From: owner-ecto-digest To: ecto-digest@ns2.rutgers.edu Subject: ecto-digest V2 #65 Reply-To: ecto@nsmx.rutgers.edu Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Tuesday, 28 March 1995 Volume 02 : Number 065 The Ecto digest is now being generated automatically. Please send problems and questions to: ecto-owner@nsmx.rutgers.edu. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Greg Bossert Date: Mon, 27 Mar 95 0:12:37 EST Subject: Mouth Music Chip chips in: > Mouth Music's third outing for Rykodisk melds high tech and high touch in > delightfully impure fashion. Visonary Martin Swan and vocalist Jackie > Joyce create a captivating atmosphere that "Musicisian" magazine called > "a rare blend of the ethereal and the funky, the ancient and the > orbital." foo-TAH! been waiting for this one :) i'm so happy, i'll probably have to buy lots of other CDs too ;) Ray ponders: > I know I've asked this before, but remind me--who was the original > lead singer for Mouth Music, back in the days of their eponymous > debut? Talitha MacKenzie. She has a solo album on Shanachie (now *that's* a great record label) called "Solas", which reworks a number of tracks from the first MM album and adds a few new ones: the repeats are fresh enough that the album doesn't feel at all redundant, and all in all it is definitely recommended :) i saw Mouth Music twice in two days on the tour following that first album. the second show was at the unexpectantly lamented Iron Horse (ack, Meth, say it isn't true!!), with Mairi MacInnes providing lead vox. i've got a solo album of hers, "Causeway", on Lismor. (that would be a scottish label, now, and one with which i am otherwise unfamiliar.) a bit more traditionally traditional, with trad mainstay Phil Cunningham playing and producing, and a number of waulking songs and "Puirt-a-Beul" (mouth music)... Martin and Mairi and soundman Chic Medley were all delightful after the show. a perfect evening was completed by my first face-to-face meeting with Happy and Kevin. it seems a long time ago, sitting here... hmm, speaking of trad, i'm hoping woj returns from halifax with some Figgy Duff in hand. my copy of the solo album from FD's lead singer, Pamela Morgan, has been sitting in Montreal for months now. which shows, i imagine, that it has better taste in habitate than i. ;) now that i am all folked up, as it were, and given that i've been reading Mr. de Lint and Brian Froud's "The Wild Wood" by breeze and candlelight, perhaps i'll go poke at my harp and see how it sounds. i suspect that it's out of tune and out of practice. maybe i can stumble through the blessed O'Carolan's "Plaxnty Footah"... - --+ greg bossert rutgers university network services +-- - --+ bossert@noc.rutgers.edu +-- - --+ http://www-ns.rutgers.edu/~bossert +-- - --+ i have never been afraid to change -- Happy +-- - --+ the circumstances of the world -- Rhodes +-- ------------------------------ From: elionwyr@onix.com (Lewars Dusti L.) Date: Sun, 26 Mar 95 23:17:36 EST Subject: schtuff To add to the discussion of October Project: They're coming out with a new album this spring - at least, that was what their little "update" postcard said from a few months ago. YAHOO! If it's possible to fall in love with a voice, seeing this group at Penn's Landing in Phillie this past summer got me hook, line, and sinker. (happy sigh!) Vicky - thank you for posting the interview stuff about Happy! (hug) Is there a place on the 'net where this kind o' thing is readily available? And as for YOU, Jon...you glorious bit of electronic giggles, you...HI!! I shoulda known you'd be on this list! (wave wave wave!) I miss ya - you going to the April show? Well? Hmmm? (hug!) --<--<--@ Elionwyr @-->-->-- "I have spread my dreams under your feet; tread softly, for you tread upon my dreams..." ------------------------------ From: RedGtrGirl@aol.com Date: Mon, 27 Mar 1995 07:57:42 -0500 Subject: Too much!.... Okay... so I've been lurking. Truth is I log in from my office computer and sometimes I can't sneak it because it's my personal account, not the company's... Anyway... a quick reply to a few of you who asked questions - and forgive me for not using the capture mode type thinggie.... Michael... I think you asked about Moraz.... I was not too familiar with his solo material until a