From: owner-ecto-digest To: ecto-digest@ns2.rutgers.edu Subject: ecto-digest V2 #244 Reply-To: ecto@nsmx.rutgers.edu Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Monday, 9 October 1995 Volume 02 : Number 244 The Ecto digest is now being generated automatically. Please send problems and questions to: ecto-owner@nsmx.rutgers.edu. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dan Stark Date: Fri, 6 Oct 1995 20:33:03 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Duets I don't know if anyone has mentioned this, but Melissa Etheridge will be taping a show for VH-1 next week (Oct. 10th?) called "Duets". She will host, and play songs with guests including Jewel, Sophie B. Hawkins and Joan Osbourne. I'm not sure of the air date yet, but will let you know when I hear, or maybe someone else here can do likewise. Cheers! Dan - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- DAN STARK ***NOTE*** dstark@freenet.npiec.on.ca ~\\|//~ NEW E-MAIL ADDRESS St. Catharines, Ontario, Canada -(o o)- NOW IN EFFECT! - --------------------------------------------o000o--(_)--o000o---------------- ------------------------------ From: Date: 06 Oct 95 20:50:11 EDT Subject: encomium um, yeah, this is pretty horrible... - -mjm ------------------------------ From: anthony@xymox.apana.org.au (Anthony Horan) Date: Sat, 7 Oct 95 18:17:31 EDT Subject: Re: Black specks on CD surface? :/ >> Incidentally, it's unlikely that PDO would have pressed the Kate Bush CD >> (EMI have their own plants in the UK and Europe). > >Well the information I could find about the disc was: > >CDKBVOL1 CDP7952382 } on the CD 'booklet' (just a folded >BIEM/MCPS } piece of card with four 'pages') >MADE IN UK LC0542 } > >CDP7952382 AR4 : 3 : 1 } on the disc itself >EMI SWINDON } That's almost certainly pressed by EMI's plant in, not surprisingly, Swindon in the UK. Bear in mind that EMI's Australian plant (D.A.T.A.) often use glass masters from the UK plant, so while they appear to be UK-made, they're actually Australian. The giveaway is the DATA logo on the label. >Presumably CDP7952382 is the catalogue number, (with CBKBVOL1 being some >sort of alternative) Correct; most UK releases get a secondary catalogue number, apparently to make it "stand out" to retailers ordering the disc. The CDP number is EMI's worldwide catalogue number for the disc. >I don't know what the BIEM/MCPS, the LC0542, or the AR4 : 3 : 1 bits are. BIEM/MCPS are European publishing rights organisations, like AMCOS in Australia. >I assume Swindon is where EMI's pressing plant is. Hey, you're right! :-) >I don't suppose this is of much help, especially as it would seem that >PDO weren't involved, but I'm hopeful that something will turn up... I'll try and get an address and/or phone number for EMI Swindon if you like; or maybe someone with a UK phone book could help? - - Anthony in fact-finding mode - -- - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Anthony Horan, Melbourne Australia - anthony@xymox.apana.org.au http://daemon.apana.org.au/~anthony/ Physical mail: P.O. Box 40, Malvern 3144, Victoria, Australia "The red sky was bleeding glimpses of heaven, in sections of seven..." - Rose Chronicles reaching lyrical perfection on "Awaiting Eternity" - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: basil@naxs.com (Brad Hutchinson) Date: Sat, 7 Oct 1995 10:17:10 -0600 Subject: Bowie in Chapel Hill Well, I'm intrigued enough by Bowie's _Outside_ to actually go see him in concert. This will be my second concert in two years--here in our corner of the world, very few concerts I'd like to see show up. The last one I went to was Laurie Anderson and it was in Asheville, NC. I suspect that tonight's show will be a bit different. Strangeness is a good enough reason to spend this much money on tickets, right? And, a really good old friend of mine is in grad school in Chapel Hill and he's scoped out all the used book stores for me. . . Justifications abound like gambling calves in the field across the way. Anyway--any other ectophiles going to go to this show in Chaple Hill tonight? If so, I'd love to meet you. My friend John's phone number is (919) WOW PONY. I can't ever remember the numbers for that one :) Leave a message or talk to us if we're there. If John answers and I haven't arrived yet, tell him that you're from ecto and that you're going to night etcetera. He'll understand since I often share