From: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org (ecto-digest) To: ecto-digest@smoe.org Subject: ecto-digest V3 #35 Reply-To: ecto@smoe.org Sender: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Thursday, October 9 1997 Volume 03 : Number 035 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Borders (was Re: Mary Coughlin in San Mateo, CA, The Sound) [Joseph S] Borders thread and indie stores [forum@inlink.com (FORUM For Contemporary] beautiful south [forum@inlink.com (FORUM For Contemporary Art)] Re: Border's [Susan Krauss ] Re: Scheherazade [Richard Holmes ] indie stores vs chains ["J. Wermont" ] Angel........ [Quickling@aol.com] Re: Borders, Amazon.com, etc.(want more?) [Richard Holmes ] Re: Loreena McKennitt's _The Book of Secrets_ [dee zed stroke zero one fi] Re: guy evans and peter hammill [dee zed stroke zero one five ] Re: Borders, Amazon.com, etc.(want more?) [Philip David Morgan ] glut [dee zed stroke zero one five ] Re: anyone hear me? [dee zed stroke zero one five ] Lisa Cerbone shows [Neal Copperman ] spam and musical atrophy and random bits [Damon des Jumeaux ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 08:08:37 -0500 (CDT) From: Joseph S Zitt Subject: Re: Borders (was Re: Mary Coughlin in San Mateo, CA, The Sound) On Tue, 7 Oct 1997, Heather Russell wrote: > They are also (due in part to pressure by movie and TV director Michael > Moore of "Roger and Me" fame) allowing their workers to organize unions. This is good to hear. The one big negative thing I had heard about Borders was the anti-union thing. I'm quite pleased that they're clearing that up. I don't seem to have found any good local music or book stores around Gaithersburg, or even much in DC itself. It makes the book/record scene in Austin seem that much more astounding. (OTOH, I went into megaEWS on a trip to NYC last weekend: 11 CDs and a video, though the only artist whose work I got who I've seen even mentioned on Ecto is Pauline Oliveros.) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 10:43:05 -0500 (CDT) From: forum@inlink.com (FORUM For Contemporary Art) Subject: Borders thread and indie stores one of the reasons everyone who shuns the big superstores also tend to like Borders (albeit with a little guilt) is because they are a better superstore. Borders was started by bookpeople, and consistantly try to operate with that in mind, and when they expanded into music, and video, they kept that in mind as well. Each Borders bookstore is operated as if it is an independent bookstore, with the actual booksellers doing the displays and book groups (in some Borders, you are required to either join or start up a specific book group). Policies change and vary at each Borders site as well, and the sales clerks actually have quite a say on what is on display and what gets lost in the spine out shelves. Other things to keep in mind with Borders is that they have quite a history in supporting independent publishers and independent/local writers. Often you can find a separate wall of just independent publishers, or local writers. No other chainstore goes out of their way to support independents like Borders does. Barnes and Noble (the only other book superstore) are not in the book business. they are just a business like any other business. and they operate that way. Barnes and Noble has it roots in just selling college textbooks, before expanding into their current "full service" store. They have always operated with the idea to sell you something, as opposed to help foster a sense of literature or of expanding the mind. Their only nod towards forward thinking is their DISCOVERY section that highlights first time authors and newly published books by lesser known authors, all faced out (on display) with a little summary of the book. The catch to this of course is that to be put into the DISCOVERY section, the publisher has to pay B&N the shelf space. If you have the money you can get your book on display. Cutting edge alumni from the DISCOVERY section include BRIDGES over MADISON COUNTY and CELESTINE PROPHECIES. I have worked in both an independent bookstore (LEFT BANK BOOKS, which is now the ONLY full service independent in st. louis, with two independents that closed in the past two years and one independent being sold off to Borders) and a chain (B DALTON'S a subdivision of Barnes and Noble). I will continue to shop at independents, and occasionally at Borders through convenience sake (the independent bookstore that was sold to Borders is up the street from me - though i rarely purchase anything there, instead listening to things or browsing and then buying them elsewhere, usually used). I am also lucky to have a really good independent record store, VINTAGE VINYL that consistantly prices their music at a lower price-new, and also stock a very good used selection of CD. Keep in mind one thing though. for those who do have independent bookstores, please frequent them, because despite all the wonderful thing that Borders does, they are a corporation. And like all corporations, it is easy to