From: owner-ecto-digest To: ecto-digest@ns2.rutgers.edu Subject: ecto-digest V2 #314 Reply-To: ecto@nsmx.rutgers.edu Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Friday, 22 December 1995 Volume 02 : Number 314 The Ecto digest is now being generated automatically. Please send problems and questions to: ecto-owner@nsmx.rutgers.edu. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin John Contzen Date: Thu, 21 Dec 1995 09:11:16 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Sarah McLachlan single > of a new album doesn't sell they don't put out a second one. Another > >drawback is the price of a single that's more than 1/3 of the price > of >an album. So what is if you think that's bad, singles here cost just as much as albums, or at most 1 or 2 dollars cheaper... makes getting those remixes and extra tracks very expensive :( - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- kevin contzen ....... so take a lesson from the strangeness you feel and know vancouver, bc ..... you'll never be the same and find it in your heart to kneel canada ... down and say i gave my love didn't i? and i gave big some contzen@sfu.ca . times and i gave it in my own sweet time i'm just leaving ------------------------------ From: Charley.Darbo@harpercollins.com (Charley Darbo) Date: Thu, 21 Dec 1995 12:57:12 -0500 Subject: La Williams Jeffy writes: 'Personally, I think that some of the _SR_ versions surpass the "originals." "Crazy Mary" comes to mind first, but there are others.' I have to disagree. (My second post and already I'm arguing.) Eddie V. adds nothing to "Crazy Mary" beyond his nearly (to my ears) unlistenable voice: All the phrasing is Vic's, all the ephases; even all the inflections. _Sweet Relief_ is very special to me for its affect on Vic's life, but overall I was largely disappointed with it: too few female artists (and those few included have styles similar enough to Vic's to be uninteresting--or at least unsurprising--choices); too many bands chosen simply for their (largely ephemeral; read down the list) fame and marketability; and very few liberties taken with Vic's originals. Even the best moment, Lou Reed's seeming to make "Tarbelly and Featherfoot" sound like it's his own song, only serves to remind me how vividly Vic's original exhibits her Reedian roots. So though I'd have to criticize _Sweet Relief_ for being too reverant (a literal tribute), it holds a permanent place on my top shelf for two reasons: No matter who covers those songs or how, you just can't find songs like that around every corner; and for its role in pulling Vic out of obscurity and into the light which she, like so few of the artists with whom she now shares it, so richly deserves. It's made her MS a cliche' blessing in disguise, rather than the curse it could have been. --charleydarbo ------------------------------ From: Laurel Krahn Date: Thu, 21 Dec 1995 13:26:26 -0800 (PST) Subject: tributes (again) :-) SWEET RELIEF is a tribute to Victoria Williams, with proceeds from the album benefiting musicians who lack health insurance... such as Victoria, who has MS. Artists on the album include: The Jayhawks, Soul Asylum, Pearl Jam (with Victoria lending backup for 'em), Matthew Sweet, the Waterboys, Lucinda Williams, Maria McKee, Evan Dando, Lou Reed, and many other fine folks. It's really spiffy. I know a lot of people who discovered Victoria's songwriting through this album (some folks just don't like her voice, so they really appreciated this album). Victoria Williams is now married to one of the members of the Jayhawks. A friend of mine in Minneapolis reports the Jayhawks are breaking up. Bums me out, I've seen 'em play many times-- one time right after SWEET RELIEF came out, they performed "Lights" as an encore and I was thrilled... it's such a wonderful version of the song. The Richard Thompson tribute (well, the most recent Thompson tribute), BEAT THE RETREAT, features Thompson songs performed by X, R.E.M., Bonnie Raitt, Bob Mould (with John Doe on bass and harmony vocals :-) ), Syd Straw & Evan Dando, Los Lobos, June Tabor, Dinosaur Jr, Graham Parker, David Byrne, Beausoleil, Shawn COlvin and Loudon Wainwright III, The Five Blind Boys of Alabama, Maddy Prior & Martin Carthy. I was skeptical about this tribute at