From: owner-ecto-digest To: ecto-digest@ns2.rutgers.edu Subject: ecto-digest V2 #68 Reply-To: ecto@nsmx.rutgers.edu Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Friday, 31 March 1995 Volume 02 : Number 068 The Ecto digest is now being generated automatically. Please send problems and questions to: ecto-owner@nsmx.rutgers.edu. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GTP10@phx.cam.ac.uk Date: Thu, 30 Mar 95 10:06:09 BST Subject: Forthcoming Visit To Seattle WA & Portland OR Hi, all! I'm going to be visiting Seattle WA and Portland OR at the end of next month. If any Ectophiles in either city would like to meet up at some point during my visit, I'd be delighted to make your acquaintance. My precise travel plans are: 28th April Fly into Seattle 30th April Travel to Portland (by train) 1st-4th May Conference in Portland 5th May Travel to Seattle (by train) 6th May Fly back to the UK I'll be staying chez Neile in Seattle, at the conference hotel in Portland. Geoff Parks ------------------------------ From: elionwyr@onix.com (Lewars Dusti L.) Date: Wed, 29 Mar 95 23:25:50 EST Subject: authors Re: "Tam Lin" I would agree that the fey aspect of the book sometimes seemed to not fit entirely well into the weaving of the storyline - but altogether, I found the book completely enchanting. I read it, then "Fire and Hemlock", just to compare the two because I had previously been so fond of "F&H"; if you can find a copy of this book, I recommend it as well. (It's by Diane Wynne Jones.) Re: The Faerie Tale Series Does anyone have a complete list of the books in the series? I *think* I have them all, but have never been able to obtain a complete listing, and would be heartbroken to think I had missed a title - they're all so darn good. --<--<--@ Elionwyr @-->-->-- "I have spread my dreams under your feet; tread softly, for you tread upon my dreams..." ------------------------------ From: Neal Copperman Date: Thu, 30 Mar 1995 12:01:13 -0500 Subject: New DC Sarah Show!! I just noticed in last weekends paper that the new schedule for Wolftrap has a Sarah show on it. The show is on July 5, and no opening act is listed. The good news is that pavilion tickets are only $22. Hmmmm, it still seems a bit odd to be praising a mere $22 ticket. The bad news is that they are mail order only, so you can't dicker for the seats you really want, and the service charge is still $4.50. There are also lawn tix, which I think were $19 (or maybe $17). I'm going to send off an order, hopefully by Saturday, but if there is anyone else out there that wants to go, I'd be happy to order and ecto-block. Let me know as soon as possible. (John&Jennifer, Jeffy, anyone??) Last weekend I got to see the Kate kite in action too. It was the 29th Annual Smithsonian Kite Festival on the Mall, and I figured Jeffy would be there. I'd been keeping my eyes open, but was still surprised when across the field I saw the black and red Kate kite take to the air. It was too windy to provide full control (though it certainly provided some excitement, like when a 30 long kite crashed into the audience), but it was still a lot of fun to see Jeffy in action. He plays to the little kids in the audience a lot, having his kite hover in front of them, practically motionless, and allowing them to touch it. Sorry I missed you after you were done. Got distracted by those guys on the 3-wheelers flying the big parasail type things (they moved up to 35 miles per hour! [the people flying the kites]) and then couldn't find you anywhere. Then I had to leave early. Neal ------------------------------ From: RedGtrGirl@aol.com Date: Thu, 30 Mar 1995 17:40:06 -0500 Subject: random random "I repeat myself when under stress I repeat myself when under stress....." Adrian Belew Forgive me if I'm several days late on the current topic.... Didga all watch the big furry parade Monday night/day in the form of the Academy Awards. Anybody else think that the best parts of the awards ceremony was when David Letterman played his video bits - especially Barry White saying "buy my monkey?" or David getting all worked up over the chance to say "Bite Me" on world wide television. I fell asleep on the couch with the tabbies before Forrest Gump walked away with everything. Personally I was hoping for Pulp Fiction. I guess I missed Quentin Tarrentino (or was it his script collaborator) dissing the academy. Oh well....