From: owner-ecto-digest To: ecto-digest@ns2.rutgers.edu Subject: ecto-digest V2 #173 Reply-To: ecto@nsmx.rutgers.edu Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Monday, 31 July 1995 Volume 02 : Number 173 The Ecto digest is now being generated automatically. Please send problems and questions to: ecto-owner@nsmx.rutgers.edu. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: awphili@xs4all.nl Date: Sat, 29 Jul 95 22:45:12 Subject: Re: Psychiatry And here's another one... //--- forwarded letter ------------------------------------------------------- > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Date: Sat, 29 Jul 95 19:58:58 > From: awphili@xs4all.nl > To: "Vickie the Ectophile" > Reply-To: awphili@xs4all.nl > Subject: Re: Psychiatry > Content-Type: multipart/mixed; charset="US-ASCII"; > boundary="PART.BOUNDARY.0010.807063352" > > > There really are no absolutes. Anyone who says otherwise needs their > > head examined. :-) > > Why do you say this? It is a self-contradictory statement, a declaration > of your own insanity. That you joke about it just makes it worse. > > > Like anything in life, it can be used and abused. It can be good for > > some and bad for others. It depends on a lot of factors. It can save > > lives and can hurt others. Each case is individual. > > Maybe this is just knowledge you have gained about life. It is what > you have heard other people say, or maybe even just read on the > internet. How do you know it is true? > > > I personally tend to think that it can help more than it hurts and it > > might just be a matter of finding the right person. Psyciatrists are > > just people. Some are bad at what they do and some are good at what > > they do. They're not gods and they're not villans. > > Psychiatrists tend to use books, and life cannot be fully described > in that way. After a while, this approach could just block any > further developments. > > > I've seen my share of psychiatrists and therapists... > > And it shows... :( > > > There are no absolutes. That's the only thing I'm sure about. > > There you go again... this is just nonsense to me... > > > I'd suggest you not listen to anyone who tries to paint psychiatry as > > either a good/bad extreme. But you know that, right? > > I do not think I can tell you how I feel about that statement in the > language I am using now. Probably I'd just say go away and leave me > alone. > > I would like to give you a hug, but this is of course impossible to do > over the internet. :) > > Well, I hope you will admit that you were just a little insane before > you read this message. :) > > Albert \\xx -- * /~\__-:+-|=-@$$$-< ------------------------------ From: awphili@xs4all.nl Date: Sat, 29 Jul 95 22:43:51 Subject: Re: Lingquiztics I am just forwarding an already given reply to the list... //--- forwarded letter ------------------------------------------------------- > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Date: Sat, 29 Jul 95 04:08:10 > From: awphili@xs4all.nl > To: "Ulrich Grepel" > Reply-To: awphili@xs4all.nl > Subject: Re: Lingquiztics > Content-Type: multipart/mixed; charset="US-ASCII"; > boundary="PART.BOUNDARY.0009.807005814" > > > Hi! > > Hi! > > > Albert quoted me: > > > > Now the counterexamples: > > > > > > > > Ich kenne, dass wisst Ihr genau, Happy Rhodes nicht persoenlich. > > > > [I do not, you do know that very well, know Happy Rhodes personally.] > > > > > > This made me wonder... > > > > > > Are you *absolutely* sure about that? > > > > > > > > OOOOOPPPPPSSSS!!!!! NOOO! > > Hmm... really? > > > I'm not. Blush. Sigh. There's an 's' too much in the German sentence. It > > should read: > > > > Ich kenne, das wisst Ihr genau, Happy Rhodes nicht persoenlich. > > ^^^ > > The meaning doesn't change very much... > > > Sigh. > > > > But there's help: > > > > Ich kenne, dass Ihr das genau wisst, Happy Rhodes nicht persoenlich. > > [I do not, so that you really know that, know Happy Rhodes personally.] > > I didn't know that. :> > > But there's one more problem... You were writing to the Ecto mailing > list, and Vickie Mapes is on there, and somehow I think she knows > Happy personally. > > But I'm not really sure about that. :) > > > The truth here is that I never ever met Happy in person and never ever > > talked to her. So I do not know her personally. > > Aha! Me