first, when I heard R.E.M.'s version of "Wall of Death"... much different than the Richard and Linda Thompson original. But... well, the whole album is swell. Richard Thompson is probably my favorite songwriter... well, he's certainly high on the list. And lots of other folks like his stuff. It shows on this album... Bob Mould has done Thompson covers often, the version of "Turning of the Tide" that he does with John Doe rocks. And the X version of "Shoot Out the Lights" absolutely kicks butt (with David Hidalgo of Los Lobos also playing on the track). Other tracks on the album make me look at the songs in a different light. Some are faithful to the originals... they range from rockers to pop to pretty folk songs to ballads... all over the map. I'd forgotten about the Roky Erickson, Neil Young, and the first Leonard Cohen tribute. As tributes go, they're pretty good. Not as solid all the way through, but with some songs by some of my fave artists. And other unexpected pleasures. best, Laurel (lakrahn@imho.net) Krahn Virtual Home: http://www.apocalypse.org/pub/u/lakrahn/ ------------------------------ From: Kerry White Date: Thu, 21 Dec 1995 16:06:27 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: Opening CD's Hello, On Thu, 21 Dec 1995, Rob Zeiser -- HRA - Dallas wrote: > > Hey, my boyfriend showed me a neat trick a few months ago. He takes > a small coin (like a dime) and runs it along the front of the disk > in the slot where the cover meets the spine. It slices open the > shrinkwrap, making removal significantly easier. Dime, fingernail, pin in a poison-ring, teeth, end of antler, serpent's tooth, a 'zing' from someone who knows you too well, or a ^, whatever's handy works! KrW "...and 495+1/2 feet of rope!" :Jamie Brocket ------------------------------ From: ptv@rtp.scm-metals.com (Patrick Varker) Date: Thu, 21 Dec 1995 18:10:28 -0500 Subject: Peace and Joy This being my first year on ecto let me say that I've enjoyed it immensely. Even though I haven't met any of you "face to face",I do feel like I've gotten to know quite a few of you! I look forward everyday to what interesting things I'll find here. Anyway just wanted to take this time to say Peace and Joy to everyone. Patrick ------------------------------ From: Kerry White Date: Thu, 21 Dec 1995 18:11:28 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: Peace and Joy Hello, On Thu, 21 Dec 1995, Patrick Varker wrote: > This being my first year on ecto let me say that I've enjoyed > it immensely. Even though I haven't met any of you "face to face",I > do feel like I've gotten to know quite a few of you! I look forward > everyday to what interesting things I'll find here. Anyway just wanted > to take this time to say Peace and Joy to everyone. > > Patrick Peace and Joy back atcha, and all others, too! KrW Commit senseless acts of kindness, and random acts of beauty! ------------------------------ From: rlovejoy@netaxs.com (Robert Lovejoy) Date: Thu, 21 Dec 1995 22:23:30 -0500 Subject: Re: Peace and Joy > This being my first year on ecto let me say that I've enjoyed >it immensely. Thank you, Patrick. I've been plugged in here for some time now, and it has always held a warm fuzzy blue spot for me as well. It's like a little utopia- no flames, great tips on great music, all sorts of people from all over the world, and most everyone knows who Happy Rhodes is. What more could you ask for? That said, let me bestow, um, Love and Joy to ectophiles everwhere. Now go forth and play "O Holy Night" from The Keep! Robert ------------------------------ From: 32 flavors and then some Date: Thu, 21 Dec 1995 22:49:15 -0500 Subject: Re: Good Tribute Albums (no, really!) ! sez: >not recommending tribute albums for: the ramones, the monkees, and >a lot of other stuff that musta sounded better on the proposal letter... there already is a monkees tribute: _here no evil_ on long play records. twenty-one tracks and only four "big" names: anne richmond boston doing "mr. webster", peter holsapple doing "you just may be the one", mitch easter doing "valleri" and magnapop tackles "pleasant valley sunday". the only other band on this that i've heard of are the vulgar boatmen. it does feature a band with one of the best names i've ever heard: boise and moss with a