(and Jodie Foster didn't win either... another letdown) Speaking about movies.... Roger Manning and Eric Dover from Jellyfish (this cool California ex-band) make a cameo appearance in the Brady Bunch Movie (I admit it okay.. I saw it) They are in the big prom scene - in the band. There was this nifty documentary about Ed Wood (the cheezy director from the 50's - not to be confused with the recent Tim Burton directed film about the same guy) on cable last night called "Look Back in Angora". I guess it is available for purchase through Rhino Records. I guess that's enuf for now. I'm going to go away and read the last few day's postings and then I'll be back this weekend. My dad is getting married (it's okay, I dig my stepmom-to-be) Friday night - and I have to sing this Celine Dion song (called "The Colour of My Love") in front of 100 or so relatives/family friends..... and I'm getting over an other evil cold....shoul d be fun... Oh yeah, and I turned 29 yesterday..(the 29th) Pleace, love, and tabbies A ------------------------------ From: RedGtrGirl@aol.com Date: Thu, 30 Mar 1995 17:39:45 -0500 Subject: A nice fuzzy warm story And now... a funny story about a girl, a bass player, and a set of personalized license plates. Once upon a time (about 6 years ago), this girl named Amy used to race around the Chicago suburbs in a rust-colored hatchback with the license plates "YES FAN 1". Blasting ABWH on her stereo, she would reek havoc on poor unsuspecting drivers who had the misfortune of pulling next to her in traffic - singing at the top of her lungs with the last chorus of "Fist of Fire" (as a sidebar, I do prefer the older music of the band, but I do love ABWH as an alb um). Then, one day, Amy became tired of her personalized plates, and decided to change them. By this time, she had also purchased a newer car. So... she receives her new plates "SQUONK 7" and must send the old plates back to the state bureau of bureaucracy - oops I mean license plates - to be all legal and stuff. Well.... one night she was with her boyfriend (Rob) on a band job, helping him haul gear around in her NEW car (with a hatchback) - actually I think it was because his car wouldn't start - anyway... and she meets this bass player - who was subbing for Rob's regular bass player. Mr. Bass Player's name is Dave. Amy sees Dave is playing a Rickenbacker bass - just like Chris Squire, and practicing "The Fish". She says "Hey are you a Yes fan?" "Yes I am!" he replies. They discuss the finer points of the band's career and he introduces her to his wife Connie, who is also a Yes fan. Rob's band plays a good set. They break down the gear and start loading up to go home. The band is all standing around chatting by their cars when Amy thinks back to the license plates in the trunk (or "boot" for those of you in the UK) of her car. She says to Dave "Hey.... wait a minute" and she goes to her trunk, retrieves one of the plates, and presents one to Dave. "Here, you can have this.... I have to send one of them back to the state, and I figured, well, you have a garage, you can hang this up in your garage. Besides, you are such a big fan, you deserve this" He is flattered, and thanks her repeatedly. They all shake hands and say goodnight. Dave and Amy encounter each other rarely over the following years, because Dave is busy with career and family (Dave & Connie have 2 really great kids - and he is now a captain for a major airline) and Rob never returns Dave's calls. The two couples fall out of touch. Rob and Amy break up - but remain close friends. Years go by...Amy hears about Patrick Moraz's upcoming tour and plans to travel to St. Louis to see him perform when out of the blue... PHONE CALL! Rob calls Amy to say "You have to call Dave the Pilot right away... he has an incredible story to tell about the license plate you gave him!" So I did. Turns out that Dave & Connie were in the front row for the Union tour, flashing the license plate in front of the band. During the intermission, a roadie approached them and offered to take the plate backstage to have it autographed. It was returned with all the signatures except Squire and Bruford. He eventually obtained Squire's autograph at YesFest this past year, in addition to an autograph on the pick guard of his Rick bass. After relaying the story, he invited Amy to attend the private concert he was hosting with Patrick Moraz. She would be admitted