From: owner-ecto-digest To: ecto-digest@ns2.rutgers.edu Subject: ecto-digest V2 #245 Reply-To: ecto@nsmx.rutgers.edu Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Tuesday, 10 October 1995 Volume 02 : Number 245 The Ecto digest is now being generated automatically. Please send problems and questions to: ecto-owner@nsmx.rutgers.edu. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Neal Copperman Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 02:40:55 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Live Lisa - WOW! I just got back from the Lisa Gerrard show at Gaston Hall on Georgetown University, and I must say it was a stunning affair. Gaston Hall is an ornate, small hall, perfect for Lisa and her ensemble. I'm not a big DCD fan, and haven't heard her solo album, so I was completely taken back by the strength and range of her voice. Somehow I had gotten it into my head that it was kind of shrill, but if that's the case on any of the albums, it certainly wasn't so live. I had no idea she had such a powerful deep voice. I thought the show got off to kind of a slow start. After an intriguing group hum, all the songs seemed to be of the same stately tempo, with Lisa accompanied by her 6 man band playing bland and uninteresting synthesizers (harpsichord and poor sounding orchestrations). The tempo picked up as Lisa took to hammered dulcimer for the first of what turned out to be continuous high points. This song was marred by technical and tuning problems, but it marked the turning point of the show. From here on out I was totally dumbstruck. (Too bad the guy sitting next to me wasn't!) The synths were abandoned for an array of percussion instruments, wooden flutes, bouzuki (?), and Lisa's hammered dulcimer (in 2 different tunings). While Lisa's voice was always strong and impressive, I felt her presentation was kind of cold and academic. It didn't matter as the interplay of voices and instruments led to results that sent shivers up my spine and echoed around in my stomach. (I don't think it was just because the hall was freezing and I hadn't eaten dinner either.) The music swelled and shifted and constantly lifted me up to another level entirely. Rarely have I been so transported by a performance. After the main set, the small crowd gave her a rousing standing ovation, with the applause continuing enthusiastically longer than any ovation I'd heard, easily 15 or 20 minutes. The brief encore was slower and less intense, sliding us back down from the heights the earlier music had taken us to. Despite my few complaints above, this may well have been my favorite concert this year (right now it's neck and neck with the Sarah/Paula Cole show). Oh yeah, there was also a very long drum solo where the percussionist did more with a bodhran than I ever would have dreamed possible. (My friend thought it was a bit boring and long, but I was stunned.) Definitely a must see show. Now I'll have to run out and get the album for a bit of a comparison. (Jeff, what did you and your family think?) Neal ------------------------------ From: ptv@rtp.scm-metals.com (Patrick Varker) Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 07:47:52 -0400 Subject: Upcoming musical guest's I really miss Sue's postings of the upcoming musical guest's!!! Patrick ------------------------------ From: jeffy@wam.umd.edu Date: Mon, 09 Oct 95 11:00:40 -0400 Subject: Lisa Gerard in DC Not much to add to what Neal said about the show last night. Gaston Hall is always a fun place to see shows, and particularly apt for the shows I happen to have seen there. I took my dad to the show for his birthday, and he was pretty much blown away by it. Dad has a couple of DCD albums and is very fond of them, but I don't think he was expecting what he got -- Lisa Gerard's unbelievably powerful voice. He was a little put off by Gerard's stage persona, which is rather cold. I'm not sure how much of that is concentration. He also noted that she seemed rather frustrated with the crew. As Neal pointed out, they were plagued with tuning problems, particularly with an 8-string guitar-ish instrument (bouzuki? balalaika? something else entirely?). During one song in the middle of the show, Lisa looked over to the lead synth player and said, "something's wrong," sotto voce, but audible from the front row (ahhhhh... ;-). He pointed over to the stringed instrument at which point the song came to a crashing halt while the player retuned his instrument, after