too. :) > > > > Just checking... > > > > Thanks. > > I always test my code, although it hardly seems necessary... > > > > I have another problem for you all. I sometimes hear things like > > > "I would to ". What does that mean? As far as I can figure > > > out, sometimes it means doing causes , and at other times > > > it means causes . > > > > > > Examples: > > > > > > I would like to have a banana. > > > > causes . That is, causes . > > > > > I would look at my watch to know the time. > > > > causes . That's also causes . > > > > So where's your example for the other way round? I can't think of one now. > > Maybe something like "I would love to ". > > Albert > > -- > Albert W. Philipsen | "Your name is being called by sacred things > Omnipotent Ruler of the | That are not addressed nor listened to > Universe (or maybe not) | Sometimes they blow trumpets" -- Kate Bush > > P.S. What was that all about??? *grin* \\xx -- * /~\__-:+-|=-@$$$-< ------------------------------ From: sra5@psu.edu (Sarah Andrews) Date: Sat, 29 Jul 1995 16:59:56 -0500 Subject: Re: ecto-digest V2 #171 At 9:23 AM 7/28/95 -0400, owner-ecto-digest@ns2.rutgers.edu wrote: >ecto-digest Friday, 28 July 1995 Volume 02 : Number 171 > >The Ecto digest is now being generated automatically. Please send >problems and questions to: ecto-owner@nsmx.rutgers.edu. > Hey - you guys! Did you know the Ecto digest is now being generated automatically?! ;-) >P.S. Saw Alanis Morrissette's video on eMpTV this evening. God, what an >awful video for, I'm sorry to say, a pretty awful song (imho, of course). >Sorry guys, but I'm not impressed. Is the rest of the album any better? > A lot of times videos make me enjoy a song more when I hear it later and think of the video. Sting's "When We Dance" and REM's "Everybody Hurts" are examples of this for me. But when I saw Alanis Morrissette's video it made me think of a young girl all dressed up and made up, with her growing-out bangs falling into her face in a contrived way, and I just didn't see the song, which I'd previously found listenable, as coming out of her mouth. I did like the part where she changed from the black into the white clothes though. pax, Sarah Sarah Andrews sra5@psu.edu "And I wanted them to stop the car and let me out so I could go fill up my suitcase with unnecessary plastic items..." - Nanci Griffith, intro to _Love at the Five and Dime_ ------------------------------ From: awphili@xs4all.nl Date: Sat, 29 Jul 95 22:57:39 Subject: Regenerating missing bits Does anyone know a method for regenerating the information that got lost in the process of digitizing a sound onto a CD? I feel like there's something missing lately while listening to them... Hmm... maybe I could just listen to the tape copies on cassettes I made of them... :) Albert \\xx -- * /~\__-:+-|=-@$$$-< ------------------------------ From: Robert Lovejoy Date: Sat, 29 Jul 1995 22:51:23 -0400 Subject: obsolete On Fri, 28 Jul 1995 Philip Sainty said: >That confused me for a moment, but I presume you mean that >Bob's Big Bass(tm) speakers shook the player? It sounded a little >bizzare! Indeed, the bass was shaking the CD player so much it mistracked. Must move a few things... > >At any rate, I look forward to the more detailed post, and I hope that >other people will be giving their opinions on this one too :) A new AG >album involving Happy is cause for excitement in my books! I've listened twice through. At the outset, I ust say I'm not familiar with Ambient as a genre. I really enjoyed this, however. It's sort of a minimalist thing, lots of nifty little grooves and textures. Hap's voice is not to be heard, but prepare for synth wizardry. I am thinking this music would be great for lovemaking... Or for a big party where you don't want to drown out conversations. I played it for a friend who is more familiar with ambient. He wants a copy; gave him AG's address (he'll check Tower first!). He said it was fantastic. More depth soon! Robert ------------------------------ From: Philip Sainty Date: Sun, 30 Jul 1995 16:24:27 +1200 Subject: explanation Hi folks Regarding my asking the Seth discussion to be moved from the list, and Vickie's reply to that, I feel I should explain that I agree wholeheartedly with the idea of Ecto being open to any topic its members wish to talk about. I feel it's one of the things that makes