side of ham. rock on, boise. +w ------------------------------ From: 32 flavors and then some Date: Thu, 21 Dec 1995 22:54:40 -0500 Subject: Re: more tribes Kerry White sez: >He says[] that his bass player *may* have an EP. tribe released a 4-song 12" ep called, um, wait...it didn't have a name. it did have "pinwheels", "vigil", "lemmings", and yet another version of "abort". if i recall correctly, this is the version with greg hawkes (of the cars) playing keyboards. i remember playing this ep back in ye olde college radio daze. footah has a copy, the bastard. ;) woj ------------------------------ From: 32 flavors and then some Date: Thu, 21 Dec 1995 23:02:08 -0500 Subject: nick drake "Donahue, Jim" sez: > If you're not familiar with Drake's music, do yourself a > favor and get "Way to Blue" (a fine collection) or "Bryter > Layter" (probably his best album). Very ecto (I think). although buying "fruit tree" (or whatever the nick drake box set is called) is a highly recommended (by me!) activity, those who do not wish to splurge without reason should check out a compilation that is eponymously titled and on island records. incidentially, there is still talk of a tribute album, but nothing definte has happened. the closest thing you're going to find to a tribute album now is a record by scott appel called _nine of swords_ which includes a number of nick's songs as well as some drake-ian originals. woj ------------------------------ From: basil@naxs.com (Brad Hutchinson) Date: Fri, 22 Dec 1995 00:12:14 -0500 Subject: Einstein on the Road Wonderfully strange traveling music indeed--listening to _Einstein on the Beach_ while traveling the dark winding four lane/two lane through the coal fields. It was snowing--the kind that never seems to touch the car's windshild and makes straight lines in the headlights--better lines with low beams than with high. The illusion requires only so much light. For some reason, this has always been cold weather music and tonight it was perfect--listening to it in the car, the voices counting out and violins overlapping. Of course, I only got to hear part but it was enough. Snow swirling and music wrapping me up as I made sure not to slide on black ice, on curves. My solstice. That and teaching Elizabeth Bishop and Ann Beattie. Wouldn't that be a conversation, the two of them. Happy solstice all. brad Accuracy of observation is the equivalent of accuracy of thinking. - --Wallace Stevens brad hutchinson: bhutchin@pen.k12.va.us or Jill Sunderlin and brad basil@netaccess.naxs.com ------------------------------ From: Kerry White Date: Thu, 21 Dec 1995 23:21:05 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: Peace and Joy Hello, On Thu, 21 Dec 1995, Robert Lovejoy wrote: > > That said, let me bestow, um, Love and Joy to ectophiles everwhere. Now go > forth and play "O Holy Night" from The Keep! and: Little Drummer Boy Tori LE Boot Home For Christmas KaTe [a Red Shoes] single Christmas messages Beatles The Christmas Messages for the Fan Club Father Christmas ELP Works V 2 Uncle Bernie's Farm Frank Zappa Absolutely Free KrW It was the least I could do. Never let it be said that I didn't do the least I could do. ------------------------------ From: Kerry White Date: Fri, 22 Dec 1995 00:16:32 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: Einstein on the Road Hello, On Fri, 22 Dec 1995, Brad Hutchinson wrote: > Wonderfully strange traveling music indeed--listening to _Einstein > on the Beach_ while traveling the dark winding four lane/two lane through Do I remember correctly: P Glass music? If so it *would* fit that mood. I usually think that he is too much like his name, stiff and brittle, Steven Reich travels the same road but is soft-and-fuzzier. _Music for 18 Musicians_ sounds like the perfect rainstorm in an abandoned glass factory. Reich for rainstorms and Glass for the snow, a nice symmetry, that! KrW It was the least I could do. Never let it be said that I didn't do the least I could do. ------------------------------ From: Neal Copperman Date: Fri, 22 Dec 1995 01:49:10 -0500 (EST) Subject: Michelle Shocked Last night I saw Michelle SHocked perform in my farewell to the old 9:30 Club (It moves to a new location at the end of the month, after 15 years! an incredibly long