free of charge because in his words, he will be "forever grateful" for the generosity of a virtual stranger (I guess I am pretty strange). A story about reciprocity, the law of karma, however you want to see it - kindness begets kindness - it really does happen!. Okay... now in the first person.... A few weeks before the show, Dave hosted a party to introduce all the attendees to each other. I got to see the license plate with the signatures - it was quite a heartwarming experience. The party was wonderful - a bunch of us were up until 5:30 in the morning singing along with our favorite tunes (I got to sing Jon's parts) and the guys who are musicians played along. This set the stage for the Moraz show which followed several weeks later. The show was one of the most incredible things I've ever experienced, a truly brilliant musician playing a Steinway in Dave's living room (the piano was a rental). But that's another story. Sorry if I bored y'all silly. I just thought some of you might find it amusing - I should probably send it to Suzanne Cerquone or NFTE. I'm not on Notes from the Edge right now, so if one of you Ectophiles wants to copy this over there, go right ahead. "...the truth of sport plays rings around you.." Amy ------------------------------ From: "Mitchell A. Pravatiner" Date: Thu, 30 Mar 95 17:47:12 EST Subject: Connection to my peers reset--day 3 Yesterday, the bulk of my mail reading having been happily taken care of, the screen froze and the message "connection reset by peer" appeared (though the connection seemed eminently dead following the alleged resetting), whereupon I decided to make an early night of it. This afternoon, I was similarly trumped in the middle of a mail read, but happily I was able to reconnect without too much grief. Let us hope the title of the book I'm now reading, Molly Ivins' _Nothin' but Good Times Ahead_, can be applied to internet connectivity as much as to other things :-). It occurred to me while reading Vickie's precis of Jewel's Guyville gig, but slipped my mind to mention at the time, that Urbis Orbis sounds like a good venue for Happy to consider when planning to do Chicago. The same goes for the Double Door a couple of blocks away, and the Wild Cherry next door to the latter. I don't know whether the Hot House across the street from them ever deals in Happy's musical genre, but that too is worth checking out. WRT our nascent cat-toy thread: Casper and Harold (especially the former) seem to respond especially well to something called Da Bird, which is basically a bunch of feathers on the end of a cord on the end of a stick. In the past, Casper has managed to get the feathers off of the assembly, and become extremely possessive of them. He also seems heavily into my shoelaces, though happily he has yet to totally destroy any of them. Wish I could say as much for the cord on my good headphones :-). WRT WW browsers: whatever real or imagined bugs there are in Netscape, it does reportedly have the advantage over Mosaic that you don't have to wait until the entire page is read in to look at the parts that already have been. Mitch ------------------------------ From: Robert Lovejoy Date: Thu, 30 Mar 1995 20:21:19 -0500 Subject: Happy to be on Echoes again Life will not be put down. In spite of my being in less contact with AG's management, something there is that keeps me on top of things. It appears that one of my clients is a personal friend of John D., the host of Echoes, and when I saw him at work this morning he informed me that Happy and Kevin were coming to town tomorrow to tape a segment for the show. Apparently they will perform a "living room concert" right in John's living room! He records and produces Echoes right in his house! My friend says there are always top caliber musicians dropping in on John to play. He will be there when Happy and Kevin perform tomorrow - lucky stiff!. I'll get back to everyone with an air date as soon as I can. One thing that shocked me was the discovery that Echoes is on about six days a week! Here in Philly, it's only on once a week. Ironic. I should be able to get a copy of their segment direct from my friend direct from John. It will be posted to DBX asap. As for the other materials I have, I hope to be able to pull myself together and get back to working on it this weekend, Grid Willing. We have had such a month! Right after losing one of our dogs, I