From: owner-ecto-digest To: ecto-digest@ns2.rutgers.edu Subject: ecto-digest V2 #355 Reply-To: ecto@nsmx.rutgers.edu Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Monday, 22 January 1996 Volume 02 : Number 355 The Ecto digest is now being generated automatically. Please send problems and questions to: ecto-owner@nsmx.rutgers.edu. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: athol-brose Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 07:55:10 -0500 (EST) Subject: Amazing Discovery I finally found the reason I was compelled to purchase a television with closed caption decoding. Just before "Caught a Lite Sneeze" started last night on MTV, on a whim, I turned on decoding -- and was shown the lyrics, some of which I had been wondering about (and some of which I'm still wondering about -- the girl zone?). Interesting video, too. Have to see it a few more times before really commenting on the imagery. - -- r. n. dominick -- cinnamon@one.net -- http://w3.one.net/~cinnamon/ i breathe too much anyway; i can do that any day... (ani difranco) ------------------------------ From: gzverev@RPC.glas.apc.org (Russian Privatization Center) Date: Mon, 22 Jan 96 16:30:12 Subject: Re: ectopics Who has an ansa - > does anyone recall the date that holly cole was on the world cafe? it Is it (CD) printed elsewhere exept Canada? > monsoon's only record) from footah some years ago. monsoon was sort of > the spearhead of the "indi-pop" thing that was fairly popular in > britain a while back ("pump up the bhangra!"), melding western pop Ayone has an info where West India Co. disappeared? (ex-Blancmange Steven Luscombe with his lovely indian girl(s)) > third is ivy's "lately" ep. i'm guessing this predates their album from Is the Ivy's CD (with bicycle on the cover) is worth buying? What happened to Operation Ivy from New York? Gleb ------------------------------ From: gzverev@RPC.glas.apc.org (Russian Privatization Center) Date: Mon, 22 Jan 96 18:12:22 Subject: I had a dream.... Dreamers, I had one the other night which I forgot to tell you. You will laugh at me, but anyway... There was a huge CD store in my dream where each music section was separated - each section for each music like you see in museums. ECTO section was a central hall with neon-surrounding entrance like this _________________ / S~~~~~~~~~~~~~S \ | S E*C*T*O S | | S_____________S | | S| |S | | S| |S | Then there was many listening cells with installed PCs with Internet (to check out rewiews, etc. while listening and check out CD-ROMs) CDs were sectioned by one of five style descriptions - that means if an artist have descriptions like "pop", "Jazz", "Dance", etc., it could be found in any related room. Heavy metal room entrance was separated from others and made from back-yard with parking place for bikers. Room was equipped with bulletproof windows and every CD was boiled into a heavy metal case... Easy-listeneing section surrounded a swimming pool under the roof and helicopter runaway was built..... okay, okay, I see your smile Gleb ------------------------------ From: "Matt Bittner" Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 09:26:00 -0600 Subject: Various Replys to ecto-digest V2 #352 VNozick@tribune.com thus spoketh: > You know, I'm getting pretty sick of this winter. Here I am in > Chicago, land of snow legend, staring out the window at a sea of > unburied city. Not a speck of snow is on the ground. Meanwhile, > out yonder (henceforth defined as NOT Chicago), people are > complaining about bizarre winters filled with snow and, well, > _real_ winter weather. Even _Atlanta_ has had more snow on the > ground than Chicago at times. Now, suddenly, in a change of > direction worthy of a politician, native Chicagoans are saying > that Chicago really doesn't get a lot of snow after all, and that > people, other native Chicagoans, lied to me 9 months ago about the > local winters. The same holds true for us. We're supposed to get more snow, but haven't. Maybe some day. > So, I again ask myself, when will the real snow appear? It'll be there. Some day. Sue Trowbridge thunk: > - --Sue Trowbridge, actually looking forward to watching Saturday > Night Live for the first time in years Ah, but was it worth it? The only things I definitely watched were Tori, and the news. You can usually count on the news being