time for a club. Then again, everyone holds high hopes for the new club, like less rats.) Anyway, Michelle performed a solo and very electric show. Last time I saw her, a year and a half ago in San Diego, she performed stark accoustic versions of much of Kind Hearted Woman before being joined by a small bunch of (hothouse) flowers for a whole mess of favorites. This time it was just her and an electric guitar. After the first three songs, she played all requests, which seemed to come largely from the first two albums. She took the spare style from KHW and applied it to most of her songs. I didn't think it always worked as well as the original versions, but Michelle is always a joy to see on stage. She's so personal, makes more faces than any performer I've ever seen, and frequently added new verses or stories to the middle of the songs. Naturally, she attacked Mercury Records regularly (She's been trying to get out of her contract for the last 3 years, ever since they refused to support her in the variuos directions she wanted to go), but felt like she had some chance of being free this year. She moved to New Orleans a while ago, and has written a number of bluesy, bawdy, brass band style numbers that were a riot, though I'd love to hear them with an actual band. Even if a radio station were willing to play Michelle Shocked, you wouldn't hear these, as songs like Hard Core Hornagraphy and Don't Tell Wizard were peppered with double entendres and profanity. She also has a new song on the upcoming soundtrack to Dead Man Walking. The song is called "The Quality of Mercy". I was hoping for more of Kind Hearted WOman, which I really think is her best album to date. It's just a harrowing, emotional album. SHe finally played a pair of songs in the first encore, and they were easily the most powerfull moments of the evening. No news on anything new being recorded, but they had a big stack of KHW discs for sale, so if anyone cares, looks like you can still buy them from : Michelle Shocked Fan Conspiracy 409 N Pacific Coast Hwy #484 Redondo Beach CA 90277 They sell for $15 at the shows, and last time they were asking $16 if you wanted them mailed. Neal ------------------------------ From: wkadel@napanet.net (Xenophanes!) Date: Thu, 21 Dec 1995 23:30:22 -0800 Subject: Edie Brickell on Win '95 'Lo there! Has anyone else noticed the Edie Brickell video on the Windows '95 CDRom? I don't know if this has been discussed before, but it's in grt quality if you look at eh High Performance versin. It's a remake of an old song, but I don't know Edie too well, so I don't know what it's called. Xenophanes! "Sing while you may!" >:-) -- Edward Qa-Spel "Set me free, Remotivate me!" >:-( -- Martin L. Gore Edward (Ward) Ernest Kadel III wkadel@napanet.net ------------------------------ From: Dirk Kastens Date: Fri, 22 Dec 1995 10:46:11 +0100 (NFT) Subject: Tori interview Hi, the latest issue of the german KEYBOARDS magazine contains a great interview with Tori and her recording engineers on the recording of her new album. The album has been recorded in an old Irish church. Tori played a piano and a chembalo. She was standing in a small wooden damped box to separate her voice from the piano sound. Only the keyboards of the piano and the chembalo were inside the box. There were lots of microphones placed in the church to record the different sounds and reverbs. Everything was recorded on multi-track tapes and mixed later. The release of the album was dated January 26th. Dirk Kastens _______________Dirk.Kastens@rz.Uni-Osnabrueck.DE Universitaet Osnabrueck Phone: +49/541/969-2347 (work) Rechenzentrum Fax: +49/541/969-2470 (work) Albrechtstr. 