From: owner-ecto-digest To: ecto-digest@ns2.rutgers.edu Subject: ecto-digest V2 #73 Reply-To: ecto@nsmx.rutgers.edu Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Wednesday, 5 April 1995 Volume 02 : Number 073 The Ecto digest is now being generated automatically. Please send problems and questions to: ecto-owner@nsmx.rutgers.edu. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: elionwyr@onix.com (Lewars Dusti L.) Date: Mon, 03 Apr 95 13:42:16 EST Subject: Date: Mon, 03 Apr 95 13:42:16 EST First off: Thanks all for the list of the Fairy Tale series books! I did get them all, after all - I had almost wished I missed one or two, just so I could have the pleasure of finding more. :) Side notes - Yolen's "Briar Rose" blew me away completely. "Swordspoint" *would* make for an interesting addition to the series - I found it to be fresh and creative and have pushed it on a few other friends as a Must Read. And Terri Windling is just an amazing woman altogether. What's all this about Happy's first few albums being out of print? SAY it ain't SO!!! :( Re: Sinead's "Universal Mother" I think it's worthwhile if ONLY for "Fire on Babylon" (I hope I have the title right) - it's a major goosebump song. The lady is a treasure. Side-note: How does one get on the Boiled in Lead list? I tried like heck to do so and ended up on a mind machine/biofeedback list, which for the life of me I couldn't get back OFF of. Can anyone help me out? --<--<--@ Elionwyr @-->-->-- "I have spread my dreams under your feet; tread softly, for you tread upon my dreams..." ------------------------------ From: Mike Mendelson Date: 04 Apr 95 03:31:28 EDT Subject: mary black & rankin family Another show with good potential on its way to chicago at the park west on Wed. May 3. The rankin family are canadian and I actually saw something by them at a store here in chicago. They have a song on the canadian artist mountain stage CD, which I like a lot. Can anyone recommend a good cd or 2 from them that I can look for when I'm in Montreal in a couple of weeks? Also, while we're at it I noticed Frances Black's Talk To Me in the store as well. This is a fine album which I also recommend, though it is perhaps not as "progressive" or "alternative" as some of the other ecto-stuff. Still it is very nice. For that matter, I also like the Black Family stuff. It was interesting that Sarah chose paula to open for her. She made a point of saying that 2 females on 1 bill is just not done. I tried to come up with other cases of this but there aren't many. You would think that an audience coming to see 1 female artist would be more open to a female opener than an audience coming to see a male artists, wouldn't you? I've been listening to the Happy Rhodes interview dbx tdp tape #III and it is great. She keeps saying she's gonna tour -- yet still no tour. We wait with baited breath. ______________________________________________________________________ |--------------------------------.------------------------------------ | || mjm@zylab.mhs. /\/\ / /\/\ "No pinky ring hustlers, || || compuserve.com / / /_/ / / / No sabre-tooth neighbours" || |\_____________________________________________________________________/ \--------------------------------------------------------------------/ ------------------------------ From: WretchAwry Date: Tue, 4 Apr 95 3:30:57 EDT Subject: Re: Rebecca Jenkins Filmography? Hi, I just wanted to send a big thanks to everyone who wrote me about Rebecca. Looks like I've got a lot of things to catch up on. I completely forgot about Rebecca singing in "I've Heard The Mermaids Singing" even though we love that movie and own it on laserdisc. Anthony...I don't have access to WWW to add the film. Here's the listing as it appears in the TV Guide, if you want to do it: - ----- "Harvest For The Heart" (Made for Cable; 1994) After 20 years, a man (Ted Shackelford) returns to the family farm that his older brother (Ron White) is trying to keep from going under. Maddy: Rebecca Jenkins. - ----- (It was a lot better and deeper than that blurb makes it sound) I assume "Made for Cable" means Canadian Cable (???). It was a Canadian production and was filmed in Manitoba. Sue: we ended up not going to see "Tank Girl" but if I do I'll post to Ecto about it. Vickie ------------------------------ From: "Wolfgang T. Ullwer" Date: Tue, 04 Apr 95 16:59:11 +0200 Subject: ectoMush?! & Cosmic Ceiling Hi there, since