From: owner-ecto-digest To: ecto-digest@ns2.rutgers.edu Subject: ecto-digest V2 #159 Reply-To: ecto@nsmx.rutgers.edu Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Tuesday, 18 July 1995 Volume 02 : Number 159 The Ecto digest is now being generated automatically. Please send problems and questions to: ecto-owner@nsmx.rutgers.edu. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "jessica" Date: Mon, 17 Jul 1995 15:08:16 -0700 Subject: SF Katemas info for SF area ectophile Kate fans. :) Hiya! In case any of you ectophiles are west coasters and Kate fans too, we're having a SanFran Katemas at my place this year, Saturday, July 29th. If you'd like details, let me know! IED'll be there! SVHS and laserdisk players available. Lots of rare material should be available for listening/viewing (as well as not-rare stuff). I will of course and as usual make sure that some Happy is played and that she gets talked about. :) I'd love to see some ectophiles turn up, everyone is welcome! If you come from afar, arrangements can be made for you to stay over, we have lots of space including two queen sized futons for guests. --jessica ------------------------------ From: Christopher Boek Date: Tue, 18 Jul 1995 12:15:51 +1000 (EST) Subject: Shit Hot .... Hi people, I'd just like to formally apologize for my awfully inconsiderate remarks about the heat complaints that have passed through here ... From the Melbourne 'Age' "HEAT WAVE The death toll from a heat wave in the United States has pushed past 200, with most of the victims in Chicago" Sounds bizarre ... how hot is it over there ??? Obviously hot enough to make news over here! Chris. - -- | ||| ||| | ||| ||| ||| | ||| ||| Christopher Boek - c.boek@ee.mu.oz.au | ||| ||| | ||| ||| ||| | ||| Dept Elec Eng Univ of Melbourne Australia | | | | | | | | | | Tel:(+613)- 344 7966(BH) 853 4296(AH) |___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|"I've got no room for a quote" CB 1994. ------------------------------ From: Robert Lovejoy Date: Mon, 17 Jul 1995 22:36:16 -0400 Subject: Aural Gratification Summer Clearance! (and update stuff) Faxed from Kevin: Hello! Hope everyone is havin' fun and stayin' cool. This summer has become extermely busy for us here at AG. In May of this year we committed to the release of 3 new albums by October 1995. Two of these ( through the gentle nudging of Susanne) are ambient, techno, chill recordings. The third was to be my new solo work or a vocal ambient recording, a la Massive Attack or Enigma. When we pick a release date we have to start counting backwards one month for the manufacturing and marketing pre-sales. One month for the art work to be designed and printed, and of course before the art work can be completed we have to know the song order, selections, artists, times, etc. So if you do the math you'll see that these albums should be done around NOW!! One of these is complete and scheduled for release on July 25th. It is called "Aural Gratification Vol. 1 Ambient". It features three cuts by synth wizard Happy Tyler Rhodes, 2 works from guitar god David Torn (recently voted Best Experimental Guitarist 1995 in Guitar Player magazine reader's poll), 2 cuts I had the honor of co-writing with Bokeno, and 4 tracks of my own. It's a pretty dark and kinky album, from some dark and kinky folks. We're not pressing that many, so if there's any trouble finding it (Yeah... like that could happen) we'll have some here for mail order. Same place, same price (no cassettes). The second album will definately be "Aural Gratification Vol. 2 Ambient". A different mix of people but still a very textural electronic voyage. Happy will be contributing once again. Due to the time crunch, my album will come out in January of 1996, the ambient vocal album will not get recorded in time, so we will be releasing a new (old) Happy Rhodes record. It will be a compilation of material she has performed at radio stations throughout the counter over the past 4 years. This will include solo, duo, and trio performances, including the incredible versions of 4 songs recorded for the Echoes program earlier this year. There will also be some surprises from the Rhodes vol I and II days as well as the famous Yes medley and who knows what else. This album came about in response to the overwhelming number of requests for copies of Happy's radio-only CD-4 released this year. There are a lot of people who would like to have and hear these alternative versions and performances. We're pouring through years of tapes to pick the coolest, most interesting performances for the October album. In the mean time, to meet the demand we are acquiescing and selling 100 of the radio CD-4. Why 100? That's all there are. That's it! I guess they're collecters items of a sort. The CD contains a radio mix of Glory, BTC's Hold Me, and