wonderful thing happened.... it is a very long story... but I got a chance to see him play at one of his "personal concert" tours on March 15th in the home of an old dear friend of mine. He turned me onto "Windows of Time" and "Story of I" which is also on disc. To make it brief - WOT is somewhat of a variation on theme thing - he covers his own "Best Years of Our Lives" and Duke Ellington's "Caravan" to name a few - all done on acoustic piano. It is a brilliant album, I recommend it highly. You can probably find in the "New Age" or "Jazz" section of your local record store, or through Spirit records. I will get the catalog number for you if you have trouble finding it. I may post a bit more on the Moraz show/ a really funny story - but later. chip - you live in Chicago... I live in near Portage Park - 4000 North and 6000 West. I work downtown - I haven't been able to afford much concert going due to extreme poverty : ) but am working on correcting this problem. Would very much like to meet you and Vicki at some point. Fog.... Dude!!! Hammill IS God!!! I became indoctrinated into the angst-ridden world of Mr. Hammill and VDG thanks to my Hammillhead significant other. He started me off with "Godbluff" and "Still Life" and moved me on to "Silent Corner....", "Over" and his other wonderful collection of solo material.. He recently played "Roaring Forties" for me - but didn't leave me the disc (he lives in Ohio, I live in Illinois) so I'm waiting for a tape. I guess I don't have a FAVOURITE Hammill tune perse, but tunes like "Undercover Man" and "Flight" hold a special place in my cold wittle heart. btw... I am also a Marillion fan, but have been a bit down on Derek Dick because he can be such an arrogant SOB..(but I digress..) ANYWAY... Sorry for lurking.... but like I said, time is something I haven't had a lot of lately. R.Lovejoy is right..... savour every minute of every day... send love to all around you both human and fuzzy (and fuzzy human) because you never know when that person or critter has to move on to their next incarnation. One more thing... someone please briefly explain WWW and FAQ to me - I'm a little new at this Internet thang..... love & fuzzy tabbies, Amy ------------------------------ From: Paula Shanks Date: 27 Mar 1995 08:51:10 -0500 Subject: Dusty Thanks to Chris Beckwith for the effusive praise of Dusty Springfield here. I am so excited that there's a new release coming soon. One of the first LPs I ever bought, back in 1964, was by Dusty (yea verily am I aged), and I've been collecting since. Left most of my LPs behind when I went off to college in '69, and thereby got my little brother hooked on her, too. One of his greatest used-finds was a copy of "Dusty in Memphis" circa 1980. She is a fabulous singer. Ignore her at your peril. Is it clear from Dario's posting that the 18th April date is US, or UK? I seem to have trashed the mail it was in. ____ Re Mouth Music's "Shorelife": So far this isn't nearly as interesting as the previous two, to my ears. Doesn't seem nearly as percussion-driven. Lyrics are silly-new agey stuff. Biggest disappointment of the year to date. Re the Thistle and Shamrock interview: Isn't it the case that Talitha Mackenzie left after the first record? I think that must have been a rerun. Re "Medusa": I go hot and cold on Annie Lennox, but on this one I'm pretty hot. Most of these songs are already heavy favorites of mine. I keep fighting the impression that I sent her a playlist in my dreams or something. A Blue Nile cover, for cryin out loud. I love it. She oddly deflated "Thin line between love and hate" but the rest of the covers are inspired. - --Paula, whose antique heart goes thumpa-thumpa at the mere mention of Dusty Springfield. pas@math.ams.org; PAShanks@aol.com ------------------------------ From: "steve (s.l.) fagg" Date: Mon, 27 Mar 1995 15:06:00 +0100 Subject: re:Good news! Hi there Valerie! *HUGS* :-) In message "Good news!", you write: >Yup, I'm returning to Chicago! This time hopefully for good (or at least 2 >years). Tribune Company was nice enough to offer me a job, and I was happy >enough to take it. So starting next month, I'll be living in Chicago >(address still unknown) and working for Tribune Media Services. Great news! Congratulations on getting a job, and I hope to meet