I'm wasting my time in a MUD, I fear the opportunity to meet you all in our own ectoMush - it will be very dangerous to my work... On the other hand, I can't await the day of its creation. Michael, hugs and happy birthday to you; and: do what you feel that has to be done! :-) For those of you interested in German artists: BoBo In White Wooden Houses made their third album, called "Cosmic Ceiling". The first single, "Travel In My Mind", will be released within the next few days. I'm looking forward to it, 'cause pregnant woman are said to be especially creative... ;-) Bouncing happily around, this was Wolfgang speaking. - -- Ich habe keine eigene Meinung. | Wolfgang T. Ullwer Aber ich kenne auch die meines | Research Centre Juelich Arbeitgebers nicht. | isf031@zam001.zam.kfa-juelich.de ------------------------------ From: "steve (s.l.) fagg" Date: Tue, 4 Apr 1995 17:09:00 +0100 Subject: re:mary black & rankin family In message "mary black & rankin family", 'MJM@zylab.mhs.compuserve.com' writes: >You would think that an audience coming to see 1 female artist >would be more open to a female opener than an audience coming to >see a male artists, wouldn't you? Ah, but Mike... this ignores the well known fact that people going to see a show with a female headliner are really only going to see the male opening act. :-) - -- Steve Fagg a.k.a. Nightwol ( 'phone: +44-1279-402437 ) ( s.l.fagg@bnr.co.uk (work) nightwol@dircon.co.uk (home) ) *** We tried to add it all up and got merely sunrise. *** *** Try putting that in a letter to someone in exile. *** ------------------------------ From: albion moonlight Date: Tue, 4 Apr 1995 10:32:46 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Special Request I hate to stop lurking for such a non-Happy related issue, but... I need to get in touch with Michael Bravo (who's in Russia, right?). I wonder if anyone knows his e-mail address? Michael, if you read this, could you e-mail me directly? Thanks in advance. I apologize for interrupting the wonderful Sarah/Paula/Victoria talk. Neile and I saw Paula/Sarah last night (with Doug Burks) and are going to see Victoria Williams tonight. This must be a trend. Are they following each other accross the country? Jim albion@u.washington.edu ------------------------------ From: "Mitchell A. Pravatiner" Date: Tue, 4 Apr 95 16:01:13 EDT Subject: April foolery The beginning of April may to be as much bewared of as the ides of March. Yesterday the Toasternet mailer crashed again, leaving me to try to scroll thru the incoming on a terminal where the scroll lock was dysfunctioning. The experience bummed me out enough to keep me offline the rest of the day. (If it's going to crash again, at least let it be on Thursday and Friday, when I'll be at the Midwest sociological meetings.) On top of it all, I was down with a cold that had mne runny much of Sunday, and just run down enough to keep dozing off for an instant at a time while watching _Before Sunrise_ yesterday--but it remains an excellent picture, with a good performance by Julie Delpy. (While her performance in _White_ was also good [apropos Kiri's encomium therefor], I didn't like that film nearly as much as the two others in the Three Colors trilogy.) Last but least, the Flash Girls homepage seems chronically reluctant to connect. You can tell it's election day in Chicago when I give up WBEZ in favor of listening to the sampler of campaign-relevant music that I made after the primary (though being bummed out over the incessant pledge breaks this week also is a factor), and the first word that pops into my head when I read Amy's elliptical description of her neighborhood is "41st Ward." Maybe I'll finally return to normal when King Richard's latest _pro forma_ coronation has finally come and gone tomorrow. Sure hope so, in light of all the unfinished business that surrounds me :-). (Not to mention having made about umpteen typos just now while trying to type that last smiley--am I losing it this early in life, or what?) What exactly is a MUSH, anyway? How is it different from a MUD or the latter's various other derivatives? And are personas really essential? What's wrong with being oneself? On the bus home yesterday, I noticed for the first time in many instances of passing by it, that just a couple of blocks east of the real-life Rhodes Avenue stands Happy Food and Liquors. Is synchronicity still there if nobody notices it? :-) (Got it right the first time, for once.) 3 PM and all the incoming is read. Dunno why, but all the connotations of that seem positive to me. :-) Mitch (as I used to call myself on IRC, back when I had IRC) ------------------------------ From: MONTVILLE@zodiac.rutgers.edu Date: Tue, 04 Apr 1995 16:08:35 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Pete & Maura Kennedy, Lisa G. question Just two quick questions... 