baffled by the recent discussion. I can certainly understand some reasons for unsubbing--being overwhelmed by the many artists you've never heard of being discussed, or possibly feeling excluded since many of the long-timers often refer to each other and joke around with each other within messages, or for possibly feeling slighted if no one responds to a particular posting (but hey, that happens to all of us.) Ecto has been a very special place for me. It is my primary source of new music, and I've discovered lots of great artists (Veda Hille, Sarah Slean, Jewel, Happy herself--though I had at least heard of her before joining the list, thanks to rec.music.gaffa, Mari Boine, Kindness of Strangers, etc. etc.), but I've also had the opportunity to meet several ectophiles personally, and I can now count at least one of my best friends among them. I've also discovered non-musical things, like authors such as Keri Hulme and Jonathon Carroll. Some of the ectophiles I haven't personally met, but I feel like I know (such as Neile). Ecto made my move to Minneapolis easier, because it allowed me to meet people to go to concerts with, and e-mail people who pointed out local artists to watch for (such as The Flash Girls and February). I'm soon planning on moving to Arizona and look forward to meeting or at least e-mailing ectophiles in that area. Ecto is definitely a community. It's not a utopia. But I'm sure glad I've stuck with it for as long as I have, and I intend to stick around for quite a while longer. NOt sure what my point is, but since its the end of the year, and the Christmas season, I have to say that ecto is one thing I am truly thankful for. I feel really blessed to have such a great musical resource, and so many opinions I can trust. I don't always agree with all of the musical tastes expressed here (I still don't get Rasputina, for instance), but I've certainly found no other list, magazine, radio station or other musical resource that provides so much timely, helpful hints to help guide me in spending my CD $. Perhaps Neile and I are falling into the same thin-skinned response as others do if something negative is said about one of their favorite artists. I'm pretty open to people complaining about any artist, but when you complain about something that I love as much as ecto, I guess I'm bound to get a little defensive and incredulous. Hope _everyone_ on the list has a very Happy Holiday season! Jeff Hanson ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 18:02:27 -0500 From: squeaky watson Subject: femme music collection speaking of the femme music collection, does anyone still have a listing of what songs/artists are on these tapes? i lost my print-out of this long, long, long ago... thanks, woj ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 17:52:01 -0500 From: squeaky watson Subject: Re: Quick question(s) also sprach Riphug: >Well, once again the ectophiles have intrigued me.....so I did a little >websearching on Jennifer Ferguson. > >For those of you interested, you can order her CD "Hand Around the Heart" from >Madiba Music -- price is $17 (US) with a $5 S&H charge. I don't know what it >would be in Ukanian dollars or anything else. one small warning: it does not appear that this website has been updated since january of 1997. i've written a short note to a contact address listed on the site and will forward any information i get back to ecto. woj n.p. npr -- all things considered ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 18:44:26 -0800 From: "Neil K. Guy" Subject: Re: The ecto list (warning, LONG) My only comment is this. You remember how you were at a party as a kid or a teenager? And people were hanging out, having a good time. When suddenly someone got up and whined "You're all booooring!" and stamped out, leaving everyone else feeling bad and perhaps somehow guilty for enjoying themselves. Well it looks like grown adults do the same thing on mailing lists too. A shame. Why can't people simply unsub quietly and gracefully? Makes the world a better place to be in all 'round. - Neil K. - -- t e l a computer consulting + design * Vancouver, BC, Canada phone: (604) 254-1002 * email: tela@tela.bc.ca web: http://www.tela.bc.ca/tela/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 23:09:42 -0500 From: meredith Subject: warning: opinions ahead Hi! Every once in a while, something happens on this list that just completely baffles and befuddles me. This week has been one of those times. I'm not going to waste much bandwidth over it, save to say that I agree with every word Neile has typed on the subject. If anyone sends her a note privately in response to her request for enlightenment, please cc me as well, because I'm feeling like I'm just Not Getting It too, and that's bugging the hell out of me. I'm feeling bad about loving ecto as much as I do, and there's something just not right with that. That said, I'm going to jump into the fray with my 1997 In Review. I probably won't have much time for this sort of thing before I leave for Tucson, and it will be next year when I get back, so: Top 10 Albums Of The Year: I don't think I've ever had as much trouble picking a #1. Basically, 1 through 4 on my list are only <> much apart... really. (I should probably just save myself a headache and list them alphabetically, but that would be too easy. :) But the rest were pretty easy to rank. Weird. 