From: owner-ecto-digest To: ecto-digest@ns2.rutgers.edu Subject: ecto-digest V2 #300 Reply-To: ecto@nsmx.rutgers.edu Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Sunday, 3 December 1995 Volume 02 : Number 300 The Ecto digest is now being generated automatically. Please send problems and questions to: ecto-owner@nsmx.rutgers.edu. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Neal Copperman Date: Fri, 1 Dec 1995 12:52:11 -0500 (EST) Subject: recent sightings Marti Jones and Don Dixon will have been in DC twice in the last month. I guess they were pulled out of inactivity by the lure of doing a Christmas show with friends, and then the chance to play one last time at the 9:30 Club before it closed. Also on this months 9:30 schedule is Michelle SHocked. Is she on some sort of tour now? DOes she have a new album out? The shows on the 20th, I am definitely going, so there is some slight chance that I'll pass on some further info :) Neal ------------------------------ From: AMBS0@smtp.ais.ucla.edu (Hart, Barbara) Date: Fri, 01 Dec 1995 10:19:58 -0800 Subject: non-ecto, howard stern This is totally nonmusical, but since I think Howard Stern is based in New York, I thought maybe you east coasters could help me. I've been sitting in my office building in Westwood (ucla's campus) and watching the line for Howard Stern build. It started yesterday and today wraps around several streets. What's the deal? I've only watched him on E! a few times and he's insulting and demeaning. Why do people find that entertaining? What's so great about him that hundreds of people set up lawn chairs and camp out in front of Borders, just to have their book signed. Is it just LA, or does this happen everywhere he goes? Wondering, in LA, Barb ambs0@smtp.ais.ucla.edu ------------------------------ From: Date: Fri, 1 Dec 1995 10:41:14 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: why am i bringing this up? From sco.sco.com!ns2.rutgers.edu!owner-ecto Fri Dec 1 00:01:33 1995 Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 22:48:03 -0900 From: David Raynor Message-Id: <9512010748.AA11539@ptialaska.net> Subject: Re: why am i bringing this up? To: ecto@ns2.rutgers.edu X-Mailer: AIR Mail 3.X (SPRY, Inc.) Sender: owner-ecto@ns2.rutgers.edu Reply-To: David Raynor hey 80's music aint all bad right?? i mean there were alot of good bands an since youa re a wealth of 80's knowledge=> i got a good q for your encylopedia=> who sang um the song SPIN ME RIGHT ROUND ...it had a chorus that al it said was "you spin me right round baby ...spin me right round " i can't remember an i have a freind that wants to know... it is buggin me....just thought ya might know .. but who knows heheh ...anywas the band who did that song is called dead or alive.... !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! maryb@sco.com x4550 IS Account Manager ------------------------------ From: "32 flavors...and then some" Date: Fri, 1 Dec 1995 14:13:31 -0500 Subject: Re: why am i bringing this up? David Dixon sez: >Did anyone else see the picture in Rolling Stone a few months ago with >Deb[bie/orah] Gibson singing with the Circle Jerks?(!) I wonder what >became of that collaboration. i only know about it cos one of the songs that the circle jerks did with deb was the soft boys' "i wanna destroy you". (the soft boys were robyn hitchcock's old band.) i think there was a clip of that on emptv as well. dunno if anything came out of it though. woj ------------------------------ From: kcd@bull.cray.com (Kevin Dekan {x66440 CF/DEV}) Date: Fri, 1 Dec 1995 13:44:24 -0600 Subject: Re: Sarah McLachlan - interview On Thu, 30 Nov 1995 Sage reported with glee: >> It snowed last night! Hurrah! :^) I am a happy camper. And I was >> looking through some old tapes just now, trying to find one I'd made >> years ago and found something completely unexpected. To which athol-brose responded: > Ah! Lucky, lucky you. It's still waiting to snow here in Cincinnati (well, > more properly, here in Covington, which is where I'm (supposed to be) > working currently. At any rate, over the last few mornings, the amount of > morning car-frost on my coworker's car has increased greatly, and when I got > up it was trying to sleet, but stopped. Well we got plenty of snow up here in Wisconsin this