1) I've heard Pete and Maura Kennedy mentioned on this list, and they're playing at a local record store (Vintage Vinyl on Route 1, for you N'Jerseyans) an hour or two before Suddenly Tammy. Could someone tell me a little about them so I can decide if it's worth going early to catch them? 2) Could someone please settle a silly trivia debate? Namely, Lisa Germano: Violin or Viola? I can't find it in the liners of Happiness (which I picked up for $4 used last week -- yippie!) or GtG. I'm pretty sure I know, but I'd rather save myself the embarasment of being wrong :) Thanks! Chris M. -+- Chris Montville -+- Student -+- North Brunswick, NJ, USA -+- montville@zodiac.rutgers.edu-+-Ectophile, MSTy & Many things undefined ------------------------------ From: Cheri Villines Date: Tue, 4 Apr 1995 15:31:52 -0500 (CDT) Subject: two women on one bill.... > It was interesting that Sarah chose paula to open for her. > She made a point of saying that 2 females on 1 bill is just not done. > I tried to come up with other cases of this but there aren't many. > You would think that an audience coming to see 1 female artist > would be more open to a female opener than an audience coming to > see a male artists, wouldn't you? Sarah Hickman is opening for Nanci Griffith on the current tour. An excellent concert evening, by the way. Don't miss it if you have a chance to go. cheri ------------------------------ From: a wonderful wombat Date: Tue, 4 Apr 1995 18:23:42 -0400 Subject: haiku! (gesundheit!) ooo! i *love* haiku, though i don't know all the rules of writing them. hmmmm. let's see what i can some up with off the top of my head: fu blu ma li fills virtual missives bursting overflowing queue hmmm. how about: lilting softly voice singing from within our souls reaching for elsewhere uhhh. don't like that one mas much (even though it was written under the influence of the freedom sessions). oof. the juices aren't flowing (guess i'm not pregnant). woj ------------------------------ From: anja / garbanzo Date: Tue, 04 Apr 95 18:27:08 EDT Subject: MUSH room dedicated to Revvie (Rod Bourland) for ectofolk? Grocible (Neil K. Guy) and I were just discussing the MUSH idea on irc, and he mentioned that Rod had considering starting a MUSH room for ecto on Tinytim. Perhaps we could start one somewhere, and dedicate it to his memory? Just a thought. anja ------------------------------ From: Ulrich Grepel Date: Tue, 4 Apr 95 23:09:03 +0200 Subject: Re: some questions, answers, and random thoughts.... Hi! Ivrin quoted someone else: > > I also like Kate Bush, but none of her releases knocks me > > over like the "Hounds Of Love" - I have "The Dreaming", "The > > Kick Inside", and have heard "LionHeart". Would I be knocked > > out by "The Sensual World" or "Red Shoes"? Does anyone know the > > difference between the "normal" "Sensual World" and the "Sensual > > World (Picture CD) Import from Canada"? Does this have digital > > photos on the CD as well, or something? The only unanswered question is what's the difference between normal and picture CD edition of The Sensual World. No, it's not some kind of multimedia CD. It's just that there's a picture of Kate (sand running through the fingers) printed onto the disc itself. All other TSW releases are standard labeled (that is, text only). Bye, Uli - -- "Ein 32-Bit-Betriebssystem fuer uns?" - "Wozu? Wir haben doch zwei mit 16." [IBM ad promoting OS/2] ------------------------------ From: Ulrich Grepel Date: Tue, 4 Apr 95 23:17:52 +0200 Subject: Re: Heather concert & more Hi! Dirk wrote: > Uli wrote: > > > Yep: 75, 300, 1200 can only be continued by 3600, 10800, 32400, 97200... > > I don't know, what you are talking about, but 75, 300, 1200 should be > continued by 4800, 19200, 76800... - or am I wrong here? Eeek. Someone else noticed. I noticed as soon as I hit 'send'... > BTW, I'm going to see Heather Nova on Saturday in Bielefeld. Can't await > the concert :-) I'll see her on Thursday, can't wait either! > Does anyone know why Heather