Ecto so special... It is true that I wasn't interested in the Seth discussion, but the reason I wanted it gone from the list is that it was getting much too close to an outright argument than I liked, and, frankly, the thought of flames on Ecto scares me. The downside to this is that Vickie no longer has a reason to come to New Zealand and bop me upside the head. *sigh* :) Philip _ _ ___ _ _ _ (_ / | / \ |_) |_| | | (_ Philip Sainty (_ \_ | \_/ | | | | |_ (_ ectophil@comp.vuw.ac.nz - -------------------------------------------------------------- "This is where I want to be, this is what I need." --Kate Bush ------------------------------ From: Michael Matthews Date: Sun, 30 Jul 1995 03:30:02 -0400 Subject: Today's your birthday, friends... i*i*i*i*i*i i*i*i*i*i*i *************** *****HAPPY********* **************BIRTHDAY********* *************************************************** *************************************************************************** ********************** Kate Bush (no Email address) *********************** ********************* Chuck Smith (Kraken123@aol.com) ********************* ******************** Yves Denneulin (denneuli@lifl.fr) ******************** *************************************************************************** -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Kate Bush Wed July 30 1958 God Chuck Smith Wed July 30 1958 Reboot Yves Denneulin Fri July 30 1971 Lion-Heart Joel Kenyon Wed July 31 1963 Leo Eli Brandt August 05 Leo Martin Bridges Sat August 08 1970 BigGuy Happy Rhodes Mon August 09 1965 HolyGhost Martin Dougiamas Wed August 20 1969 Positive Tori Amos Thu August 22 1963 Leo Sam Warren Tue August 22 1961 Leo Henk Van Wulpen Sat August 22 1970 Leo Don Gibson Wed August 26 1959 Virgo - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ------------------------------ From: mklprc@teleport.com (Michael Pearce) Date: Sun, 30 Jul 1995 00:54:04 -0700 Subject: don't be insulting, John "JOHN SHEPARD (CALAMARI)" writes, (incredibly long recap of Sarah/Chieftans concert snipped) (Two gratuitous snide anti-Mac comments snipped) I could respond with anti-Amiga comments, but I won't. Just to say that religious statements regarding relative superiority of platforms are seriously off-topic, okay? Besides, the multimedia kiosk that Voyager has been bringing to the concerts looks extremely cool (the standalone screen that appears to have no computer attached at all; it's hidden in the base). mp /^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^\ | Please don't add "*@aol.com" to your twit filter. Thank you. | | mklprc@aol.com | "Give them a light and they'll | | mklprc@teleport.com | follow it anywhere!" | | http://www.teleport.com/~mklprc/ | -- Firesign Theater | - ------------------------------>((^o0o^))<--------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: JC214@aol.com Date: Sun, 30 Jul 1995 11:48:00 -0400 Subject: happy strikes again! so last night sans cherubs played at a diner (yes, a DINER!) in new milford connecticut (special thanks go to karen the wonder-agent). no less a diner with one itty bitty air conditioner for 100+ sweaty bodies in 90 degree heat at 99% humidity. our guitars were nearly unplayable because they won't stay in tune with the humididity and/or the copious amounts of perspiration pouring from the body of the player. i'll bet we were quite an attractive sight. so in between sets we pump cds through our p.a. system one of which last night was "equipoise" . well, halfway through "runners" a waitress comes up to me and asks if the music was by happy rhodes (!!). with astonishment i sat and listened to her relate how she used to work at "The ____" in Woodstock (apparently a restaurant or diner) and how Happy was a regular customer there and how sweeeeet she is and blah blah blah... everybody sing!: "it's a small world after all..." still sweating... chuck ------------------------------ From: THE OLIVE-LOAF VIGILANTE Date: Sun, 30 Jul 1995 22:25:14 -0400 (EDT) Subject: the week in replies Hi! Happy Katemas to all! Our Boonton gathering was much smaller than anticipated, thanks to several cancellations, but in the end it was a tiny, good group of friends sharing good music, rare Kate video (which even impressed the non KaTefans in the audience), and good food, the leftovers of which woj and I will be enjoying