From: owner-ecto-digest To: ecto-digest@ns2.rutgers.edu Subject: ecto-digest V2 #145 Reply-To: ecto@nsmx.rutgers.edu Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Wednesday, 28 June 1995 Volume 02 : Number 145 The Ecto digest is now being generated automatically. Please send problems and questions to: ecto-owner@nsmx.rutgers.edu. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lakrahn@iw.net (Laurel Krahn) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 1995 08:19:08 -0500 Subject: Re: ecto-digest V2 #139 John (Calamari) wrote: >From: lakrahn@iw.net (Laurel Krahn) >> >>(While you're there, websurfers might wanna check out my personal web page >>at http://www.iw.net/~lakrahn/ or my music page at >>http://www.iw.net/~lakrahn/music.html. I'm finally starting to add stuff >>again... :) ) >I'm working on my own homepage. Will you care if I add a link to >yours? Nope, go right ahead. I don't mind links, they're encouraged actually. :) >We miss you on FTE. (Or at least I do. Dunno about everyone >else... we been too busy lately debating abortion and censorship >to wax nostalgic; I suppose it's better you weren't there.) Sigh. Those are subjects that might have gotten me riled up. Then again, I might've just ignored it all. I've been so busy... I'm not on many lists these days... Ecto, Leadheads, siblings, indie list. That's about it, I think. Ohyeah, and I administer signal-to-noise (the Flash Girls mailing list). I'm on a number of professional mailing lists that are terribly dry reading at times (compriv and other internet lists). 'Salways good to be missed. Occasionally I wonder what's going on on fte or rdt, but then the urge passes. I keep finding I'm still on some mailing lists that I forgot I subscribed to. That's always a shocker when a digest floats in from a list I've forgotten about. And John, stop worrying about whether you are welcome on Ecto. Seems to me you are. Don't be so darn paranoid! Laurel Krahn /// lakrahn@iw.net Director of Operations /// 800.386.IWAY Iway Internet Services /// http://www.iw.net/ Internet Access for South Dakota (and beyond) ------------------------------ From: "Matt Bittner" Date: Wed, 28 Jun 1995 09:02:36 -0500 Subject: Laura Love... Lovers (heh heh), I've typed in the "feature" article on Omaha-born Laura Love for Meredith. If anybody else is interested in it, email me and I'll send it your way. Currently listening to Jewel _pieces of you_ and everytime I listen to it, I'm amazed at her musicianship. She is wonderful, isn't she? Before that, I had Nan Vernon's _Manta Ray_ in, and completely enjoy that, as well. Next in will be Mae Moore's _bohemia_. There is so much wonderful music in this world, and the radio stations are missing out on the best. At least the ectophiles of the world know better, and have a greater understanding of what music is - and should be. Baby update: he's upto 10lbs, 8oz, and growing. Three weeks out, and I feel like a zombie. Thank heavens for Mountain Dew and thick, strong tea. Unfortunately, I'm starting to feel the effects of it all, and need to cut back. Anyway, Aaron's doing great, and can tell when mom/dad/dog-Augusto is in the room. I still think his first words will be "Arf", or "No Gusto". I'm waiting for him to look at me at say "Dad, put in some Happy, will you?" Matt Bittner meba@cso.com Omaha, Nebraska "It must be inordinately taxing to be such a boob." ------------------------------ From: anthony@xymox.apana.org.au (Anthony Horan) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 95 23:31:02 EDT Subject: Re: Happy to be back Shelly wrote: >Hi! It's been awhile since I've been on the internet and I just resubscribed >after about 6 months so forgive me if this has already been discussed. #1 - Welcome back! I'm back too!! :-) I've just resubscribed to Ecto after first losing my local newsfeed, then having my entire feed moved to a site that doesn't gate Ecto to a newsgroup, and then buying a PC-compatible to replace the crusty old Amiga and having to set up a uucp system on it. Now I can gate Ecto to my own, private, local newsgroup. :-) I've got lots of news and things, but