From: owner-ecto-digest To: ecto-digest@ns2.rutgers.edu Subject: ecto-digest V2 #186 Reply-To: ecto@nsmx.rutgers.edu Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Wednesday, 9 August 1995 Volume 02 : Number 186 The Ecto digest is now being generated automatically. Please send problems and questions to: ecto-owner@nsmx.rutgers.edu. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kate_Tabasko@transarc.com Date: Wed, 9 Aug 1995 15:16:01 -0400 (EDT) Subject: RIP Jerry Garcia Jerry Garcia died today. Although the Grateful Dead probably don't classify as ectophilic music for most of us, I doubt many of us would begrudge the Dead their place in musical history. The world won't be the same without "Cherry Garcia"'s namesake. Requiescat in Pace. - -- Kate ------------------------------ From: klaus@inphobos.wupper.de Date: Wed, 9 Aug 1995 19:50:24 CET-1 Subject: Drawings available Hi there! The visitors of our Ectoparty on Katemas day have been very creative. Using the beautiful cut-out doll that Happy painted for Rhodeways, each of us created at least one new special version. It was amazing to discover the boost of creativity those folks developed, and the results are really excellent. So, after Happy had a chance to see all those pictures coming out of AG's fax machine, now it's your turn, if you have a WWW browser. Point it to http://www.wupper.de/sites/inphobos/hrd.html to see 12 stunning pictures of Happy, the master of disguise. :) Have fun... ...Klaus ___________________________________________________________ ( "Tell me all the plans you have for the great beyond. ) ) Will you be physical again, or be a cosmic vagabond." ( / --- Happy Rhodes --- \ / Klaus "cosmic vagabond" Kluge klaus@inphobos.wupper.de \ ------------------------------ From: "JOHN SHEPARD (CALAMARI)" Date: Wed, 09 Aug 1995 16:30:28 -0500 Subject: Re: ecto-digest V2 #185 From: "Matt Bittner" > >On 8 Aug 95 at 19:39, Joseph Zitt sprecht: > >> Well, not all -- I preferred the movie to the book. The book struck >> me as a hodgepodge -- not to mention that anyone who knew a little >> Hebrew would have no problem knowing what the ostensibly mysterious >> term "kwisatz haderach" meant... other than wondering why the term >> was in Hebrew to start with. On the other hand, I may have been the >> wrong age for it, as I thought the name Urilan was grossly funny at >> the time (about 10 years old). It was supposed to be Irulan, no? (I can remember crap like that, and can't remember where I put those HTMLs...) >With all this talk about liking/not liking the movie because of >reading/not reading the book got me thinking. I guess the reason why >I liked it is because I had read the book (for the second time, >before the movie came out), so my "mind" was able to fill in the >"holes" (as well as discern which was Herbert, and which was I still think the weirding modules could easily have been H erbert. Yes, the N avigators looked weird, but you'd be quite surprised to read the descriptions of them from the last book, which was written _after_ the movie... >Hollywood). And I did enjoy Kyle (is that right? I can't rememeber >his last name.) as Paul. Kyle MacLachlan. Not an easy last name to forget, particularly on Ecto... :-) >> OTOH, I recall that my favorite of the series was "God Emperor of >> Dune"/ But then, I haven't gotten around to reading "Heretics of >> Dune," "Chapterhouse: Dune", "Beach Blanket Dune", "Gidget Goes >> Dune", or "Dune Meets Godzilla", though I have read Harvard (?) >> Lampoon's hilarious "Doon". > >Wow. I didn't know this was out. I have Lampoon's spin on _Lord of >the Rings_ (which I won't read until I read _Lord of the Rings_ (am I >the only one alive that hasn't read it yet?)), and I would be >interested in getting this. A few years ago, I was at a comic book >shop, perusing their back issues, when I came upon the "comic >adaptation of Dune", and at $1.00 an issue (a three issue series) >snatched them up without thinking. Well, if you think the movie was >bad, DON'T read the comics. YUCK!! Sounds like it. An adaptation of an edited version of a treatment... whoo. :-( From: sagetodd@postoffice.ptd.net (Sage Lunsford & Todd O'Reilly) >Good morning everyone, > >(After a huge mug of coffee I finally feel up to joining in on this >discussion :) ) And spice beer? ("Best damn stuff I ever tasted...") >>reading/not reading the book got me thinking. I guess the reason why >>I liked it is because I had read the book (for the second time, >>before the movie came out), so my "mind" was able to fill in the >>"holes" (as well as discern which was Herbert, and which was >>Hollywood). And I did enjoy Kyle (is that right? I can't rememeber >>his last name.) as Paul. > >I've never read the book -- I did try to start it years ago, but it was just >so...so... *EPIC* that