From: owner-ecto-digest To: ecto-digest@ns2.rutgers.edu Subject: ecto-digest V2 #334 Reply-To: ecto@nsmx.rutgers.edu Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Saturday, 6 January 1996 Volume 02 : Number 334 The Ecto digest is now being generated automatically. Please send problems and questions to: ecto-owner@nsmx.rutgers.edu. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kerry White Date: Thu, 4 Jan 1996 22:13:40 -0600 (CST) Subject: Terry Gilliam Hello, Terry Gilliam is on "Charlie Rose" tonight, PBS Check local etc. KrW It was the least I could do! And never let it be said that I didn't do the least I could do. ------------------------------ From: Dan Stark Date: Fri, 5 Jan 1996 01:10:36 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Wild Horses Female singer > It's The Sundays, from their album Blind. Very Excellent. They > also have another great album. Reading, Writing & Arithmetic. > Both are very highly reccomended. Thanks all! - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- DAN STARK 89X / The River dstark@freenet.npiec.on.ca ~\\|//~ CKLW / CKWW -(o o)- Windsor-Detroit - -----------------------------o000o--(_)--o000o------------------------------ ------------------------------ From: Nicholas Hill Date: Fri, 5 Jan 1996 03:11:06 -0500 Subject: Re: Katell etc. Meth asked about the Carnegie Hall benefit... That was Katell with all those folks.. She and Natalie sang a soul tune with Fontella Bass & Katell sang one of her own.. (partisans maybe) She fit right in.. >>I had heard that Joni Mitchell's CBS this Morning segment was scheduled for >>Jan 9th, but it is listed for Wednesday Jan. 3rd in the paper.. yikes, that >>tommorrow. I hope this gets out.. >Indeed it did, and thanks to you (and to woj for seeing the note and actually >remembering to tell me about it ;) I got the whole thing on tape. Pretty >cool. I assume that was Brian Blade performing with her on drums there? >Interesting note: the studio audience was made up entirely of WFUV listeners, >and the woman who asked the question about the upcoming Joni box set was ooops>>>>>>>to mention rabid, raving Joni fan. Go Rita! :) Brian Blade it was.. My tape ran out before the last song.. (she taped three, but i guess they only aired 2) >>Jane was one of the hundreds of performers and poets to do a 2-5 minute >>piece at St. Marks Church in NYC as part of the 22nd annual New Years Day >>Marathon reading yesterday.. >So, were you there? Tell us more!!!!! I was, but alas I left before she sang... It was 10 hours long.. Nicholas Hill.........gone to mexico... Happy new year to all... faucet@pipeline.com PS YIKES. Krock-FM in NYC goes modern rock format today.. that is scary and sudden.. Vin Scelsa may be shook up.. ------------------------------ From: Dirk Kastens Date: Fri, 5 Jan 1996 10:03:03 +0100 (NFT) Subject: Re: yatwl (yet another top whatever list) On Fri, 5 Jan 1996, Ulrich Grepel wrote: > - PJ Harvey: To Bring You My Love > > PJ Harvey's music is a kind of music I cannot listen to while I work. > This is because it seems impossible for me to concentrate when it's > running. Anyone else got this problem? This is even more extreme with > the 4-Track Demos CD (1993) from her. Nevertheless I like it quite a > lot, for similar reasons as Alanis Morissette. I recently bought the limited edition double CD which also includes the B-Side CD. To Bring You My Love is slowly growing on me, but I still don't like the tracks with the distorted vocals. I really can't get into the B-sides, that's really hard stuff, unbearable. After the first 10 seconds I always skip over to the next track. I'll try to compile my top ten list before I go on vacation. Regards, Dirk Kastens _______________Dirk.Kastens@rz.Uni-Osnabrueck.DE Universitaet Osnabrueck Phone: +49/541/969-2347 (work) Rechenzentrum Fax: +49/541/969-2470 (work) Albrechtstr. 