walmart-ize the world. Borders moved in two blocks down from the independent bookstore CITYBOOKS and closed them down within 6 months. with one independent bookstore left in St. Louis, we could soon become a large metropolitan city (roughly pop. 2 million) without ANY independent bookstores. If this can happen here, it can happen anywhere. Being a Corporation and a Chain, it only takes one command, and all of sudden BORDERS could easily become as sanitized and safe as Barnes and Noble. or Walmart (nope we won't sell that CD or that Book, it might offend someone, why not just sell another celestine prophecy instead? everyone likes bad writing with a pseudo-adventure mysticism plot). or Blockbuster (who once told me when i went in to try to find JEWEL's album when it was first released in 1994, that they had never heard of her, and did not plan on stocking her because there was no demand). I am not saying this will happen, i am saying it COULD happen. once you eliminate the opposition, you're tastes are dictated by what's left. AND i for one would rather frequent an independent that allows me my own choices, then to have my choices made for me by a national headquarters. a bit too brave new world for me. just my thoughts on independents and such. Forum for Contemporary Art 3540 Washington Avenue St. Louis, MO 63103 314/535.4660 314/535.1226 (fax) forum@inlink.com September 5th to October 25th, Dawoud Bey: Portraits 1975 - 1995 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 10:52:13 -0500 (CDT) From: forum@inlink.com (FORUM For Contemporary Art) Subject: beautiful south oh yeah, someone asked about the Beatiful South and where to start. their is a BEST of BEATIFUL SOUTH that is available, and if you don't know where to start, that would be most appropriate. If you shun best of CD's i would just start from the very beginning (welcome to the beautiful south) and work your way forward (choke, 0898 Beautiful south, Miaow, Blue is the color) in that order. (the best of came right after Miaow). Blue is the color is rather muzak-ish for my taste. The string arrangements on the first two album (welcome to..., and CHOKE) are a great addition to the music. BLUE's music is rather bland in comparison, and there is one AWFUL song on there, with whatshisface singing in a horrid raspy drunken accent. i fastforward everytime i hear that song. On the other hand there are two brilliant songs sung by Jaqueline (DON'T MARRY HER and ONE GOD). with lyrics like "Don't marry her Fuck me" and "The world won't end in darkness it will end in family fun, with Coca-cola clouds and a Big Mac sun" the lyrics quite worth the cost of the CD alone. irvin Forum for Contemporary Art 3540 Washington Avenue St. Louis, MO 63103 314/535.4660 314/535.1226 (fax) forum@inlink.com September 5th to October 25th, Dawoud Bey: Portraits 1975 - 1995 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Oct 1997 09:04:57 -0700 From: Susan Krauss Subject: Re: Border's I have very mixed feelings about Borders. We go there a lot though we also try to go to independent book stores as often as possible. When I was in college in Ann Arbor, Borders was the best independent book store I'd ever seen. I spent hours there. The clerks had to take exams before they were hired - they had to know their area of the store down flat. After I graduated, Border's was sold and is now a big corporate entity (as I type this, I hear an NPR announcement that Borders' is supporting "Fresh Air"). I find Borders less sterile then Barnes & Noble and other chain stores. Sometimes, the independents just don't have what I'm looking for and then we'll go to Borders. We also hang out there because there's one near our favorite movie theater. I don't do Home Depot and they're trying to organize a KMART boycott in Oakland because the new store is not doing well by its workers. At one point, KMART owned Borders. I haven't followed the corporate structure recently but that may influence my decision about going there again. susan n.p. LBJ tapes on Fresh Air Susan Krauss Krauss Research mailto:skrauss@hooked.net http://www.wenet.net/~skrauss ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 11:26:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Richard Holmes Subject: Re: Scheherazade "Rich R. - GEG Society" writes: > Kerry said: > > Hi, I finally found a cd of Renaissance: Scheherazade and Other > > Stories. It was an import but was only $19. > > Check the CD it'self, it might be the misprint > "Scheherazade and SHORT Stories" Rich, What is "the misprint 'Scheherazade and SHORT Stories'" and how does it differ from "Renaissance: Scheherazade and Other Stories"? Sounds like something I should be aware of when re-purchasing my Renaissance LPs on CD format! Thanks, - -Richard. NP: 10000 Maniacs, the wishing chair NR: cs242 course reader ;-(yuck) @ \@/ Richard A. Holmes (rholmes@cs.stanford.edu) @ | @ \|/ "There's a place representative @ | of the land where my creatures live @ , , | , , It embodies my will to be. @ ' ' ' ' This has nothing to do with destiny. @ I carry