my new cd's with him--always with a "suggested by X on ecto" tag line. Take care all-- brad Accuracy of observation is the equivalent of accuracy of thinking. - --Wallace Stevens bhutchin@pen.k12.va.us ------------------------------ From: Dirk Kastens Date: Sat, 7 Oct 1995 19:53:37 +0100 (NFT) Subject: Tears For Fears Hi, I bought the new Tears For Fears album "Raoul and the Kings of Spain" today and listened to it over and over. It's excellent! It sounds very much like Seeds of Love and contains some wonderful ballads with acoustic guitar or piano. Oleta Adams is guest vocalist on one track. All tracks are written by Roland Orzabal and Alan Griffith. Curt Smith isn't joining the group again. While I'm writing this, I'm listening to the new Toto album "Tambu" which is also fantastic. As I've heard, this is definitely the last Toto album. They only had to meet the demands of the record company to release another album. Steve Lukather is concentrating on his Lobotomy band project. I don't know what the others are going to do in the future. (Isn't it worrying that every second album is being released on Sony Music (like these two)?) Last week I found Julia Fordham's Falling Forward in a bargain counter and I like it very much. Maybe better than Porcelain and Swept. Dirk Kastens _______________Dirk.Kastens@rz.Uni-Osnabrueck.DE Universitaet Osnabrueck Phone: +49/541/969-2347 Rechenzentrum Fax: +49/541/969-2470 Albrechtstr. 28 49069 Osnabrueck Germany ------------------------------ From: jessica Date: Sat, 7 Oct 1995 19:28:14 GMT Subject: question someone here is sure to know.. what band did michael mcdonald sing in? thanks --jessica ------------------------------ From: Michael Colford Date: Sat, 7 Oct 1995 16:40:31 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: question On Sat, 7 Oct 1995, jessica wrote: > someone here is sure to know.. what band did michael mcdonald sing in? > thanks > --jessica The Doobie Brothers -------------------------------------------------------------------- Michael Colford | Reading Public Library | Reading, Massachusetts colford@noble.mass.edu | *North of Boston Library Exchange* -------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: ItsyBitsyS@aol.com Date: Sat, 7 Oct 1995 19:13:19 -0400 Subject: Sophie B Hawkins The woman is queer, her concerts are "out"standing (I've read). "I lay by the ocean making love to her," pretty hard to miss. I am a big fan of Sophie B. Hawkins, Tongues and Tails was some of my first ecto music, along with Little Earthquakes and (of course!) Happy's Ecto. Oh yeah, for those of you who read your mail more frequently I'm answering a really old question in regards to Ms. Hawkins sexuality. I also have a question. I saw this ad on T.V. and I thought they said that Sophie was gonna be a guest on one of the late night talk shows Monday at 10pm. It's that new woman who seems to have character coming out her kazoo (the host), but I can't recall her name. Can anybody help me? Did I hear right? Let me take a moment to plug Sophie, she's the only person who's love songs I can stand. I tend to hate love songs, and that's just about all she sings and all her songs get me high. Her lyrics are very raw and real and passionate and spiritual and I have become addicted to her style of music. All that wild percussion and those funny sounds and city synth and that sexy voice. Whatever she's doin' it works for me. I haven't bought Whaler yet (Argh) but it's definately next on my list, I desperately want it everytime they play her video on VH1, "As I lay me down" I think. Kisses Shelly (who just turned 18 and is scared poopless) ------------------------------ From: "valerie kraemer" Date: Sat, 7 Oct 1995 16:00:23 +0000 Subject: Alanis A friend of mine just sent me this little bit of news about Alanis Morrissette that came, I think, from the MTV page on AOL. I was somewhat hesitant about posting this because I don't really want to take part in all of the Alanis bashing. I thought her CD was somewhat of a novelty at first, but it seems to hold up after repeated listenings. I put it on just this evening, in fact, whilst cleaning the bathtub. Anyway, from MTV and AOL: Alanis Morrissette tops this weeks Billboard chart with her US debut albut "Jagged Little Pill." And now that she's a star with a tough chick image, Morrissette and her record company would like too make sure that no one hears the