28 Phone: +49/541/258182 (private) 49069 Osnabrueck Germany ------------------------------ From: gtp10@cus.cam.ac.uk (Dr G.T. Parks) Date: Fri, 5 Jan 96 10:45 GMT Subject: Another 1995 Top 10 Just to skew the voting somewhat here are my selections for the best releases of 1995 (in no particular order): Iona "Journey Into The Morn" As you will be able to tell from the rest of my list, I'm very fond of Celtic folk and progressive rock. Iona's music is a wonderful mixture of both styles. This, their fourth album, is their strongest yet. Happy Rhodes "The Keep" I can't really add anything to the numerous eulogies this release has already received. Bonus marks for using a photo of my university in the cover art! Echolyn "As The World" The debut major label release from the most exciting progressive rock band to have emerged in the USA in a long time. Amazingly they weren't pressured into commercialising their rather complex style, somewhat reminiscent of Gentle Giant. Unfortunately, the word is that they have now split up unable to cope with "the corporate shit". Tannas "Ru-Ra" The second album by an upcoming Scottish band. Produced by Donald Shaw (of Capercaillie) and in the same vein as that band's earlier albums but with dual lead vocals. Anuna "Omnis" I saw their previous album "Invocation" crop up in a couple of lists. Here in Europe we're privileged to have this wonderful choral ensemble's third album available already. The Iron Horse "Voice Of The Land" Ostensibly a soundtrack album for a TV series "The Gamekeeper" this is actually a wonderful album of traditional Scottish music in its own right. Female vocals of course - I can't abide male folk singers. Grey Lady Down "Forces" A great advance on their debut this upcoming UK progressive rock band are finally finding their own sound. Lots of widdly keyboards, soaring guitars, excellent vocals and very memorable, melodic songs. Arena "Songs From The Lions Cage" A project involving Mick Pointer (Marillion's original drummer) and Clive Nolan (keyboard player for innumerable UK prog bands) and not surprisingly rather reminiscent of early Marillion. Great walls of keyboards and long pretentious songs! Landmarq "The Vision Pit" The third release from this UK prog band and their strongest yet. Landmarq manage the remarkable trick of sounding quite like no one else but quite familiar at the same time. Compared to their previous albums this is much less radio friendly (not that they ever get played on the radio!) but still surprisingly instantly memorable. Strictly Inc. "Strictly Inc." The latest 'solo' project from Tony Banks (of Genesis) is actually a collaboration with Jack Hues (of Wang Chung), although Banks wrote all the music. Tony Banks has always been my favourite songwriter and probably always will be. The closing seventeen minute "Islands In The Darkness" is the best track to emerge from the Genesis camp in at least a decade. Happy New Year to all! Geoff Parks ------------------------------ From: Neile Graham Date: Fri, 5 Jan 1996 08:38:50 -0800 (PST) Subject: Correction to my top list and info on Mari Boine availability Jim pointed out that I messed up big time on my list--one of the bands I mentioned on the list of great beginnings that I even praised for its name I typed the name in wrong--it's not name My Beautiful Beast but my Brilliant Beast. Sorry, I was brain dead by that time. I still like the name, though. And I wanted to report that Tower Records in Seattle now has Mari Boine's Leahkastin (Unfolding) and Goaskinviellja (Eagle Brother) in stock. A delightful surprise, even though I already have them (many thanks to Jens!). Tower even has their semi-annual sale on right now. - --Neile ------------------------------ From: larnep@pathfinder.com (Larne Pekowsky) Date: Fri, 5 Jan 1996 13:11:28 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Correction to my top list and info on Mari Boine availability Neile: > name I typed the name in wrong--it's not name My Beautiful Beast but my > Brilliant Beast. Hee. This was what Marge called Homer at the end of that episode where they go camping and Homer is mistaken for bigfoot... I wonder if this is a deliberate reference. - Larne, master of utterly useless TV trivia ------------------------------ From: rzeisern@colybrand.com (Rob Zeiser -- HRA - Dallas ) Date: Fri, 5 Jan 96 13:16:21 EST Subject: Top albums of 1995 To: ECTO, Digest I hate doing this...almost certainly I will prefer releases that I haven't had time to listen to yet. For example, I haven't given enough (or any) time to October Project, Heather Nova, Joan Armatrading, Madonna, or even Happy's latest. However, among the albums released this year that I've had a chance to become familiar with, these are my favorites (in alphabetical order): Don Dixon, _Romantic Depressive_ k.d. lang, _All You Can Eat_ Mae Moore, _Dragonfly_ Pretenders, _Isle of View_ Jill Sobule, Matthew Sweet, _100% Fun_ Warren Zevon, _Mutineer_ I say we should all go back to our CD collections and pick our favorites for 1994! By the way, has anyone visited the CD Connection recently? If you buy a CD there, they ask you the next time you order to rate the last disks you bought on a scale of one to ten. The call it their Golden Ears Review system. Anyway, they posted their highest scorers, and Happy made the list at #36 with an average 8.6 rating for _Warpaint_! Anyway, thanks for the forum... ------------------------------ From: Garrick Twinney Date: Fri, 5 Jan 1996 20:21:42 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Album of the year. Hi all. Just a brief delurk to tell the world my top albums of '95. Not that I brought that many due to student finances. The top album, for me, of '95 has to be Natalie Merchant's 'Tiger Lily' which is simply stunning. I love it to bits and can't stop listening to it! Jumping headlong into debate here I have to say that my number 2 album of '95 is Alanis Morissette with JLP. Sorry to whom this may offend but I love its unsubtlety and frankness. IMHO this 'just works'! Thirdly I'll have to have Aimee Mann with "I'm With Stupid". I just love this album. Although many say that it isn't as good as 'Whatever', I think that it is. And I saw Aimee in concert a couple of months ago :) I running out of steam now. Was Sleeper's album 'Smart' released in 95? That is certainly when I got it so I'll count it anyway. Many of their songs are about as subtle as Alanis Morissette and I love them to. I haven't heard 'The Keep' yet but I'm sure it'll come somewhere above when I have. Also '95 was the year that I discovered Happy, thanks to a friend, so I can count her as well. Laurie Anderson's 'The Ugly One With The Jewels' also deserves mention for being brilliant. That's all I can think of at the moment. Best wishes. Garrick. ------------------------------ From: rzeisern@colybrand.com (Rob Zeiser -- HRA - Dallas ) Date: Fri, 5 Jan 96 16:30:38 EST Subject: Building the Collossus To: ECTO, Digest Sue wrote: >p.s. I just found a used copy of Building the Colossus in the >"heavymetal" section of a local CD emporium -- I would never have >noticed it there, of course, but it happened to be in the front and >I glimpsed it as I walked by. And that's not even one with a >monster cover!! I picked it up, since I had never gotten around to >purchasing it due to the, shall we say, mixed reviews it received >here on ecto. I'm sure I'm not the first to stand in the album's defense, but it's my favorite Happy record. It's a bit "poppier" and polished than previous efforts, which I don't see as a fault. Also, being a mathematical guy, I am more focused on melody than lyrics. However, I really enjoy the lyrics to "Dying" and "Collective Heart", etc. I'm also a sucker for complex harmonies. Anyway, I think it's a great disc. ------------------------------ From: ariana@nycmetro.com Date: Fri, 5 Jan 1996 23:47:12 -0500 Subject: Alannis Morrissette:again Since everyone seems to have an opinion about her I feel I should share mine. I first heard this song in the summer. When I first heard it I payed no attention to it (meaning the words). One day I was on a bus ride home from somewhere and I heard the song, "YOu ought to Know". I was like great lyrics and anger. I also liked how her voice sounded. True it's not pretty but to me its sort of unique. But at the time I did not know who sang it and it wasn't played much. It really bugged me. Finally I found out. About that time I heard it was getting a little air play on the top 40 stations. A friend of mine bought the album and made me a copy. She told me she liked it but complained it was too bitter and this girl must really have problems! lol I listened to it and I liked every single song. This hasn't happened to me since I got Little Earth Quakes from Tori Amos. Then she got really popular and I found out from a web site that she had 2 other albums. I bought one and my friend bought one. Her first album wasn't so bad. Her second album I couldn't even sit through...BAck to her popularity. I get the image of her that she is not a very nice person. But you know what you or I don't have to like the person who makes the music. Far as I am concerned Alannis is not my friend so I am not so concerned