From: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org (ecto-digest) To: ecto-digest@smoe.org Subject: ecto-digest V3 #31 Reply-To: ecto@smoe.org Sender: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Sunday, October 5 1997 Volume 03 : Number 031 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Happy news (was "Re: faith and the muse") [Richard Holmes ] Hooverphonic [Heather Russell ] Re: scheherazade [sspan ] Re: Happy news (was "Re: faith and the muse") ["Jeffrey C. Burka" ] Re: Hooverphonic (or when Belgium produces a composer) [Andrew Fries ] Jen Trynin review [Jason and Jill Greshes ] Re: Scheherazade [Philip David Morgan ] Re: Jarboe [Neal Copperman ] Jewel in Belgium [Neal Copperman ] Mary Coughlin in San Mateo, CA, The Sound [Horter3@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 4 Oct 1997 00:32:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Richard Holmes Subject: Happy news (was "Re: faith and the muse") "Jeffrey C. Burka" writes: > obHappy: have a gushed yet today about how much I adore Happy's version > of "Mercy Street"? It might surpass the original... And where might we get a copy of this!?! - -Richard. @ Kiva / Kate Price \ Dar Williams / Renaissance \ Sheila Chandra / Laura Love @ Susan McKeown \ Sarah McLachlan / Libana \ Danielle Dax \ Dog Faced Hermans @ Loreena McKennitt / Kate Bush \ Tori Amos / Katell Keineg / Happy Rhodes @ Ingrid Karklins \ Sinead O'Connor / Jane Siberry / Pauline Oliveros ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Oct 1997 05:36:18 -0400 (EDT) From: Justin Bur Subject: Belgian music my first thought of Belgian music is two record labels: Crammed Discs and Les disques du Crépuscule. Crépuscule is the label of Belgian minimalist composer Wim Mertens, who has produced many albums over the past 15-20 years, including Maximizing the Audience (which I find very beautiful and moving) and the soundtrack for Peter Greenaway's film The Belly of an Architect. The two labels are probably best known, however, for the non-Belgian artists they produced: Anna Domino, Bel Canto, Tuxedomoon, Hector Zazou, just to name the first ones that come to mind. See http://home.pi.net/~frankbri/crepuscule.html for the whole convoluted story of Les disques du Crépuscule. Zap Mama (Belgian!) are probably the best known of Crammed's many world-beat artists. The third Belgian label that comes to mind is Play it Again Sam, which has released Legendary Pink Dots, Trisomie 21, and Magnapop. Belgium is bilingual, French and Flemish (Dutch) - leaving out the small German-speaking minority. Consequently, there are quite a few Belgian performers who are known mostly in other countries with the same languages. Sttellla, Maurane, and Jean-Louis Daulne were in Montreal this summer, Axelle Red the previous year. Vaya con Dios don't sing in French but they're distributed in French-speaking markets. Arno is Flemish but sings in both languages; he too was in Montreal this summer. (I don't know any of these performers enough to comment on them.) There's also Toots Thielemans, the jazz harmonicist, and Adolphe Sax, the inventor of the saxophone... Hooverphonic note: the song Barabas is a reference to a comic-strip character (Professor Barabas) whose primary invention is a time-machine. He appears in the series Suske en Wiske (Bob et Bobette / Willy and Wanda) which is excessively popular in Belgium. I'm not Belgian, I just go there a lot. justin ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 04 Oct 1997 08:28:23 -0400 From: Heather Russell Subject: Hooverphonic >I was having dinner at some friends' house the other day, and noticed >the >Hooverphonic disc laying around. WE popped it in, and I found it to > be very nice dinner music. Funny you should mention that, because I'm going to see Fiona Apple in Raleigh, NC next week, and noticed Hooverphonic is the opening act. If anyone else has heard them, what are your opinions on their music? Are they worth seeing live? Heather n.p. Innocence Mission, Umbrella - -- |***********************************| | Heather Russell | | http://www.freecloud.com/heather | | hrussell@bellsouth.net | |___________________________________| Official release date for "Just in Time" is Monday Oct.13 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 04 Oct 1997 09:29:50 -0700 From: sspan Subject: Re: scheherazade Kerry said: > Hi, I finally found a cd of Renaissance: Scheherazade and Other > Stories. It was an import but was only $19. Not an easy one to find, is it? I happened across my copy