1.) Veda Hille, _Here Is A Picture (Songs For E Carr)_ I know I've only had it a week, but this is music that resonates in my soul, from the first plaintive piano note to the last, fading into the distance at the end. The melody shared by "Boat Ride To Skidegate" and "Meeting The Group of 7" is one of the most gorgeous ever. This is one I'll be discovering over and over again for a long time. 2.) Ingrid Karklins, _Red Hand_ Another one that I'm going to be discovering for a long time. (I *like* the bass. :) The range of emotions here is stunning. It pulls you in and refuses to let go. And that's not even talking about the 100% individually hand-made packaging! This is Ingrid sharing a bit of herself with us, and I consider myself quite lucky to be along for the ride. 3.) Katell Keineg, _Jet_ Lush, yet sparse when it needs to be. Wonderfully barely-decodable lyrics. Nary a weak track to be found, and ends with a subdued, emotional bang. Great music to drive to. 4.) Dar Williams, _End Of The Summer_ This disc has been living in my car since the day it came out. I love the direction her music is going, and her songwriting is still as deeply engaging as ever ("If I Wrote You" can still bring tears to my eyes, so many months later). Her voice has really come a long way, too. Another perfect driving album. 5.) Susan McKeown and Lindsey Horner, _Through The Bitter Frost and Snow_ One of the few winter albums that I'm sure will stand up to listens even in midsummer. Susan's original songs really stand out, but the arrangements of the traditional carols are remarkable (and in some cases truly inspired), and Lindsey's songs are quite good too. Susan is in fine voice here, as usual, and it's amazing just how good a multinstrumentalist Lindsey is. An instant holiday must-have. 6.) Mila Drumke, _Illinois_ Every year has to have a musical discovery, and this year Mila was it. There's nothing particularly groundbreaking or mind-blowing about this album, but for some reason it's just Great Stuff all around. And her cover of "Under The Ivy" is worth the price of admission in and of itself. :) Unfortunately I didn't get a chance to see her play live this year, but it looks like January is going to change that. Yay. 7.) Ani DiFranco, _Living In Clip_ This is Ani at her best: live and with the band. Some of the production is rather baffling (especially the cuts on the second disc), and I really could do without the bits with the Buffalo Philharmonic Orchestra, but that's what the skip button is for, right? This is an essential collection for any Ani fan, and an excellent introduction for anyone interested in finding out what Ani's up to these days. 8.) Beth Orton, _Trailer Park_ It took me a long time to get into this album, but when I finally gave it the time it deserved I realized just why so many people were raving about it so loudly. Rich, creamy, and gorgeous. 9.) Laura Love, _Octoroon_ Laura's major-label debut was a pleasant surprise, after the mild disappointment of _Helvetica Bold_. Groovy, goofy, and just plain fun. Another great driving disc. 10.) Richard Shindell, _Reunion Hill_ What can I say? It's Richard, one of the supreme gods of songwriting. I still think I like _Sparrows Point_ better, but there are some real gems here, and I've listened to it quite a lot. Honorable mentions: - -- Jane Siberry, _Child_ (another instant classic holiday album, just add water) - -- Loreena McKennitt, _The Book of Secrets_ (would probably have had a ranking if I'd had a chance to listen to it more) - -- Indigo Girls, _Shaming Of The Sun_ (another good one for the car, but it just didn't fit on the list) - -- Patty Larkin, _Perishable Fruit_ (some really fascinating songs, but some misses too) - -- Rainbirds, _Forever_ (haven't had much of a chance with this one yet, but I know I like it) Disappointments of the Year: - -- Sarah McLachlan, _Surfacing_ ("Quick Pierre, we've got to finish this album now!" "But Sarah, you've only half-written the songs, and I haven't even begun to do anything productionwise here." "But Lilith Fair starts in two months, and I have to have new product on the shelves by then. I don't have time to finish it!" :P) - -- 10,000 Maniacs, _Love Among The Ruins_ (What happens when you take a great band, bring back its original creative spark and add a keen new violist and vocalist, then do absolutely nothing with what you've got and overproduce the hell out of it. Sigh.) Songs of the Year (these are the tracks that demand the "repeat" key and much, much volume -- listen 15 times in succession and call me in the morning): - -- Dar Williams, "Are You Out There" - -- Susan McKeown and Lindsey Horner, "The Winter King" - -- Veda Hille, "Meeting The Group of 7" Musical Discovery of the Year: - -- Mila Drumke (see above) Musical Aberration of the Year: - -- Dan Bern (Ugh. Just ... ugh. I'm sorry, but the concepts of aliens fucking monkeys and of stalking Ani DiFranco's mother do *not* enjoyable music make. ) Most Memorable Live Music Moments: 1997 will forever stick in my mind as the year I finally experienced Veda Hille live - seven times. :) :) :) I also attended my 25th Chanting House performance (and amazingly enough, Susan doesn't have a restraining order out against us yet. ;) There were lots of other shows of note, too: - -- Emily Bezar, January 25: Emily rented out a studio in New York City and invited a few people to come by to hang out, have some wine and cheese, and listen to her play. It was one of the most special musical evenings ever. It doesn't get much more intimate and interactive than that. - -- Happy at the Tin Angel, March 15: wonderful show, great time. - -- Katell Keineg at the Mercury Lounge, June 18: one of the best live shows I've ever seen. Really made me see the album in a new light. I wish I'd been able to see her play again this year! - -- Ingrid Karklins at The Buttonwood Tree, July 12: another definition of the word "intimate", and an excellent preview to a most excellent album. - -- Dar Williams and Band at the Iron Horse, September 17: Wow. Just, wow. Dar should never be allowed to play solo again. :) - -- Suzanne Vega at the Knitting Factory, October 4: I never thought I'd ever be standing six feet away from the stage watching Suzanne Vega sing some of my all-time favorite songs. - -- Susan McKeown and Lindsey Horner's record release party, October 17: From the arrangements