how she behaves etc... I like her music because I can relate to it and because I have a lot of anger in me. Will I ever go to see a show of hers? At this point I have no desire to because I have no interest in seeing a show off. (I guess for the same reason why people hate her.) I prefer to see someone more modest/down to earth like Tori Amos. Talking about women singing and being angry how come no one talks about Liz Phair on here. She also sings about her sexuality more in your face then Tori. Songs like Fuck and Run, and Flower. ------------------------------ From: "Joseph Zitt" Date: Fri, 5 Jan 1996 23:04:16 +0000 Subject: Re: Bop bop doo wop Dar On 4 Jan 96 at 11:08, S. Lunsford & T. O'Reilly wrote: > Anyway, so I guess the three songs that I really like a lot on The > Honesty Room are: When I Was a Boy, The Great Unknown, and This is > Not The House That Pain Built. I *really* can't stand "Mark Rothko > Song" because of the line "...it's like you can't explain yourself to > me/I think I'll ask Renoir to tea" which is such a godawful rhyme Hmmm... now I'm going to have to check out this album. I *love* "When I was a Boy", and Mark Rothko was one of my fave artists (godawful rhyme notwithstanding)... - ---------1---------1---------1---------1---------1---------1---------- |||/ Joseph Zitt ==== jzitt@humansystems.com ===== Human Systems \||| ||/ Organizer, SILENCE: The John Cage Mailing List \|| |/Joe Zitt's Home Page\| ------------------------------ From: Neal Copperman Date: Sat, 6 Jan 1996 01:44:17 -0500 (EST) Subject: Alanis & Grammies From Friday's Washington Post "She [Alanis] was an unknown Canadian singer before her album rocketed up the charts thanks to "You Oughta Know," a salty discourse on failed romance." Salty?? neal ------------------------------ From: damon harper Date: Sat, 06 Jan 1996 02:14:50 -0800 Subject: Re: Alanis & Grammies neal quoted: >From Friday's Washington Post > >"She [Alanis] was an unknown Canadian singer before her album rocketed up >the charts thanks to "You Oughta Know," a salty discourse on failed >romance." > >Salty?? hi neal! :) i think, i really do think, that what this term means is that the reviewer thought it sounded like it meant something... and maybe even made up a meaning to go with it, so he/she'd have something to say it meant. don't you think? :P damon, who is incredibly angry right now. had one of those long discussions about humanity with a friend, and, well, yep, i'm angry. about a lot of things. grrrrrr. so don't come near me. maybe i'll go listen to jagged little pill ;) _/\_ Damon_Harper@mindlink.bc.ca __\ /__ "I'm proud to be a banker... Vancouver, BC, CANADA \ / Because I get to play with |/||\| other people's money!" http://www.dfw.net/~soulmate/damon/paukarut.html - Arrogant Worms ------------------------------ From: f.mcguire1@genie.com Date: Sat, 6 Jan 96 12:32:00 UTC 0000 Subject: nj/phila concerts Hi! Here is a list of some upcoming shows in the Central New Jersey and Phila. area: The Keswick: Ani DiFranco 2/10/96 , tix $18.50 (is that the most expensive she's been?) Noa and Gil Dor Sunday, May 19th, tix $22.50 At the Grace Norton Rogers School in Hightstown, New Jersey: 1/4/96 Cheryl Wheeler w/Lucy Kaplansky 1/27/96 The Nields 1/28/96 Dar Williams 2/24/96 Vance Gilbert/Sally Fingerett 3/2/95 Amy and Jennie/John Flynn 3/3/96 Lucy Kaplansky and Richard Shindell 4/20/96 John Gorka/Lucy Kaplansky There is a concert hotline for the above shows at (609)259-5764 Enjoy! Sherry ------------------------------ From: ariel_b@pipeline.com (Ariel Brennan) Date: Sat, 6 Jan 1996 13:39:44 -0500 Subject: Re: the return of the return of On Jan 03, 1996 22:53:35, 'THE OLIVE-LOAF VIGILANTE ' wrote: Re: Tori's Caught A Lite Sneeze single >Argh! We've been searching all over northern New Jersey for the past two >days trying to find it, with no luck. Well, I got it yesterday, in NYC. You could try J&R Music World, which is a few blocks from the World Trade Center. That's where I got mine, and they probably have a few more copies at least. They have a good selection, although not as big as, say, HMV. But, to make up for it, they sell EVERYTHING mega-cheap as a rule - you'll find certain CD's that have a regular price of $9, and the most expensive single CD I've ever seen there was all of $14. >Ariel declared: > >>I have no idea who Amy Ray is, so I