have found that a large insurance company is buying Modern Video. I'm not sure I like this, but hey, it's a Republican World, and the Big Fish eat the smaller ones. Hope they don't spit me out! Later! Robert the Politically Challenged ------------------------------ From: Neal Copperman Date: Thu, 30 Mar 1995 20:40:51 -0500 Subject: Summer shows in DC Since I was asked, and in case anyone cares, here are my personalized highlights from the Wolftrap schedule for the summer. The only one that is prompting me to action is Sarah, but there are a number of good shows. Sunday, June 11: "Louisiana Swamp Rock" Beausoleil avec Michael Doucet, the subdudes, Nathan & the Zydeco Cha Chas, The Hackberry Ramblers 2 pm, General Admission, $14 advance, $18 same day June 23-25 Wolf Trap's 1995 Jazz and Blues Festival Sunday, June 25: Joshua Redman, Richard Thompson and David Lindley, Poncho Sanchez, Otis Clay, Ron Holloway, Lisa Henry, Marisa Monte, Keb' Mo, Little Milton, and Cathy Ponton King. 1 pm, GenAdm, $14 adv. $18 same day Sunday and Monday, July 2 & 3, Mary Chapin Carpenter with the Nashville Bluegrass Band. ($16 lawn only) Wed July 5 Sarah McLachlan!!!! That's about it, unless anyone wanted to run out and see the John Denver National Symphony Orchestra show on June 15. Neal ------------------------------ From: veronica sawyer Date: Thu, 30 Mar 1995 17:50:35 -0800 (PST) Subject: Essensual translunareversalliteration (read: silly) hi and welcome to *my* weekly catch-up. if it's good enough for Meredith... :) and luna *is* just past her new, but i'm surprisingly co-sticky-herent this time. odd, but good odd. so on to the show. does anyone know what Happy thinks about people sampling her work? is there an "official" policy on this, or...? the question comes up because a friend of mine used a Sarah sample in one of her songs, and it got me to wondering. it's not immediately relevant though, as far as i know my friend hasn't even heard any Happy yet. my (as yet) gentle efforts notwithstanding. :) i told my friend Steve (doubly cat-owned) about the laser pointer trick and he said that a flash-paper launcher is another good cat toy. they have some use in stage magic i gather, not entirely sure what though. anyway the flash paper burns up quickly (and brightly) then disappears, but it leaves a smell behind. so the cat *knows* something was there, by sight and smell, but can't *find* it. yes Steve is cruel, it's his revenge for being enslaved by cats. ;) and i've already flogged him for possible cat imperilment, but he assures me it's harmless. it's not like he launches the paper *at* the cat, after all. winding weird-ward: how often do we see > "...and after listening to her album I fell in love with her voice." drift down these fuzzy blue waters? which is fine, but it makes me wonder if maybe there's not some more literal truth in those words than is usually assumed. what i'm thinking goes like this: anyone who's heard me sing *knows* i can't sing to save my soul, not really, not that this stops me from singing anyway. but a long-ago girlfriend always said how much she loved my singing, and that she wished i'd sing more. now her musical tastes were otherwise just fine, :), and over time i've come to belive that she only loved my singing because she loved me. and more lately i've come to think that maybe it works the other way, that there's some part of me that tries to or would like to fall in love with the rare person whose music gets inside of me and really moves me. and it's silly, perhaps, and it can't go anywhere, but that doesn't mean it doesn't start, or try to. and i kinda wonder what people think about this, and if anyone feels like this sometimes. maybe you just need a good imagination, to fill in all the parts of the person that you really don't know about. as it happens i'm pretty good at that. *sigh*. :( but i'm not sure you can ever know more of a person than your dream of them anyway... and for the record i'm not a lunacrazed stalker, i keep my delirium to myself, ecto, and other consenting people. i did send a note along with one of the rdt birthday cards, but that's about it. :) and finally i was listening to "willie biddle in his watery grave" (Miranda Sex Garden, on the sunshine single) and i finally started to "get it", to get into the song and understand it, which is great. before i'd always kinda skipped over it, and it was nice to