past Sunday nite to satisfy me. I couldn't even get out of my driveway to get to work Monday morn. That was the good part. Shoveling the drift that was up to my knees was the downside. Took me 3 1/2 hours to finally get it cleared away. Gonna get me a snow-blower one of these years... :*) Have to admit it was real pretty watching it come down Sunday nite. Sad to say it's melting now as the temps have warmed up. We had freezing rain on Wed. nite that made the drive to work Thurs. morn a real treat. Anyhoot, no Sarah content here, but I'm looking forward to next Tues. Dec. 5 to pick up Enya's new release, _The Memory of Trees_. I've heard mixed reviews from folks in other parts of the world where it has already been released, but I'll buy it anyway. Seems like an appropriate time for the release of this album. For some reason her music always makes me think of winter. Makes a good Christmas gift too. My Gawd, is that time here already?!? ;-) -Kevin (the unprepared) P.S. Jeff, I saw your post about the possible ecto-gathering late this month in the Twin Cities. Sounds like fun. I'll have to see what the old schedule looks like at this busy time of year. BTW, Cathy mentioned to me yesterday that she has been off the ecto-list for a little while (never fear, she plans on re-subbing soon) so she most likely did not see your post. If you would like, I could let her know. Unless of course you already did. ;-) ------------------------------ From: spanglemaker Date: Fri, 1 Dec 1995 15:11:32 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: World Cafe CD On Thu, 30 Nov 1995 elionwyr@onix.com wrote: > > NH> Martin N writes: > NH> > A recent cd I bought was of all live performances form Aco > NH> > a singer/songwriter radio program in NY. it feautures Tori, The > NH> > Indigo Girls, Sheryl Crow, Melissa Etheridge, Loreena McKennitt > NH> > QUITE impressed me!), Cowboy Junkies, and many more including H > NH> Rhodes.. ki think i missed the expalnation--how could one get this? i am covetous. ------------------------------ From: Neile Graham Date: Fri, 1 Dec 1995 12:17:17 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: non-ecto, howard stern Barbara asked: > front of Borders, just to have their book signed. Is it just LA, or does > this happen everywhere he goes? Well, there was an article in one of our papers about how his book bombed in Seattle (well-known as a book city), so maybe it is just LA. - --Neile ------------------------------ From: David Dixon Date: Fri, 1 Dec 1995 12:52:02 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: I was wondering bout a few good bands??? On Fri, 1 Dec 1995, Neile Graham wrote: > I'm not a huge & Year Bitch fan (I like 'em but don't love 'em) but if I > remember correctly (and that's the band that Kat Bjelland is in, right??) ^^^^^^^^^^^^ This shrieking Kat is a member of Babes In Toyland. D^2 ------------------------------ From: Sue Trowbridge Date: Fri, 1 Dec 1995 15:59:25 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: non-ecto, howard stern On Fri, 1 Dec 1995 Barb (AMBS0@smtp.ais.ucla.edu) wrote: > This is totally nonmusical, but since I think Howard Stern is based in New > York, I thought maybe you east coasters could help me. I've been sitting in > my office building in Westwood (ucla's campus) and watching the line for > Howard Stern build. It started yesterday and today wraps around several > streets. What's the deal? I've only watched him on E! a few times and he's > insulting and demeaning. Why do people find that entertaining? I haven't heard Howard's radio show, although I think it's simulcast to a station here in Baltimore, but I've caught him on a few talk shows, most recently Jay Leno last night (don't worry, I was only flipping channels during the commercial breaks of Letterman! :) ) He had two buxom bikini-clad babes with him and he was directing them to make out, spank each other, etc. The amazing thing was that the camera kept cutting away. I guess the sight of two women kissing is just way too radical for late night TV. > What's so > great about him that hundreds of people set up lawn chairs and camp out in > front of Borders, just to have their book signed. Is it just LA, or does > this happen everywhere he goes? I think he's even more popular in New