for several days to come. :) It was *very* humid and hot, but we survived it. We even invented a new game out on the lawn, incorporat- ing the rules of baseball, rugby, tennis, and probably cricket (by accident). It was a game only Calvin and Hobbes could have fully understood. :> No one knows who won, but I think it was the lawn, myself. Oh, Laurel: woj and I saw Boiled in Lead acoustic in NYC on Friday, and woj and Jeff Wasilko saw them electric at Maxwell's last night. I'll let woj go into the minute details, but I thought they were great!!! They need hair advice in a BIG way, but they sure are great musicians. :) So, like, no one mentioned the ecto-ish late night television appearances last week at all! Jennifer Trynin was on Conan O'Brien (the worst show on television, but boy, does he do a lot for the Boston music scene), and she doesn't wow me in general, but it was a good performance, I guess. woj mentioned that her band has a few heavy-duty Yale/New Haven connections -- anybody know the details of that? Natalie Merchant was on Letterman the next night, complete with Katell Keineg on backing vocals. (I was glad to see Katell had decided to wear something for the occasion -- live, she just wears a slip and a crown of twigs from the alley in back of the venue.) Pretty solid performance... I have *got* to see Natalie live soon, preferably with Katell opening... Nick, any news on whether or not that might be a possibility??? I was also happy to see that Natalie seems to have abandoned the fashion she found in her _Our Time In Eden_ days. I always liked her best in dumpy clothes and unkempt hair and no makeup, and it did the heart good to see her that way again. :) Bjork was supposed to be on Leno the next night, but I think they ran out of time, because we set the VCR to record the last 20 minutes, and no Bjork to be found. Did anyone watch the entire show? Was she on, or not? If not, any word on a rescheduling? Oh-- and while I'm here, if anyone taped Sarah McLachlan on Good Morning America a couple weeks back, please e-mail me. Thanks. :) Matt Bittner mentioned: >Just having gotten back an hour ago from the CD shop, I picked up >Katell Keineg's _O Seasons O Castles_. My personally-set choices >were this, Juliana Hatfield's lates, or an Anonymous 4 disc. >Obviously, I settled on Katell, after only one quick scan there, at >the shop. > >I've had my first complete listen to it, and I like it. Lots. It >didn't strike me as much as Loreena's _the mask and mirror_, but it's >good none the less. I especially like the "title" cut, "O Seasons". It just gets better the more you listen to it, too -- I wasn't too sure what I thought of it at first, but now I *love* it -- especially after seeing her live. As I've said before, her second album is going to be INCREDIBLE, and I can't wait! >I realize I should have remembered the name of the Anonymous 4 disc, >but did I make the right choice between Katell, Juliana's _Only >Everything_ and Anonymous 4? Actuall, I'm pleased, so maybe it >doesn't matter. Well, you should go back and get the Anonymous 4 as soon as you can. Was it _An English Ladymass_? _Love's Illusion_? _On Yoolis Night_? They're all breathtakingly beautiful. >Ah yes, I also tracked through Laura Love's _Collection_, and also >can't wait to get this one. All those who enjoy her have a reason >to. Such "different" music! (Egads, for a minute there I sounded >like my sister-in-law!) :) I have a real dilemma this week: on Thursday, at the same time, Laura Love is playing at the Bottom Line, Bela Fleck is at Irving Plaza, and suddenly, tammy! are at Cafe Sin-e again. Waaaah! I'll just have to flip a three-sided coin, I guess... Marisa commented: > I have _Pangaea_, and really like it, but wasn't as impressed with > _Helvetica Bold_. Didn't get the collection, since most of the material > on it was already on those two albums. I got the collection more to show support for her than anything else... I find myself doing that a lot. I'd rather buy a disc in a store than mail order it directly from the artist -- even though less of the $$$ I pay goes back to them, it shows the store that people care, and hopefully will help convince them to keep that artist's material in stock. I figure that's more important in the long run. And I really wasn't impressed with _Helvetica