I couldn't get into it. I don't know, I guess I just >get bored by centuries of information. Anyway, my mom (who has read every Five thousand years, to be exact... no, actually, it's not nearly as epic as it first seems. Unlike Lord of the Rings, where it's all thrown at you in the first few chapters and never seems to relent, Dune throws some basic stuff at you in the beginning and seems to level off for awhile. The "centuries of information" aren't nearly as daunting as they sound; you're given what you need to know, when you need to know it, usually... >single book) was visiting this winter and Dune was on the sci/fi cable >channel, and we all (me, my mom, and Todd) watched it from start to finish. >Had a wonderful time because my mom could identify all the characters and >gave us all of the necessary background -- so we had a sort of running >background conversation during the whole movie: > >"Who the hell is THAT guy? We haven't heard anything about him." >"Oh, that's so-and-so, he was the leader of the blah-blah-blah movement. >Yuck, what a stupid outfit they have him wearing." Lemme guess: Stilgar? >I did enjoy the movie, though (which was rather surprising -- the last David >Lynch effort I'd attempted to watch was Blue Velvet, which had Todd and I >literally nauseated twenty minutes in and we turned it off at that point) >and have considered trying to read the book(s) again. Sounds about right. :-O No, about 10 minutes into Wild at Heart it really hit me I was watching a Lynch flick: within 10 minutes someone was dead and a woman bared her breasts. In high school, that was my kind of movie. :-) From: sagetodd@postoffice.ptd.net (Sage Lunsford & Todd O'Reilly) > >This is a silly thing that really happened one day when Todd and I were in >the kitchen, hope it gives you a giggle: > >Sage and Todd are in the kitchen and Todd is making coffee. "Ack," says >Sage, "I think my nose is >bleeding." "Concerned noises!" says Todd, "And furthermore, worried looks!" >"That's all very nice," >Sage retorts, "but I notice that you haven't stopped making coffee." "The >Spice must flow," Todd >says solemnly. > >- -Sage "The spice has given me accelerated evolution for four thousand years, it has enabled you to reach two hundred..." Now what does it say about how foobered my brain's filesystem is that I can recite that line exactkly, but cannot tell you what my coworker behind me just said? From: Vickie the Ectophile > >I'm not really qualified to talk about Dune because I never read >any of the books. I do remember liking the movie and not having >any problems following it even if there were a lot of holes. > >On Wed, 9 Aug 1995, JOHN SHEPARD (CALAMARI) wrote: > >> IMHO, Lynch is not a bad director, but he's friggin' weird. He's >> in his element with something like Twin Peaks, where he can let >> his weirdness run free. > >I think the original pilot for Twin Peaks (as opposed to the "European >version") is one of the best things he's ever done. I don't think >that he really let his true weirdness run free though until he could >make the theatrical _Fire Walk With Me_. (which makes a perfect >prequel to the pilot...and no, I don't like it anywhere near as much >as the pilot or _Blue Velvet_) > >> But for him to try and do a "serious" >> work like Dune, he had to struggle so hard to keep his weirdness >> under control, ... > >Still...people forget that his *most* serious film was the excellent >and moving _Elephant Man_ and he had no trouble keeping his weirdness >under control for that film. It's one of my favorite movies (by anybody) >so I like to remind folks that it's a David Lynch film. I haven't seen Elephant Man. But my guess is, it's about such a weird subject, Lynch would have no trouble making it serious. Watching a David Lynch film is, IMO, sorta like watchiung a Kate Bush video: you aren't used to the way their minds work, and at first you just sit and go "Is this serious?" (I'm thinking of K ate's backward dance in "The Sensual World" - i's been years since I've seen it, I'll confess) but later you figure it out. The difference is, after five viewings, Lynch is still weird, even after Kate begins to make sense. :-) (Have I just started a flamewar?) > >Vickie (Mapes...no relation to any Dune character) The housekeeper! :-) From: "Bradley N. Hutchinson" >Just a minor correction--_Wild at Heart_ is a recent Lynch >film--post Peaks. I think the order is: _Eraserhead_, >_Elephant Man_, _Dune_, _Blue Velvet_, TV Peaks, _Wild at >Heart_, the really awful sitcom that didn't last more than >three episodes, the series of nonfiction pieces for TV, _Fire >Walk with Me_ and that is it, I think. Or did _Blue Velvet_ >come before _Dune_? Hmmm, it shouldn't have stylistically but >. . . . I'm argueing with myself so I should go now. > >brad Eraserhead was '77, I think; Dune was '84, Blue Velvet was '85, Peaks was '90, Wild was '91, and Fire was '92, I think. Not sure beyond that. I ain't the Lynch freak I once was. Haven't watched Dune in about two years... I'm way overdue for my Lynch fix. :-) | http://www.columbus.iupui.edu/~jrshepar | IUPU Columbus, Indiana | |John Shepard jrshepar@indyvax.iupui.edu I wanna go to a real school someday! | | Internet is too important to be taken seriously. | Artist, writer, net.loon | | Amiga owner & Sarah McLachlan fan: God help me! |in the making. Finger me &| |"Enrich the soil, no soul no soul" Sarah McLachlan| tell me that you love me.