28 Phone: +49/541/258182 (private) 49069 Osnabrueck Germany ------------------------------ From: Yngve Hauge Date: Fri, 22 Dec 1995 13:20:16 +0100 (MET) Subject: Help!! sampler problem Hi all and merry christmas all, I got this problem with a sampler of ecto stuff I'm going to make to my goddaughter. Ok, it seems like a trivial thing, right? But it's really a problem cause she is only 3 years and live on the Phillipines, so.... she is kinda young and far away from cold Norway. Could you please suggest some songs to put on the sampler? I wanna give her a proper musical education, you know :) once again - Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year (if I don't come here before 1996). Holly - I seem to have lost your mail address ... could you please mail me? A Fuzzyblue Merry Christmas to you sis!!!! *fuzzyblue hugs* Yngve ________________________________________________________________ Yngve Hauge | __ ___ __ | | _ www: http://ulke.himolde.no/~yngveh/ |-- | | | ||-- |_||| |_ Irc-nick: One Alien |__ |__ | |__|| | |||_|_ ------------------------------ From: Michael Colford Date: Fri, 22 Dec 1995 08:56:26 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: more tribes On Thu, 21 Dec 1995, 32 flavors and then some wrote: > tribe released a 4-song 12" ep called, um, wait...it didn't have a name. > it did have "pinwheels", "vigil", "lemmings", and yet another version of > "abort". if i recall correctly, this is the version with greg hawkes (of > the cars) playing keyboards. > > i remember playing this ep back in ye olde college radio daze. footah > has a copy, the bastard. ;) > woj Being a Boston area resident and around when Tribe first made a splash, I think I have all their available items. The other thing they released was a 12" single for the song Jakpot. It's the dance remix, but it's really not all that different. Boy, Tribe was a great band, it's sad to see them gone. Lead singer Janet LaValley had a cool song on the radio early this year called "Dirigible." It was actually a Tribe song, I believe, that she got after the broke up. I'm waiting for her to do something else. -------------------------------------------------------------------- Michael Colford | Reading Public Library | Reading, Massachusetts colford@noble.mass.edu | *North of Boston Library Exchange* -------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: "Jens P. Brage" Date: Fri, 22 Dec 1995 14:47:10 +0100 Subject: Solstice Greetings Hi Ecto! I've been in extreme lurk mode recently due to work pressure (I even missed the HGP), but I just wanted to wish you all the best for the solstice... And a merry christmas and Happy new year too! Best CD of the year? Well, it's not actually from '95, but an album which has recently knocked my feet out from under me (and probably ranks as best discovery this year) is Toni Child's "The Woman's Boat". WOW! It was great visting many of you this Summer; see you all in the new year, on the Net or in RL... PS: My old sphere.home.id.dtu.dk address is now defunct; I'm working on finding a new Internet provider, but for now you can find me at my work address: brage@delta.dk... - -- Jens P. Brage (jbr@delta.dk)|Ah you reckon with your chances take them up with Delta IC Design |god; god takes his aim and throws up his arms; he Venlighedsvej 4 |lays you on the cross of your own immortal soul and DK-2970 Hoersholm, Denmark |screams fire in your ears, you must never let go ------------------------------ From: AURALG@aol.com Date: Fri, 22 Dec 1995 10:28:37 -0500 Subject: Happy Holidays Hello ho ho Just wanted to take a sec and wish everyone a safe, sane, peaceful, joyous, and loving holiday season. KB @ AG ------------------------------ From: JJH969@aol.com Date: Fri, 22 Dec 1995 11:20:13 -0500 Subject: Seasons Greetings Good Yule To You All ! John ------------------------------ From: Neile Graham Date: Fri, 22 Dec 1995 09:30:51 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: nick drake woj writes: > incidentially, there is still talk of a tribute album, but nothing > definte has happened. the closest thing you're going to find to a > tribute album now is a record by scott appel called _nine of swords_ > which includes a number of nick's songs as well as some drake-ian > originals. What is this like? The only time I've ever seen it, the price was pretty steep even for an import so I've held off buying it. I bought the _Tanworth in Arden_ boot in a place that didn't carry boots so I thought it must be a legit release, but looking at the packaging it doesn't appear to be. The sound is definitely boot quality, though. Interesting material. - --Neile ------------------------------ End of ecto-digest V2 #314 ************************** ======================================================================== Please send any questions or comments about the list to ecto-owner@nsmx.rutgers.edu