which he said, "My fault" and Lisa apologized to the audience. After that, before every song using that instrument, the player would leave the stage with his electronic tuner. I'm not sure why the thing was so incapable of holding a tune for more than 5 or 7 minutes, but it did seem to be covered with a bunch of electrical tape on one side! Neal noted on the long ovation between the main set and the encore. It's worth noting that they carried off one of Lisa's dulcimers (hey, woj, what are those things called again?) so it's likely that one reason for the long delay was to retune it (yeah, it was carried back on stage after the delay). As Neal has said, the bohdran solo was mindboggling. The percussionist for the subdudes may think he's pretty nifty for the things he pulls off with a single tambourine, but he should take lessons from Lisa's percussionist. This guy was *unreal*. I've heard plenty of bohdran playing, live and recorded, and I've never heard one played quite like this! Definitely a way cool show. Jeff |Jeffrey C. Burka | "When I look in the mirror, I see a little clearer/ | | | I am what I am and you are you too./ Do you like | |jeffy@wam.umd.edu | what you see? Do you like yourself?" --N. Cherry | ------------------------------ From: "jeffrey hanson" Date: Mon, 09 Oct 95 10:08:46 cdt Subject: Mari Boine I know I tend to rave about almost every concert I go to, but it seems like I've been to a lot of good shows lately. But last nights Mari Boine show was truly spectacular. I was quite impressed--enough to buy two of her CDs after the show. (I would have bought her 3rd, Guli Guli (sp?), the only one released in the US, but for some reason they only had this available in vinyl at the show). Mari is a Sami from Samiland--a region of the Artic Circle above Norway. She was introduced by an older Wisconsin Native American woman who talked of the plight of indigenous people all over the world, and how impressed she was with Mari when she first heard her. The woman was quite interesting and quite funny. She said that if she could sing, she wished she could sing with the same compassion and strength that Mari sings with, but when she sings she sounds like one of those frogs on the Bud commercials and who'd want to spend an evening listening to "Bud.... Bud.... Bud" The impressive thing about Mari's show was the extreme musicianship of each and every member of her band. The mix of instruments was also quite unique. I've always been fond of Native American music--but usually find it gets a little repetitious after a while. This didn't. She combines flutes, bass guitar, drums & percussion, guitar, and electric violin with her incredible vocals. Not since seeing Renaissance many years ago have I seen such an incredible band. The bass player in particular was amazing--doing a 10-minute bass solo in one of the songs about half-way through the show that climaxed into an incredibly energetic jamming song, with Mari's voice carrying above it all. This song was definitely the high point of the show--afterwards they slowed things down a bit and never captured the energy of this song again. Mari had a great stage persona as well, and she did her best to translate the song titles and meanings of the various songs. After the show, which was sponsored with the help of the Norwegian consulate, they had a reception with an excellent Norwegian torte made with fresh strawberries and coffee. What a way to top off an excellent show. I'm not sure how widely she's touring--this seemed to be quite a special event, but if you ever get a chance to hear or see her, take it. You won't be disappointed. Jeff Hanson ------------------------------ From: Sue Trowbridge Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 11:21:21 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Upcoming musical guests On Mon, 9 Oct 1995, Patrick Varker wrote: > I really miss Sue's postings of the upcoming musical guests!!! Apologies, Patrick (and everyone else who enjoys getting the line-ups). I realize that the listing tends to be kinda sporadic. LATE SHOW WITH DAVID LETTERMAN, CBS Mo 10/9 Aretha Franklin (rerun of 9/7/94) Tu 10/10 Barry Manilow (rerun of 10/10/94) We 10/11 Boyz II Men (rerun of 10/11/94) Th 10/12 Carole King and Slash (rerun of 9/27/94) Fr 10/13 Marshall Crenshaw (rerun of 9/15/94) Tu 10/17 The Mavericks We 10/18 Rusted Root Th 10/19 Oasis Fr 10/20 Steely Dan THE TONIGHT SHOW WITH JAY LENO, NBC Mo 10/9 Tim