unplugged band versions of Collective Heart and Look for the Child. It's unlikely that these versions will wind up on the October album. These will be signed by HR and will sell for $15.00. They may be purchased with a HR tee shirt for $25.00 (summer clearance sale) regular postage stuff applies. I think $2.50 covers the disc and shirt. Happy is currently hard at work on an enhanced CD as well as a full blown CD ROM game ala Myst. Creatures abound. Her tracks on the ambient album are stellar and I even heard a few things from the next studio recording for next year. Busy girl. If you want to reserve a copy of the CD$ just call 914-679-4728 or e-mail at AURAL G@aol.com - this is our first notice of sale so there should be some. Take good care and enjoy this glorious summer. Kevin Bartlett ------------------------------ From: elionwyr@onix.com Date: Mon, 17 Jul 1995 22:32:36 +0500 Subject: Boiled in Lead/War for the Oaks Hiyas, folks! I haven't seen this posted yet, so..in case anyone out there is interested..Boiled in Lead will, I hear, be at the Middle East on July 24th! (Huzzah!) And the "War for the Oaks" trailer is availble thru Steeldragon Press for $10 -it's around 10 minutes long, and is a must-have for any fan of the book. (For those who've seen it...Emma and Lojo are listed in the credits as being in the trailer...what roles are they playing?) ------------------------------ From: Nyteshde@aol.com Date: Mon, 17 Jul 1995 22:43:30 -0400 Subject: Re: Subjective voice impressions awphili@xs4all.nl said: >Did you ever notice a sudden change in the voice of a singer after repeated >listenings to the same album? It is interesting to know that the voice of >a singer is actually created by the listener. I can honestly say that's never happened to me. I suppose that could be a thing with me though; I'm a little strange about music. I have a very detached view of it, I suppose. At least, that's how I usually describe it. >(If you've ever heard a >playback of a recording of your own voice, you should know what I mean.) I've heard a playback of my voice, and I still don't know what you mean. ;> >A very complicated process constructs a voice out of an almost random >bitstream on a CD. I think that if we hear a singer for the first time, >we tend to synthesize a voice for her out of voices we already know. Later, >we may recognize the real voice, if that voice is somehow more "pure" or >"primal" than the other voices we know. (The same can happen with colours.) Nope, that's really never happened to me. I have never in my life heard a voice and thought it sounded like someone else's (well, not unless it actually *did*, in which case I end up being one of many people who comment on it). Now, occasionally, a voice reminds me of someone else's for one note, but that's about it, and that stays consistant for as long as I listen. But, if most people do that, it would explain things like... why some people think Artist A sounds *exactly* like Artist B, whereas someone else doesn't think so at all... >This has happened to me with a few singers: early Kate Bush, Jewel and >recently Susan Aglukark. I think it is because they all seem to have a >childlike quality to their voices that first attracts the attention of >the listener, while in fact they are very mature women. Especially >Jewel can sound very "old" to me now. Jewel has a lot of differant voices, I think. The voice on "Foolish Games" could be someone else entirely, as opposed to the voice on "I'm Sensitive". FG sounds like a very mature voice, whereas IS seems to be sung by a 12 year old. - -Nyteshade ------------------------------ From: lakrahn@imho.net (Laurel Krahn) Date: Mon, 17 Jul 1995 22:44:41 -0500 Subject: Re: Shit Hot .... At 12:15 PM 7/18/95 +1000, Christopher Boek wrote: >From the Melbourne 'Age' > > "HEAT WAVE > The death toll from a heat wave in the United States has pushed > past 200, with most of the victims in Chicago" > >Sounds bizarre ... how hot is it over there ??? Obviously hot enough to >make news over here! I dunno about the rest of the country, but here in Sioux Falls, South Dakota... we had temps around 105-108 degrees farenheit this past week. Mainly on Tues-Thurs (which just happened to be the days I was moving from a third floor apartment on one end of town, to a third floor apartment on another end of town. No elevators, just lots of stairs. Unair-conditioned stairs. Ack.). Today it was right around 85 degrees. Which seemed downright cool to me (normally, I prefer temps in the 70s...). Best, Laurel (lakrahn@imho.net) Krahn Virtual Home: http://www.iw.net/~lakrahn/ IMHO Productions-- Internet Consulting & Web Design ------------------------------ From: lakrahn@imho.net (Laurel Krahn) Date: Mon, 17 Jul 1995 23:08:01 -0500 Subject: Re: Boiled in Lead/War for the Oaks At 10:32 