funny. "She's a home body, and he's a homosexual pedophile." ROTFL!! Laurel Krahn muttered: > Ahem. Just two nights ago, parts of South Dakota had actual > temperatures (not to be confused with windchills) in the -30 to -40 > degrees fahrenheit range. Really. Yea, when I first posted the weather forecast, I forgot that the Dakota's would be da-col-duh...I've got to stop being so funny! ;-o > Ohyeah. I got the job. Will be a Technical Writer and jack of > all trades for Gateway 2000's Internet Group/Web team. Yes, their > web pages (http://www.gw2k.com/) are chock full of cows. ;-p > Means a move down to the Sioux City area... if anyone has any > advice on housing down there (preferably on the South Dakota side > of the border) or on Things to Do, let me know. I'll be closer > to Omaha, too (so hey Matt, let me know if any Cool Shows occur > down there). Cool. Someone within a resonable distance. FWIW, the company I work for only buys Gateways, so you'll have a job, for a while. ;-) As far as concerts, Jewel IS coming. 14 February, Valentine's day. Poe will be in town as well, 20 February. Other than that, it's the usual shlock. E-mail me if you want "updates". Michael Curry snl'ed: > Aaaagh! How I am supposed to wait til Tuesday for the new album?! Shouldn't that line be in reference to Aimee Mann?... On that note, Matt - -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Matthew Bittner WW1 Modeler, ecto subscriber, semi-new dad, meba@cso.com PowerBuilder developer; Omaha, Nebraska Disclaimer: opinions expressed by me are my responsibility only. "You cannot make anything foolproof, because the fools are so ingenious." - Christian Walters - -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ ------------------------------ From: spanglemaker Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 10:37:14 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: other females I never seen mentioned oops--i managed to reply to these comments ass backwards, and now am too lazy to retype them. forgive me. chandra what happened to shelleyan orphan/caroline crawley, anyway? On Sun, 21 Jan 1996 ariana@nycmetro.com wrote: > There are a few female artists that I never heard discussed on here. I > use to listen to a group called Shellyan Orphan. I have 2 of their > albums. Some people have compared the lead singer's voice to the lead > singer of the Sunday's voice. They once toured with the Cure several > years ago now. bel canto is great--they have 3 albums--birds of passage, white out condition[s] [inexplicable title inconsistency on the cd] and shimmering warm and bright. the new album is due out soon. if you are curious, they have a track on [i think] the 3d heavenly voices cd, and in the nettwerk boxed set. also one track on the winter fire and snow compilation > Recently on the Ecto irc channel someone mentioned Bel Canto. I > mentioned a > song that I thought was Bel Canto. Now I can't even find the song I > have with Bel Canto on it. But what I confused Bel CAnto with was > someone or some group called "Beautiful Pea Green Boat". I had the > song called "the vase". I really liked the song but never saw anything > of their's arround. > > > ------------------------------ From: "Matt Bittner" Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 09:49:47 -0600 Subject: Re: As promised... On 21 Jan 96 at 21:38, MATH TRIED ERR typed diligently: > Probably not. I don't think she's ever met the man, and the > impression I get is that neither he nor she are particularly > interested in getting to know each other. (I think she was > basically the product of a one-night stand.) Actually, if memory serves, the interview I typed in ages ago alluded to the fact that they *had* met. However, I could be entirely wrong, and my memory once again is playing tricks on me. > >I went and re-subscribed to fte and rdt, and then realized why I > >unsubed in the first place. Banter, banter, banter. Jeez, when will > >people learn... Oops, practice and preaching, I think I'll go now. > > Yeah! Take it to ecto. ;> Hey, I resemble that remark! Matt - -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Matthew Bittner WW1 Modeler, ecto subscriber, semi-new dad, meba@cso.com PowerBuilder developer; Omaha, Nebraska Disclaimer: opinions expressed by me are my responsibility only. "You cannot make anything