can't say much to that, >Amy Ray = 1/2 of the Indigo Girls (along with Emily Saliers). She's the >brunette with the deeper, rougher voice and the cool tattoos. :) Oh. Well, in that case, I'd have to disagree. But I've only heard one IG song, so... >>BUT, I can >>testify to the resemblence between Ferrick and Morissette's voices. I've >>played JLP and WTW to a few people, and they generally had no idea the >>vocalists were different people. >You have confused friends. :) Not really. Morissette and Ferrick REALLY sound a lot alike. The accents, the pronunciation, the general voice. Very similar. The musical styles are much different, of course, and so are the lyrics and topics written about. Ariel - -- "Where are the bones on that one?" - Joan Osborne ------------------------------ From: ariel_b@pipeline.com (Ariel Brennan) Date: Sat, 6 Jan 1996 13:43:52 -0500 Subject: Re: Top 10 On Jan 03, 1996 19:48:12, 'marks59@ix.netcom.com (MARK SHEPARD )' wrote: >I guess one's biggest disappointment is another's greatest treasure! Always! It's interesting to see how much tastes vary, even on a list like this... Re: Heather Nova >.Now,anything >else I try to listen to seems bland,bland,bland compared to Heather's >music.But that's just me I guess. Well, I thought Oyster was okay, and I can't remember whether or not it was on my top ten, but I do think it's kind of bland. I think it's a very hit or miss album. I like it less and less the more I listen to it, so I usually stick to the first four songs, and Doubled Up... Ariel - -- "Where are the bones on that one?" - Joan Osborne ------------------------------ From: Neal Copperman Date: Sat, 6 Jan 1996 15:03:05 -0500 (EST) Subject: Get thee to a dictionary Ok, so maybe that should have occured to me before implying that the salty Morissette comment sounded odd.... Adjective: Bordering on indelicacy or impropriety. blue, broad, suggestive, dubious, racy, off-color, scabrous, spicy, risque. Hope my dinner (or at least my dinner companions!) are salty.... Neal ------------------------------ From: JULESETTE@delphi.com Date: Sat, 06 Jan 1996 17:09:58 -0500 (EST) Subject: Poe You're not alone. I LOVE Poe, I've been meaning to mention her myself. The Edie/portishead reference is apt, all I can think of comparing her to is Suzanne Vega's 99.9 degrees album. When I first heard her, she really reminded me of that. I was really surprised that I liked the whole album as much as I do. Julie ------------------------------ From: f.mcguire1@genie.com Date: Sun, 7 Jan 96 00:35:00 UTC 0000 Subject: Prism alert If anyone in the Phila./New Jersey area gets the pay cable channel PRISM, make sure to tune in on Thursday, 1/10 at 6pm. The Prism Music Magazine made a one year anniversary show. At the very end, there is a in-studio performance of Happy playing "Look for the Child" solo acoustic. Unfortunately, there are credits rolling over some of it, but the song is complete. Sherry ------------------------------ From: neilg@sfu.ca (Neil K.) Date: Sat, 6 Jan 1996 17:28:52 -0700 Subject: Re: Alanis & Grammies At 2:14 AM on 1/6/96, damon harper wrote: >>"She [Alanis] was an unknown Canadian singer before her album rocketed up >>the charts thanks to "You Oughta Know," a salty discourse on failed >>romance." >> >>Salty?? >i think, i really do think, that what this term means is that the reviewer >thought it sounded like it meant something... and maybe even made up a >meaning to go with it, so he/she'd have something to say it meant. don't >you think? :P Well, salty is a real word -mean saucy or spicy or risque or whatever, but it sure ain't a word with much currency these days. It's one of those words that nobody under the age of, say, 80, can really use without dumping in a hefty batch of irony. >damon, who is incredibly angry right now. had one of those long discussions >about humanity with a friend, and, well, yep, i'm angry. about a lot of >things. grrrrrr. so don't come near me. maybe i'll go listen to jagged >little pill ;) Eek! (Grocible backs away) - Neil K. - -- Neil K. Guy * neilg@sfu.ca * tela@tela.bc.ca 49N 16' 123W 7' * Vancouver, BC, Canada ------------------------------ End of ecto-digest V2 #334 ************************** ======================================================================== Please send any questions or comments about the list to ecto-owner@nsmx.rutgers.edu