when I went to a Happy Rhodes appearance at a CD store. - -- ++ -dave- ++ + irc.Dal.net #Panic_Beach + + Maria McKee/Grey Eye Glances/Lisa Loeb + ++ ++ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 04 Oct 1997 09:30:55 -0400 From: "Jeffrey C. Burka" Subject: Re: Happy news (was "Re: faith and the muse") Richard Holmes wrote: > > "Jeffrey C. Burka" writes: > > > obHappy: have a gushed yet today about how much I adore Happy's version > > of "Mercy Street"? It might surpass the original... > > And where might we get a copy of this!?! Hmm...you must have missed the various postings (including mine from this past week) regarding the new Project Lo release, _Black Canvas_. Happy does vox on two songs, "Mercy Street" (yes, *that* "Mercy Street") and "Perfection" (written by Project Lo organizer Bon Lozaga). Dunno if it's available in stores; I know that I've seen the earlier Project Lo release listed in Muze. I got my copy of the disc mail order from the Artist Shop (www.artist-shop.com). They have an ssl server or will take fax/phone orders. Cost was $14.99 including shipping. Hey, Kevin, if you read this, any idea why Happy left off the final lines of the song? ("Anne, with her father, is out on the boat / riding the water / riding the waves on the sea"). jeff (who can't *wait* for Happy and Project Lo to come to DC next month!!) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 04 Oct 1997 10:20:25 -0400 From: dee zed stroke zero one five Subject: Re: faith and the muse also sprach Jeffrey C. Burka: >What *are* we going to do with you? If only you were have the sense to >actually *read* ecto.... "if only you were have the sense"? i know they speak funny in the south, but i didn't think it had gone this far! ;) >Our own Craig Gidney (you met him at Happy's Required Listening show a >few years ago) posted a great review of the Projekt Festival in Chicago >back in early July, in which he spoke of their acapella cover of "Sat In >Your Lap." yeah, well. i don't think i was paying much attention to any mailing lists in july -- even ecto! (of course, you'd think that an acapella version of "sat in your lap" would have flabbergasted meredith enough that she would have mentioned it to me.) woj ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 04 Oct 1997 10:51:20 +0000 From: charleydarbo Subject: Re: Belgian music Justin Bur wrote: > > . . . Jean-Louis Daulne . . . Any relation to Marie Daulne, she who is Zap Mama? > > There's also Toots Thielemans, the jazz harmonicist, . . . . . . and jazz guitarist, and (and I'm not making this up) jazz whistler. - --charley n.p. Bjork: Homogenic--on my new stereo, that can beat up your stereo. I can hear what Bjork's thinking on this stereo; I can tell what she had for breakfast. I can hear her hair, and I can tell from the sound it makes exactly how long ago she brushed it, and what brand of shampoo she's using. n.r. James McManus: Going to the Sun ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Oct 1997 03:52:15 +1000 From: Andrew Fries Subject: Re: Hooverphonic (or when Belgium produces a composer) Neal Copperman wrote: >I was having dinner at some friends' house the other day, and noticed the >Hooverphonic disc laying around. WE popped it in, and I found it to be >very nice dinner music. Didn't get a good enough listen to have much to >add to the conversation. However, Kristine is from Belgium, and she said >they had to get it for the obvious reason. I told her about Andrew's >comment of not knowing any Belgian performers, and she got very defensive. >Tons of great people from Belgium, she claimed. When pressed, her list >wasn't so forthcoming though. Well, my apologies to Kristine, anyone else from Belgium or anyone at all surprised by my lack of knowledge of Belgian artists. I claim the distance as mitigating circumstance! The fact remains that Hooverphonic remain the first, (well the second as it turns out) band from that country that I have ever heard... >Then she suggested "Pump Up The Jam" by Technotronic! >You must have heard that one Andrew. So I guess >teh Belgians have produced a strong composer after all :) I didn't realise they were from Belgium. But yes, unfortunately I remember Technotronic and "Pump Up The Jam" very well... who COULD forget it? That chorus, that beat and last but not least, that video clip?!? In fact, if anyone knows just how I could delete that thing from my memory banks I'd greatly appreciate your advice :) And by the way, speaking of trip-hoppy things, I wonder what are your opinions about the new Portishead? I'm not really into this genre as such, but I enjoyed their debut - should I get the second one? Andrew np: Bettie Serveert, "Dust Bunnies" (not quite from Belgium, but just across the border - does that count?) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 04 Oct 1997 13:57:47 -0700 From: Susan Krauss Subject: Re: Birthday thanks > Susan Krauss October 04 Libra Thanks for the birthday greetings! For the record, the year was 1960 so I'm a ripe 37 today. Listening to Lucinda Williams - I'm a happy woman. susan Susan Krauss Krauss Research mailto:skrauss@hooked.net http://www.wenet.net/~skrauss ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 04 Oct 1997 17:50:37 -0400 From: Jason and Jill Greshes Subject: Jen Trynin review Subject: REVIEW: Jen Trynin, _Gun Shy Trigger Happy_ Date: 30 Sep 1997 19:22:45 -0400 From: gajarsky@pilot.njin.net (Consumable) Organization: Freelance writer Newsgroups: rec.music.misc, alt.music.alternative, alt.music.alternative.female REVIEW: Jen Trynin, _Gun Shy Trigger Happy_ (Warner) - Al Muzer Well on her way to an Aimee Mann-like cult following - former New Jersey (exit 135 on the Garden State Parkway) resident Jennifer Trynin took nearly three years to drop half her first name and unleash the follow-up to _Cockamamie_ , her critically-acclaimed, 1994 debut. A deeply personal break up diary set to music, the 13-song _Gun Shy Trigger Happy_ utilizes feel, finesse, pop-smart songwriting, reserved instrumentation and a warm, smoky voice thick with waste and wistful sadness to convey Trynin's thoughtful, insightful, occasionally painful tales of insecurity, betrayal, weakness, disgust, second thought, lost love and heartbreak. Despite the unwavering lyrical focus of her sophomore effort, Trynin sweetens her heartache and makes it accessible with musical touches that range from a bit of Mazzy-moodiness mixed with Cowboy Junkies vulnerability on "Everything" ; to a lush, melancholy, Fleetwood Mac-ish harmony groove that effortlessly propels "Getaway (February)" ; to the loud blast of alterna-pop crunch and "yeah, yeah, yeah," big-hook chorus that makes "Go Ahead" such a perfect choice as the first single. Other (but not limited to) highlights of one of this year's best albums include: the "Shaft"-ish guitar intro, hip hop-stomp beat and irresistible pop hook that powers "Bore Me"; the chunky T-Rex-ish riff and punky vocal snarl of "If I"; a gentle, Joni Mitchell jazzed-funk confessional called "Writing Notes"; the crotch-rock riff, Dwight Twilley break and galloping rhythm punch of "Love Letter"; and the sinuous groove and bluesy starkness of "I Don't Need You." - --- This review first appeared in Consumable Online, the oldest continuous collaborative music reviews publication on the Internet. Each issue consists of reviews, interviews, tour dates and more music information. Direct e-mail subscriptions are available from consumable-request@westnet.com or our World Wide Web site at http://www.westnet.com/consumable ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 04 Oct 1997 20:00:07 -0400 From: Philip David Morgan Subject: Re: Scheherazade Good Evening, Kerry: > ...I finally found a cd of Renaissance: Scheherazade and Other > Stories. It was an import but was only $19. and Dave: > Not an easy one to find, is it? I happened across my copy when I went > to a Happy Rhodes appearance at a CD store. Mine turned up by chance at a Borders... it didn't take long for me to pounce on it...but then, I happen to like Annie Haslam a lot. And she is still in business, which is good news. (I heard her twice last year; the second time was in a Tinicum, PA. church around Xmas time. Great atmosphere, good sound, and a Xmas singalong to boot.) I've long regarded _Scheherazade and Other Stories_ as one of my all-time favorite albums and the best of the famed Renaissance oeuvre. Everything clicks on this one the most - the orchestration, the writing, the playing and singing. The title work won't leave me. The Reperatoire CD remastering really outshines my U.S. Sire pressing, which I played a lot when I first got it (I was in college at that time). I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks highly of this album. Philip David 10/4/1997 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Oct 1997 01:03:10 -0400 (EDT) From: Neal Copperman Subject: Re: Jarboe On Sat, 20 Sep 1997, dee zed stroke zero one five wrote: > swince the demise of swans, jarboe has released three records: _beatiful > people, ltd._ (which i have and like, but can't find), _thirrteen masks_ > and, most recently, _sacrifical cake_. Just to nitpick a bit.... the swans farewell tour and double album was last year. Thirteen Masks came ou tin 91, beautiful people ltd in 92, and sacrifricial cake in 95, all prior to the breakup of the swans. I was a modest swans fan, particularly near the end of their career. I loved 13 Masks though. What appealed to me was the completely wild, all over the map nature of the album. I bought SC and BPL at the swans show at the 9:30 Club in 95, and was somewhat disappointed with SC. It was more of a tone (the somber, majestic swans tone), but loved BPL, which had the freewhelling lunacy of 13 Masks. Depending what you like about 13 Masks would probably help define what you should get. swans-wise, the burning world has the most beautiful Jarboe song I know on it. A brilliant cover of Traffic's Can't Find My Way Back Home (and a nice Maplethorpe cover too). One day I'll have to get that on CD. Sacrificial Cake, and the Michael Gira disc that came out at the same time, are billed as Swans Related Projects across the top of the discs. Neal (slowly catching up...) np: sampler tape... Susan Mckeown at the moment ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Oct 1997 01:17:08 -0400 (EDT) From: Neal Copperman Subject: Jewel in Belgium Just to drive that topic into the ground, here is Jewel's latest tour schedule, and some odd future album projects. 11/18/97 RELEASE-"Late Show CD" track included: YWMFM (w/Flea on bass from Letterman show 9/2/96) 12/??/97 RELEASE-Creedence Clearwater Revival Tribute CD track included: Who'll Stop The Rain (probably) 97/12/?? RELEASE-Fleetwood Mac Tribute CD track included: You Make Lovin Fun 03/??/98 RELEASE-Lilith Fair Live 97 2-CD set track listing to be announced 03/??/98 RELEASE-Steve Poltz Solo CD on Mercury Records They recorded: Impalla, I Thought I Saw You Last Night & Silver Lining together. Steve also recorded "My Body Is Changing" solo. Final track selection has not yet been determined. Jewel tour schedule: 97/10/06 Umeada Heatbeat,Osaka, Japan 97/10/07 Harajuku Laforet Museum,Tokyo, Japan 97/10/15 Irish Cultural Centre, Birmingham,UK 97/10/16 University Debating Hall, Manchester, UK 97/10/17 Mitchell Theatre, Glasgow, Scotland, UK 97/10/19 Bloomsbury Theatre, London, UK 97/10/20 Bataaclan, Paris, France 97/10/21 Lille Vega, Copenhagen,Denmark 97/10/22 Rockefeller, Oslo, Norway 97/10/24 Grunewallsalen, Stockholm,Sweden 97/10/26 Muffathalle, Munich, Germany 97/10/27 Villa Berg,SDR TV Headquarters, Stuttgart,Germany 97/10/28 Mozartsaal,Frankfurt,Germany 97/10/30 Kleine Musik Halle,Hamburg,Germany 97/10/31 TV Show,Hamburg,Germany 97/11/04 Zelig, Milan,Italy 97/11/06 Bikini, Barcellona, Italy 97/11/07 Sala Caracol, Madrid Italy 97/11/09 The Paradiso,Amsterdam,Netherlands 97/11/10 Vooruit Ballroom, Ghent, Belgium 97/11/11 Olympia Theater,Dublin,Ireland 97/11/12 Lottery Show (TV), London,UK 97/11/14 Shepherd's Bush Empire, London,UK 97/12/?? Lilith Fair 98 Preview Gig,venue TBA, West Palm Beach, FL ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Oct 1997 02:41:00 -0400 (EDT) From: Horter3@aol.com Subject: Mary Coughlin in San Mateo, CA, The Sound I had never seen a show at a Border's but I was pleasantly surprised. Aside from competing with the cash register, as she noted herself, it was a really great, though shortish, set. I had never heard her before, but based on that ranting letter from charley, I forced myself to get in the car, drive the 5 minutes, and venture into the Brand Spankin' New Border's. Coolness. I didn;t wander up and talk to her after (or before) the show, as I am WAY too shy for that. I thought her piano/keyboard player was superb. Thanks for the recommendation! It made a relatively uninteresting evening, well, interesting. :-) Now...on this Belgium/Play It Again Sam thing....Front 242 are definitely from Belgium. How nice to see they still exist. Has anyone here EVER hear of a band called The Sound? They were a British band from the 80's that I absolutely fell in love with. Fronted by Adrian Borland, who later went on to some solo work as well as producing Dole on Nettwerk (boy, do I know too much :-), they blew me away. I was just wondering if Uncle Ecto knew anything more recent. Last I found was an album from Adrian Borland and the Citizens. Thanks. Now back to your regularly scheduled semi-logical progression, Tom ------------------------------ End of ecto-digest V3 #31 *************************