foolproof, because the fools are so ingenious." - Christian Walters - -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ ------------------------------ From: "jeffrey hanson" Date: Mon, 22 Jan 96 09:28:16 cdt Subject: Innocence Mission/16 Horsepower Went to see Innocence Mission and 16 Horsepower at the Fine Line in Minneapolis last night. Both bands were really good--though the bands sure contrasted one another in style. While Neile said something about 16 Horsepower being "New Order goes country", I found his voice to be more reminescent of The Waterboys, but stylistically the New Order reference is appropriate--or maybe even Joy Division. Their lyrics are definitely dark. Their new album Sackcloth n' Ashes is to be released February 6th. Apparently they are from Denver. Innocence Mission were great. The sound was really good--though they did seem to be having trouble with the monitors. They did a number of interesting covers--two of which Jane Siberry performed on her last tour. I kept waiting for them to come out and do The Girl from Ipanema but they didn't. What was really surprising to me though was that the Fine Line was packed--much more so than when Jane Siberry played there. I find it really hard to believe that IM can attract a bigger crowd than Jane, but I guess that's the way it is. Jeff Hanson ------------------------------ From: "jeffrey hanson" Date: Mon, 22 Jan 96 09:44:02 cdt Subject: Re: As promised... >>Last night I heard a song I hadn't heard in ages. It's a song called >>"Candy", a duet. One half of the duet is Iggy Pop. The other half is a >>woman with a very ecto-ish kind of voice. >Everyone has said that this was a duet with Kate Pierson of the B-52's, >but I can't shake the feeling that this is really a duet with Debbie >Harry. I know they both did a song together -- if it wasn't that, then >what was it called? Debby and Iggy did a cover of Cole Porter's "Well Did You Evuh?" for the Red, Hot and Blue album. Jeff Hanson ------------------------------ From: rzeisern@colybrand.com (Rob Zeiser -- HRA - Dallas ) Date: Mon, 22 Jan 96 12:47:42 EST Subject: Iggy Pop/Debby Harry To: ECTO, Digest >>Last night I heard a song I hadn't heard in ages. It's a song >>called "Candy", a duet. One half of the duet is Iggy Pop. The >> other half is a woman with a very ecto-ish kind of voice. >Everyone has said that this was a duet with Kate Pierson of the > B-52's, but I can't shake the feeling that this is really a duet > with Debbie Harry. I know they both did a song together -- if it > wasn't that, then what was it called? You're thinking of their take on Cole Porter's "Did you Eva?" from "Red, Hot and Blue". Valerie lamented: >ARGH! I completely missed the SNL appearance, dope that I am. Worse >yet, I was home in time to watch it, and caught the last 10 minutes >of Mad TV instead. Too much wine on the brain. Hey, I can top that...When I set the VCR to record SNL, I programmed it for Fox instead of NBC, so I had all of MAD TV and no Tori (in Dallas, Fox is channel 4 and NBC is channel 5, but the reverse is true in NY. I've only been in Dallas for five years...). Anyway, can anyone offer me a hopeful anecdote where they were in a relationship with a guy who went through monthly cycles of affection and neglect (yes, I know, it's classic fear of commitment syndrome). I'm planning on dumping him if he won't get help. Is it curable? ------------------------------ From: neilg@sfu.ca (Neil K.) Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 10:06:10 -0700 Subject: Re: weather oneupsmanship At 11:15 AM on 1/19/96, VNozick@tribune.com wrote: >So, I again ask myself, when will the real snow appear? Heh. Well, oddly enough, we're getting snow up here in Vancouver. Right now and lots of it. Unusual for this city - normally it just snows once a year and causes havoc with the legions of incompetent Vancouver drivers and then melts the next day. It snowed extremely heavily on Saturday, and this morning it's looking very pretty and Christmassy again - heavy snow coming down... :) Quite a pleasant change; I miss snow. Down near my parents' place (they live close to the US border; an hour or so drive away) it's looking positively alpine - white snow hanging heavy on the dark trees. So if *we're* getting snow here, Valerie, I'm sure you must get some this year! :) BTW - on