two Paula Abdul-like pop albums she made in her native Canada when she was a teen starlet. MCA is halting US distribution of those two records ("Alanis" and "Now Is the Time") . Says an MCA executive, "We've got a career going here that has nothing to do with those early albums. Alanis doesn't want them on the street here, and neither do we" Morrissette herself has relocated from the great white north to the balmier environs of Los Angeles, where she's been getting an education in the ways of the record business. And, by the way, what are other people's favorite housecleaning (or cooking) CD's? Valerie Kraemer ------------------------------ From: ariel_b@pipeline.com (Ariel Brennan) Date: Sat, 7 Oct 1995 23:11:43 -0400 Subject: Re: Sophie B Hawkins On Oct 07, 1995 19:13:19, 'ItsyBitsyS@aol.com' wrote: >The woman is queer, her concerts are "out"standing (I've read). "I lay by the >ocean making love to her," pretty hard to miss. Incorrect. According to Sophie, she is "omnisexual", which, in regualar speak, roughly translates to bisexual. As for her ocean line, it's usually interpreted as making love to the ocean. But I don't know that that interpretation isn't wrong. :) >I am a big fan of Sophie B. >Hawkins, Tongues and Tails was some of my first ecto music, along with Little >Earthquakes and (of course!) Happy's Ecto. Sophie's great... I should listen to her more often. >Let me take a moment to plug Sophie, she's the only >person who's love songs I can stand. I tend to hate love songs, and that's >just about all she sings and all her songs get me high. Plugging Sophie is a good call, IMO. I love love songs in general, but Sophies are among the best. >I haven't bought >Whaler yet (Argh) but it's definately next on my list, I desperately want it >everytime they play her video on VH1, "As I lay me down" I think. Ah! Get Whaler! It's wonderful! - -Ariel ------------------------------ From: jeffw@triple-i.com (Jeff Wasilko) Date: Sat, 7 Oct 1995 21:58:02 -0700 Subject: Over The Rhine's debut (Till We Have Faces) re-released! While looking around Wax Trax in Denver (3 great record stores in one block in Denver--thanks for the tip, Jeffy!) I found a copy of Over The Rhine's debut (Till We Have Faces). It's been very hard (nee impossibile) to find, but apparently IRS Records decided to re-release it. The CD includes 2 live tracks, and 2 previously unreleased songs. Here's the track listing: Eyes Wide Open Someday Like a Radio Iron Curtain Cast Me Away And Can It Be Gentle Wounds L.A.R. Reprise If I'm Drowning Sea & Sky Fly Dance (Live) Paul & Virginia Ubiquitous Hands The Genius of Water Radio Coda (Live) Downfall - -Jeff - -- Jeff Wasilko, Systems Rep, Information International Inc. +1 617 937 9400x204 (jeffw@triple-i.com) Pager: +1 800 759 8888 pin 507-9658 ------------------------------ From: Kevin John Contzen Date: Sat, 7 Oct 1995 21:06:03 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: housecleaning cd's > And, by the way, what are other people's favorite housecleaning (or > cooking) CD's? > > Valerie Kraemer I usually listen to dance compilations for housekeeping. (containing stuff like "right in the night", "dreamer", "no more i love you's" (dance remix wow!)).. high energy, fast beat stuff that makes me move more quickly, and thus get the housework done in the minimum time:)... kevin ------------------------------ From: Mike Matthews Date: Sun, 8 Oct 1995 00:15:07 -0400 Subject: Today's your birthday, friends... i*i*i*i*i*i i*i*i*i*i*i *************** *****HAPPY********* **************BIRTHDAY********* *************************************************** *************************************************************************** ****************** Dan Riley (dsr@lns598.tn.cornell.edu) ****************** ****************** Neile Graham (neile@u.washington.edu) ****************** ************ Quenby M. Chunco (v115p8d6@ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu) ************* ********************* Mike Garland (garland@pic.net) ********************** *************************************************************************** -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Dan Riley Sun October 08 1961 Libra Neile Graham Wed October 08 1958 pen Quenby M. Chunco Tue October 08 1968 Crunchy Frog Mike Garland Wed October 08 1952 Creature_of_the_Night Michael C. Berch Wed October 10 1956 No parking Wolfgang Drotschmann