up with you again the next time I'm in the Windy City. TTFN Steve. - -- Steve Fagg a.k.a. Nightwol ( 'phone: +44-1279-402437 ) ( s.l.fagg@bnr.co.uk (work) nightwol@dircon.co.uk (home) ) *** We tried to add it all up and got merely sunrise. *** *** Try putting that in a letter to someone in exile. *** ------------------------------ From: "steve (s.l.) fagg" Date: Mon, 27 Mar 1995 14:17:56 +0000 Subject: re:Review: Sarah McLachlan --- The Freedom Sessions In message "Review: Sarah McLachlan --- The Freedom Sessions", 'dalton@geop.ubc.ca' writes: >The _Freedom Sessions_ (FS) is a mini-CD with or without a >multi-media (MM) portion; I recommend getting the CD+MM one. This should not be taken to imply that the Freedom Sessions is an 8cm (3") CD. It is a regular size 12cm (5") disc. I think Dave is referring to the fact that the total music time is less than some might expect from a full album. But then the MM track takes up the equivalent of 20 minutes of audio capacity. I for one did not feel short-changed by the playing time of this release - it is a treasured part of my Sarah collection. When playing the audio+MM version of the CD (I have both - thanks Neile! ;-)) on my audio CD player I cannot get it to auto-repeat reliably, the extra track seems to confuse the player (even when the CD is programmed to only repeat the audio tracks). The result is that the disc stops playing at (apparently) random points. Has anybody else suffered this problem. The audio-only version is just fine in this regard. - -- Steve Fagg a.k.a. Nightwol ( 'phone: +44-1279-402437 ) ( s.l.fagg@bnr.co.uk (work) nightwol@dircon.co.uk (home) ) *** We tried to add it all up and got merely sunrise. *** *** Try putting that in a letter to someone in exile. *** ------------------------------ From: "steve (s.l.) fagg" Date: Mon, 27 Mar 1995 14:55:49 +0000 Subject: re:Victoria Live et al. In message "Victoria Live et al.", 'METH@delphi.com' writes: >Saw Victoria Williams at Town Hall in NYC last night. It was a lot of fun. ... stuff deleted ... >The definite highlight of the show was when Lou Reed walked out on stage, >grabbed a guitar, taught Vic a few chord progressions, and led the band in >a great rendition of "Sweet Jane". It looked like Victoria had no idea he >was coming, he just showed up and asked if he could play. The crowd went >nuts. :) Afterwards we had to take a few minutes to explain who he was to >Anja, and she still wasn't too clear on it. Oh dear! This evoked the classic "Laughs out loud at work and gets strange looks from co-workers" response. Sorry Anja, no offence meant, but... Lou Reed????? Wow! I guess that's New York City for ya! Mike Curry, Jeff Wasilko, Anja >and I headed back toward the subway laughing loudly about the fact that Anja >had no clue who Lou Reed was, and I told them what Tamar had said to me when >he came onstage, that her roommate, a big Lou Reed fan was just going to die >when she heard about this. At that point Jeff nudged me and said in a low >voice, "Lou Reed is walking right in front of us," and sure enough, that was >him, not 3 feet in front of us on the sidewalk. I almost popped something, >I was laughing so hard -- Anja's first words upon discovering the situation >were "so what -- he has no clue who the hell I am, either" Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear!!! That just about cracked me up!! If this goes on I shall have to stop reading Ecto at work! Loved the story of the brush with fame, loved the review of the Victoria gig too - especially the comments about Molly. Any other attendees want to contribute their insights? - -- Steve Fagg a.k.a. Nightwol ( 'phone: +44-1279-402437 ) ( s.l.fagg@bnr.co.uk (work) nightwol@dircon.co.uk (home) ) *** We tried to add it all up and got merely sunrise. *** *** Try putting that in a letter to someone in exile. *** ------------------------------ From: torok@nynexst.com (Dave Torok) Date: Mon, 27 Mar 1995 10:53:25 -0500 Subject: Anyone have the new Mouth Music? Hi all, Has anyone got the new Mouth Music disc yet? I'm tempted to run out and buy it "sight unheard" but I'd prefer a mini-review from someone first. "Mo-Di" is still one of my favorite discs over all my collection, so I'm sure I won't be disappointed in any case. Any news of a Mouth Music tour? I haven't yet had