a completely unrelated note - on Saturday I saw the French film La Cite des Enfants Perdus (the City of Lost Children). Really recommend it. (unless you're boycotting French products because of their government's desire to irradiate the South Pacific...) Unbelievable visuals! The same two wacky guys who made Delicatessen have now made the most complicated special-effects film in French history. Tons of digital effects that look so natural and normal you won't believe they were done on a computer - it's so seamless and realistic. The film itself a very dark, disturbing and compelling fantasy that would undoubtedly appeal to Gilliam fans, though without a Gilliamesque paranoia. The narrative isn't the most important aspect of the film, though it's about this big childlike gentle giant of a man (Ron Perlman of the US teevee show Beauty and the Beast, speaking broken French) on a mission to rescue his young kidnapped brother in a mad fantasy industrial world of rusting iron and polluted green seas, populated with a bizarre cast of circus freaks. Although the story is about children (amazing acting from the kids - very European; adult and precocious yet not sickeningly cute) and a thief of dreams, it's really too scary and disturbing for small kids. Especially if you still want to believe in Santa Claus. It's actually rated R in the States, I noticed. Probably because of the unstated (yet non-exploitative IMO) undercurrent of sexuality in some of the kids that would make a lot of non-European audiences squeamish. Up here it's rated 14 years. Soundtrack is by Angelo Badalamenti and Marianne Faithfull does the song over the closing credits. Anyway - end of plug. :) - Neil K. - -- Neil K. Guy * neilg@sfu.ca * tela@tela.bc.ca 49N 16' 123W 7' * Vancouver, BC, Canada ------------------------------ From: pearceja@mailgw.wl.wpafb.af.mil Date: Mon, 22 Jan 96 13:27:40 -0500 Subject: Lisa Gerrard on Echoes I N T E R O F F I C E M E M O R A N D U M Date: 22-Jan-1996 01:16pm EST From: Jeffrey A. Pearce (Contractor) PEARCEJA Dept: POPR (UTC) Tel No: 54171 TO: Remote MILNET Mail ( _DDN[ecto@ns2.rutgers.edu] ) Subject: Lisa Gerrard on Echoes Hello, Knowing that there are many Dead Can Dance/Lisa Gerrard fans here, I thought you might be interested in the following. She is to be featured on the radio program Echoes tomorrow, 23 Jan 96. Here's the blurb from the Echoes playlist: > A Performance by Lisa Gerrard > >We have a magical and spiritual performance from Lisa Gerrard. She's the >entrancing singer from Dead Can Dance and we caught her in the middle of >her U.S. tour last fall in Philadelphia. Lisa sings in a wordless vocal >style that draws from Middle Eastern, Bulgarian and choral traditions, and >weaves them into haunting compositions full of vibrant global rhythms and >modern textures. We'll hear her perform works from her solo album, "The >Mirror Pool" as well as several new, unrecorded compositions. I'll try to tape it if anyone's interested. Jeff pearceja@wl.wpafb.af.mil ------------------------------ From: VNozick@tribune.com Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 14:18:12 -0600 Subject: Re: As promised... meth blurted out: >ariane revealed: >>But I >>am a cheap person. I generally buy cassettes. I only buy cds if they >>are Tori Amos or Happy Rhodes, or used, or bargain price. With >>cassettes if it's not Happy Rhodes and it's more then $7.99 I just >>won't buy it. >I don't think Happy has released anything on cassette since _Warpaint_, or am >I just being ingnorant again? Yup, you're just being ignorant. :) As far as I know, Happy has released all of them on cassette, although they are a _lot_ harder to locate. I picked up a copy of BtC on cassette, just for working out. Of course, my CD version still gets a lot more play, but it's nice to know where Happy planned the side breaks. >Funny, that. I *love* _Friends_, though I do feel the show is getting mired >in its own popularity and is rapidly losing its freshness as a result. Still, >it's still guaranteed to produce at least four or five belly laughs per episode >for me. Phoebe is brilliant. This is the funniest show on television right now, although I'll agree with you, Meredith, that the show is suffering from its popularity. It seems like all they can do is debate who stole the bloody diet coke and stupid inanities