really feel the song, and it's flow. but why why WHY why WHY does this only happen on a tape that you *know* runs out two thirds of the way through the song?! :( your ephemmethereal host(age)ess, veronica - --- "ephemmethereal" - words like this are one reason i did so poorly in English classes. words tease tickle and delight me, invite me out to play, and ever i accept. rambunctious and indecorous perhaps, but words are my friends and my playground, not my drear workplace. :) ------------------------------ From: nkg@helix.net (Neil K.) Date: Fri, 31 Mar 1995 01:04:30 -0800 Subject: Re: ecto-digest V2 #65 At around 11:58 PM on 3/28/95, Steve VanDevender wrote: >I have a very rudimentary home page, to which I recently added a >digital photograph of myself: > >http://jcomm.uoregon.edu/~stevev/ And at around 3:51 PM on 3/29/95, Greg Bossert wrote: >Note that Neil's Ecto Homepage includes a list of Ectophile homepages: > > > >Neil, if you're adding Steve's, add mine too! (it's in my sig) Both added! Though, as my page says, why are there no women ectophiles with these pages? Do women not want strangers staring at their pictures? Are women insufficiently nerdy to have home pages? I don't know! :) Actually, this reminds me of something I've been thinking about for a while. What do people think of the idea of an Ecto family album on the Ecto home page? (the Indigo Girls list has one, actually) I have a collection of about half a dozen ectophile photos that have been emailed to me, plus a bunch of snaps taken at last year's Ecto gathering here in Vancouver. Is there enough interest to warrant a little ecto page of pics? I'm horrendously busy right now but could probably find the time over the next few months to slap a few GIFs onto a home page if people like the idea. Putting faces to names and all that! :) - Neil K. - -- Neil K. Guy * neilg@sfu.ca * nkg@helix.net 49N 16' 123W 7' * Vancouver, BC, Canada ------------------------------ From: "steve (s.l.) fagg" Date: Fri, 31 Mar 1995 10:18:00 +0100 Subject: Re: ecto-digest V2 #65 In message "Re: ecto-digest V2 #65", 'nkg@helix.net' writes: >What do people think of the idea of an Ecto family album on the Ecto >home page? (the Indigo Girls list has one, actually) I have a collection of >about half a dozen ectophile photos that have been emailed to me, plus a >bunch of snaps taken at last year's Ecto gathering here in Vancouver. Is >there enough interest to warrant a little ecto page of pics? Great idea, Neil. The IG family album is great fun, and I'm sure an Ecto one would be even better. I don't have the wherewithal to make a GIF or JPEG of myself but I could send you a photo if you would be wiling to do the honours on my behalf. Hope the idea flies! TTFN Steve. P.S. I thought there was a link to Sue Trowbridge's home page from the Ecto one, and isn't Sue female? P.P.S. Just what does one need to have in the way of software to be able to have a home page? - -- Steve Fagg a.k.a. Nightwol ( 'phone: +44-1279-402437 ) ( s.l.fagg@bnr.co.uk (work) nightwol@dircon.co.uk (home) ) *** We tried to add it all up and got merely sunrise. *** *** Try putting that in a letter to someone in exile. *** ------------------------------ From: neilg@sfu.ca (Neil K.) Date: Fri, 31 Mar 1995 02:56:06 -0800 Subject: Re: ecto-digest V2 #65 At around 10:18 AM on 3/31/95, steve (s.l.) fagg wrote: >Great idea, Neil. The IG family album is great fun, and I'm sure an >Ecto one would be even better. I don't have the wherewithal to make a >GIF or JPEG of myself but I could send you a photo if you would be >wiling to do the honours on my behalf. I can scan a few pictures in sometime, I'm sure. The idea of a family album, were it to go ahead, may have to wait a little bit. I'm currently getting my own domain name set up (tela.bc.ca) and will be moving the Ecto page there. Heck, I could register ecto.org as a domain - I don't think it's taken! :) What do people think of that idea? I wouldn't want to control the domain name, just use it for the Ecto page and make sure nobody else takes it for non-ectophilic purposes. Somehow it doesn't seem right, though... registering a name that's sort of community property... I wouldn't do it unless there was unanimous consent that doing so would be a good idea. Maybe Greg should do it for the mailing list? >P.S. I thought there was a link to Sue Trowbridge's home page from the >Ecto one, and isn't Sue