the fortune of seeing them live -- I seem to always be out of town when they happen to be around. Happy Spring! - -=$>Dave<$=- ------------------------------ From: "Wolfgang T. Ullwer" Date: Mon, 27 Mar 95 19:31:20 +0200 Subject: Heather Nova in Duesseldorf Hi there, there are only some minutes left till I'll have to go home, that's why just a few comments from this side: Klaus&Claudia and me went to Duesseldorf after some rainy hours in Juelich, during which I had the opportunity to put faces to names by means of interesting fotos. Thank you, Klaus! The past Ectogatherings must have been really funny parties, I guess... Greetings to all those who made the group to what it is - a wonderful community of nice people! I was provided with Ecto and BtC, thank you again, Klaus. Didn't listen to it, because we had to leave for the concert. Heather was great, indeed. I knew three songs before, that's not much. The way she changed the styles from loud and heavy-loaded to very intimate was incredible, sometimes even within one song. I liked the cello, too. You should not miss the show, I highly recommend it. Regarding the second support act, I dunno how to answer Uli's question. We had the same problems with the weird lead singer, he must be either a very talented actor or simply queer in his attic - the latter I fear. This "black-dressed lady with necklace doing her vocal exercises" will not save the project, imho. Since two cds by our Holy Queen are waiting for me, I remain with greetings - this was Wolfgang speaking. - -- "Die Woche will und will nicht | Wolfgang T. Ullwer enden." Ux - on Monday morning at | Research Centre Juelich 7 am in a thermodynamics lesson. | isf031@zam001.zam.kfa-juelich.de ------------------------------ From: pmcohen@netaxs.com (Paul Cohen) Date: Mon, 27 Mar 1995 17:57:17 -0500 Subject: Re: the nerve bible, cd promos and Catholicism >My question on this is the promo status of these--I've begun to >feel guilty. Is it my "raised Catholic" guilt or something >more? Ah, the ethics of bargins!! Look, the bottom line is that if you didn't buy the disks, someone else would. You can more than make it up to the artist by spreading their names around and turning people on to them. And there is no other way you would have gotten "Save the Linoleum". It's a promo-only piece. Well, I understand it's distributed at her concerts, but barring that... ________Paul Cohen________________pmcohen@netaxs.com________________________ King of Prussia, PA http://www.netaxs.com/~pmcohen/ ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo talk: pmcohen@slip-91.netaxs.com ------------------------------ From: David Dixon Date: Mon, 27 Mar 1995 16:09:33 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Words were made for Ecto On Fri, 24 Mar 1995, Greg Bossert wrote: [lots of things] > * Gorecki, "Third Symphony, David Zinman, London Symphonietta, Dawn > Upshaw, soprano" - I'm told this is a yuppie trend, as far as > avant-garde neo-classical music goes; this is perhaps a result of its > prominence in the film "Fearless", in which it provides the backdrop > to the stunningly effective plan crash sequence. Beautiful, haunting > music, with lovely Polish vocals from Ms. Upshaw, and a libretto that > borrows from a monastic hymn, a Polish folk song, and a prayer found > on the wall of a Gestapo cell. I just picked this one up a while ago as well, and concur that it packs quite a wallop. Needs to be listened to in the dark. If you've got a hankering for dark modern classical music, by the way, I highly recommend the Estonian composer Arvo Part (especially "Fratres"). Another composer in the same vein is the recently-much-heralded Gavin Bryars, whose recent work "The Sinking of the Titanic" sounds really intriguing. It's on the short list of my Things To Buy. D^2 ------------------------------ From: pmcohen@netaxs.com (Paul Cohen) Date: Mon, 27 Mar 1995 20:09:26 -0500 Subject: Re: Shona Laing/Tanita >Several years ago I picked up a two song sampler by Shona >Laing with "Fear of Falling", and "Soviet Snow" on it. I >thought both those songs were excellent. I just picked up a >used CD by Shona Laing called "South". From the liner notes, >she may be from New Zealand... She is indeed from New Zealand. "South" is about two albums back and dates back to