like that. I miss last season, when all of the characters were real and got equal time. Now it seems like Chandler and Joey are just caricatures, and you can't see an original episode two weeks in a row because they're saving it all up for highly- hyped Super Bowl appearances. >I made a conscious effort to get into _ER_, and failed miserably. I just >couldn't make myself give a damn about any of the characters. (It's not >the genre -- I was a devoted fan of _St. Elsewhere_ for years.) _Chicago >Hope_ didn't catch my fancy, either. Now I'm really concerned -- that's two TV-thoughts we share. Call in the medics! >It will be interesting to see how the sales figures (for BfP) go, though -- >I'll bet all of her current fans will run out and buy _Boys For Pele_ within a >few days of its release, debuting way up on the charts. I hope she gains >enough new fans to keep sales up for a while, but not so many that I can't get >tickets to see every show she performs within reasonable driving distance of >New Jersey. :> Actually, I'm surprised at how little publicity BfP has generated -- sure, she did a pre-release appearance on SNL (not exactly the most popular program on TV anymore), but other than that, I haven't seen much hype. I wouldn't be surprised if there weren't a lot of tori fans who don't know that tomorrow is the new release. I also think that there are a lot of fans out there who aren't big, huge tori fans, but instead like what they've heard so far, ho hum. They're the ones who will keep this album in the top 20 for awhile. Still, I agree, BfP should have a good first week, since Tori has an amazing number of superdevotees. >Is Tower going to be selling it at midnight Monday? Yup, at least the one in Chicago's Lincoln Park will be. I haven't decided if I'm going to be there at midnight, or wait until before work tomorrow. Depends on how much sleep I need. (*yawn*) Meredith said to me (about missing SNL and not knowing about 120 minutes): >You're dense. ;) Those be fightin' words. Want to take a walk outside? :) >It's tonight, Val, >so get your patookus home from work and set that VCR! Oh, you cable snob. I have avoided getting cable, so that I wont turn into a couch potato. Already I am addicted to my handful of TV shows -- add 50+ channels to my list, and I won't ever leave my apartment. The only bad thing is that now I don't get to watch any videos -- I don't think I saw a single one off of UtP. About the CaLS video... >Are there any rats involved this time? Nope, no rats that I recall. >>(although I don't recall seeing her suckling a pig or whatever. And >>doesn't Madonna already have the market cornered on things like that?!) >Don't make such hasty conclusions. I'm sure Tori has a LOT of bizarreness >stored within her, just waiting to be set loose on an unsuspecting public. >(I wonder what she'll wear on Leno on the 8th... ;) You wonder if she'll wear on Leno? Probably. :) As for what she'll wear on Leno, hopefully something bizarre and NOT from the '70s. ==> Valerie ------------------------------ From: Steve Fagg Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 21:45:32 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Re: A GVD (Good Vinyl Day) Neile Graham (neile@u.washington.edu) wrote: > Steeleye Span _Live At Last_ (US version): I've resisted buying this > hoping it would turn up on cd but finally picked it up. This has "The > Atholl Highlander's/Walter Bulwer's Polka", "Saucy Sailor / Black > Freighter", "The Maid and the Palmer", "Hunting the Wren", "Montrose", > "The False Knight on the Road", "Rag Doll". Can any European ectophile > confirm that this tracks are different from the European/UK releases? This LP is slightly different from the original UK release which had the following track listing: The Atholl Highlanders Walter Bulwer's Polka Saucy Sailor Black Freighter The Maid and the Palmer Hunting the Wren Montrose Bonnets so Blue The False Knight on the Road So Neile's recent find has "Rag Doll" in place of "Bonnets so Blue". Like Neile I am very keen to locate a CD of this album, so if anybody knows of such an animal please let us know! :-) For all that this album was probably a contractual obligation, it is (in my opinion) a worthwhile addition to the Steeleye canon and to any folk-rock collection. The band were obviously enjoying themselves