skills and schemes from the stars above to guide me. @ - Happy Rhodes, "Phobos" from Warpaint album @ @ Kiva / Kate Price \ Dar Williams / Renaissance \ Sheila Chandra / Laura Love @ Susan McKeown \ Sarah McLachlan / Libana \ Danielle Dax \ Dog Faced Hermans @ Loreena McKennitt / Kate Bush \ Tori Amos / Katell Keineg / Happy Rhodes @ Ingrid Karklins \ Sinead O'Connor / Jane Siberry / Pauline Oliveros ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 11:25:04 -0700 (PDT) From: "J. Wermont" Subject: indie stores vs chains I avoid chain bookstores and generally shop at independents. And I absolutely refuse to shop at Wal-Mart, ever since I heard that they tried to fire two employees who were having an affair (one was married). They weren't doing anything inappropriate on the job, they were just carrying on an affair in their off-hours. And the store decided this was their business, that these employees were flouting the "family values" that Wal-Mart wanted to stand for, so they fired them. I believe the two employees sued for wrongful termination and won, but still - I won't go near Wal-Mart. (And that doesn't even begin to go into all the other reasons I hate them!) I'm just saying this to establish where I'm generally coming from, on the issue of chains vs. indies. I do have strong feelings about it in general. However, when it comes to CD's, my first choice for shopping is Tower. I will buy CD's at local indie shops if I already know what the music sounds like and I'm sure I want it. But Tower offers something that no other music store does: you can return a CD within 2 weeks for any reason (no questions asked) and get full credit. Other places *may* take your CD's back, but usually on the basis of "buying back" the CD, rather than as a return, and they offer less store-credit value on the buy-back than what you paid for it. Of all the places I've shopped in my area, only Tower gives you a credit in the full amount that you paid. This is important to me, because often it's the only way to hear a CD for the first time. Local radio stations don't play the music I love (for the most part - a minority of the musical discoveries I make come from radio play). Mostly I hear about new music from reading - on the net (this list, for instance), or various music publications such as Performing Songwriter. I read about something that *sounds* like it might be interesting, but I don't get to check it out till I buy it. Many stores do have listening stations, but there's no guarantee that the particular CD I want to check out will be available for listening. So my only option is to take the risk and buy it. Unfortunately, often times, the music disappoints me - it's not what I'd hoped for. If I couldn't then return the CD, I'd be stuck with all kinds of junk I didn't want. Or, I could take them to the local used CD place, and lose 25 - 30% of what I paid (*if* they're willing to take it). At Tower, I have bought and returned dozens and dozens of CD's without losing a penny. I hope someone will respond to this topic - I would like to find a better system system for discovering new music, but haven't. So as long as Tower continues to offer the same return policy, and as long as no one else does, that's where I will continue to shop. Joyce ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 14:48:12 -0400 (EDT) From: Quickling@aol.com Subject: Angel........ Hello Ectophiles, I Was Simply Wondering If Any Of You Have Heard Of Or Met A Woman By The Name Of Angel Weaver.. Well It Would Now Be Marshall Since She Left Mike.. Unles She Married Steve... In Which Case It Would Be Hernendez... Anyway.. I Was Just Wondering... - Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 11:32:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Richard Holmes Subject: Re: Borders, Amazon.com, etc.(want more?) Philip David Morgan writes: > The big crux is that Barnes & Noble wants a piece of Amazon.com's > cyberaction... a _huge_ piece, in fact. B&N is hardly a store I would > buy from on a regular basis... > they are rarely kind to Diane Wolkstein whenever she has a > new book out (their computer did not include the new one, > _Bouki Dances the Kokioko_), and they hardly > attract quality musical talent to play in-store concerts. Are they just trying to compete in the electronic market, or are they pulling some squeeze tactic in some other way? I'd be very curious - perhaps there's a web page or something someone could point me to on this issue if this isn't of general interest. Thanks, Richard. @ \@/ Richard A. Holmes (rholmes@cs.stanford.edu) @ | @ \|/ "In the name of Annah the Allmaziful, the @ | Everliving, the Bringer of Plurabilities, haloed @ , , | , , be her eve, her singtime sung, her rill be run, @ ' ' ' ' ' unhemmed as it is uneven!" @ - J. J. @ @ Kiva / Kate Price \ Dar Williams / Renaissance \ Sheila Chandra / Laura Love @ Susan McKeown \ Sarah McLachlan / Libana \ Danielle Dax \ Dog Faced Hermans @ Loreena McKennitt / Kate Bush \ Tori Amos / Katell Keineg / Happy Rhodes @ Ingrid Karklins \ Sinead O'Connor / Jane Siberry / Pauline Oliveros ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 12:41:36 -0700 (PDT) From: "J. Wermont" Subject: Looking for... I am trying to reach two people who are members of this list. I'm sorry for the bandwidth-use, but I can't seem to get thru via private mail: 1. Scott Zimmerman (scottz@best.com) - are you there? Could you write to me if you are? I have a tape for you. 2. Winter (enzo1@idt.net) - please write to me if you see this. Back to regular programming... Joyce ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Oct 1997 19:54:21 -0400 From: dee zed stroke zero one five Subject: Re: Loreena McKennitt's _The Book of Secrets_ also sprach Michael Curry: >In large part it's a continuation of what she was doing on _The Mask and >Mirror_, so if you love that cd (like I do) you'll love the new one as >well. ...and this may be my only quibble with _the book of secrets_. "que?" you say? allow me to explain. with celtic trad music, the biggest differentiation between "good" and "bad" is chops -- how well you play. for the most part, the material is all there, and even self-written songs tend to be pretty samey in sound and style. so, how well you play or sing is the primary measure. fortunately, loreena's gifted in both the voice and harp departments. her first handful of albums were good, but pretty much the same kind of stuff...which gets tedious after a while (this is getting into personal preference now: my biggest issue with celtic trad -- which i love -- is that it's really difficult for me to *listen* to it since it, all too often, sounds the same). fortunately, again, she started drawing on other musical traditions to infuse a new sound into her music on the past couple records. _the visit_ was the start of it and she really reached out on _the mask and mirror_. i found this mish-mash of styles utterly fascinating and, on the strength of that alone, i really enjoy _the book of secrets_. however, i can't help but wish that she'd taken the record farther away from her roots since it is so stylistically similar to the previous offering. yeah, i know i'm whining and wasting a lot of electrons on a niggling point, but that's what ecto is for so thpth! ;) woj n.p. the wonderful world of... -- the pursuit of happiness ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Oct 1997 19:43:07 -0400 From: dee zed stroke zero one five Subject: Re: guy evans and peter hammill >>n.p. guy evans and peter hammill -- the union chapel concert (yow!) > >How is the Van Der Graff Generator "reunion" CD??? the album is primarily a evans/hammill collaboration, but the other vdgg folks pop up on various tracks and then they all get together for a stunning performance of "lemmings" to close the set. it's really a stupendous record of a very special night: "lemmings" sounds like they never broke up and had been playing together every night for the 25+ years since that song was first recorded. the evans/hammill material is also as good: most of it is either new or more instrumental and rhythmic renderings of solo hammill material. only caveat: it's a *long* two disc set, so be prepared to spend some time with it. woj n.p. robyn hitchcock -- respect ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 15:58:24 -0400 (EDT) From: "jeffrey c. burka" Subject: Re: Angel........ On Wed, 8 Oct 1997 Quickling@aol.com wrote: > I Was Simply Wondering If Any Of You Have Heard > Of Or Met A Woman By The Name Of Angel Weaver..[..] And We Were Simply Wondering Why You Capitalized The First Letter Of Every Word. > Well It Would Now Be Marshall > Since She Left Mike.. Unles She Married Steve... In Which Case It Would Be > Hernendez... Anyway.. I Was Just Wondering... In any event, yes, she and Mike were oft-mentioned back in the early days of ecto. jeff (who would much rather see no capitalization at all than something bizarre) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Oct 1997 23:00:47 -0400 From: Philip David Morgan Subject: Re: Borders, Amazon.com, etc.(want more?) Good Evening, Meredith: > > I think I have the same problem. I've only ever been inside a Borders > > twice, once to see The Nields do an in-store and then to watch Neverwhere a > > couple weeks back, but both times I ended up buying something and had a > > hard time conjuring up the guilt afterwards. :/ I mean, I have no trouble > > at all scorning Barnes & Noble, especially now considering the bullpuckey > > with amazon.com, but Borders... there's just something about it. I'd love > > to figure out what it is too, so perhaps I can come up with an antidote. :) ...and Richard: > Although another "Richard" wrote the bit you're responding to here, > I myself was wondering what the bit about amazon.com was. I've heard > vague references to their being just another "Barnes & Noble on the net - > so do tell. I've ordered from amazon and would like to know what's up. The big crux is that Barnes & Noble wants a piece of Amazon.com's cyberaction... a _huge_ piece, in fact. B&N is hardly a store I would buy from on a regular basis... they