is filed under H and not under N everywhere? Not here! Bye, Uli - -- "Ein 32-Bit-Betriebssystem fuer uns?" - "Wozu? Wir haben doch zwei mit 16." [IBM ad promoting OS/2] ------------------------------ From: Jason and the tiny curly girl Date: Tue, 4 Apr 1995 19:39:07 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: MUSH room dedicated to Revvie (Rod Bourland) for ectofolk? I believe someone said they were doing so. I've already made one, it pretty much ready to go, but since the other person had the idea first I'd like to give him a shot to do it if he wants to. If not, then I'll publish the address. It isn't on tinytim (I put it on someplace that's less traveled and thus easier to log onto) jason On Tue, 4 Apr 1995, anja / garbanzo wrote: > Grocible (Neil K. Guy) and I were just discussing the MUSH idea on irc, and > he mentioned that Rod had considering starting a MUSH room for ecto on > Tinytim. > > Perhaps we could start one somewhere, and dedicate it to his memory? Just a > thought. > > anja > ------------------------------ From: jwaite@popmail.ucsd.edu (Jerene Waite) Date: Tue, 4 Apr 1995 18:58:44 -0700 Subject: [none] Veronica Sawyer Thu, 30 Mar 1995 17:50:35 -0800 (PST) wrote: >. . .there's some part of me that tries to or would >like to fall in love with the rare person whose music gets inside of >me and really moves me. Happy's lyrics are especially personal and there is little wonder that we can feel a close personal association with someone whom I, at least, have never met. Love, to me, is like chemistry: The tightness of the bond depends on how much we share. With musicians, as with other artists, they seem to be sharing so much of their hearts and souls with us (at times). But it's a one-way street. I, too, feel that if I knew HR, we could be very close. However, I have found in the past that sometimes artists who have created such incredibly beautiful works may be not such wonderful people at all. Sometimes it's the fame and fortune that perverts the soul, sometimes it's just the creative genius itself that makes it more difficult for the artist to be sensitive and caring in everyday life. I'm not saying this is true of our HR. Just a word of caution in throwing one's heart into groupie-fever. What I love is the music, wherever I can find it and whoever will make it for me so that it touches my soul in just the right spots! On that thread, I would like to say *THANK YOU* to ectophiles for informing me that music I like really is being currently created and disseminated. (It's so hard to find it without your help!) I learned of HR through a recommendation on the Old Ways mailing list. The worm wiggles on. ------------------------------ From: Robert Lovejoy Date: Tue, 4 Apr 1995 22:01:34 -0400 Subject: More news from Aural Gratification... Greetings! I have been favored with a fax from Susanne... Point the first: I passed along the original post about Charles DeLint quoting Happy in his new book. As I have deleted subsequent messages of that thread (I did read them!), would someone or someones please Email me all the particulars needed for Susanne to order a copy or two? I need the title, publisher, etc. A likely New Yawk Bookstore carrying this tome would also be appreciated, if possible. Thanks! 2. Susanne has asked us if we might be able to compile a list of on-line CD merchants which sell Hap's discs. Both Email and snailmail addresses are needed. Any of you who deal with these places are corially invited to send me the info, if you would. I'll collate and send it along. Three: Don't forget that all albums are available from AG directly. Vickie, SW suggests updating the FAQ if Ladyslipper is no longer carrying the first four, but notes that they can also order them from AG. All stores can order direct too! Quatro: Susanne is working to establish an internet address for AG which will feature direct album ordering. Stay tuned! Cinq: SW tells me that her schedule has been "frightening" of late, and that's why we've been in less contact. "No news is Good News". That's basically it, so thanks in advance for the DeLint info and CD.net.info - We now return you to Ecto, which is already in progress. Robert the Elder ------------------------------ From: THE OLIVE-LOAF VIGILANTE Date: Tue, 04 Apr 1995 23:05:15 -0500 (EST) Subject: sarah sells and other things Hi! I'm going to see Robyn Hitchcock at Toad's Place in New Haven, CT tomorrow night (Tamar will also be there -- she doesn't post much nowadays because she's spending too much time with overvirile rodents, but she's still here). If anybody else is going, be sure to say hello -- I'll be wearing a green Robyn t-shirt with the words "VIVA SEA-TAC" on it. WFUV is doing their spring fund drive this week, and this morning things were pretty slow until they offered Sarah McLachlan's Freedom Sessions CD+MM as a premium with a $60 pledge. They got 7 $60 pledges in the next 20 minutes, and doubled their goal for the hour. :) It helped that they played a few select- ions from the EP, too. Then after all their copies of it were gone they went back to being slow again... it was rather amusing. The moral: Sarah Sells. Interesting. Speaking of Sarah in a rather peripheral manner, any lurkers out there in/near/ around Halifax? woj is already there and I'm heading up that way on Friday for a long weekend to seek out my roots and see if there are any relatives left up there. If there's anyone around there who would like to get together between Saturday and Monday, drop me or woj (woj@remus.rutgers.edu) a line and we'll work something out! Failing that, if anyone has any suggestions for good places to eat and/or check out live music in Halifax, please let us know. I asked Cathy from Nettwerk to check with Sarah and get back to me, but I guess Sarah has better things to do... :) Time for bed. A belated CONGRATULATIONS to the University of Connecticut Huskies, who are the best women's basketball team on the planet without a doubt. About time somebody put my favorite sport on the map! :) +==========================================================================+ |Meredith Tarr meth@delphi.com| |Boonton, NJ USA finger info at: mtarr@eagle.wesleyan.edu| +==========================================================================+ |"Though she's just in her twenties, Sarah McLachlan is a throwback to the | | days when female singers weren't expected to cuss like truck drivers." | | -- The New Yorker magazine, March 20, 1995 | +==========================================================================+ ------------------------------ From: THE OLIVE-LOAF VIGILANTE Date: Tue, 04 Apr 1995 23:16:40 -0500 (EST) Subject: Lisa Germano and Lotus??? Hi! Just saw a new commercial for Lotus software, the one showing companies that send their workers on weekend survival trips to help foster teamwork on the job (gack). Anyway, I *swear* the music behind that is from Lisa Germano's _On The Way Down From The Moon Palace_ album -- has somebody else seen this? I'm 99.9% sure I'm right, but I'd like corroboration. Thanks. :) Meredith meth@delphi.com ------------------------------ From: Michael Matthews Date: Wed, 5 Apr 1995 03:30:16 -0400 Subject: Today's your birthday, friend... i*i*i*i*i*i i*i*i*i*i*i *************** *****HAPPY********* **************BIRTHDAY********* *************************************************** *************************************************************************** **************** Michael E. Bravo (mbravo@alcatel.spb.su) ***************** *************************************************************************** -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Michael E. Bravo Mon April 05 1971 Dandelion Wine Brion McIntosh Sun April 06 1958 Aries David Dixon Tue April 07 1970 Aries Klaus Kluge Sun April 10 1960 Unicorn Steve VanDevender Sun April 10 1966 Racer Art Liestman Fri April 10 1953 Repeat Michael Bowman Wed April 11 1962 Aries Wolfgang Ullwer Fri April 11 1969 Widder Stuart Myerburg Mon April 14 1969 Aries T-Bone Wed April 15 1992 happy cat Jeff Hanson Sat April 16 1966 Aries Michael Klouda Mon April 17 1967 Aries Harry Foster Sat April 21 1956 NiceGuy Angelos Kyrlidis Fri April 22 1966 Taurus Kjetil Torgrim Homme Thu April 23 1970 Taurus Pablo Iglesias Thu April 23 1964 Positive Jeff Burka Thu April 24 1969 GoFlyAKite Christine Waite Tue April 25 1972 Taurus Brad Hutchinson Tue April 28 1964 What sign? Geoff Parks Sun April 30 1961 Taurus Barney Parker Fri May 02 1986 happy cat Gray Abbott Tue May 03 1955 Suprised Tamar Boursalian May 03 Taurus - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ------------------------------ End of ecto-digest V2 #73 ************************* ======================================================================== Please send any questions or comments about the list to ecto-owner@nsmx.rutgers.edu