for the time being (I'm just testing to see if this gets out) a couple of interesting items: - - Those interested in Max Sharam might be interested in the two Web sites that have been set up on her. The first is an unofficial one that has live photos, album info, and two reviews written by, err, me. :-) You'll find it lurking at the URL http://www.rp.csiro.au/~pjordan/max/. The second is the official web site set up by (I believe) Max's management and/or record company, and while it's short in hard info, it has some nice written prose and a handful of beautifully scanned images from the various record covers, done from the source images - including the imfamous mermaid shot. You'll find that one at http://www.com.au/max/. - - Lisa Cerbone's album is out in Australia! It's the Ichiban version, being distributed by Shock here. And shock was what I got when I listened to it - it's had a heap of additional recording done to it and been remixed. Not that it sounds bad, just that the original version was fine. It doesn't hinder the songs, though (ok, well "Amber" loses its appeal a bit with so much going on) and I'm glad it's finally out here - I was trying to talk a few labels here to give it a try late last year. I'll be reviewing the album for Beat, of course, and will post that here when I do ("Finally!" I hear Eric sigh... :-) - - There's a fabulous new album out by a Melbourne singer and songwriter named Kerri Simpson. It's called "The Arousing", it's a self-financed recording, and it's one of the most compelling albums I've heard in a long time. Rather than try and describe it, I'll post my album and live reviews in seperate messages (she's doubly brilliant live) and you can read for yourself... If anyone wants a copy, I am told I can get them at wholesale price for the Ecto people :-). If you're reading this and you're in Melbourne, Kerri's playing the next two Sundays at the Cherry Tree, Balmain Street, Richmond, from 8.30pm, with her band VeVe. Trust me on this one, it's really good. Oh, and Kerri has a web page too (doesn't everyone? :-) that you can also email her from. It's at http://www.slnsw.gov.au/ausmusic/s/simpson-kerri/simpson-kerri-i.html (yup, a long one :). Ah, it's good to be back. I've missed Ecto a lot. Oh, one last thing - there were about 80 messages left unanswered on my Amiga when I changed machines, so if I haven't replied to something important (or trivial!) that you sent, rest assured that I'm most definitely back, and it's safe to mail me again. :) - - Anthony - -- - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Anthony Horan, Melbourne Australia - anthony@xymox.apana.org.au Physical mail: P.O. Box 40, Malvern 3144, Victoria, Australia "The red sky was bleeding glimpses of heaven, in sections of seven..." - Rose Chronicles reaching lyrical perfection on "Awaiting Eternity" - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- - -- - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Anthony Horan, Melbourne Australia - anthony@xymox.apana.org.au Physical mail: P.O. Box 40, Malvern 3144, Victoria, Australia "The red sky was bleeding glimpses of heaven, in sections of seven..." - Rose Chronicles reaching lyrical perfection on "Awaiting Eternity" - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: Richard Holmes Date: Wed, 28 Jun 95 07:45:51 -0700 Subject: Bjork, Brenda Kahn, Laura Love,... ... and a lilting, lovingly luscious Litha to all, albeit a little late! We are certainly feeling the somewhat sudden effects of the Summer Solstice in northern California with 100+ temperatures, which usually don't come near the coast until August, September, or October..... Anyway, I've been listening to the new Bjork (Post), and find it quite enjoyable... perhaps the most wonderful thing is that it is so decidedly Bjork! I certainly appreciate her uniqueness, and somewhat like the 2nd half better than the first - Cover Me, Headphones, Isobel, all really cool. I can't help being honored to be allowed to glimpse into the "private universes" of so many vibrant members of our species via their music... It is, like "Debut", very electronic / synthesized, but has some interesting rhythms nonetheless (I know how hard it is to get subtle syncopations and stuff in "off-the-shelf" rhythm modules). Looking at the liner notes, a few of the songs appear to be "keyboards and programming", but many have various other instruments and percussion thrown in (harpsichord, orchestra, brass, hammer dulcimer, percussion). Also picked up, 'cuz it was on sale, and I liked what I heard in CMJ sampler, was Lisa Cerbone's "Close Your Eyes"... the music is surprisingly perky with respect to much of the subject matter... for some reason it reminds me of Lush, but with discernible lyrics (and I love Lush when I'm in certain moods). By listening to her, I thought, "she *must* write her own songs!" and sure ''nuff, when I looked at the liner notes, she does! Electric guitars here, and drums, for those who care... Lisa herself plays guitar, keyboard, and percussion as well as vocals (I'm sticking this "orchestration" stuff in here in an attempt to be objective and useful to other ectophiles, rather than *only* giving surrealistic, subjective impressions). What other stuff does Lisa C. do, and how does it compare? I just got Laura Love's "Helvetica Bold" (and you've gotta love this cd, as well as the liner notes' definitions of "Helvetica" and "Bold"!)... I wrote in a while ago reporting on the collection recently put out by Putumayo. The collection evidently selects some of the more "danceable" tunes, but I do like some of the quieter selections on "Helvetica Bold" (such as "500 miles", "Inside the Reason", "I'm So Lonesome I Could Cry", "Nothing But Kindness", "Wayfaring Stranger") as well. If you're wondering, yes she does write her own songs (6 of 10 on this CD, 10 of 11 on the collection). I bought this release immediately when I realized I already stood a good chance of being thwarted from my goal of obtaining everything this woman's ever done, when my order of "Z Therapy" to cdconnection.com was returned as "not available". :-( On the up side, she does some of that marvelous Afro-Celt yodeling on "Hi Divide Oh" ("where in the world uh synthesis oh, where in the world uh symbiosis, where in the world there no psychosis, where in the world there no divide..."). And the liner notes have the words to "A Ha Me A Riddle I Day", unlike the collection, as well as info and pictures of the band members (really like the congas, ocarina, tongue drum, shaker eggs, dumbek, triangle, acoustic guitar, bongos and vocals by Linda Severt too!). Like other selections by Laura, mostly acoustic, with incredible rhythms and vocals, intense energy at times, and wonderfully different. And yet another recent acquisition, just because I saw it and remembered hearing her on the radio, is Brenda Kahn's "Epiphany in Brooklyn", on Columbia Record / Sony Entertainment's (trademarked!?!?!) "Chaos" label (what would Eris think?!)... anyway, yet another haunting slice of someone's world... I like the mandolin, acoustic guitar, and cello too. If I could describe the topics of the songs briefly, it would be about "lost souls"; human beings struggling with the lack of humanity in present-day society (but perhaps humans, by their nature, are "inhuman" until they actually evolve to the point that as a group they can manage their societies in such a way as to realize their dreams of a loving and accepting culture? another discussion...) Cuts which stood out in my mind were "Mojave Winters", "She's In Love", heck, all of them... It is very different in a lot of ways to what I usually listen to (which doesn't say much, because most of what I listen to is quite different with respect to one another... people at work can never figure out what type of music I'll like, bikini kill, rap, or early Happy Rhodes...) Does anyone else know what else she's done (I saw the one with a woman swallowing a goldfish on it, but haven't gotten it yet). Her songs all seem like such reflections of the chaos and disharmony which is manifest in this world, even in their effects on me, because I really identify with the alienation and frustration *I perceive* in the songs, but when I go read the