around '90 I believe. I can't check as I just moved and my CDs are still boxed. Her recent works have not impressed me the way "South" did. ________Paul Cohen________________pmcohen@netaxs.com________________________ King of Prussia, PA http://www.netaxs.com/~pmcohen/ ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo talk: pmcohen@slip-91.netaxs.com ------------------------------ From: Jeffrey Hanson Date: Mon, 27 Mar 1995 17:27:59 -0800 Subject: Re: Shona Laing I saw Shona Laing back in '89 or so--she was opening for Erasure. She put on a pretty good show. She was touring in support of South, and the song "Glad I'm Not a Kennedy" was getting a lot of airplay-- both radio and video. Jeff Hanson ------------------------------ From: THE OLIVE-LOAF VIGILANTE Date: Mon, 27 Mar 1995 22:15:19 -0500 (EST) Subject: disagreements and bad television Hi! I'm hitting bottom, folks. I just watched the rebroadcast of the very first episode of Melrose Place, and now I'm watching The Academy Awards With David Letterman. Somebody please help me! Our own footah tahed: >i saw Mouth Music twice in two days on the tour following that first >album. the second show was at the unexpectantly lamented Iron Horse >(ack, Meth, say it isn't true!!), Alas and alack, but yes, it is true. Something about they're not making any money, and have no choice but to close. I find the reason hard to believe, but hey. If I win the Lottery tomorrow, I'll be more than willing to take it off their hands! >hmm, speaking of trad, i'm hoping woj returns from halifax with some >Figgy Duff in hand. If he doesn't, then I will. :) Are there any ectophiles lurking in the Halifax area? woj is there now, and I'll be going out there to join him from April 7-11. Speak up if you're available and interested in a get-together, or have any suggestions as to cool places to visit and neat things to do in the area. > * Milla, "Divine Comedy" - Having embarrassed oneself (one hopes) >with the previous allusion, one anticipates further mortification at >the admission that I noticed the video for "The Gentleman who Fell" >first because of a shapely nude form (lit, apparently, by the same >evil genius who put shadows in all the wrong places in Sarah's "Terms >of Endearment" video), and the very next day came across a pair of >images of Ms. Jovovich clad in a see-through top and a mandolin and >nothing else. This happy coincidence, I concluded, was suitable >inspiration to finally buy "The Divine Comedy". Needless to say (one >hopes, again), the music more than stood on its own. Greg, Greg, Greg.... ... but you are absolutely right about the "shadows in all the wrong places" in the Sarah video. Last week as she hosted 120 Minutes one of the video bits they used to lead back in from commercials was the bit of the "Path of Thorns" video which shows the most for the longest period of time, and when they cut back to Sarah in the studio she had a rather bemused look on her face. All she had to say was, "Wow, that was four years ago already!" :) :) :) >note that Jewel reminded me somewhat of Tori's quirkiness, and I think >Tori's quirkiness has been wearing thin recently... Um, are you feeling okay? This is one of the first signs of true madness, you know... you should relax a bit more. :) >So, in the end, i feel that Ms. Baudino's words don't quite fit >together as well as I'd like. The characters and plot and harps and >guitars and such kept me well entertained, but I wasn't, mm, >transported quite as much as I was by Ms. Bull's book, for all that >the latter was, perhaps, more naive and less ambitious... Hmmm.. *exactly* the opposite of my perceptions of the two novels. This is starting to get frightening. >Of all that scribbly bunch, my favorite remains Pamela Dean. She's great, though I dearly wish she'd just let _Tam Lin_ be the brilliant coming-of-age novel it desperately wanted to be and left out the faerie stuff (which she almost did -- it was so much an afterthought it seemed completely out of place). Still, _Tam Lin_ remains one of the only books I simply could not put down until I had finished, which completely killed the day, but hey, I was traveling at the time anyway. :> >Having reached some closure on the Matter of the Pigtails, your humble >footah finds himself again in some small disagreement