From: owner-ecto-digest To: ecto-digest@ns2.rutgers.edu Subject: ecto-digest V2 #209 Reply-To: ecto@nsmx.rutgers.edu Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Sunday, 3 September 1995 Volume 02 : Number 209 The Ecto digest is now being generated automatically. Please send problems and questions to: ecto-owner@nsmx.rutgers.edu. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Bradley N. Hutchinson" Date: Fri, 1 Sep 95 14:57:14 EDT Subject: the laurie anderson single meets Gertrude Stein Just a quick post to urge laurie anderson fans to get the _In our sleep_ cd single. It's worth the five or so bucks to hear the way that she (and Eno or the record company?) manipulates "In our sleep" and "Poison" to make them singles. And, on Gertrud Stein--I was hoping someone would post an explanation of her since, while I like her writing, she is difficult for me to explain. Thanks whoever it was. She followed up _The Autobiography of ABT_ with a book of a similar ilk called _Everybody's Autobiography_. She's fun. And best read aloud (I think). Kind of an expatriot Joyce? I think Hemmingway wrote about her in _A movable feast_ or perhaps not. I may have imagined that since I haven't read Hemmingway for a very long time. (Other than "The Snows of K" which I have to teach every so often, that is.) "Penguins on the grass--alas." Gertrude Stein take care all, brad - -- There is nothing in life except what one thinks of it. - --Wallace Stevens bhutchin@pen.k12.va.us ------------------------------ From: Neile Graham Date: Fri, 1 Sep 1995 13:11:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Loreena Live Irene asks: > Anyway, the reason I'm writing is because recently I saw in Best Buy an > Australian import double CD of Mask & Mirror WITH an additional LIVE CD. I > didn't want to spend $40 for one CD, live or not, but wondered if anyone > else has seen this and has purchased it. How is it? Is it worth $40? Geoff Parks told me that he heard on the Loreena McKennitt list that this disc (which was also available as a promo in the U.S.--though is really hard to find and commanded big bucks) is going to be released separately by Quinlan Road sometime very soon. You might want to hold off and save your money if you already have _The Mask and Mirror_. - --Neile neile@u.washington.edu ------------------------------ From: Michael Bowman Date: Fri, 1 Sep 1995 13:45:51 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Loreena Live On Fri, 1 Sep 1995, Neile Graham wrote: > > Irene asks: > > > Anyway, the reason I'm writing is because recently I saw in Best Buy an > > Australian import double CD of Mask & Mirror WITH an additional LIVE CD. I > > didn't want to spend $40 for one CD, live or not, but wondered if anyone > > else has seen this and has purchased it. How is it? Is it worth $40? > > Geoff Parks told me that he heard on the Loreena McKennitt list that this > disc (which was also available as a promo in the U.S.--though is really > hard to find and commanded big bucks) is going to be released separately > by Quinlan Road sometime very soon. Quinlan Road has indeed released the Australian live CD seperately. It costs $10 and can only be ordered direct from QR. This CD has 6 tracks. There was also a US promo-only live CD with 10 tracks. The 6 tracks on the Australian CD were taken from the US version. There are no plans to release the US CD, so I would recommend ordering the Australian live CD. This is an excellent disc and is highly recommended. Michael Bowman bvmi@odin.cc.pdx.edu ------------------------------ From: jwaite@popmail.ucsd.edu (Jerene Waite) Date: Fri, 1 Sep 1995 13:46:43 -0700 Subject: H Nova similarities Aug 31, 95 Kevan Dekan wrote: >It's been nagging > me lately, because I can hear another well known female vocalist in her > singing, but for the life of me I can't put my finger on who it is. ;-) I hear the Sarah sometimes too. But I really hear Annie Haslam in the pure high notes. And of course all the spaces in between must be totally Heather. (-: - --Jerene - ----------------------------------------------- Cherish the cycle; Freedom in time. --Happy Rhodes - ----------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: Dan Stark Date: Fri, 1 Sep 1995 19:56:24 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Amanda Marshall Hi all! I just received word from Sony that Amanda Marshall's first album is scheduled for release October 17, with a November tour to follow. I couldn't be more excited, I've been going to Amanda's Toronto shows for 5 years, and have to say she's one of my all-time favorite artists, bar none! This will be my favorite album of the year, and I promise to post a highly biased review of it as soon as I get my copy :). Sony promises that the album is "amazing", and she will be getting Sony's highest promotional support on it. Amanda is much more mainstream than Happy, Tori, etc. Her music is blues/rock/roots-based, and she has done wonderful covers of Bonnie Raitt, John