on stage when this was recorded. Personally I think it's a pity that this incarnation of Steeleye (which also recorded the studio album "Storm Force Ten" - anybody know of a CD release of that????) didn't last any longer: with Kirkpatrick's accordian and Carthy's distinctive sound this Steeleye exuded a freshness and vitality which I far preferred to the Mike Batt version! - -- Steve Fagg a.k.a. Nightwol ( 'phone: +44-1279-402437 ) ( S.L.Fagg@bnr.co.uk (work) nightwol@dircon.co.uk (home) ) *** We tried to add it all up and got merely sunrise. *** *** Try putting that in a letter to someone in exile. *** ------------------------------ From: MJM Date: 22 Jan 96 14:23:20 EST Subject: Donna Adler in Chicago >I would highly recommend catching this show at Schuba's on Wed. 1/14/96. There are a couple of other acts as well, who I know nothing about.< Urghh, that should be Wed. 1/24/96 9pm. - -mjm ------------------------------ From: Kerry White Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 16:02:09 -0600 (CST) Subject: reading is fundamental! Hello, Just got back from the Public Library and its/their CD area. *This* time I went to Vocal Music and World Music. Picked up Siberry's Maria (never caught my fancy w/ headphones clamped on my head at Blockbreaker's, tho Happy, BelCanto and Monsoon all did). Jill Souble, JS, for the cover, then I saw I Kissed A Girl, so I have heard of her. 2 Ofra Haza, from having heard on NPR. Cassandra Wilson Jumpworld, for the cover and David Gilmore on guitar (if it's Gilmour that I'm thinking of, it is a loan and free!!). Tonight I start 2 weeks of 9:30pm to m5:30am. Stopped in to check my e-mail. Haven't heard *any* of these yet. Will respond to them here[] later. KrW KNOCK,KNOCK "Who is it?" "It's not the cake!" "Come in." EEEEK!! ------------------------------ From: Sue Trowbridge Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 17:21:20 -0500 (EST) Subject: Upcoming musical guests on late night talk shows As always, you can get these anytime -- updated at least twice weekly -- at http://www.interbridge.com/lineups.html. And hey, X-files fans, don't miss http://www.interbridge.com/gillian/gillian.html. LATE SHOW WITH DAVID LETTERMAN, CBS Mo 1/22 B.B. King Tu 1/23 Brandy We 1/24 Joe Ely and Todd Snyder Fr 1/26 Seven Mary Three Mo 1/29 Nanci Griffith We 1/31 D'Angelo Th 2/1 Dwight Yoakam THE TONIGHT SHOW WITH JAY LENO, NBC Mo 1/22 Emmylou Harris Tu 1/23 Bonnie Raitt We 1/24 Melissa Etheridge Fr 1/26 From Phoenix: Diana Ross Mo 1/29 Patty Loveless Th 2/1 Rod Stewart Fr 2/2 All 4 One LATE NIGHT WITH CONAN O'BRIEN, NBC Tu 1/23 Pharcyde Fr 1/26 Lloyd Cole Mo 1/29 Garth Brooks (repeat of 12/12/95) Tu 1/30 Toadies - --Sue Trowbridge ------------------------------ From: damon harper Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 15:22:20 -0800 Subject: weather oneupsmanship, la cite, more male artists At 10:06 22-01-96 -0700, Neil K. wrote: > Heh. Well, oddly enough, we're getting snow up here in Vancouver. Right >now and lots of it. Unusual for this city - normally it just snows once a >year and causes havoc with the legions of incompetent Vancouver drivers and >then melts the next day. It snowed extremely heavily on Saturday, and this >morning it's looking very pretty and Christmassy again - heavy snow coming it's snowing quite heavily out here at ubc too (westmost bit of vancouver), and has been all morning, but unfortunately not one flake seems to be sticking. we still have a tiny layer of hard-packed icy snow from the last brief fall a couple of days ago, but no matter how hard the new snow comes down, it isn't contributing a thing :/ and all the roads and walkways are completely clear. yesterday i was downtown looking for places to live, and there was no snow anywhere. only caked on the cars that had obviously driven in from parts more fortunate. *sigh* I WANT PROPER SNOW! it does *occasionally* happen here - sometimes we have exceptionally cold winters. >down... :) Quite a pleasant change; I miss snow. Down near my parents' >place (they live close to the US border; an hour or so drive away) it's >looking positively alpine - white snow hanging heavy on the dark trees. So mission, my "ancestral home" (about two hours east of vancouver along the fraser river), is apparently quite similar; my mother got snowed in at the mission