Thu October 13 1966 Waage Brian Bloom Tue October 14 1969 spam Erik N. Johnson Tue October 16 1962 Handle with Care Kim Klouda Tue October 17 1967 Libra Dave Steiner Sat October 24 1959 Scorpio Jessica Koeppel Wed October 29 1969 Scorpio Kathy Clark Sat November 01 1969 Bunnies Katie Dougiamas Sat November 02 1974 Scorpio Anthony Horan Fri November 04 1966 Positive Michael Sullivan Mon November 05 1962 Scorpio Jens Brage Sun November 08 1964 Scorpio Rising Lynn Garrett Sat November 08 1958 Scorpio Sam Murgie Fri November 08 1957 Scorpio - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ------------------------------ From: ariel_b@pipeline.com (Ariel Brennan) Date: Sun, 8 Oct 1995 09:13:34 -0400 Subject: Re: Sophie B Hawkins On Oct 07, 1995 21:10:53, 'Kevin John Contzen ' wrote: >"Queer" generally includes bisexuals... :) Really? I was unaware of that. Add point to my knowledge book. :) - -A ------------------------------ From: klaus@inphobos.wupper.de Date: Sun, 8 Oct 1995 11:37:48 CET-1 Subject: Chandeen Since some of you are interested in the Heavenly Voices band Chandeen, you might like to talk to them on IRC. On October 27th, they'll be on the IRC channel #Chandeen for an interview. The time is 5pm CET. Also, the Hyperium label are on the web now. Point your browser to: http://www.netville.de/music/labels/hyperium/hyperiumstart.html Cheers, Klaus _____ Klaus "Cosmic Vagabond" Kluge --*-- klaus@inphobos.wupper.de "now, now that you're here, stay with me light years" - Heather Nova ------------------------------ From: mp@moonmac.com (Michael Pearce) Date: Sun, 8 Oct 1995 13:06:58 -0700 Subject: strange similarity After reading here about the new Steeleye Span compilation CD, and a reference to the "wonderful but out-of-print" Maddy Pryor album "Year," I ordered one and discovered that I could indeed still get "Year." It is indeed wonderful. Great album. In the cover picture Maddy looks like warmed-over death, though, I wonder what the record company was thinking! But what struck me was the remarkable similarity of the opening strains of track 5: "Long Shadows" to Loreena McKennitt's "Dark Night of the Soul." I played them together several times and it is either an amazing coincidence, or Loreena (or possibly celloist George Kholler) heard Maddy's song and subconsciously incorporated it within. Anyone else who has these albums please listen and tell me I'm not nuts. |^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^| | Please don't add "*@aol.com" to your twit filter. 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Are there any taped concerts from those days available? | mklprc@teleport.com; pmug.org; aol.com - who needs a life? | | Moonlight Mac Services (503) 653-5673 <-> help for new Mackers | | Online support $1/min any problem -- support@moonmac.com | | Interesting rants &such at http://www.teleport.com/~mklprc/ | ------------------------------ From: basil@naxs.com (Brad Hutchinson) Date: Sun, 8 Oct 1995 20:04:38 -0600 Subject: Bowie concert/Dolby finds/Ectosynchronisity long long long Well, The Bowie concert didn't shed any light whatsoever about his (and Eno's) intentions for writing _Outside_. In fact, I wonder what most of the props on stage were for . . . There were five maniquens (SP?) three on a small stage, two floating about the back stageright side of the stage. There were two large signs "Listen to the limbs" and another that had something about hands on it. There was a table, a few chairs and a soft sculpture figure that dropped down at a point during the show. Having seen his "farewell to my old songs" tour, I'd expected that he'd be more "multimedia" and that the show would be a little more directed toward the new album. He did most of the songs off the album, in and order other than that of the album, as well as "Andy Warhol," the Queen/Bowie song "Under Pressure," "Scarey Monsters," and two others that I didn't recognise. There were some surprises (such as his singing with Trent Reznor or Trent Reznor singing with him. . .) and the base player--a bald woman who had a wonderful voice and played so very well. Of course, I didn't her name because my ears weren't working very well (NIN is very loud. . .). So, if anyone else goes to see this, please try to get her name--she was fantastic. I liked both NIN and Bowie (but Prick was as bad as their name IMHO). Though, it might be my age, Bowie seemed