to the company, it was an altogether magical evening. (You haven't lived until you've experienced "Jericho" sung with only a tin whistle and bodhran accompaniment. Yow.) - -- Susan McKeown and the Chanting House at Fez, November 22: The best I've ever seen the band, and one of the best set lists yet. - -- Veda Hille at CB's Gallery, December 11: Jaw-droppingly, amazingly wonderful. So there you have it. 1998 should be interesting: new albums by Happy, Tori, and Ani, among others (could we really see a new Kate Bush record before the year is out? Naaaah...), not to mention the promise of lots more live shows to travel an unbelievable amount of miles and miss way too much sleep to get to. I can't wait. :) +==========================================================================+ | Meredith Tarr meth@smoe.org | | New Haven, CT USA http://www.smoe.org/~meth | +==========================================================================+ | "things are more beautiful when they're obscure" -- veda hille | |***TRAJECTORY, the Veda Hille mailing list: trajectory-request@smoe.org***| +==========================================================================+ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 23:31:36 +0000 From: dgp@world.std.com Subject: SV, Letters to Cleo > I look forward to her 13 early songs CD that she talked about > releasing, that will feature songs from the first two album period of her > life, that she never released as she deemed them too personal at the time. I pray that one is Black Widow Station, a song which never made an album, but she did play in many of her live performances. I find her first album her best, although 99.9... is excellent. Small Blue Thing, for example was a piece that captured me completely. As for the sophmore slump, Sarah M is one who did not show this. My friend Mike and I argued long and loud about whether Touch or Solace was better...I prefer Solace. However, after living with FTE for a while, I am shocked at how hard it is to turn my attention back to Solace. Letters to Cleo I believe is Boston-based, and had their second (3rd maybe even) album out back in the Spring/Summer. I find them closer to what Julianna Hatfield is trying for, and just a touch lighter than what most people think of for Veruka Salt. I most closely associate them with Tribe. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Dec 1997 00:56:17 -0800 From: sspan Subject: Happy Festivus! Went to see Grey Eye Glances again, boy I love those Borders shows.. they're free, you get right up close with the band, and it gives me an excuse to buy more CDs So.. tonight I bought GEGs remastered private lable release Songs Of Leaving with a bonus track of Yes's Your Move (worth it just for that song) Also found Susan Werner's Midwestern Saturday Night and Live at the Tin Angel, both private label releases from '93.. I didn't even know these were still available.. Not a bad Friday night... :) - -- ++ -dave- ++ + irc.Dal.net #Panic_Beach + + Maria McKee/Grey Eye Glances/Lisa Loeb + ++ ++ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 23:14:21 -0600 (CST) From: The Watcher Subject: 32 flavors Hi, I haven't really kept up with Ecto in any way, shape or form since summer, so I don't know if this has been covered here previously. Anyway: Who has recently done a cover of Ani's 32 Flavors? Driving around, I heard this on the radio (twice! on different stations, almost one right after the other). I assume it's a cover; the voice and singing style don't sound like Ani to me. This version omits the bongo solo at the end, instead repeating (in a somewhat annoying, mantra-like way) a chorus of "I'm 32 flavors and then some", with some new lyrics interspersed between. (One of them is something about remembering where she comes from.) Anyone here know? John Higdon (The Watcher) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Dec 1997 00:36:11 -0500 From: meredith Subject: Attention CT Dar Fans Hi! I just heard about this today: Dar Williams will be doing a benefit concert for WPKN on Thursday, January 29 in Newtown, CT. Tickets are $15, and can be gotten in advance by sending a check to WPKN at 244 University Ave., Bridgeport, CT, 06004. Tickets are general admission. The show starts at 8, and the doors open at 7:30. I know I'll be there. :) Anybody else? +==========================================================================+ | Meredith Tarr meth@smoe.org | | New Haven, CT USA http://www.smoe.org/~meth | +==========================================================================+ | "things are more beautiful when they're obscure" -- veda hille | |***TRAJECTORY, the Veda Hille mailing list: trajectory-request@smoe.org***| +==========================================================================+ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Dec 1997 00:32:02 -0500 From: meredith Subject: Re: 32 flavors Hi! John inquired: > Who has recently done a cover of Ani's 32 Flavors? Driving around, >I heard this on the radio (twice! on different stations, almost one right >after the other). I assume it's a cover; the voice and singing style don't >sound like Ani to me. That would be Alana Davis (who apparently doesn't even credit Ani on the album, though I don't have it so I don't know that for sure). Mmm boy, but that version has generated a buzz on the Ani lists... ouch. :) +==========================================================================+ | Meredith Tarr meth@smoe.org | | New Haven, CT USA http://www.smoe.org/~meth | +==========================================================================+ | "things are more beautiful when they're obscure" -- veda hille | |***TRAJECTORY, the Veda Hille mailing list: trajectory-request@smoe.org***| +==========================================================================+ ------------------------------ End of ecto-digest V3 #110 **************************