Bold_, either. Listened to it in succession with _Pangaea_ one day, and haven't been able to listen to it since... Jessica exuded: >Or california!! I love it here. weather is fantastic!!! Yes, but you have Pete Wilson for a governor. >Speaking of my grandparents is anyone interested in a million dollar >house on a hill overlooking a lake with a boat house and a huge barn >and an incredible beautiful property, the house itself being on the national >historic register and being simply stunning and serene all at once? Gack! Let's see, how many of us are on this list? Say, 300? If we all chipped in, um, $2,600 we could all buy it and start a commune. Or maybe not. :} elionwyr inquired: >The little I've heard of Natalie Merchant's newest sounds really good to >me - anyone out there have any feedback on the quality of the CD as a >whole? "Sedate" is the best way to describe it. Sometimes I really wish things would just get going, but they don't. Still, it's a wonderful listen, and a good debut. I have a feeling she may decided to inject a little bit more into the songs live... we'll just have to see. Irene (hey, someone from P*! Cool...) delurked: >Hmmm...interesting comparison, Fleetwood Mac and all. I'm definitely going >to have to keep my eyes out for Clannad. Unfortunately, the West coast >doesn't seem to be as "up" on many of the new/unknown artists, which makes >them difficult to find oftentimes. Took me 8 months to find all of Happy's >CDs in the stores... I'd hardly call Clannad new -- they've been around since the 70's. Unknown, maybe, depending on where you live. Did you check the New Age section? Some particularly clueless stores have been known to file their stuff there... >Makes me wonder, however, if this doesn't >mean that ectophiles might not be slightly demented...?? :) Bwahahaha, that's what makes us so much FUN!!!! ;> Squid went on at length about his Sarah experience: >On the way to my seat, I passed the control board which is set >up in the center of the pavillion, in the middle of the seating >plan. And standing within the control section was a man who >looked exactly like Ash Sood. Maybe I should have stopped. Then >again, maybe I was better off not to. What would I have said? >That was, in any case, the closest physical proximity I've ever >been to a member of Sarah's band, for whatever that is worth in >the general scheme of the universe. You should have said "Hi, Ash." He probably would have talked to you - he's a really nice guy. (Hmmm... I wonder where being the reason Dave Kershaw smudged the side of the Beautiful White Equipment Truck with indelible black Sharpie ink stands in the general scheme of the universe?) >So Ron brings out Ash, Dave, and Brian to help him out on a song >or two, and Ash is wearing the same clothes as his lookalike in >the control booth - no surprise. And needless to say, the woman >in silver is still dancing back there, up until Ron's last song. Did the addition of extra musicians help him any? And I find it quite disturbing that Sarah was actually *dancing* to his music. It's bad enough that she likes him enough to inflict him upon her audiences on this little tour... ugh. >Re: the new version of "Path of Thorns", after three years, I'm >finally beginning to like the song. Am I going nuts, or did >anyone else, upon hearing the "Doots," have to shut off that >voice in their head wanting to add "Hey babe, take a walk on the >wild side"? >That fateful day >has arrived: I've burned myself out on Sarah concerts. Wow. You feeling okay? >I finally got my drink. They didn't have Pepsi; I would up with >a Coke instead, at a price even ESCOM would have cringed at: Heathen! Pepsi is gross (says the admitted Coke addict). >Then the Chieftains arrive. Paddy takes center stage and rambles >incoherently for several seconds, then looks around, and says, >"Oh, excuse me," and begins speaking. I like these guys already. :) I liked that, too -- Gaelic sounds like it's just not from this planet. >Those guys (particularly Paddy >and the harpist, the one who looks sorta like Calvert Deforest) Yep, that's what I thought too. :) >Oh, and did I mention these guys can play? And play they did. I should hope so, after 33 years... >They brought out a guy from Spain who plays a Spanish variant of >bagpipes. That guy was proof that everyone is Irish. Awesome. Or at least