| ------------------------------ From: elionwyr@onix.com Date: Wed, 9 Aug 1995 17:25:00 +0500 Subject: festival music `JE> While perusing one of the local record shops (do they still call JE> them that?), I noticed a collection of four CD's that were JE> recordings from different "festivals" from around the world. JE> Not getting a good look at the package, I couldn't tell you the JE> title, nor what's in the collection. I just remember that the JE> whole collection was either $23, or $32 (depends on if you're JE> dyslexic or ton;-)). Anybody seen this collection, or know JE> about it? As memory serves, you were looking at "Global Celebrations", distributed by Ellipsis Arts. I don't have that collection (much as I've lusted for it), but I do have another of their sets called "Global Meditation". The sets run around $35, and are very cool collections of international music and the like. Each CD is a separate category - like in the set I have, the CDs are called "Voices of the Spirit" (songs and chants); "Harmony and Interplay" (ensembles); "The Pulse of Life" (rhythm and percussion); and "Music from the Heart" (melody). Selections vary from tribal to more mainstream (like Philip Boulding on the harp, for example). They also have a highly-praised collection of flamenco music - the title of which escapes me, unfortunately. :( However, if you write to the label, they'll send you a sort of magazine/catalog (which I'd be referring to right NOW, but it's still packed somewhere from my move in May..ack!) - you can get in touch with them at: Ellipsis Arts 20 Lumber Road Roslyn, NY 11576 or 1-800-788-6670 (One more note...I was in a Tower Records recently and saw that they were selling tapes from the Celebrations collection separately - I don't know if this extends to the CDs, but it might be worth asking about, pecially if you don't have the $ to buy the full set at one time.) ------------------------------ From: lakrahn@imho.net (Laurel Krahn) Date: Wed, 09 Aug 1995 17:27:31 -0500 Subject: Garcia dies... :-( I don't consider myself a deadhead, but I love many Grateful Dead songs and have many friends who are serious Dead fans. Never got to see them play, always kindof wanted to at least once. Enjoyed the Jerry Garcia Band stuff, too... >Here's what the wire service had to say: > >From: C-ap@clarinet.com (AP) >Subject: Jerry Garcia Dies At 53 >Date: Wed, 9 Aug 95 10:00:23 PDT > > SAN FRANCISCO (AP) -- Jerry Garcia, the master guitarist whose >band the Grateful Dead symbolized the 1960s counterculture and >remained a top concert draw three decades later, died Wednesday at >a drug treatment center. He was 53. > The cause was a heart attack, a band spokesman said. > He was found at 4:23 a.m. by a counselor at Serenity Knolls, a >residential treatment center for drug addiction in Forest Knolls, >said Dan Murphy of the Marin County sheriff's office. > A nurse attempted CPR, and sheriff's department staff who were >summoned also failed to revive him, Murphy said. > > The Grateful Dead, with its roots in the Bay Area's psychedelic >scene of the 1960s, combined rock, bluegrass, blues and folk >influences into a unique stew. Garcia was lead guitarist, composer >and vocalist. > Among the band's best known songs were ``Truckin','' ``Casey >Jones,'' and ``Friend of the Devil.'' Its only top 10 hit was the >1987 song ``Touch of Grey,'' with its refrain ``I will survive.'' >But the Dead was almost more a way of life than a band to the >thousands of ``Deadheads,'' many of whom followed the group from >concert to concert. > They made the band one of the most popular concert draws in the >United States, grossing tens of millions of dollars each year. > ``You need music,'' Garcia once said. ``I don't know why; it's >probably one of those Joe Campbell questions, why we need ritual. >We need magic, and bliss, and power, myth, and celebration and >religion in our lives, and music is a good way to encapsulate a lot >of it.'' > In concert, Garcia was either spotty or spectacular. In the >1980s and 1990s, he would forget lyrics or strain to hit high notes >when he sang slow-tempo standards such as ``Sugaree,'' ``Althea'' >and ``Ship of