York, which is where the show originates from. This is just my guess, but I am fairly certain that the core of Howard's appeal is that he doesn't censor himself -- he's like a giant unleashed id, and he says things that his listeners, most of whom are probably lower-middle-class white males stuck in dull jobs, would never dare to say. That openness is undoubtedly very appealing to a lot of people, who can live vicariously through Stern's exploits. The rest of us just find it, well, "insulting and demeaning." It would be interesting to compare Robert Crumb to Stern -- I think the two men share an overwhelming need to express themselves without any censorship or restraint or tact. Of course, the difference is that Crumb is an excellent artist (albeit one whose work I often find very offensive), and Stern just babbles. We now return you to your regularly scheduled Ecto. - --Sue Trowbridge http://www.access.digex.net/~trow/ ------------------------------ From: Neile Graham Date: Fri, 1 Dec 1995 13:09:33 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: I was wondering bout a few good bands??? D^2 corrected me: > > I'm not a huge & Year Bitch fan (I like 'em but don't love 'em) but if I > > remember correctly (and that's the band that Kat Bjelland is in, right??) > > This shrieking Kat is a member of Babes In Toyland. Damn--the book IS on Babes in Toyland. I don't know why I have this block about Babes in Toyland and 7 Year Bitch--ever since I first heard of them I've been getting them mixed up. - --Neile ------------------------------ From: "Matt Bittner" Date: Fri, 1 Dec 1995 15:53:59 -0500 Subject: Request Can someone email me the subscription address for RDT? Thanks. Matt - -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Matthew Bittner WW1 Modeler, ecto subscriber, semi-new dad, meba@cso.com PowerBuilder developer; Omaha, Nebraska Disclaimer: opinions expressed by me are my responsibility only. "some people without brains do an awful lot of talking, don't they?" - the Scarecrow in Wizard of Oz - -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ ------------------------------ From: veronica sawyer Date: Fri, 1 Dec 1995 14:21:04 -0800 (PST) Subject: Heavenly Bodies (was This Mortal Coil (was "Jane!")) ahoy my lovely sailing-ships afloat on the fuzzy blue sea, On Wed, 22 Nov 1995, Michael Doyle wrote: > But while we're on the subject of This Mortal Coil and Dead Can Dance, can > anyone elucidate their relationship to Heavenly Bodies? The C'est La Mort > catalog always described Heavenly Bodies as composed of two members of TMC > and two members of DCD. Which are which and which albums are they on? I'm > particularly interested in the work by Heavenly Bodies' vocalist, Caroline > Seaman. (I know she appeared on Heavenly Voices I with an outfit called > Pupilla). wow, i didn't know any of this. for awhile now i've wondered "what ever happened to..." about Heavenly Bodies. does anyone know where they are now? i really liked _Celestial_, and thought they had a lot of promise. did they even have any other releases? i've never seen any, but given all the toil and trouble it took me to find _Celestial_ i probably wouldn't have seen them even if there had been any. ok you can have the boquet now... chocolate-flavored hugs, veronica ------------------------------ From: mapravat@prairienet.org (Mitchell A. Pravatiner) Date: Fri, 1 Dec 1995 18:25:52 -0600 (CST) Subject: Ectohostel situation wanted I will be traveling to the Washington, DC area at ehe end of the month, and wonder if anyone on the list would be able to put me up for a few days. I would be arriving in town probably not before Friday, the 29th, and would be leaving not later than Monday, the 1st. Between the 27th and my arrival in Washington (exact date still to be determined), I will be visiting New York. (I have a place to stay lined up there, at least I think I do). I look forward to the possibility of seeing ectophiles in both cities. Mitch ------------------------------ From: Paul Cohen Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 22:39:02 -0500 Subject: Re: Beatles Anthology >If you would like to have an album of brand-new Beatles music, pick up an >album called "Meet the Rutles," a mid-'80s parody by Eric Idle and others... As long as we're