Celtic -- I found it interesting that at both shows, when Paddy introduced him as being "from Galicia, the Celtic part of Spain" most of the people in the audience laughed, not realizing that he was being dead serious! I wanted to give each one of them copies of Loreena's _The Mask and Mirror_ and tell them to pay particular attention to the liner notes and call me in the morning. Gawd. >They brought out a violinist. The guy was young, probably the >Chieftains had been together since before this guy was born; his >head was stubble, he looked as if he might have worked at a >record store in Bloomington as recently as that morning. But he >takes center stage, and from the moment that bow hit the >strings, he never looked back. Not only was he playing with >power, sending flames and sparks shooting off the bow, but >halfway through his song, he started to jig! And good too. That would be Ashley MacIsaac. Betcha he and Joe Kessler from Boiled in Lead could have a fiddle duel that would burn down an entire city block! >The finale. The Chieftains are joined at the end by the bagpiper >and the fiddler, plus Ron Sexsmith, plus Sarah and Ash. Ron Sexsmith is joining in that too now?!? Urg. >So Sarah and the bodran player (what the hell's his name again?) Kevin Conneff. >take two mikes and do that "will you marry me marry me marry >me?" thing. I've always known Sarah isn't exactly used to >singing at that kind of speed, but yet she made it work anyway, >and it was beautiful. Not a single note she made during that >interlude fell below, let's say, two octaves above middle C. >_Now_ it's worth it. Isn't that great??? I want that to be the hidden track on the next album. :) Sarah: "Love will you marry me, marry me, marry me, marry me/ Love will you marry me and take me out of danger?" Kevin: "No I will not marry you, marry you, marry you/ No I will not marry you because you are a stranger" And so on... >But the jam ain't over! There are more jigs, more solos, more >jams. Then suddenly the guest violinist makes the damn thing >talk: "Ah ah ah ah stayin' alive..." :) I heard (but didn't tape, yes I *am* an idiot) an hour-long concert by Ashley MacIsaac which WFUV sponsored from outside at Rockefeller Center last summer, in which he and his band did the entire song "Staying Alive" as a finale. It was incredible. Gee, they must have had 20 minutes to spare at the end of the show!!! (You didn't happen to tape it, did you?) Now playing for the first time in years: Cocteau Twins, _Treasure_. Sigh. +==========================================================================+ |Meredith Tarr meth@delphi.com| |Boonton, NJ USA finger info at: mtarr@eagle.wesleyan.edu| +==========================================================================+ |"We now return you to your regular time. Please take all of your belong- | | ings in order to avoid a paradox." -- Uncle Bob | +==========================================================================+ ------------------------------ From: lakrahn@imho.net (Laurel Krahn) Date: Sun, 30 Jul 1995 23:18:04 -0500 Subject: Re: the week in replies At 10:25 PM 7/30/95 -0400, THE OLIVE-LOAF VIGILANTE wrote: [talk of KaTemas deleted, tho it sounded like much fun... maybe someday...] >Oh, Laurel: woj and I saw Boiled in Lead acoustic in NYC on Friday, and woj >and Jeff Wasilko saw them electric at Maxwell's last night. I'll let woj >go into the minute details, but I thought they were great!!! They need >hair advice in a BIG way, but they sure are great musicians. :) Did they play a rousing rendition of "Bad Hair"? I was going to say I have a hard time imagining them doing it acoustically, but... heckyeah, they could do it. (At Fourth Street Fantasy Convention, Geri Sullivan showed me some of her pictures from this year's Winnipeg Folk Festival. She literally has an *entire* roll of filmsworth of pictures devoted to BiL performing "Bad Hair"... It was so brilliant, the facial expressions, the poses, THE HAIR (everywhere!)