Fools.'' > But his searing, improvised guitar solos breathed new life into >even the band's most overworked numbers, sending dancing Deadheads >into paroxysms of glee through the extended jams. > He rarely spoke on stage, reportedly because he feared how his >words would be interpreted by rabid fans who analyzed every nuance. > The bearded, rotund Garcia had a history of health problems that >caused frequent breaks in the Dead's grueling concert schedule. In >1986, he entered the hospital in a diabetic coma. > He also has admitted past drug abuse. > Garcia slimmed down, stopped smoking and hired a personal >fitness trainer after falling ill with exhaustion in 1991. > In recent years, Garcia also developed a line of colorful >neckties. > But the years of constant touring took its toll. > ``It was a meltdown. Too many cigarettes, too much junk food and >too little exercise,'' band spokesman Dennis McNally said last >year. > McNally said that Garcia died of a heart attack, and he didn't >know why he was at the treatment center. > ``It was news to me,'' he said. ``I thought he was going to >Hawaii. Apparently he was paying increased attention to his >health.'' He said he had seen Garcia recently, so he could not have >been in the center for more than a couple of days. > Problems at several recent concerts drew headlines. At a concert >in Indiana, a crush of gate crashers led to a series of arrests and >the cancellation of the following night's show. A few days later >after a concert in St. Louis, a deck collapsed during a rainstorm >at a campground used by Deadheads, and more than 100 were injured. > The Dead's most recent performance was July 9 at Chicago's >Solider Field. Laurel (lakrahn@imho.net) Krahn, Webspinner Virtual Home: http://imho.net/~lakrahn/index.html IMHO Productions: Internet Consulting, Training, & Web Design ------------------------------ From: RedGtrGirl@aol.com Date: Wed, 9 Aug 1995 19:01:18 -0400 Subject: *ugh* Happy 30th to our beloved Happy T. Rhodes!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Saw Innocence Mission on Friday night - it was exquisite. Karen has the voice of a goddess, delicate like a bird. I love their hollow-body guitar sound (for those of you guitar-geeks he plays a Gretsch `69 - a true weepy guitar sound), their music is so beautiful in it's simplicity. And... they are friendly and interesting people to boot.! I must begin to purchase the earlier releases. Oh yeah... and they said they are going to be touring again in late fall/early winter. Brilliant! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ - --------------------------------------------- WARNING: Amy's crabby, opinionated, and bizarre post ahead - but some of you might understand so that's why I'm venting here... :-/ Today has really been a bad neurotransmitter day for me (a neurotransmitter is one of those little chemicals in your brain that regulate your moods...) The mail system at work has gone south again (I can not remember it ever being this bad) so I'm getting about one post a day at my "free" internet address. It's after 5 and I'm typing offline at my desk via my AwOl account. For those of you still reading - I had official business on AOL today downloading stuff for work i.e. Quark Xpress stuff - and decided to lurk in the so-called chat rooms. I spent 3 minutes there before it dawned on me that most of the people there were there for cybersex. 2 different guys asked me if RedGtrGirl stood for "red garter girl" I tersely replied "noooo, not last time I checked - I think it stands for "guitar" not "garter"" and quickly backed out. What the hell are those guys thinking doing you- know- what while they are at work (sticky keyboards!) ? I felt like asking the guy for his credit card number if I was going to be providing erotic entertainment! SHEESH! don't we have enough problems as a society the way it is without more excuses to avoid human contact/relationships. It seems that the more I read about this whole phenomena of the IRC and various incarnations of such - the potential for people to be completely cut off from live human contact, and opt for the comfort and safety of their living rooms or desks.....That whole exchange sort of really creeped me out... Like that Kate song "Deeper Understanding". Each day for me is a challenge NOT to become hermetic - I push myself to stay in touch with friends and family - I force myself to answer the phone sometimes because sometimes it is soooooo damn easy to crawl into my living room, turn off the phone, pick up the guitar, or the bead work or book, and not move - for weekends at a time. I too have had my own run-ins with "Delirium" and "Despair" (see also Sandman) - - who occasionally drop by for tea - but eventually they leave - I throw them out. However, there is something too