Prine, Etheridge songs at her concerts. Don't worry, I'll remind you about her soon... Dan - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- DAN STARK dstark@freenet.niagara.com ~\\|//~ St. Catharines, Ontario, Canada -(o o)- - --------------------------------------------o000o--(_)--o000o---------------- ------------------------------ From: anthony baxter Date: Sat, 02 Sep 1995 14:48:58 +1000 Subject: this weeks mystery song identification... (non-ecto) I've picked up Laibach's NATO cd, and one of the songs on it is 'The Final Countdown'. I'm going insane trying to remember who did the original. Everyone I asked has the same answer "oh, some one-hit wonder from the 1980's". I figure that someone out in ecto-land must know the answer to this one... :) thanks in anticipation of regaining my sanity... :) Anthony ------------------------------ From: Phillip Clark Date: Sat, 2 Sep 1995 06:45:39 +0100 (BST) Subject: Re: this weeks mystery song identification... (non-ecto) On Sat, 2 Sep 1995, anthony baxter wrote: > I've picked up Laibach's NATO cd, and one of the songs on it is 'The > Final Countdown'. I'm going insane trying to remember who did the > original. Everyone I asked has the same answer "oh, some one-hit wonder > from the 1980's". I figure that someone out in ecto-land must know the > answer to this one... :) I think it was a band called Europe, and yes they were pretty well a one-hit wonder ! Phil Clark ------------------------------ From: piquet the cat Date: Sat, 2 Sep 1995 16:19:00 +1000 (EST) Subject: Re: this weeks mystery song identification... (non-ecto) On Sat, 2 Sep 1995, anthony baxter wrote: > I've picked up Laibach's NATO cd, and one of the songs on it is 'The > Final Countdown'. I'm going insane trying to remember who did the > original. Everyone I asked has the same answer "oh, some one-hit wonder > from the 1980's". I figure that someone out in ecto-land must know the > answer to this one... :) Ooh... I'm almost ashamed to know this one. It was a band called "Europe"... and I think it was 1987. Hey, stop laughing, I was a teenager back then, you're *allowed* to know stupid stuff like that when you're a teenager... :) sherlyn =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= piquet the cat (piquet@geko.com.au). also known as sherlyn koo (sherlyn@geko.com.au). "... hold the dream... when you walk through that door..." - Wendy Matthews. ------------------------------ From: "Joseph Zitt" Date: Sat, 2 Sep 1995 01:43:30 +0000 Subject: Re: this weeks mystery song identification... (non-ecto) On 2 Sep 95 at 14:48, anthony baxter wrote: > I've picked up Laibach's NATO cd, and one of the songs on it is 'The > Final Countdown'. I'm going insane trying to remember who did the > original. Everyone I asked has the same answer "oh, some one-hit wonder > from the 1980's". I figure that someone out in ecto-land must know the > answer to this one... :) Well, maybe a two-hit wonder. It was the band Europe, who also had a semi-hit named "Carrie". (Wouldja believe I have both 45s?) - ---------1---------1---------1---------1---------1---------1---------- |||/ Joseph Zitt ==== jzitt@humansystems.com ===== Human Systems \||| ||/ Organizer, SILENCE: The John Cage Mailing List \|| |/Joe Zitt's Home Page\| ------------------------------ From: JC214@aol.com Date: Sat, 2 Sep 1995 10:25:39 -0400 Subject: heather nova its been interesting reading everyone's comments about heather nova and the comparisons between her and other artists. a funny thing happened last night... joe and i were playing golf (links pro, pebble beach- i whipped his butt!) and i put "oyster" on because we have to get psyched for the toad's concert. "walk this world" blasts out of the speakers and joe (who is not known for being up-to-date on matters musical) goes "hey is this the new aimee mann album?" so i told him about people on ecto comparing heather to sarah and tori, etc.. and we decided to play "spot the influence"! this is what we came up with: walk this world: aimee mann (esp. on "holding on....) heal: tori -ish singing style on "just a little breath..." throwing fire at the sun: bjork ("i think of venus...") truth and bone: sarah (musically on the intro, but vocally esp. on "my body full of longing...") sugar: patti smith (spoken intro) her voice sounds like mae moore but the phrasing is more like patti light years: elizabeth fraser- definitely a cocteau-like beginning verona: deborah iyall - from romeo void (on "slipping,slipping..") kind of ironic that that part starts with "yeah, romeo"! anyway this is not meant to belittle heather's music in any way- i for one think that she's incredibly original. musical influences of all kinds can be found in anyone's music if you look for them and i think that heather's own voice far overpowers any similarities between her's and other's styles. "oyster" is a phenomenal album imho. i can't wait to see this girl live! chuck ------------------------------ From: maeldun@i-2000.com (Michael Doyle) Date: Sat, 02 Sep 1995 14:28:56 -0400 Subject: Love Spirals Downward in Philly Hey all, I drove to Philadelphia to check out the second East Coast performance in Love Spirals Downward 1995 accoustic tour. Accoustic tour? Love Spirals Downward? It certainly had the possibility of a being an awful show. One singer, one guitar. A miserable sound system. And singer Suzanne Perry confessed that this was in fact the fourth live show they had ever played. "So you're not looking at seasoned stage professionals, here." She also mentioned that the 40 or so people gathered around the stage and balcony at the Asylum was the largest crowd they'd played to yet. So I made it my purpose to look beyond their bundle of nerves and beyond the squealing microphone to see if LSD is merely the product of some studio tweak freak or if there really is a band in the electronics. Well, I can tell you, there *is* a band. Suzanne Perry *does* have an amazing voice. I anticipated every note, every change, wondering, "Will she really do this? Will she make this?" And invariably I had to say, "Wow" -- even though the sound system invariably let Suzanne down. Guitarist Ryan Lum was having a bit of an off night, probably the result of a somewhat "adventurous" drive down from Boston. But he *was* able to recreate the dreamy guitar bed of LSD's soundscape. LSD played equal shares from _Idylls_ and _Ardor_ as well as some material I didn't recognize which I assume is new. The crowd enthusiastically applauded every song and Suzanne always responded with a self-deprecating "Thanks, guys." The two performers weren't pleased with the way things were going and cut the show somewhat short. Afterwards, Suzanne and Ryan reluctantly accepted praise from a huddle of fans. Suzanne: "I wish I could take you guys with me to see a good show." Well, I'll be doing my part to fulfill that wish at their show in NYC tonight. - - Mike Michael Doyle maeldun@i-2000.com ======================================================================= "The greater part must be content to be as though they had not been" - - Thomas Kinsella, "Nightwalker" ------------------------------ From: FoghornJ@aol.com Date: Sat, 2 Sep 1995 14:47:06 -0400 Subject: Re: Gentle Giant-R Lovejoy In a message dated 95-08-25 00:11:55 EDT, you write: >Their 5 albums, not counting "The Collection" were "Gryphon", "Midnight >Mushrumps", "Red Queen to Gryphon Three", "Raindance" and "Treason". I'd >kill for the first two albums as they were stolen from my collection many >years ago and the TransAtlantic label has been out of business for years. > > Them's the ones! As I said, I do not yet have Treason, although I've seen it, and will probably snag that next time I see it. But yes, the 1st 2 are on CD. Found them in Brookfield, CT for about $12.00 each - not bad for import CD. The only Banco album I have is a Manticore (American) release. It's self titled. Never heard Finch, although once again the name sounds familiar. Could be those years I spent reading JEM record catalogs when I ran a college record co-op! OK, here's a couple more from the vault: Le Orme Fireballet fog ------------------------------ From: rlovejoy@pipeline.com (Robert D. Lovejoy) Date: Sat, 2 Sep 1995 16:05:18 -0400 Subject: Changing Accounts... It looks like I'll be departing Pipeline for Netaxs. I wonder if someone might send me the current unsubscribe/subscribe info - I've been here a while, it was majordomo once then maybe is ecto-request again... help?! A SLIP connection is a powerful thing... Robert ------------------------------ From: Paul Cohen Date: Sun, 3 Sep 1995 00:54:39 -0400 Subject: Re: Gentle Giant-R Lovejoy >Le Orme Excellent Italian Prog rock. Only got a few of their albums, but I do have the one that they redid in English with the translation done by Peter Hammill, Felona & Sorona. >Fireballet You know, for some reason I never took this band seriously. OK, how about the Germans? Tangerine Dream, Klaus Schulze, Ash Ra Tempel, Popol Vuh, Neu!, Cluster? ------------------------------ From: Michael Matthews Date: Sun, 3 Sep 1995 03:30:01 -0400 Subject: Today's your birthday, friend... i*i*i*i*i*i i*i*i*i*i*i *************** *****HAPPY********* **************BIRTHDAY********* *************************************************** *************************************************************************** ********************* Mary Lou Rowe (marylou@bnr.ca) ********************** *************************************************************************** -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Mary Lou Rowe Sat September 03 1960 Virgo Scott Zimmerman Mon September 04 1972 Virgo Mike Mendelson Fri September 04 1964 Virgo Richard Dean Wed September 06 1967 Virgo David Blank-Edelman Sat September 09 1967 Neon Holly Tominack Thu September 10 1970 Virgo Troy Wollenslegel Mon September 18 1972 Virgo Joe Zitt Sat September 20 1958 Will Hack for CDs - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ------------------------------ From: THE OLIVE-LOAF VIGILANTE Date: Sun, 03 Sep 1995 12:19:05 -0400 (EDT) Subject: the chat that wasn't :( Hi! Well, the GEnie online chat with the participants in this year's Kumbaya festival was a bust. They never did figure out what the problem was -- they just couldn't get the PC over at the festival connected, be it the machine or the phone line we never found out. Sigh. But as one of the five participants in the chat session I won a copy of the Kumbaya '94 disc, and we all got some free hours on GEnie for hanging in there and being so patient. :) The other folks there were really cool, so we had a good time anyway, but no Jane or Sarah or Holly to talk to. :( Maybe next year... Meredith meth@delphi.com ------------------------------ From: Damon Harper Date: Sun, 3 Sep 95 12:53 PDT Subject: staving off EWS in a desperate attempt to be able to afford a rather extensive upgrade to my computer system this year, i have decided i must stave off my regular attacks of EWS for a while and limit myself to a few hundred dollars' worth of CDs for the year... at the very most. so you'll all know, if i stop posting anything for a few months, that i failed and had to pawn off my current computer to pay for my addiction :) anyway, i ... er, sort of ... recently bought lisa gerrard's "the mirror pool" - actually a friend who really likes dead can dance but who has no money for the nonce got me to buy it with the promise that if i didn't want it, he'd buy it off me when he got money again. well, he will be buying it off me; not that i don't like it - in fact, i think in another situation i would have kept it, and i will certainly buy it again sometime in the future - - but i decided if i was to beat EWS the earlier i started the better. the album is very nice - haunting and engaging - but it struck me as something that would sit in my cd collection and not get listened to very often, as it's not as "active" somehow as the albums i tend to listen to regularily. so, wish me luck :) my list of music to buy is *way* too long for me to do this right now, but with any luck i'll manage to keep my purchases to a reasonable level :) damon ps - having coined a term on ecto has made me pretty proud. EWS EWS EWS. i'm part of the history now ;) _/\_ Damon_Harper@mindlink.bc.ca __\ /__ "Doo doo doo doo, doo doo doo doo, Vancouver, BC, CANADA \ / doo doo doo doo, doo doo doo doo." |/||\| - The Cranberries, http://www.dfw.net/~soulmate/damon/paukarut.html "Ode To My Family" ------------------------------ From: rlovejoy@pipeline.com (Robert D. Lovejoy) Date: Sun, 3 Sep 1995 17:54:01 -0400 Subject: Re: staving off EWS On Sep 03, 1995 12:53:00, 'Damon Harper ' wrote: >ps - having coined a term on ecto has made me pretty proud. EWS EWS EWS. >i'm part of the history now ;) And at least we know what EWS stands for, unlike the enigmatic SMOE. Robert the perpetually befuddled ------------------------------ From: Cloudbust@aol.com Date: Sun, 3 Sep 1995 19:45:42 -0400 Subject: Kate Price Greetings All! ...so I was perusing Planet Music the other day and discovered a new device called the "Preview Station" which, unlike the "Listening Station" also had videos. As I scanned the multitude of artists, I happened upon Kate Price- "Deep Heart's Core". Now, I did not recognize the name really, but I seem to remember some mention of her here before. I brought up the first of the 3 selections, "Temple of the Wind" and new within five seconds that I was buying this CD. (This one-song-purchase-decision happens occasionally, but I am frequently disillusioned with the work in its totality.) I then selected "The Labyrinth" and knew immediately that I would not have any regrets purchasing this CD. Kate has an incredibly haunting, effortlessly powerful voice that grabbed me fully. While not intending any comparison, I find myself thinking that some of this CD could easily be mistaken for Loreena McKennitt, but with subtle differences. I highly recommend it to anyone who appreciates Loreena's music. In addition, I should mention that in addition to piano, Kate performs several atypical instruments including hammer dulcimer, djembe and hummell(?). I fully intend to acquire her earlier CD as soon as I can find it. Does anyone know if there is a Web Site for her? She is not even mentioned in Yahoo's musical section, and the search finds no match. Also, her label appears to be an independent (Access Music Productions), and if it is, perhaps someone could mention to Happy/Kevin/Susanne the idea of getting Happy on those "Preview Stations"? OK, I am finished rambling. Thanx, Bob. ------------------------------ From: maeldun@i-2000.com (Michael Doyle) Date: Sun, 03 Sep 1995 19:52:21 -0400 Subject: Love Spirals Downward +lovesliescrushing in NYC! After seeing Love Spirals Downward in Philadelphia, I can think of two words to best describe their show at the Batcave in Manhattan last night: *Much* better Or two more: Gorgeous, amazing! This was the fifth time LSD has played live, ever. It was the largest audience (easily 100 or more) and it was the last stop on their mini-tour. This time singer Suzanne Perry was much more relaxed. The more intimate setting of the venue agreed with her -- despite its name, the Batcave is less of a wide-open hollow space than the Asylum where they played in Philly. The sound at the Batcave also helped. Whereas the amps at the Asylum squealed each time Suzanne laid out a clear, resonant note, the Batcave handled her voice with ease. This probably was thanks to a better soundcheck before the show. With these improvements, I sat (inches from the stage, as Suzanne had requested of me) absolutely enraptured through favorites such as "We Write In Water," "And the Wood Comes Into Leaf," and "Will You Fade." I have to say I really liked the live version of "Will You Fade," in some ways better than the CD version. They also tacked on a new intro to "Loves Labour's Lost" which was cool. As the set was coming to an end, Love Spirals Downward debated whether to play two more songs -- someone from the audience called out, "Play *ten* more." Unfortunately, that wasn't an option, so they closed the show with "Tear Love From My Mind" and "Stir About The Stars" -- the latter being the one song the cut from the set in Philadelphia. I think what made the show better, in addition to the superior sound system, was the passion that came through in Suzanne's voice. Since things were going better, she was less inhibited, more confident. There seemed to be something coming from within that added a dimension to sounds made by her voice. It was immediate, yet fantastic, and she transported us to another place. After the show, I chatted with Ryan Lum (the guitarist) and Suzanne. Before seeing them in Philly, I had expected Suzanne to be a remote, ethereal waif, only loosely connected to the living world, and Ryan to be the kind of guy who would be lost if he didn't have buttons beneath his fingers to tweak. Wrong, wrong, wrong. While they are clearly dreamers, they are completely immediate and immediately likable. Utterly unpretentious; I felt comfortable with them almost at once. Can't wait to see them again :) But while seeing LSD live was wonderful, it's going to take some time before I can listen to their CDs again. Part of the appeal was their mystery and to re-establish that my task must be to separate the image of Ryan and Suzanne playing on stage from the songs on the albums. - -------Did I mention something about lovesliescrushing? lovesliescrushing opened for LSD in both Philadelphia and NYC. In Philly, I walked in just as they were leaving the stage, but last night I got to see their entire set. They have even less stage experience than LSD -- Philly was their first live show *ever,* Manhattan their second. lovesliescrushing *looks* absurd performing. You have a small, pretty female standing in front of the microphone, her arms tucked behind her back as if imitating the Venus de Milo. She's flanked by two men standing almost totally still and strumming their guitars so fast and hard it looks like they're... well, let's say it isn't hard to imagine them doing something else. It looks like some sort of sadistic excercise -- the woman is trying her hardest to sing a nice pretty song and the men are doing their damnedest to totally drown her out with their heavily distorted guitars. But if you just close your eyes... WOW! Listening to them was like flying into a supernova. And this is without dropping acid (unlike several other audience members). I always suspected lovesliescrushing would sound best at massive, neighbors-calling-the-police volume, and I was right. I chatted with these folks afterward, too. The vocalist, Elisa, and one of the guitarists, Andrew, are new to the band. The vocalist from the CD is Melissa -- she was unable to make it. So the other guitarist, Scott, was really the only piece of lovesliescrushing as we know it who was present. He was really nice and quite pleased with the way their live performances went. lovesliescrushing has a new album recorded and scheduled for release in Feb. '96. If they tour again, Scott hopes to have both Melissa and Elisa on stage doing vocals. BTW, lovesliescrushing is no longer from Tuscon, AZ. They've moved back to Lansing, MI where they were originally from. OK, I've rambled enough for one post. Suffice to say, I wouldn't have missed this show for all the tea in China (or something along those lines :) ). - - Mike Michael Doyle maeldun@i-2000.com ======================================================================= "The greater part must be content to be as though they had not been" - - Thomas Kinsella, "Nightwalker" ------------------------------ End of ecto-digest V2 #209 ************************** ======================================================================== Please send any questions or comments about the list to ecto-owner@nsmx.rutgers.edu