talking Beatles parody, I'd recommend seeking out the first albuma and EP by the SpongeTones, a North Carolina band that pretty much had the Beatles sound nailed also. Their first album "Beat Music" and the following EP "Torn Apart" have been lovingly reissued as "Beat & Torn" on Black Vinyl Records, the Shoes' label. I can't recommend it highly enough. And don't forget Todd Rundgren's contribution to the genre, Deface The Music by Utopia. Equally essential. If you can forgive them for the pun on the back cover, in which they are pictured standing in a grassy pasture, with the caption "Outstanding in their field". ____Paul Cohen______________King of Prussia, PA___ ____pmcohen@netaxs.com___http://atonce.com/pmc/___ ------------------------------ From: Paul Cohen Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 22:52:14 -0500 Subject: Re: Beatles Anthology >Remember how Phil Spector >destroyed the tapes for what was going to be the "Get Back" album when he >remixed and re-produced them for "Let It Be"? Spector hardly destroyed the album. The project was a total mess when it was handed to Spector and he at least put it into listenable shape. Lennon himself thought Spector did a good job of salvaging something from the tapes. I remember a quote from Lennon that "I didn't puke when I heard the album". ____Paul Cohen______________King of Prussia, PA___ ____pmcohen@netaxs.com___http://atonce.com/pmc/___ ------------------------------ From: Neal Copperman Date: Sat, 2 Dec 1995 00:56:52 -0500 (EST) Subject: shudders Does Meatloaf really cover Tom Waits on his new album ?!? ------------------------------ From: SUZANNE WEISS Date: Fri, 1 Dec 1995 23:25:15 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: remember/forget On Thu, 30 Nov 1995, Kerry White wrote: > Hello, > On Thu, 30 Nov 1995, SUZANNE WEISS wrote: > > > hmmmm... a bonus track for the SDTK I suppose... one song that ended on > > the cutting room floor? ::shakes her head and mutters:: and they let > > Kenny G stay in... > > You forgot to add to,"let Kenny G stay in..." : (shudder,"eeellliggggguh!!!). > followed by a %-( ! ACCCCKKKKKKK!!!!!!! I was THINKING and FEELING IT HONEST!!!! ::laughs:: I really can not listen to the gent... gives me the willies.... ~ Suzanne ------------------------------ From: SUZANNE WEISS Date: Fri, 1 Dec 1995 23:27:54 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: why am i bringing this up? On Thu, 30 Nov 1995, David Raynor wrote: > hey 80's music aint all bad right?? i mean there were alot of good bands an > since youa re a wealth of 80's knowledge=> > i got a good q for your encylopedia=> who sang um the song > SPIN ME RIGHT ROUND > > ...it had a chorus that al it said was "you spin me right round baby ...spin > me right round " i can't remember an i have a freind that wants to know... it > is buggin me....just thought ya might know .. but who knows heheh ...anywas > thanx. the band was "dead or alive" ... still rather big on the club scene I think.... ~ Suzanne ------------------------------ From: jeffw@smoe.org (Jeff Wasilko) Date: Sat, 2 Dec 1995 11:56:24 -0500 (EST) Subject: potential heads up: Jill Sobule on fx Jill is guest-hosting the Fox/fx Morning Show (or at least she was on Wednesday). October Project was the musical guest on Wednesday. The fx Morning Show should be declared the offical morning show of ecto (-: Jeff - -- Jeff @ Home.... "I'll be youah race-cah drivah..." -- Jewel "Pahrk youah race-cah in Havahad Yahd?" -- Anja [smoe] ------------------------------ From: maeldun@i-2000.com (Michael Doyle) Date: Sat, 02 Dec 1995 16:16:58 -0500 Subject: Re: Heavenly Bodies (was This Mortal Coil (was "Jane!")) At 02:21 PM 12/1/95 -0800, veronica sawyer wrote: > for awhile now i've wondered "what ever >happened to..." about Heavenly Bodies. does anyone know where they are >now? i really liked _Celestial_, and thought they had a lot of promise. I was always under the impression that they were a side project and that no other albums were recorded. I just queried Woody at C'est La Mort, though. Perhaps he'll have a tad more information. I already posted all that I know regarding HB. Oh! Except one small thing. In addition to doing vocals for Pupilla, Caroline Seaman is the cover girl on Heavenly Voices (I&II) boxed