easy about computer chat rooms - too easy to avoid the tough part of human interaction. Too easy to avoid the "work" (and sometimes living is such hard work). I'm not a prude, and I am 100% in favor of the first amendment as long as it doesn't hurt anyone and doesn't involve sex with animals or children - but there is something really wrong with cyber-sex.... you like, miss the entire point of sex yeh know? (I mean, one might as well go back to one's room with the assorted magazines or books) Have the fantasy lives of these people become that dry that they can no longer "function" for themselves (and by function, i mean, in the imagination). Has our sexuality become that frightening? Oh well... I'm going to stop while I'm ahead. Truth be told I'm undergoing a little personal stress right now wrt a relationship issue and I'm a little touchy. But I missed out on the whole "sexuality 101" theme going a couple weeks ago so I guess I'm not completely irrelevant. What a touchy subject tho don't you think? With this whole new age of technology - how in some ways we seem to be moving backwards in our relationships with our fellow humans.... ..... no further discussion is necessary if y'all feel this topic is too heavy :-) "there may not be time for us all to burn in tandem together.." Peter Hammill Amy *sigh* (I did just learn how to play "Gepetto" - that Belly song from "Star") ------------------------------ From: Aaron Hawkins Date: Wed, 9 Aug 1995 18:59:41 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: Dune On Tue, 8 Aug 1995, Michael Doyle wrote: > A friend of mine told me once that he had rented a cassette of Dune that had > storyboard like sketches with narration at the very beginning. This was a > few years after I had seen a videocassette of Dune which of course had none > of this. Ah. This must have been a bootleg copy of a Truly Horrible American broadcast tv version of the film. How bad? Ask your friend to check the director's credit; Lynch actually had the Guild* take his name off the thing. Comparable to the American broadcast edit of BRAZIL, but that's a whole other flame, and one I'm perfectly content to let Meredith jump all over... :-) Aaron * the DIRECTOR'S Guild, you ninny. ------------------------------ From: elionwyr@onix.com Date: Wed, 9 Aug 1995 20:31:18 +0500 Subject: An honest-to-God HR question What *are* all those cool little vocalizations she does behind a lot of the songs on "Warpaint" (and on a few from "Ectopoise," such as "The Flight")? They *sound* vaguely Native American-ish, and every time I listen I feel like I'm missing part of the song. ------------------------------ From: elionwyr@onix.com Date: Wed, 9 Aug 1995 20:51:24 +0500 Subject: another note Sometimes it's hard to know what kind of "word of mouth advertisement" a certain something is getting..so just in case it needs to be said.. If you're looking for something to get hopelessly addicted to, in the way of books, try the Griffin and Sabine books by Nick Bantock. It's a trilogy of books that contain the correspondences between an artist and his muse/soulmate, I guess you could say. To read the story, you read postcards and letters the two exchange. The artwork for the correspondences is just beautiful, and - from what I can tell of the definition of "ecto-fodder," this series fits the bill. ..Oh, and in case there are folks out there interested - I recently came across several copies of a promo sort of poster from Dead Can Dance (I think it's for "Towards the Within," but it could be "Into the Labyrinth"), and one from Tori's latest album. If you're interested, let me know and I"ll try to get 'em for you. ------------------------------ From: Robert Lovejoy Date: Wed, 9 Aug 1995 21:20:22 -0400 Subject: Jerry Garcia, Rock In Perpetuity... I'm not a Deadhead, I saw them once at the Fillmore East in 1970 and they were great and so was the acid, and I know this is not strictly ecto, but Jerry's passing away today at the age of 53 is very sad. I'd always enjoyed his music, from the Dead through Old and In The Way and onwards. He had a quite a lifetime, and having moved beyond our sphere has left us a little happier than he found us. That's all one could ask of a soul... Thanks, Captain Trips, for all the fun! Jerry Garcia, 1942-1995 RL ------------------------------ From: kerry white Date: Wed, 9 Aug 1995 20:27:39 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [none] Hello, Newbie to e-mail I am I am. In 1978 I had the habit of audio taping Sat Nite Lv and so recorded on cassette Kate Live + fell in love. I've been collecting ever since, including Bootlegs and a red vinyl 45 of Kate live in Japan. When I was 'getting into' Tori I got tired of people saying,"She's like Kate". By my definitions "...is like..." is a NULL SET. And ,"...Is from..." equals