words, I find they're really about different topics than I first *felt*, but the feeling is still valid -- so I guess what I'm trying to say is that the songs speak on many levels, because one can "understand" them without logically understanding them.... so I guess we can be thankful that some people are able to transform the discord around us into art; so is chaos the source of poetry? You be the judge... "She's in love with the man that she always wanted to be ... There were some rehab bikers and their metal-chick babes... Smashing into brick walls in a purple haze... Years seem to drop like flies in that mud... You wake up younger, dumber and not in love... It's so hard, it makes me sigh... He's been lying on that couch since the 4th of July... It's sad, it's sorry, and I'm starting to think... I could down this damn world in one good drink... She's in love..." -BK Well, enough for now, keep writing that ecto stuff... PS: I am listening to an Opal cd (Happy Nightmare Baby) and noticed the singer is Kendra Smith; is this the same Kendra receiving mention here, and if so, how does Opal compare to her recent stuff (the date on the CD here says 1987). PS Again: Does anyone know if Lemon Kittens are still in print, cuz I like Danielle Dax... - -Richard (BlueFire on #ecto) ------------------------------ From: Neile Graham Date: Wed, 28 Jun 1995 09:49:01 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Smith, Morrissette Hello-- I have been listening to lots of music I need to review, but wanted to say a couple of things quickly. Richard was asking about Kendra Smith--yes it is the same person but the sound is not similar at all. _Five Ways of Disappearing_ is highly produced. I'm enjoying it, but the old Opal work is far more direct? moody? focused? I dunno. Also look for her disc with the Guild of Temporal Adventurers. After obsessing on the "You Oughtta Know" single for a couple of days I happened upon a used copy of the full-length disc. All I can say is that I'm glad I only paid $7.99. Though there are a couple of good songs--two that are almost as strong as "You Oughtta Know," which is already wearing out its welcome on the radio in my head--it's mostly pretty weak songwriting. The two good songs are also very, very like "You Oughtta Know" (the first cut and the final a cappella "hidden" one). Anyway, this is definitely a check-it-out-before-you-commit disc. Especially when there's so much wonderful stuff out there--I promise to do some reviewing asap. - --Neile ------------------------------ From: Jeffrey Hanson Date: Wed, 28 Jun 1995 10:22:33 -0700 Subject: New Albums Hi folks! Recently purchased some new CDs that I thought deserved mention on ecto. First off, the new Alison Moyet Singles collection was released yesterday. It's a must for any Alison Moyet fans--contains 20 songs from both Yaz and solo days (only 3 from Yaz). Includes two new tracks, a cover of "First Time Ever I Saw Your Face" and a new Moyet-penned song "Solid Wood". Best of the older inclusions are "That Ole Devil Called Love" and the somewhat hard to find "Love Letters". Great buy for both old and new fans. In fact, if it just had 3 more songs (Midnight, Where Hides Sleep and Blow, Wind Blow), I'd say it would really be all that's really required to own of Alison. Also picked up the new Deep Forest--I like it much more than their first, but I doubt it will do as well. Less danceable, more accordians, but some great vocals by Marta Sebestyen. Being heralded as "Deep Forest go to Transylvania". Also, Johnette Napolitano/Holly Vincent's Vowel Movement--this is pretty good grungy stuff. Kind of reminescent of PJ Harvey's feedback & noise, but surprisingly not a "vocal" album. Pretty interesting stuff, will take a few more listens before my mind is made up, but I actually found it pretty listenable, and I'm usually not into this grungy, electric-guitar based stuff. "Jesus" sounds like Concrete Blonde meets the Ramones, in a fun kind of way. Like to hear others comments on this one. Jeff Hanson ------------------------------ From: Richard Holmes Date: Wed, 28 Jun 95 10:27:12 -0700 Subject: Re: Smith, Morrissette Neile Graham writes: >Richard was asking about Kendra Smith--yes it is the same person but the >sound is not similar at all. _Five Ways of Disappearing_ is highly >produced. I'm enjoying it, but the old Opal work is far more direct? >moody? focused? I dunno. Also look for her disc with the Guild of >Temporal Adventurers. > I'm curious about how much of a hand Kendra had in each of the albums... It is always (IMHO) really nice when the singer has a hand in the writing. It states on Opal that "all songs written by David Roback and Kendra Smith"; David Roback then goes on to produce Mazzy Star with Hope Sandoval. The credits on the only Mazzy Star album I own ("She Hangs Brightly") are very vague (merely that the "credits" were Hope Sandoval, David Roback, and Sylvia Gomez, with no further writing / performing distinctions made). Thanks, Richard (BlueFire on #ecto) ------------------------------ From: ItsyBitsyS@aol.com Date: Wed, 28 Jun 1995 14:09:32 -0400 Subject: Here's why... Where have I been for the last 6 months? I like to tell people I'm hibernating. Why havn't I been on Ecto? After taking the train to Philly from California and back, plugging Happy to anyone who would listen ("What on earth would make you do such a thing?....Who?), and seeing Happy live twice (something I thought I'd never do) I knew that I could die a Happy woman. I also knew the smell of my brain cells frying, folks though I know I'm gonna get yelled at I must warn you, It's possible to suffer from Happy overload. But after finally making myself buy Fumbling Towards Ecstasy I realised there is life after Happy. Now I'm getting better, and Happy is THE BEST, THERE'S NO ONE BETTER and NO ONE can change my mind. One more thing, I am very happy to hear all this talk about Laura Love. Her music is very cool though fairly indescribable. Let me just suggest you catch her live. I saw her at The Redwood Mountain Faire here in Santa Cruz CA, and let me tell you a few bars into Amazing Grace acapella, the crowd was in the palm of her hand. No joke! Even my mom let out an awe stricken wow, and I know that is very impressive. See, and I thought Laura would be too Afro-Celtic for Ecto, pretty soon we might see some neo-folk here (Can I say the F word on Ecto?). till next time Shelly ------------------------------ From: Greg Bossert Date: Wed, 28 Jun 95 14:31:47 EDT Subject: this bounced to me; i'm bouncing it back to ecto Received: from ns2.rutgers.edu (ns2.rutgers.edu [128.6.21.2]) by hardees.rutgers.edu (8.6.12+bestmx+oldruq+newsunq+grosshack/8.6.12) with ESMTP id EAA26608 for ; Wed, 28 Jun 1995 04:08:36 -0400 From: owner-ecto@ns2.rutgers.edu Received: (from daemon@localhost) by ns2.rutgers.edu (8.6.12+bestmx+oldruq+newsunq/8.6.12) id EAA19119; Wed, 28 Jun 1995 04:08:33 -0400 Date: Wed, 28 Jun 1995 04:08:33 -0400 Message-Id: <199506280808.EAA19119@ns2.rutgers.edu> To: owner-ecto@ns2.rutgers.edu Subject: BOUNCE ecto@ns2.rutgers.edu: Header line too long (>128) >From bossert Wed Jun 28 04:08:27 1995 Received: from sunset.backbone.olemiss.edu (sunset.backbone.olemiss.edu [130.74.1.75]) by ns2.rutgers.edu (8.6.12+bestmx+oldruq+newsunq/8.6.12) with ESMTP id EAA19070 for ; Wed, 28 Jun 1995 04:08:26 -0400 Received: from kiri.nexus.olemiss.edu by sunset.backbone.olemiss.edu via SMTP (950215.SGI.8.6.10/930416.SGI) for id DAA03914; Wed, 28 Jun 1995 03:08:26 -0500 Message-Id: <199506280808.DAA03914@sunset.backbone.olemiss.edu> X-Sender: kiri@sunset.backbone.olemiss.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 28 Jun 1995 03:08:27 -0500 To: ecto@ns2.rutgers.edu >From: MAILER-DAEMON@sunset.backbone.olemiss.edu (Mail Delivery Subsystem) (by way of kiri@sunset.backbone.olemiss.edu (kiri hargie)) Subject: Re: A Literary Question >It's called _Memnoch the Devil_ and should be out mid-July. It's rumored to >be the last of the Vampire Chronicles, and as much as I love TVC and Anne Rice, >I have to say I'm kinda glad. _The Tale of the Body Thief_ was dreadful and > > July 12 is what the posters say down here.... kiri Kirstin A. Hargie Bitnet: byhargie@umsvm Dept. of Biology Internet: kiri@sunset.backbone.olemiss.edu University, MS 38677 WWW: http://www.olemiss.edu/~kiri ------------------------------ From: Mike Mendelson Date: 28 Jun 95 14:48:53 EDT Subject: Anagram Man Sorry... this was just too good to keep to myself: Top Ten Anagrams for "Information Superhighway" ------------------------------------------------------------ 10. Enormous, hairy pig with fan 9. Hey, ignoramus -- win profit? Ha! 8. Oh-oh, wiring snafu: empty air 7. When forming, utopia's hairy 6. A rough whimper of insanity 5. Oh, wormy infuriating phase 4. Inspire humanity, who go far 3. Waiting for any promise, huh? 2. Hi-ho! Yow! I'm surfing Arpanet! And the number one anagram for "Information Superhighway": 1. New utopia? Horrifying sham - -man agra nam ------------------------------ From: Greg Bossert Date: Wed, 28 Jun 95 15:58:56 EDT Subject: Muse and Muses Paula ponders: > I'm not sure if this journal [Muse] has been mentioned here before. nor am i, but i'm glad she mentions it now :) it's a rarity for the Web: tasteful (and tasty) b/w photos and genuine full paragraphs of text! plus, i swear that they are working off of my cd collection, or at least from back digests of Ecto (though Lydia Lunch is a personal favorite i rarely see mention here ;) there's even two of my current heaviest rotators, Nan Vernon and Bettie Serveert, in the last issue :) odd quote from the Clouds interview: > They want to remain real people like some of their personal favorites > such as Joni Mitchell and Kate Bush, and not imagemakers like those > who are part of our pop culture. um, yeah, i think of KaTe as 'real people'. yeh. yup. er. re the Throwing Muses discussion (i've always wondered how to parse that -- is it a reference to a mythical form of lawn bowling ["wheeeEEEEeee*oof*" "good toss, Zeus"] or does it pay homage to Hurlichore, the hitherto obscure 10th sister?): i agree with woj (ecto reels, stunned... or perhaps not): the best and most blindingly glorious recordings by TM are their 4AD releases; the initial, self-titled album, the "chains changed" EP, and their track on the 4AD compilation "lonely is an eyesore" (whence the albums title...) the bad, sad days for Ms. Hersh, by her own accounts, and not for the squeamish, perhaps, but Kristen and Tanya's voices and guitars were never so wild and tangled in their later Sire releases. of those later efforts, _the real ramona_ is the one i listen to most often, along with _hips and makers_ and _star_. but i do listen to them all. > I like seeing diminutive, shy-looking women thrash away at bar chords > and such on national tv. one must concur... ...and footah! - --+ greg bossert rutgers university network services +-- - --+ bossert@noc.rutgers.edu +-- - --+ http://www-ns.rutgers.edu/~bossert +-- - --+ i have never been afraid to change -- Happy +-- - --+ the circumstances of the world -- Rhodes +-- ------------------------------ From: SBI!200HUBBARD!AMYD@lmbinc.attmail.com Date: Wed, 28 Jun 1995 16:36:00 +0000 Subject: rain, happy, vampires brni's post from a few days back about stepping out in the rain was enjoyable = sorry i forgot to mention it earlier. I try to get out during the summer - in the rain- as much as possible. I remember one instance where I was walking from the commuter train station (for those of you who care - or know Chicago - it was Union Station) to my office (which is a bit of a hike) listening to "Close to the Edge" in my headphones. It was one of those warm and humid mornings, and it was POURING buckets!.. I was dressed in a dress-type outfit, and had no umbrella. At first I was pissed off that my outfit was ruined (not to mention the bad hair implications) - but halfway there - I began to enjoy it. The music was so uplifting, the rain was warm and soothing. I felt like a little kid again. Funny how mother nature throws us a curve every now and then...to remind us about the important things in life :-) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- Got the new issue of Rhodeways. Great as ever! Happy talks about composition (how she created some of her songs). Some good pictures of the Hapster..... I really needed to see it in my mailbox after the crummy afternoon I had yesterday! Hats off to Sharon once again! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------- WRT Anne Rice.... I am a big fan of her work (all of her work - even the "other" stuff she's written i.e the Sleeping Beauty series) but was bored to tears by "Body Thief". I was really pissed off (gee how many times can I use that term in one post?...) at Lestat for being such a wuss... don't get me started... I am glad that she is putting that series to rest with this final one. On to greener pastures I say! (altho I don't know how much greener one can get besides New Orleans.... ) ---------------------------------------------------- one more thing.. I saw Batman..! It was not half bad... ! I have to admit that i enjoyed it - Val Kilmer is a MUCH better Batman than Keaton ever could be... of course the female "love interest" was useless - I could do without Nicole Kidman in this movie (uh oh.. I smell flames..) but the surprise of surprises was Jim Carrey! Some of the best one-liners since Pulp Fiction! (the script was pretty clever) I also thought the sets were well done . . very Blade Runner-like. I give it two snaps up! //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// /////////////////////// "Anyone feel like a fried egg?!!!" Amy p.s. all this talk about Yes (no pun intended) has got my wittle bwain woking.. someone kindly e-mail me the subscription instructions for Notes from the Edge (if anyone out there knows?) ------------------------------ From: das freshmaker! Date: Wed, 28 Jun 1995 20:15:44 -0400 Subject: Re: [Muse] Paula sez: > I'm not sure if this journal [Muse] has been mentioned here before. that reminds me. a chalkhills (xtc mailing list) subscriber wrote an interesting paper about women on the net, specifically with resepct to music-related mailing lists. for those who are interested in this, point your web browser to http://gdbdoc.gdb.org/~patty/ and follow the links from there. woj ------------------------------ From: das freshmaker! Date: Wed, 28 Jun 1995 20:45:37 -0400 Subject: lemon kittens Richard Holmes sez: >PS Again: Does anyone know if Lemon Kittens are still in print, cuz I >like Danielle Dax... the two lemon kittens albums were (finally) recently released on disc in the uk. contact your local, decent record store as you'll probably have to order them specially (then again, tower or the like might actually stock them). in any event, they are available. woj ------------------------------ From: das freshmaker! Date: Wed, 28 Jun 1995 20:56:07 -0400 Subject: kendra smith Neile Graham writes: >_Five Ways of Disappearing_ is highly produced. I'm enjoying it, >but the old Opal work is far more direct? moody? focused? I dunno. hmmm. moody, certainly. i think it's more raw, in the emotional sense, as well. i wouldn't say _five ways of disappearing_ is as much produced as veiled. with opal, everything was bared; now, it's hidden and impenetrable. >Also look for her disc with the Guild of Temporal Adventurers. i really should pick that up sometime. i listened to it once back in the ol'wesu days (meredith probably even played tracks from it on her show), but never got around to finding myself a copy. Richard Holmes sez: >I'm curious about how much of a hand Kendra had in each of the >albums... well, artistic differences were the cause for kendra's leavetaking from opal. david wanted to take the band into popular music (which he has done admirably with mazzy star) and kendra was one for the experimental side of things. >David Roback then goes on to produce Mazzy Star with Hope Sandoval. kendra referred hope to david (or maybe david to hope, i can't recall). my understanding is that hope doesn't have much input into the music side of the songwriting, though i can't imagine that she isn't involved in the lyrics. in other words, no clue for sure. ;) woj ------------------------------ End of ecto-digest V2 #145 ************************** ======================================================================== Please send any questions or comments about the list to ecto-owner@nsmx.rutgers.edu