set. > chocolate-flavored hugs, > veronica Yum! Tschuess, - - Mike Michael Doyle maeldun@i-2000.com =================================================================== "A man of genius makes no mistakes. His errors are volitional and are the portals of discovery." - - James Joyce ------------------------------ From: mp@moonmac.com (Michael Pearce) Date: Sat, 2 Dec 1995 18:38:01 -0800 Subject: Chynna Philips I see she has a post-Wilson Phillips solo album in the stores. Has anyone heard it yet? I would hate to miss out on a good record by just assuming that it is as lite and fluffy as the WP records were. No writer's credits are given on the back of the cd so I can't tell if she wrote all/any of the music. PS: Thanks to whoever posted the pathname to AG's Ambient #2. I went straight to Tower and there it was. I really like it! It has the feel of Enigma's MCMXC without the pretension, and even more bizarre, after playing it I put on Ministry's "Twitch" because it seemed a natural followup. Next: Skinny Puppy. This is _not_ a pattern I follow when playing Happy's own records. 8-) |^^^^^^Please don't add "*@aol.com" to your twit filter. Thank you.^^^^^^| | | | "Give them a light and | http://www.moonmac.com/~mklprc/ | | they'll follow it anywhere!" | mp@moonmac.com | | --Firesign Theatre | michael_pearce@pmug.org | | | \___No Microsoft products were used in the production of this message.___/ ------------------------------ From: Sue Trowbridge Date: Sun, 3 Dec 1995 00:21:25 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Chynna Philips (and a few TV notes) Michael Pearce writes: > I see she has a post-Wilson Phillips solo album in the stores. Has anyone > heard it yet? I would hate to miss out on a good record by just assuming > that it is as lite and fluffy as the WP records were. No writer's credits > are given on the back of the cd so I can't tell if she wrote all/any of the > music. I'm pretty sure she did write at least some of the music, but the song I heard (the title track, "Naked and Sacred") was completely dreadful, not even a good guilty-pleasure poptoon like "Hold On." The song was responsible for a funny typo, though -- the Washington Post ran it as "Naked and Scared" in its upcoming-releases listing. Interested Chynna fans can catch her in a remake of "Bye Bye Birdie" tonight (Sunday). Another TV note: "The Wizard of Oz" will be repeated at 4 p.m. ET Sunday afternoon on the TNT cable channel. And finally, Emmylou Harris is the guest on VH1's CableAce Award-nominated-but-lost-to- "Politically Incorrect" program "Four on the Floor" tomorrow morning at 11:30 ET. - --Sue Trowbridge trow@access.digex.net +++ trow@charm.net http://www.access.digex.net/~trow/ 1995 album of the year: Pavement, WOWEE ZOWEE (but I realize I am very likely the only person on ecto who thinks so) ------------------------------ From: Steve Molla Date: Sun, 03 Dec 1995 10:42:21 -0500 Subject: re: Chynna Phillips Michael Pearce asked about the new Chynna Phillips release: In Friday's local paper here (Dayton, Ohio), they ran a mini-review of this new CD. Here it is in it's entirety... Chynna Phillips - Naced and Sacred (pop) Love songs, nothing but love songs. In her first musical endeavor since Wilson Phillips' demise, Chynna Phillips plumbs the depths of her love on *Naked and Sacred* (EMI). Maybe she's still excited about her marriage into the Baldwin clan. But Billy's wife should learn to quit it with the cheap dramatics (*I Live for You*); just keep her shirt on (*Naked and Sacred*); and invest in a shovel (*Follow Love Down*). However lacking in substance, *Naked and Sacred* is heaped upon with layers of studio shine and polish - - two years worth. At least it's still more effort than Carnie Wilson puts into her TV talk show. Reviewed by Kevin Amorim one star out of four All in all, it sounds like crap. I *loved* the part about the shovel (ha ha!). Anyway, unless someone is a major fan of her music, it looks like one to skip, or at best, look for in the used CD bin in a couple of months for $3-4. steve ------------------------------ End of ecto-digest V2 #300 ************************** ======================================================================== Please send any questions or comments about the list to ecto-owner@nsmx.rutgers.edu