either a direct influence or a parallel direction of growth and style w/ or w/out influence from a common root. So: IMHO: Kate is from Kate and Peter G Tori is not from Kate but is from Laura Nyro Milla says she is from Kate but you really can't hear it on first CD Happy sounds like Kate ( and Annie Lennox a bit ) but is from Shawn Phillips. I first heard of Victoria Williams in a documentary on PBS years ago. I still have a 'music video' of Merry-Go-Round from it. Also: a personal ps to Vickie Mapes: Do you have a 12-13 year old tape of assorted Gentle Giant of unknown origin?:-) KrW zzkwhite@acc.wuacc.edu "In order to learn from your mistakes, make lots of mistakes" Ancient Chinese bumpersticker KrW zzkwhite@acc.wuacc.edu "In order to learn from your mistakes, make lots of mistakes" Ancient Chinese bumpersticker ------------------------------ From: THE OLIVE-LOAF VIGILANTE Date: Wed, 09 Aug 1995 21:31:55 -0400 (EDT) Subject: lots of things all rolled into one Hi! Yes indeed, RIP Jerry Garcia. :( I always said I wanted to go to a Dead show someday... guess I missed my chance. Let this be a lesson to us all. NPR not only led off All Things Considered with the story this evening, but they eulogized him with all the thoroughness and reverence normally reserved for late heads of state. This didn't really surprise me, but it amused me nonetheless. :) It will be interesting to see what the die-hard Deadheads do with themselves now... will they get jobs and turn yuppie within the year? Or will they join forces and form a third American political party? Only time will tell... Neile responded to my private reply publicly thus: >Meredith asks: > >> Rebecca Pidgeon is married to David Mamet??????? *The* David Mamet? ...which led Jeffy to exclaim: >meth, where have you *been*?! This was a pretty big thread about the time >_The Raven_ was released! Yeah, well, I was skimming quite a bit at that time, as I recall... can you ever forgive me? ;> Laurel wondered for her friend: >>Hey, can you do me a favor? Can you ask if anyone >>knows where I can pick up a CD from Shannon Worrell? Hey, they were playing her CD at Fez before Dorothy Scott's set opening for the Innocence Mission last month (if that made sense to anyone, please let me know :}). I thought it was so good, I asked the sound guy what it was. I'm not sure what label it's on, but stores that have a good folk section should have it, I'd imagine. I'm keeping an eye open for it, myself. (Incidentally, I thought Shannon Worrell had been on Nick Hill's Music Faucet the same time Dorothy Scott was back in June, but I was misremembering -- that was Stephanie Sayers, an artist from Philadelphia way (I think) who has an EP out on Zero Hour Records called _Christmas Island_. If you like Shannon Worrell, I'd say definitely check Sayers out -- I'm also on the lookout for this disc.) Neile compared Heather Nova: >Definitely worth checking out. She's along the Tori Amos lines, for lack >of a more definitive description. Actually, a friend of mine compared her to _Touch_-era Sarah McLachlan, and I can see that a lot better than a Tori comparison. Nova's voice is some- times vaguely reminiscent of Sarah's, and her songwriting seems to be at a similar stage. My friend maintains (and I agree) that it will be interesting to watch Nova grow as a musician and songwriter, just as it's been fascinating to watch Sarah... >Maybe someone should do an ecto music family tree. Just imagine! Didn't Vickie do something like that once? Or am I hallucinating again? It would be seriously cool, though. :) Aaron crawled out from under his rock to contribute: >Comparable to the American broadcast edit of BRAZIL, but that's >a whole other flame, and one I'm perfectly content to let >Meredith jump all over... :-) Oooh, don't get me STARTED on that... that... aberration! Terry Gilliam utterly disowned that too, as I recall (and for good reason)... gad. (For those who aren't aware, the American television version of _Brazil_ not only was edited in such a way as to make it plain that it had been prepared for an audience of drooling idiots, but had a DIFFERENT ENDING, one which COMPLETELY NEGATED the point of the entire movie.) There are few things in this universe that can get me going like the subject of that butchery, so I'm going to stop now and go have some tea. And thanks to dear Aaron for bringing it up. ;> Finally, the most important part of this message: HAPPY BIRTHDAY, HAPPY!!!!! :) +==========================================================================+ |Meredith Tarr meth@delphi.com| |Boonton, NJ USA finger info at: mtarr@eagle.wesleyan.edu| +==========================================================================+ |"We now return you to your regular time. 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