...) Well, a bit silly, but hey... I expect woj to post reviews to both ecto and leadheads... :) (The gang of East Coasters who were at Fourth Street Fantasy convention in Minneapolis last weekend were grumbling about Boiled in Lead's scheduling. The Washington D.C. area folk missed Lead, some of the New Yorkers wouldn't be back for any area shows... ) >Jennifer Trynin was on Conan O'Brien (the worst show on television, but boy, >does he do a lot for the Boston music scene) Aw shucks, Conan's show has grown on me... Mainly due to the charms of Andy Richter. When one watches it just a few times, it seems the lamest thing on the planet. But last summer, I watched it regularly for awhile and it grew on me... They get some quirky guests that you don't see on other shows, too. And the comedy bits are funny in an absurd silly kind of way. (Tho it really depends on the night. Some nights are really really lame...). But that's me, YMMV. >Squid went on at length about his Sarah experience: >>They brought out a guy from Spain who plays a Spanish variant of >>bagpipes. That guy was proof that everyone is Irish. Awesome. > >Or at least Celtic -- I found it interesting that at both shows, when Paddy >introduced him as being "from Galicia, the Celtic part of Spain" most of the >people in the audience laughed, not realizing that he was being dead serious! >I wanted to give each one of them copies of Loreena's _The Mask and Mirror_ >and tell them to pay particular attention to the liner notes and call me in >the morning. Gawd. Sigh. It's always weird when people laugh at things that sound absurd to them, but are in fact, well, fact! Part of me thinks "jeez, idjits" and part of me understands how, well, i guess they could make that mistake. (At Fourth Street, I was reminded of this phenomenon... John M. "Mike" Ford was on a few panels... he'd say something in earnest, which sounded so absurd folks laughed, thinking it a joke. But it'd be true, he'd always have to point that out. Sometimes I think folks are so used to him being funny (often with jokes going over their heads) that they just laugh without thinking...) >>They brought out a violinist. The guy was young, probably the >>Chieftains had been together since before this guy was born; his >>head was stubble, he looked as if he might have worked at a >>record store in Bloomington as recently as that morning. But he >>takes center stage, and from the moment that bow hit the >>strings, he never looked back. Not only was he playing with >>power, sending flames and sparks shooting off the bow, but >>halfway through his song, he started to jig! And good too. > >That would be Ashley MacIsaac. Betcha he and Joe Kessler from Boiled in Lead >could have a fiddle duel that would burn down an entire city block! All the talk of the Sarah/Chieftains shows and this young man has me *really* curious about him. I love a good fiddle. In fact, this past weekend, after seeing both the Flash Girls and Bedlam Union perform, I was reminded of my theory that *all* bands should have a fiddle in 'em... (Okay, so I don't *really* want that. But... a good fiddle adds a lot to a good band.) Joe "Flippy" Kessler is just a wonder. The last three times I've seen Boiled in Lead, I've ended up standing or sitting right beneath Joe. Wow. He does things with that blue fiddle that awe me. Sometimes very *strange* things, but hey... For those who enjoy the more traditional Irish feeling music, you might want to check out a CD by the band Sunday's Well... A Boston area band, methinks. With Joe Kessler on fiddle (yup, he's from the Boston area originally) and fine bodhran playing and pennywhistle and other instrumentation. >>The finale. The Chieftains are joined at the end by the bagpiper >>and the fiddler, plus Ron Sexsmith, plus Sarah and Ash. > >Ron Sexsmith is joining in that too now?!? Urg. There's been enough talk about how bad this poor Ron Sexsmith guy is that I'm curious about him. I don't think I'd stoop to buying any of his recordings (well, not unless they were darn cheap)... but whenever someone gets that much exposure for being bad-- I'm curious. (Well, I didn't rush to the theaters to see _Ishtar_, but I happen to think _Hudson Hawk_ is a nifty movie. There you go... ;-p ) Gosh, I haven't rambled to ecto ('cept about Boiled in Lead) in awhile... Hmmm. Bestest, Laurel (lakrahn@imho.net) Krahn Virtual Home: http://imho.net/~lakrahn/ IMHO Productions-- Internet Consulting & Web Design ------------------------------ End of ecto-digest V2 #173 ************************** ======================================================================== Please send any questions or comments about the list to ecto-owner@nsmx.rutgers.edu