female? Well Holly and I had the pleasure of meeting Sue during my Baltimore visit last year, (she played us tapes of the then-new Tori album) and I'd say Sue certainly appears to be female. Either that or he's a jolly good impersonator! :) I don't have a link to a Sue Trowbridge page, though. Do you have one, Sue? >P.P.S. Just what does one need to have in the way of software to be >able to have a home page? Depends what machine you have. Any UNIX box, Macintosh or Windows machine that's got a permanent connection to the Internet can serve out Web pages with the right free software. UNIX users need root unless the machine already has an http daemon running on it. Macintosh users can double-click MacHTTP and they're off! Windows machines also have server programs around. - Neil K. - -- Neil K. Guy * neilg@sfu.ca * nkg@helix.net 49N 16' 123W 7' * Vancouver, BC, Canada ------------------------------ From: Doug Burks Date: Fri, 31 Mar 1995 06:51:51 -0800 (PST) Subject: The Nazca Lines Greetings, Amidst a much longer review, Philip Sainty asked: "Nasquerline" (*) * I couldn't hear properly what she called this, and I don't know how to spell it. I don't think it's on any of her albums. Can anyone enlighten me? This is "The Nazca Lines", a lively composition written by her guitarist Brian Hughes. Her band has played it all three times I've seen her in concert, a nice counterpoint to Loreena's generally more stately music. By the way, it's on the Loreena tape available through the tape dubbing project! Hoping I survive the Final Four's invasion of Seattle, I remain ... Doug Burks _O_ @>->--- dbx@netcom.com |< She really is!! ------------------------------ From: Mike Mendelson Date: 31 Mar 95 10:03:41 EST Subject: news and viewers Wow, what a week for concerts in Chicago. In brief, the 3 I attended were the Anonymous Four on Sunday at St. Wenseslaus Church (talk about amazing acoustics friends -- thanks for the recommendation who ever wrote about seeing them in (?) Seattle); Sarah and Paula Wed.; Vic and Vic last night. Victoria was her old zany self -- even zanier than usual, I'd say. She played a bizarre cross-section of songs, ranging from Neil Young to Jane Seeeberry (Love is Everything, for which she summonsed Syd Straw who tried to keep up but wasn't anywhere near a mic -- I met Syd before the show in the hall -- she is a huge chestnut fan -- and when I said we hoped to see her on stage, she said I was a sweetie -- We love you, Syd!) [I requested Waitress and Extra Executive, but no dice] to some other covers and originals I hadn't heard before. I'm sure I've seen Vic Chestnut before but I don't know where. Paula Cole did not quite translate to the Chicago Theatre imo; the first I saw her was at Schubas and she was awesome. I also thought she sounded hoarse, maybe even sick, and she had trouble hitting some notes -- it sounded quite pained to me. Still, the crowd -- *very* conservative, very young -- collegey -- virtually no-one wearing black -- seemed to dig it. Sarah filled the stage very well, and was extremely playful. Every time I see her it seems the songs get SLLLLOOOOWWWEEER AAANNDD sllllllllloooooooowwwwwwwweeeeerrrrrr - -- if you have ever played live, you know how *hard* it is to p l a y r e a l l y s l o w, but sarah is *great* at it. The sound was phenomenal and we truly enjoyed it. She played a new song too. |From: RedGtrGirl@aol.com |And now... a funny story about a girl, a bass player, and a set of |personalized license plates. I *love* stories like this. So is this red guitar girl still living in chicago? I don't know when another week of concerts like this will come by Chicago, but it was awesome. The only regret was missing Kirsty, but hey, 3 out of 4 ain't bad. - -mjm ------------------------------ From: kosky@saul.cis.upenn.edu (Anthony Kosky) Date: Fri, 31 Mar 1995 11:20:08 -0500 Subject: Ashley Maher playing in London on Sunday 2nd April I just thought I'd emerge briefly to tell any London-based rdt or ecto or stormcock people that Ashley Maher is playing at the Subterania in London this Sunday 2nd April. I'm not sure where that is, so you'll need to figure it out yourself. Her music is very, very highly recommended, and I believe that her live performances are good too (though unfortunately I'm on the wrong continent to find out for myself). If anyone goes, please post a review somewhere. - -Anthony ------------------------------ From: lakrahn@iw.net (Laurel Krahn) Date: Fri, 31 Mar 1995 10:51:15 -0600 Subject: Re: authors >Re: "Tam Lin" > >I would agree that the fey aspect of the book sometimes seemed to not >fit entirely well into the weaving of the storyline - but altogether, I >found the book completely enchanting. I read it, then "Fire and >Hemlock", just to compare the two because I had previously been so fond >of "F&H"; if you can find a copy of this book, I recommend it as well. >(It's by Diane Wynne Jones.) Diana Wynne Jones is wonderful. Find her books. Often in the children's and young adult sections of the bookstore... Diana is also a tremendously fun convention guest. She was at Fourth Street Fantasy convention in Minneapolis just a couple of years ago. Great storyteller. I have a tape of the portion of the convention where Jane Yolen interviewed Diana (with a little vice versa going on)... Wonderful. >Re: The Faerie Tale Series > >Does anyone have a complete list of the books in the series? I *think* >I have them all, but have never been able to obtain a complete listing, >and would be heartbroken to think I had missed a title - they're all so >darn good. I have a feeling that this list has been posted to Ecto before (heck, I think I've posted it before), but here it is again. The Fairy Tales series was/is edited by Terri Windling. With bookjackets by Thomas Canty. Started out at Ace books, now resides at Tor. The titles/authors are as follows (all were released in hardcover, then paperback). The point of the series is to do contemporary reworkings of classic fairy tales. One might also check out the anthologies edited by Terri Windling and Ellen Datlow-- _Snow White & Blood Red_). _Jack, the Giant Killer_ by Charles de Lint (the latest paperback issue has a vastly different cover than the original novel-- so some don't think of it as one of the series, but it was/is. Also, de Lint did a sequel-- not a Fairy Tale book, but relevant nonetheless-- called _Drink Down the Moon_). _The Sun, The Moon, and The Stars_ by Steven Brust (a story of artists and the work of creation, mingled with a Hungarian folk tale. A fine fine work, IMHO). _Snow White & Rose Red_ by Patricia C. Wrede (I don't have the book in front of me, I fear I'm mixing words in the title. It's set in Elizabethan times, if memory serves. It may have been reprinted recently, as I'm seeing copies of it all over the place...) _The Nightingale_ by Kara Dalkey (The classic tale, set in Japan-- again, it's been awhile since I read it. ) _Tam Lin_ by Pamela Dean (We've talked about this one a lot lately. The ballad, set at a fictitious midwestern liberal arts college-- closely resembling Carleton College, actually. :) Blackstock, Carleton, whatever...) _Briar Rose_ by Jane Yolen (The most recent Fairy Tale novel. Jane takes the story of Sleeping Beauty (aka Briar Rose) and tells a moving tale of the Holocaust. Only Jane could pull this one off. A beautiful novel. Garnered a number of awards and countless nominations.) I think that's it for the series as it stands now-- tho many people think that one or both of Ellen Kushner's novels... _Swordspoint_ and _Thomas the Rhymer_ are in the series-- they are not. Tho they are highly recommended. I think people mistake them for part of the series because of the Tom Canty covers that closely resemble his style on the series. As well as the subject matter, style, and such. I *think* the next Fairy Tales novel will be by Emma Bull (possibly _Katie Crackernuts_), but I'm not certain. (Other contemporary fantasies worth noting & of interest: The Xanadu series of anthologies edited by Jane Yolen. The Borderlands novels and anthologies... _Life on the Border_ edited by Terri Windling, _Elsewhere_ by Will Shetterly, _Finder_ by Emma Bull, and _Nevernever_ by Will Shetterly-- also _Borderland_ and _Bordertown_ edited by Terri Windling and Mark Alan Arnold. The Liavek anthologies edited by Emma Bull & Will Shetterly are a nifty series set in a shared universe, with stories by the above mentioned authors, plus Gene Wolfe, John M. Ford, and other greats. As always, a good place to start.. . _The Years Best Fantasy & Horror_ anthologies, edited by Terri Windling and Ellen Datlow. They'll cover the rest of the stuff that I'm leaving out (and I know I'm leaving a lot out. And I have a Minneapolis bias. ). 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