hospital where she works the night before last. almost makes me want to go home :) > BTW - on a completely unrelated note - on Saturday I saw the French film >La Cite des Enfants Perdus (the City of Lost Children). Really recommend damn, i really want to see this now - and i think i'm probably too late. even if it *is* still running, i doubt i'll have time to see it this week. *grumble* and while i'm writing, it occurred to me i left off a few of my favourite male artists last time i posted: jon and vangelis (that's jon anderson from yes): vangelis does typically wonderfully electronic-ey whimsical music, and jon writes equally wonderful and whimsical lyrics and sings them. i like vangelis by himself, but the lyrics and vocals really add a lot to the experience, i find. and i really like jon anderson's voice. which is interesting, because neither of the (admittedly only two) yes albums i've had the chance to hear have interested me in the slightest for some reason. if they sound interesting to you, i recommend the albums _the friends of mr. cairo_ and _page of life_ above the other two. _friends of mr. cairo_ contains some of the best epic-story-type songs i've heard - one that's over twelve minutes (the title track) and sort of a parody/spoof/retelling of 1930s-style gangster movies. they also do a few science-fiction-ey songs. _page of life_ is just a wonderfully catchy and dancey album throughout. peter schilling: one of those weird german artists ;) - something like a male equivalent of nina hagen (more nina from _angstlos_ than any other albums). very much a science fiction ("filk"?) writer, with songs like "the noah plan" and a major tom song based on david bowie's character (i don't actually know much about bowie myself, though i have a sense that i should find some of his stuff to listen to sometime :) and then there's one of my favourite songs (lyrics only, the music i find loud and ugly) called "let's play usa" - where oh where is mickey mouse? alive and well in the white house. have you heard the master plan: one nation under disneyland! the only album of his i've heard is _error in the system_; i only have an old taped copy, but i always keep an eye open for a cd version when i'm out shopping. "weird al" yankovic: for his parodying of "trash" culture, his silliness, and his flexible voice :) chris de burgh: a friend who really likes him lent me some albums last year and i quite like them - the reason he comes to mind actually is because last night i took a quick look in a second hand store downtown and picked up his 1975 album _spanish train and other stories_. he reminds me a tiny bit of old genesis - at least i like him in the same way. spanish train, at least, is a very old-style-seeming album; hard for me to explain because i don't usually listen to/like music of the sort, but it's very english (as in england), very classical-feeling - he likes to take religious themes and play with them quite a lot. for instance, the title song has the devil and god playing poker and betting souls; and two of the songs ("a spaceman came travelling" which is incredibly lovely, and "just another poor boy") offer alternatives to the doctrinal story of jesus :) anyway, as the title suggests, the songs are mainly stories told to music, which may be part of the reason i like it so much. and to give you an idea of the "old" feeling he's emulating, two of them are set in 1924 (a song about a stripper, actually), and 1917 (the war, of course). and then there's "the painter", which i think is based very very closely on "my last dutchess", a poem by... well, dammit, i can't remember who by just now, but one of the major authors in english literature :) a nice mix of down-to-earth secular stories, majestic-ey playing with religious ideas, and phantasy writing. anyway, didn't mean to go on this long, so i'll stop now. damon _/\_ damon_harper@mindlink.bc.ca __\ /__ "Life is pain, Highness. Vancouver, BC, Canada \ / Anyone who says differently http://www.dfw.net... |/||\| is selling something." .../~soulmate/damon/paukarut.html - from The Princess Bride ------------------------------ End of ecto-digest V2 #355 ************************** ======================================================================== Please send any questions or comments about the list to ecto-owner@nsmx.rutgers.edu