McGraw Tu 10/10 Chris Isaak We 10/11 Tears for Fears Th 10/12 Jimmy Buffett Fr 10/13 Boy George LATE LATE SHOW WITH TOM SNYDER, CBS Mo 10/9 Naomi Judd Fr 10/13 Itzhak Perlman LATE NIGHT WITH CONAN O'BRIEN, NBC Tu 10/10 Edwyn Collins We 10/11 Joe Ely Th 10/12 P.J. Harvey Tu 10/17 Jon Secada, Shane McGowan (rerun of 8/8/95) Th 10/19 Kiss (rerun of 8/4/95) LATER WITH GREG KINNEAR, NBC Tu 10/10 David Sanborn - --Sue Trowbridge trow@access.digex.net +++ trow@charm.net http://www.access.digex.net/~trow/ Album of the month: Heather Nova, OYSTER ------------------------------ From: SBI!200HUBBARD!AMYD@lmbinc.attmail.com Date: Mon, 09 Oct 1995 13:19:00 +0000 Subject: boo! Just poking my head out for a moment to comment on MJM's commentary on Harry Nillson..... Actually, I should be doing this from my other account - being the Red Guitar Girl and all... but I'm on lunch so here goes: Harry Nillson was (he passed away just last year) noted for being a pop-song creator, singer, and very close friend of the late, great John Lennon. Harry wrote songs for other people, jingles, television theme songs (the theme from "Courtship of Eddie's Father" which I suspect you've never seen having grown up in Canada....). I would suppose liking his material is a matter of "taste" - if you like jangly, somewhat light pop songs (which I do) you would then appreciate his work. I am glad you made a post about that disc because I've yet to pick it up.... I WILL run out and get it because not only is Aimee's cover on it, but so is one by one of my favorite bands JELLYFISH! One of Harry's biggest "hits" was with a tune called "Without You" (later covered by M. Carey) which was actually written by the band Badfinger (this great band from the 70's that at one time was signed to the infamous Apple Records). Then, of course, there is the tune "One" which was made into a hit by Three Dog Night. When Nillson was "on" with his writing, his songs were simple, poingant and well executed. When he wasn't, they could be kind of dumb. But one thing is certain - the man's influence on various and sundry modern popsters cannot be denied. He is one of those artist that comes up in conversation with present day musicians that draw much influence from 70's music (I guess he would be filed in the same category as bands like Badfinger, and The Rasperries). Anyway.... hope that was of some help. amy (slacking off in my ectoreading...) ------------------------------ From: David Dixon Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 11:15:26 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Wrecking Ball Has anyone else picked up this wonderful new album by Emmylou Harris? It's wonderful! Thanks are due in part to the producer, Daniel Lanois, who's most famous for producing the last few U2 albums (his solo albums _Acadie_ and _For the Beauty of Wynona_ are splendid as well). It's shimmering and raw and not what you'd expect from a "country" artist at all! I mean, how many country artists do you know of that can cover Bob Dylan, Jimi Hendrix and Neil Young on a single album and pull it off? A Sissy Hankshaw-sized thumbs up from this reporter. D^2 ------------------------------ From: maeldun@i-2000.com (Michael Doyle) Date: Mon, 09 Oct 1995 17:59:22 -0400 Subject: Re: Wrecking Ball At 11:15 AM 10/9/95 -0700, David Dixon wrote: >Has anyone else picked up this wonderful new album by Emmylou Harris? Not yet. >It's wonderful! Fantastic! I heard one track off of the album last month and I wasn't too impressed. But everyone seems to be raving about it, so I'm encouraged. > It's >shimmering and raw and not what you'd expect from a "country" artist at >all! I mean, how many country artists do you know of that can cover Bob >Dylan, Jimi Hendrix and Neil Young on a single album and pull it off? Courage of Lassie or Cowboy Junkies probably could, but they're borderline country. No-one in mainstream country could. Emmylou Harris happens to be my absolute top-of-the-heap favorite female country vocalist - and one of my favorite vocalists overall - even though I don't own a single one of her albums. It's good to hear good things about her new work. I knew there had to be some Emmylou fans here on ecto. - - Mike Michael Doyle maeldun@i-2000.com =================================================================== "You're not anybody in America unless you're on TV." - - Suzanne Stone, TO DIE FOR ------------------------------ From: Neile