the better performer than Reznor. When they were both on stage, Bowie commanded presence by just standing (there and walking to the back of the stage while Reznor thrashed about) and Reznor seemed to need lots of thrashing falling and smashing to get similar effects. I just wish Bowie had used the props and given some more clues as to what he and Eno are up to. Perhaps this was a night he decided to throw out the story and just perform? I'd like to hear what other folks saw as the tour continues. Since I rarely get out the area, this is just the second concert I've been to in a year or so. The other was Laurie Anderson and comparing the two is impossible. The Laurie Anderson show inspired awe while this show was fun. I'd gone hoping that I'd get rid of a lot of the negative energy I've been building up this year--blow off some anger I've acquired by talking two times with my birthfather and running up against a brick wall when I asked him for medical information. He actually said, "I know lots of ladies back then. It's possible that you're telling the truth but I was unaware of any pregnancies at that time. I won't admit to anything at all though." I'm related by blood to a sexist asshole. Way back when, just after my conception, he'd told my birthmother that I was impossible since he was sterile (he's since had three sons). AAARGH. Enough of this, anyway, on the four hour drive down, I wrote some notes (shh--don't tell my wife, she gets pissed when I write while I'm driving) on negative rites--how many cultures have them and ours really doesn't. We let teenagers have negative rites with their heavy metal concerts and such but beyond that we don't have much participatory rites to blow off negativity. So, I was hoping that this concert would be a way for me to blow off negative energy. It wasn't. It was just an evening out with a friend. OK, I'll admit it was an evening that probably caused permanent ear damage. . . Anyway, two other nice things happened in Chapel Hill--the first is that I found a used copy of Dolby's _The Flat Earth_!!!!!!!! Of course, the clerk couldn't find the cd when I tried to buy it the first time and I had to come back when he called to tell me that he'd found it. I guess this was the universe telling me that even getting a fantastic cd required _some_ work! Anyway, I also found his _The Gate to the Mind's Eye_ at a cd/record fair that we (my friend John and I) went to this AM. I could have spent lots and lots of money but was good. I also bought Zazou's _Songs from the Cold Seas_ which is wonderful. I've only heard part of it right now but every piece I've heard so far is fantastic. And I met someone who knew who Happy Rhodes was. I was looking through some cd's and a vendor asked if I wanted to see some Kate rarities. I was really surprised, said yes and began to wonder if this guy was psychic or something. Then I realized I was wearing my Happy Rhodes tee shirt! I asked him if he knew who she was and he said yes, that he'd heard her on tapes a friend from Kansas City had made for him. And, yes, this friend was Vickie. Ectosynchronisity strikes again. Wow--this may be my longest post yet. And it wasn't really about ecto stuff at all. . . Sorry folks. brad Accuracy of observation is the equivalent of accuracy of thinking. - --Wallace Stevens bhutchin@pen.k12.va.us ------------------------------ From: jeffw@triple-i.com (Jeff Wasilko) Date: Sun, 8 Oct 1995 22:56:03 -0700 Subject: Re: Maria McKee, plus... At 6:35 AM 10/3/95, Ariel Brennan wrote: >'Ello all > >I was wondering what any of you might think of Maria McKee. I'm considering >buying an album of hers, based mainly on two things: 1) a desperate need of >new music and 2) the description of her work in Ladyslipper. What ectosyncronicity... I just picked up her self-titled release this weekend. I'm impressed so far... She's got a bit of a country/folk twang (a bit like Ms. Merchant or Victoria Williams). The instrumentaion varies, with accoustic guitar and Hammond organ featured prominently (I'm a sucker for the organ). There's also lots of brass, some misc. strings (fiddle & mandolin) thrown in for good measure. - -jeff ------------------------------ End of ecto-digest V2 #244 ************************** ======================================================================== Please send any questions or comments about the list to ecto-owner@nsmx.rutgers.edu