PM 7/17/95 +0500, elionwyr@onix.com wrote: >And the "War for the Oaks" trailer is availble thru Steeldragon Press >for $10 -it's around 10 minutes long, and is a must-have for any fan of >the book. (For those who've seen it...Emma and Lojo are listed in the >credits as being in the trailer...what roles are they playing?) It's a spiff trailer. Tho mayhaps a bit incoherent (as most trailers are) if you haven't read the book. Still fun. Music for the trailer features a previously unrecorded track by Cats Laughing, along with music by Martz&Menton, the Flash Girls, and John Sjogren. And the entirety of Cats version of "Nottamun Town" which fits the trailer perfectly, IMHO. Emma plays the Lady (the good one, that is), Lojo plays Hedge (in the trailer, you only see her at the very end, helping Willie defeat a "bad guy"). Betsy Pucci (Adam's fiance') plays Carla. A leadhead portrays Stuart (let's play "guess the leadhead" until he pipes up ;-p). I think one can almost catch a glimpse of Will as a waitperson @ the New Riverside Cafe... (BTW, the address for SteelDragon is: SteelDragon, Inc., Box 7253, Minneapolis, MN 55407. The Flash Girls Web Page also has a link to the latest catalog. http://www.player.org/pub/flash/flash.html) Laurel (lakrahn@imho.net) Krahn Virtual Home: http://www.iw.net/~lakrahn/ IMHO Productions-- Internet Consulting & Web Design ------------------------------ From: jessica Date: Mon, 17 Jul 95 23:08:14 -0700 Subject: ack! date of katemas is sunday Jul 30, not Sat the 29! I seem to have been confused on the date of Katemas .. it's Sunday July 30th, not Saturday the 29th. Sorry for the confusion .. Hope some of you can make it :) --jessica ------------------------------ From: Michael Matthews Date: Tue, 18 Jul 1995 03:30:01 -0400 Subject: Today's your birthday, friends... i*i*i*i*i*i i*i*i*i*i*i *************** *****HAPPY********* **************BIRTHDAY********* *************************************************** *************************************************************************** ******************* Cathy Guetzlaff (guetzlaf@cray.com) ******************* ************************ Vlad (princevlad@aol.com) ************************ *************************************************************************** -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Cathy Guetzlaff Mon July 18 1955 Cancer Vlad Sat July 18 1970 Warning: severe tire damage Jani Pinola Thu July 20 1972 Jonquil David Koehler Mon July 25 1966 Leo Tom Johnson Mon July 25 1966 Leo Alvin Brattli Sun July 27 1969 Lefthanded Christy Eger Smith Thu July 27 1944 Horse Crossing Rob Woiccak (woj) Sun July 28 1968 children at play John Relph Sat July 28 1962 Leo Bob Kollmeyer Wed July 28 1971 Leo Steve Lusky Tue July 29 1952 Bike! Kate Bush Wed July 30 1958 God Chuck Smith Wed July 30 1958 Reboot Yves Denneulin Fri July 30 1971 Lion-Heart Joel Kenyon Wed July 31 1963 Leo Eli Brandt August 05 Leo Martin Bridges Sat August 08 1970 BigGuy Happy Rhodes Mon August 09 1965 HolyGhost - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ------------------------------ From: awphili@xs4all.nl Date: Tue, 18 Jul 95 13:10:42 Subject: Re: Margot Smith Anthony Horan wrote: > Albert replied: > > >Anthony Horan wrote: > > > >> almost as if, having heard the album, EMI's promotional people panicked and > >> went to the pub for a few months. :) > > > >Well, why couldn't some people try to promote it a second time? > > It's to do with the thinking process that goes on at major labels. Records get > one chance at being succesful, and if they don't, the record company figure > that it's never going to work and swutch their attention to whatever's new. In > other words, they put it in the "too hard" basket. You first made it sound like the album never got a chance at all... I don't see why it would be that hard to promote. But I'm weird. :) Albert ------------------------------ From: "Matt Bittner" Date: Tue, 18 Jul 1995 07:27:12 CDT Subject: Re: Shit Hot .... On 17 Jul 95 at 22:44, Laurel Krahn wrote: > At 12:15 PM 7/18/95 +1000, Christopher Boek wrote: > > >From the Melbourne 'Age' > > > > "HEAT WAVE > > The death toll from a heat wave in the United States has pushed > > past 200, with most of the victims in Chicago" > > > >Sounds bizarre ... how hot is it over there ??? Obviously hot enough to > >make news over here! > > I dunno about the rest of the country, but here in Sioux Falls, South > Dakota... we had temps around 105-108 degrees farenheit this past week. > Mainly on Tues-Thurs (which just happened to be the days I was moving from a > third floor apartment on one end of town, to a third floor apartment on > another end of town. No elevators, just lots of stairs. Unair-conditioned > stairs. Ack.). > > Today it was right around 85 degrees. Which seemed downright cool to me > (normally, I prefer temps in the 70s...). Last week seemed to be the worst for us and - it appears - the worst in the country. Monday started it all with a temp right around 100 (all temperatures are F). Tuesday was 101, Wednesday was 105, Thursday was 109, and Friday was 103 (about). The heat index ranged from the temperature (100) upto a max of 120. Luckily, there was little humidity at this time, so we weren't "as bad" as we could have been. Although electrical power wasn't a major problem, we were experiencing "brown outs" (where the electricity would go off for a short (about half-an-hour) time period). I believe state-wide we only had two deaths, luckily. Saturday was a nice relief when it "only" went to 90-92. Yesterday was the best day yet, with temps around 85, and 40-50% humidity. Gads I feel like a meteoroligist. I have a request for anybody on rdt. I need the song and artist list for UtC2. Thanks. Currently jammin' to Count Basie... Matt Bittner | "We devour those meba@cso.com | who would subdue Omaha, Nebraska | us." ------------------------------ From: Marion Kippers Date: Tue, 18 Jul 1995 15:47:27 +0200 Subject: Dublin? Hi all, In about a week I'll depart for a 2.5-week holiday in Ireland. The first two weeks I'll be hiking in the west of Ireland (Connemara, the Burren, Dingle and Kerry) with a group, and after that I'll spend a long weekend in Dublin with my boyfriend, from Thursday 10 August until Tuesday 15 August. And now I have a couple of questions. Does anybody have any tips and suggestions for places and things to see and do (or to avoid) in and around Dublin? Good record and cd stores, live music, bookstores, museums, pubs, restaurants, anything? Are there any Irish/Dublin ectophiles who would like to meet up? Thanks! Best wishes, Marion ______________________________________________________________ Marion Kippers Wolters Kluwer Academic Publishers Automation Department Dordrecht, The Netherlands Marion.Kippers@wkap.nl "Leave the shadows dancing..." (OP) ______________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ From: VNozick@tribune.com (Valerie Nozick) Date: Tue, 18 Jul 1995 08:23:12 -0500 Subject: Re: Shit Hot .... Christopher Boek asked: >Sounds bizarre ... how hot is it over there ??? Obviously hot enough to >make news over here! Hot as hell. The bricks on all of the buildings are melting. Just kidding. But it was pretty damned hot here. In Chicago, the thermometer hit 106 degrees Fahrenheit, with a heat index (how hot it _really_ feels when you include humidity) of 125 degrees Fahrenheit. To give you an idea, the hottest I think I've ever experiences, and I grew up in Southern California and spent every weekend of my childhood in the desert, was 120. The problem is that Chicago is just not used to weather like this. This is a city where it reaches at most 90 degrees usually. And that's only for 2 days of the year. Chicago can handle its cold weather with the best of them, but when it comes to heat, we're wimps. On the worst day of the heat wave, I had a meeting that was to take place at a restaurant two blocks away from my workplace. None of my coworkers wanted to go outside even that short distance -- that's how bad people are here. To give them a break, however, it _was_ like a sauna stepping outside. Today it's a nice and normal 85 degrees (with some humidity, but there's always some humidity out here in the summer). Interestingly, what's not being reported is that in one neighborhood in Chicago (mine, although I wasn't hit), the power went out in the middle of the heat wave. So from Friday night until Sunday night, no one had air conditioning or fans in my neighborhood, which is one of the more prosperous ones in the city. One supermarket lost all of its refrigerated goods, because the power company kept saying, 'It will be on in a few hours.' Yeah, right. ==> Valerie ------------------------------ From: Mike Mendelson Date: 18 Jul 95 10:26:11 EDT Subject: cd stores in vancouver/seattle/portland/san francisco Would anybody care to share their wisdom regarding which are the best CD stores in these cities (and esp. vancouver and seattle), both new and used, and approximate locations/directions to them? Much appreciated! - -mjm (mjm@zylab.mhs.compuserve.com) ------------------------------ From: Marion Kippers Date: Tue, 18 Jul 1995 17:37:45 +0200 Subject: Varttina concerts? Hi all, Quick question: does anybody know if there is any chance that Varttina will perform sometime in the not too far away future, somewhere not too far away from the Netherlands, or maybe even _in_ the Netherlands? Or more precise: is there a tour schedule or something like that available for Varttina? Thanks! Best wishes, Marion ______________________________________________________________ Marion Kippers Wolters Kluwer Academic