Graham Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 15:20:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Mari Boine On Mon, 9 Oct 1995, jeffrey hanson wrote: > I know I tend to rave about almost every concert I go to, but it seems > like I've been to a lot of good shows lately. But last nights Mari > Boine show was truly spectacular. I was quite impressed--enough to > buy two of her CDs after the show. (I would have bought her 3rd, Guli > Guli (sp?), the only one released in the US, but for some reason they > only had this available in vinyl at the show). I'm so jealous--I would love to hear her live. I adore the three discs of hers I've got (with many thanks to Jens for getting the two non-US-released ones for me). Which were the two discs she has with her? _Eaglebrother_ (in Sami _Goaskinviellja_ and in Swedish, I think, _Ornesbror_) and _Leahkastin_? I know she has some pre-_Gula Gula_ recordings, though I don't know if they're available on disc on not. If you're looking for _Gula Gula_ it might help to know that at the time she recorded it, she did so under the name Mari Boine Persen. It's a Realworld disc so it should be readily available here. - --Neile neile@u.washington.edu ------------------------------ From: kerry white Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 18:43:01 -0500 (CDT) Subject: simularities Hello, This one's for the 'older' philes out there in Ecto[your term here]. The beginning to Enya's Oronoco(sp?offtophead) Flow and Andy Williams' Can't Get Used to Losing You. Finger-plucked violin in that cadence. I don't own AW Can't but it echos down the canyons of...oh, you know the rest! !eyB KrW "They said it couldn't be done but sometimes that doesn't work either" ------------------------------ From: David Koehler Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 16:54:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: farewell Goodbye everyone. I must leave the list since I am too busy to keep up with the volume. Maybe I'll be able to re-join some months or years from now, I don't know. It's been fuzzy and fun. :-) - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ David R. Koehler "Just being alive -- drk@leland.stanford.edu it can really hurt" Kate Bush - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ From: Philip Sainty Date: Tue, 10 Oct 1995 16:19:51 +1300 Subject: Re: Black specks on CD surface? :/ Okay, some more on my problem... I showed the disc to a friend who observed that each speck had a corresponding mark on the label-side of the disc. He then held it up to the light, and found that the marks seemed to be holes in the label surface, as light was visible through them, although they appear black when looking from the shiny side. Later, while peering closely at the label side, I noticed a faint 'cloudyness' on it, and tried wiping it... whatever it was smudged, so I carried on wiping and I was able to (hopefully) clean it all away. All I can think of at the moment is it was mildew, or something like that, which attacked the label side of the disc, and ate these tiny holes in it which appeared as black specks from the playable side. I've not yet noticed any problem playing the disc, but I've not had a chance to sit down and concentrate on just listening to it for glitches... at least it doesn't skip... Again, if anyone has any comments on all this I'd appreciate them! Philip _ _ ___ _ _ _ (_ / | / \ |_) |_| | | (_ Philip Sainty (_ \_ | \_/ | | | | |_ (_ ectophil@comp.vuw.ac.nz - -------------------------------------------------------------- "This is where I want to be, this is what I need." --Kate Bush ------------------------------ From: Neal Copperman Date: Tue, 10 Oct 1995 00:38:08 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Black specks on CD surface? :/ I know in early disc pressing there were a lot more faults in the process, and a lot more pin prick holes. These generally don't cause any problem in players, particularly newer ones. But if you pick up old discs and hold them to the light, you will see a bunch of these holes. If you try it with new discs, there will be very few of them. I even have one disc (and I've never seen another like it) that doesn't seem to have as thick a metallic section in the middle. You can actually read the song titles from the non-label side. It's also riddled with pinholes, and plays fine. It's been that way for (sudden shock at how old I am and how long I've been buying discs!!!) about 10 years. Neal ------------------------------ From: Mike Matthews Date: Tue, 10 Oct 1995 00:15:07 -0400 Subject: Today's your birthday, friend... i*i*i*i*i*i i*i*i*i*i*i *************** *****HAPPY********* **************BIRTHDAY********* *************************************************** *************************************************************************** ****************** Michael C. Berch (mcb@postmodern.com) ****************** *************************************************************************** -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Michael C. Berch Wed October 10 1956 No parking Wolfgang Drotschmann Thu October 13 1966 Waage Brian Bloom Tue October 14 1969 spam Erik N. Johnson Tue October 16 1962 Handle with Care Kim Klouda Tue October 17 1967 Libra Dave Steiner Sat October 24 1959 Scorpio Jessica Koeppel Wed October 29 1969 Scorpio Kathy Clark Sat November 01 1969 Bunnies Katie Dougiamas Sat November 02 1974 Scorpio Anthony Horan Fri November 04 1966 Positive Michael Sullivan Mon November 05 1962 Scorpio Jens Brage Sun November 08 1964 Scorpio Rising Lynn Garrett Sat November 08 1958 Scorpio Sam Murgie Fri November 08 1957 Scorpio - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ------------------------------ From: Dan Stark Date: Tue, 10 Oct 1995 00:42:19 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Wrecking Ball On Mon, 9 Oct 1995, David Dixon wrote: > Has anyone else picked up this wonderful new album by Emmylou Harris? > It's wonderful! Thanks are due in part to the producer, Daniel Lanois, > who's most famous for producing the last few U2 albums (his solo albums > _Acadie_ and _For the Beauty of Wynona_ are splendid as well). It's > shimmering and raw and not what you'd expect from a "country" artist at > all! I mean, how many country artists do you know of that can cover Bob > Dylan, Jimi Hendrix and Neil Young on a single album and pull it off? I was going to mention this too. I've only heard a bit of it, and couldn't believe who I was listening to! I doubt it will be a hit with the country crowd, but I like what I've heard. - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- DAN STARK ***NOTE*** dstark@freenet.npiec.on.ca ~\\|//~ NEW E-MAIL ADDRESS St. Catharines, Ontario, Canada -(o o)- NOW IN EFFECT! - --------------------------------------------o000o--(_)--o000o---------------- ------------------------------ From: "Stuart P. Myerburg" Date: Tue, 10 Oct 1995 00:58:09 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Bowie/NIN Brad wrote: > The Bowie concert didn't shed any light whatsoever about his (and > Eno's) intentions for writing _Outside_. In fact, I wonder what most of > the props on stage were for . . . There were five maniquens (SP?) three on > a small stage, two floating about the back stageright side of the stage. > There were two large signs "Listen to the limbs" and another that had > something about hands on it. There was a table, a few chairs and a soft > sculpture figure that dropped down at a point during the show. Having seen > his "farewell to my old songs" tour, I'd expected that he'd be more > "multimedia" and that the show would be a little more directed toward the > new album. He did most of the songs off the album, in and order other than > that of the album, as well as "Andy Warhol," the Queen/Bowie song "Under > Pressure," "Scarey Monsters," and two others that I didn't recognise. Besides the stuff from _Outside_, here in Atlanta he performed "Subterraneans," "Scary Monsters," "Look Back in Anger," "Breaking Glass," "Joe the Lion," "Andy Warhol," "The Man Who Sold the World," "Teenage Wildlife," "Nite Flights," and "Under Pressure." > There were some surprises (such as his singing with Trent Reznor or Trent > Reznor singing with him. . .) and the base player--a bald woman who had a > wonderful voice and played so very well. Of course, I didn't her name > because my ears weren't working very well (NIN is very loud. . .). So, if > anyone else goes to see this, please try to get her name--she was > fantastic. She was great. Her duet on "Under Pressure" was one of the highlights of the show, the other being Bowie's utterly amazing performance of "Andy Warhol." Unfortunately, I noted her name at the time and have already forgotten it. :-) > I liked both NIN and Bowie (but Prick was as bad as their name > IMHO). Though, it might be my age, Bowie seemed the better performer than > Reznor. When they were both on stage, Bowie commanded