are rarely kind to Diane Wolkstein whenever she has a new book out (their computer did not include the new one, _Bouki Dances the Kokioko_), and they hardly attract quality musical talent to play in-store concerts. (The last time they did in our area, it was singer/songwriter Wendy Sayvetz, best known for her singing in Grand Central Station. But then, Wendy _is_ really good at what she does.) > WRT Borders, the same sort of deal. But no matter how you cut it, > if you make money, you spend money, you contribute to *shit*. We can > go beg rice, become a Jainist, and starve ourselves for fear of eating > tiny bugs, but that's not for me - we can only do our best with limited > knowledge and imperfect choices... which is worse: buying a CD at Borders, > mailing off to some low-overhead mega-volume undercutter, or driving > over town to all the mom-and-pops looking for a CD, polluting the air? > (just an example...). I end up playing a few ends against the middle... we have Tower, Borders, HMV (one store in Nassau County), and Virgin (just opened its first Long Island location)... there _are_ good indie record stores out here, but the drive is the real pain. I'm within a half-hour's walking distance of a K-mart plaza with a Borders (full package), but I'd rather rely on them only if Columbia House, BMG, and Musical Heritage Society don't have what I'm after at a certain moment. Long Island's infrastructure is so automo-screwed up it's pathetic. Many are the times I wish I was living in Manhattan (New York City) instead. Ugh. Just located the _Time Out New York_ from Sept. 18-25, and the interview with cult hero Scott Walker, in which he's asked if he still listens to anything. His reply: "There's too much music...Hunting down something great to buy is difficult." His theory: the final result of the glut of recorded music will be mere silence. My theory: we need fewer chain stores and a few Goddard Liebersons. Philip David (remembering when Sam Goody was the best game in town) 10/7/1997 ______________________________ http://www.li.net/~philipda/dianaw.htm [The Diane Wolkstein Pages] ______________________________ "Computers are like Old Testament gods: lots of rules and no mercy." - - Joseph Campbell. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 18:04:47 -0700 (PDT) From: "J. Wermont" Subject: anyone hear me? Hi, Just wondering if anyone is getting my posts. Joyce ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Oct 1997 20:50:00 -0400 From: dee zed stroke zero one five Subject: glut also sprach Philip David Morgan: >Just located the _Time Out New York_ from Sept. 18-25, and the interview with >cult hero Scott Walker, in which he's asked if he still listens to anything. > >His reply: "There's too much music...Hunting down something great to buy is >difficult." > >His theory: the final result of the glut of recorded music will be mere >silence. pshaw. that's almost as good as "the dog ate my homework." just because there is an enormous amount of stuff to choose from doesn't mean that we shouldn't listen to any of it. recognize that there is a finite subset that one can concievably hear and listen to. accept that there will always be something that you miss. depend on people whose tastes intersect with yours to catch that which falls through your net. woj n.p. mary coughlin -- after the fall (which i would not have bought if it wasn't mentioned in glowing terms on ecto) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Oct 1997 21:16:39 -0400 From: dee zed stroke zero one five Subject: Re: anyone hear me? also sprach J. Wermont: >Just wondering if anyone is getting my posts. just so everyone knows, scarter@ea.com is/was bouncing. unfortunately, their system bounces to both owner-ecto *and* the original poster. so, some of you may receive bounces of your ectoposts. you can safely ignore them (or, if you want to be super-careful, forward them to me). woj ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 23:00:00 -0400 (EDT) From: Neal Copperman Subject: Lisa Cerbone shows Here's a few shows Lisa will be doing outside of MD. If you do see a show, go up and say hi. She's quite friendly, and knows what ecto is. I'd recommend the show with Over the Rhine. I think that's a pretty nice match. I haven't seen them for about 3 years, since they opened for Squeeze. They didn't even do that much for me that night, but I was impressed with the look of their CD, and bought it anyway. Didn't regret it for a moment. Neal np: jazz on WJHU (still marvelling that my radio is working more consistantly than it's worked in years) Sunday, October 12th - Oktoberfest @ Harvard Square/HMV Records Cambridge, MA 2:00 Performance Time Thursday, October 23rd - Top Cats, Cincinnati, OH Saturday, October 25th - Canal St Tavern, Dayton, OH w/ Over the Rhine Sunday, October 26th - Mountain Stage, NPR Radio (tent.) Thursday, October 30th - North Star Bar, Philadelphia, PA Four Songwriters w/ Brian Seymour, Mia Johnson, Richard Julian, and me ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Oct 1997 22:52:47 -0700 From: Damon des Jumeaux Subject: spam and musical atrophy and random bits one jeff said something sensible about the spam avoidance tactics: >I would vote for something simple, since I'd have to maintain it. >I like the idea of a slowly changing password (say hourly or >longer) that is displayed on the initial page of the archives. this made me laugh. it's funny how programming geeks will go for the most complex but most fun solution and overlook something simple like this. i mean, look at my machinations... and peter j.'s javascript solutions (btw peter - i must admit i'm a bit leery of ever using javascript in anything "critical"; i worked at a web design place up until the end of the summer and it's *amazing* how many people you find still using netscape 1.0 or even 0.9 in those access logs...). and all it would really take is a very simple, non-processor-intensive cron job. sheesh. even hourly would be excessive... once a *week* would probably serve our purposes. so, think you'll set this up, jeff? though the password thing is a bit more of a hassle for the end user, i think in the case of something like the archives it would be acceptable; it's not like it's something you're referencing every day. for the guide, though, it would be way too much... - -- and then another jeff commented on the random weird posting: >> I Was Simply Wondering If Any Of You Have Heard >> Of Or Met A Woman By The Name Of Angel Weaver..[..] > >And We Were Simply Wondering Why You Capitalized The First Letter Of Every >Word. Teehee... So Were We. (Er, I That Is) i remember someone who used to slip a random Capital in every third Word or so, but i've never seen Anything Quite Like This Before. Except In Advertisements, I Suppose. >jeff >(who would much rather see no capitalization at all than something >bizarre) well, that would be my department. :) i think i've even influenced someone in the past into a similar style. it still surprises me when i have to type something officially (with caps) and find i *can*! - -- and then this caught my eye: >His theory: the final result of the glut of recorded music will be mere >silence. not really related, but does anyone else ever find they go through periods where they just don't listen to music generally as much as they used to? i think i've been going through such a period for the last year, really; i used to listen to one cd after another, continuously; if there wasn't some music playing i felt lost. now i'll go days, even weeks, without ever listening to anything. i'd noticed that before, but now that i'm finally living with my s.o. it's really grabbed my attention again. she's very often listening to something, and it makes me realise how much i seem to have changed. hearing the same ani albums over and over, for instance, just seems *weird* to me now (note, not *bad*, just weird) because, though i once did the same thing (not with ani but with many others) i just *don't* any longer. one theory i've come up with has to do with my general frugality wrt music over the past couple of years; after some record bouts with EWS way back when, i entered a period of reduced finances and stopped buying more than about one cd a month, and since then things just haven't been the same. :P well, enough of my random ramblings. - -damon damon harper des jumeaux _/\_ "Hey, you sass those hoopy damon@pobox.com __\ /_ jumeaux? There're two froods laur & damon: jumeaux@pobox.com \ / who rully know where their http://pobox.com/~jumeaux/damon/ |/||\| towels are." -- ma jumelle ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Oct 1997 22:46:19 -0400 From: "Jeffrey C. Burka" Subject: Re: Loreena McKennitt's _The Book of Secrets_ Michael Curry wrote: > Add me to the list of those giving a thumbs up to Loreena's new cd. > In large part it's a continuation of what she was doing on _The Mask and > Mirror_, so if you love that cd (like I do) you'll love the new one as > well. and for those of us for whom _Mask and Mirror_ was a big disappointment after the brilliance of _The Visit_? Oh, I suppose I'll buy it anyway...it is, after all, Loreena. But unlike woj, I long for the days of her first 4 albums... jeff (who notes that if Loreena follows the Sarah pattern, she's only two tours away from playing basketball arenas...and if that isn't a sobering thought, I don't know what is) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 23:22:58 -0400 (EDT) From: Neal Copperman Subject: Re: Today's Ecto Releases On Tue, 30 Sep 1997, Tony Goldstein wrote: > n.p. Loreena McKennitt, "The Book of Secrets" (surprised?) > n.r. Jonathan Carroll, "A Child Across The Sky" JC is one of my all time favorite authors, and that is such a wild little book. I'd be curious to know what you think of it, and how you came to it. Neal np: still WJHU jazz show nr: The Lady and the Monk: Four Seasons in Kyoto - Pico Iyer (Only moderately interesting story of an American [of Indian decent] who takes up residence in Japan for a year. ) ------------------------------ End of ecto-digest V3 #35 *************************