Publishers Automation Department Dordrecht, The Netherlands Marion.Kippers@wkap.nl "Leave the shadows dancing..." (OP) ______________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ From: Neile Graham Date: Tue, 18 Jul 1995 09:58:03 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: cd stores in vancouver/seattle/portland/san francisco Heh. Don't worry. We'll take you to them. - --Neile On 18 Jul 1995, Mike Mendelson wrote: > Would anybody care to share their wisdom regarding which are the best CD > stores in these cities (and esp. vancouver and seattle), both new and > used, and approximate locations/directions to them? Much appreciated! > > -mjm (mjm@zylab.mhs.compuserve.com) > > > > ------------------------------ From: "Chandra L. Sriram" Date: Tue, 18 Jul 1995 13:15:29 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Aural Gratification Summer Clearance! (and update stuff) just wondering, what does the hr shirt look like? chandra ------------------------------ From: "Chandra L. Sriram" Date: Tue, 18 Jul 1995 13:26:29 -0400 (EDT) Subject: lisa gerrard, the mirror pool yay, just checked the web page for dcd and the mirror pool now has a release date of august 21/22!! i take it this is now a firm date since there is cover art and sound bytes loaded. too bad this computer is too pathetic to give them a listen. anyway, that's my happy news for the day. chandra ------------------------------ From: Gentle Moose Date: Tue, 18 Jul 1995 11:01:35 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Danielle Dax mailing list/etc I'm looking for a newsgroup or mailing list (or something in IUMA/etc) that deals with Danielle Dax, and, since this list is inundated with an awful lot of music I like, I thought this might be a good place to start. Any hints? safe dreams --Gentle Moose J'ai tant reve' de toi que tu perds ta realite'... --Desnos ------------------------------ From: mapravat@Prairienet.org (Mitchell A. Pravatiner) Date: Tue, 18 Jul 95 13:23:39 CDT Subject: The morning after the morning after the afternoon before I have just seen the full report on Chip's party, and have been appalled at the number of typos in my bits, that I failed to catch at the time. Those tiny keys certainly have consequences for the appearance of the final product. Rest assured, friends, that I can spell better than that. Of course, my friends on PMC-MOO--whose server doesn't accommodate backspacing over mistakes--would probably take one look at it all, and conclude that I was spelling the same way I always do :-). While we're on the subject of real-time talk servers: it is unfortunate that our MUSH room and our IRC channel have both fallen by the wayside lately. They would have been great things to utilize during the party. I regret having missed the beer on a bagel. I still regret having missed out on Baderbrau bagels when they were the flavor of the month at Jacobs Bros. one month last year. On the other hand, I found the Capital Punishment hot sauce perceptibly milder than the others I sampled during that part of the festivities. Dunno why, but the concept of hot sauce on a bagel has just popped into my head for no apparent reason :-). WRT Valerie's plaintive query from the _locus quo_ (as they said on _Rumpole_ that evening), "Where are you, Mitch, when we need you?," (apparently in connection with the wish that the intellectual level of the conversation at the time had been something higher than _Baywatch_ or the Three Stooges), I probably could have cited the apocryphal factoid that Blackie's restaurant and bar, across from Dearborn Station in the South Loop, was once the site of an epic food fight between the Three Stooges and the Marx Brothers. Beyond that, you may well have been on your own no matter what. I suggest that for times when I'm not available, a copy of _Libido_ magazine be kept handy, which would do nothing more than offer a more upmarket source of stimulation than Babewatch, but then again, that might be a useful function all by itself :-) :-('. WRT Matt's discovery of a new benefit from backslapping: while browsing in B. Dalton this morning, I actually ran across a children's book on the nature and origins of flatulence. Go figure. Welcoming Jessica back to the ranks of active ectophiles. The Carolina Toasternet being down for service today, it seems like a perfect day to go home early and actually record some HBP material. Mitch - ------------------------------ "Cows are peaceful. If we had cows as leaders, the worst they could do if a war broke out is shoot milk at us instead of guns." - --Mike Gurstein ------------------------------ End of ecto-digest V2 #159 ************************** ======================================================================== Please send any questions or comments about the list to ecto-owner@nsmx.rutgers.edu