presence by just > standing (there and walking to the back of the stage while Reznor thrashed > about) and Reznor seemed to need lots of thrashing falling and smashing to > get similar effects. I'm a fan of both NIN and Bowie. But I couldn't help wishing I could just see Bowie without NIN. Thankfully, the duets didn't last for very long. To me, they felt contrived and Trent seemed outclassed. However, I know I was in the minority. Most of the audience were NIN fans who were going wild when Trent was on stage. As soon as he left for good and David Bowie was left to perform his entire set, they all sat down and looked bored. It really ruined the concert for me. The only time there was any reaction from the crowd during Bowie's set was when he performed "Under Pressure." Even "The Man Who Sold the World" got a lukewarm reaction. I know there were people in the audience thinking, "His version of this song isn't nearly as good as Nirvana's original." *sigh* Now, I would like to see David Bowie when I'm surrounded by people who actually appreciate and know his work. > I just wish Bowie had used the props and given some more clues as > to what he and Eno are up to. Perhaps this was a night he decided to throw > out the story and just perform? I'd like to hear what other folks saw as > the tour continues. He did the same thing at the performance I saw. And, from what I've heard, that's what he's been doing at all of the shows. To be quite honest, I'm glad he's not concentrating too much on the story. I think _Outside_ is the best thing he's done in ages, but the "plot" is just plain silly. I've been ignoring it (and skipping over the narration on the CD) and just paying attention to the music. However, I'm sure the story will be explained further in video and over the next two albums in the trilogy. Stuart ------------------------------ From: Marion Kippers Date: Tue, 10 Oct 1995 12:32:54 +0100 Subject: Guitar tabs for Happy's songs? And: Happyvangelizing Hi all, I'll start with a question: my boyfriend is trying to learn how to play the (acoustic) guitar, and as he's very impressed by Happy's songs he would like to know if there are any guitar tabs (is that what it's called? [simple] chord schemes etc for guitar?) for any of Happy's music. I couldn't find any in the Ecto archives. So does anybody have any? Thanks! And something I just would like to share... My boyfriend (since about 4 months) has quite a broad taste in music, ranging from Phil Collins and Dire Straits to Zap Mama and Varttina, but he's not all that familiar with that many artists. So I'm trying to 'educate' him a little bit, playing him my favourite ectophile CD's. So far he likes most of them, especially Sarah - only Tori didn't impress him all that much yet. So, a couple of weeks ago I played "Building the Colossus", without saying anything. He likes Kate Bush, and while he didn't say anything, after about 5 songs he couldn't hold his curiosity any longer, and he tried to get the CD-booklet without me noticing it. :) Of course he couldn't find what he wanted to know, so he said: 'I give up. One of them is Kate Bush, but who are the other two???' :-) He was sure he had heard a man singing in 'that first song' ("Hold me"), and then another voice in the middle range. When I explained to him that it's all Happy that he's hearing, he was totally impressed (as he should be), and he's become quite a fan in a short while, now trying to Happy- vangelize other people as well. :) He wonders why she isn't more popular than she is, why so few people know about her, and why she's never played on the radio, especially in Europe. He thinks she could be 'very big'. :) So now I would like to know, did Happy ever think of promoting her albums outside the USA? (Apart from us Happy- vangelizing Ectophiles who sometimes have success - a CD store in Utrecht now has "Building the colossus" in stock!) Is it a matter of money? What could _we_ do? Best wishes, Marion ______________________________________________________________ Marion Kippers Wolters Kluwer Academic Publishers Automation Department Dordrecht, The Netherlands Marion.Kippers@wkap.nl "Leave the shadows dancing..." (OP) ______________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ End of ecto-digest V2 #245 ************************** ======================================================================== Please send any questions or comments about the list to ecto-owner@nsmx.rutgers.edu