with Meth over >Sarah McLachlan. >... >One can't help but agree with the final sentence. Alas, this footah >reacted less enthusiastically to the song itself. Remember, it's a work in progress (though judging by The Freedom Sessions *every* song of hers is a work in progress ;)... she will probably rewrite it four times before she ever records it. >who were all quite tolerant of a blathering footah... One hopes y'all >are likewise ;) Blathering, you mean? I know I am... ;> Steve Fagg chortled: >Oh dear! This evoked the classic "Laughs out loud at work and gets >strange looks from co-workers" response. Sorry Anja, no offence >meant, but... Lou Reed????? Wow! I guess that's New York City for >ya! :) Yeah, it was even funnier for those of us in attendance... >Loved the story of the brush with fame, loved the review of the >Victoria gig too - especially the comments about Molly. Any other >attendees want to contribute their insights? Actually, this attendee has more insights to reveal, after listening to her tape of the show this evening. I think my favorite song from the show was her solo piano rendition of "TC", before which she remarked, "Now, I don't pretend to be a piano player. I just like to splash around on it every now and then. I make no bones about it." :) After a few slower songs she decided to liven things up a bit and presented a great cajun number -- I wish she'd explore that genre more often. All in all, a wonderful live experience, highly recommended. And it was great to meet Nick Hill, too. Hi, Nick! :) Michael Berch dug up: >And thanks to those who sent suggestions, especially Meredith (who >suggested maybe "It's Not The Bullet That Kills You, It's The Hole" and >confirmed that the Andy Kaufman thing was not on any (previously) >released Laurie Anderson album. You're welcome, but I'd never heard the Andy Kaufman thing before I got my copy of _The Ugly One With The Jewels_ myself... Sometime this week, I think on NBC is an "all-star tribute to Andy Kaufman" or some such thing. Somehow I doubt Laurie will be included, but you never know! A final note for the cat-owned in the audience: The best cat toy in the known universe is the red laser pointer pen. It's remote-control: you can sit in the center of your apartment and shine the little red dot off of any surface in the place, and drive your cat absolutely NUTS. We did some serious psychological damage to Puck yesterday -- the last she saw of the red dot it was hiding in her little kitty condo, which woj and I spent good money on and she has never used. We figured that if she thought the dot was hiding in there she'd spend quality time in there looking for it, and lo, we were right. She won't rest until she finds the dot again, though -- I hope she doesn't have a breakdown or anything. Try it for yourselves. You'll see how much fun it is. ;> +==========================================================================+ |Meredith Tarr meth@delphi.com| |Boonton, NJ USA finger info at: mtarr@eagle.wesleyan.edu| +==========================================================================+ |"Though she's just in her twenties, Sarah McLachlan is a throwback to the | | days when female singers weren't expected to cuss like truck drivers." | | -- The New Yorker magazine, March 20, 1995 | +==========================================================================+ ------------------------------ From: kiri@sunset.backbone.olemiss.edu (kiri hargie) Date: Mon, 27 Mar 1995 23:47:21 -0600 Subject: Re: disagreements and bad television >She's great, though I dearly wish she'd just let _Tam Lin_ be the brilliant >coming-of-age novel it desperately wanted to be and left out the faerie >stuff (which she almost did -- it was so much an afterthought it seemed >completely out of place). Still, _Tam Lin_ remains one of the only books >I simply could not put down until I had finished, which completely killed >the day, but hey, I was traveling at the time anyway. :> Ya know, I had just the opposite reaction to Tam Lin. It mostly bored me. My sister went to Carleton C. and I know the place well, and found the book really cool in that respect, but for some reason I just could not get into it.... oh well, can't love everything :) >A final note for the cat-owned in the audience: The best cat toy in the >known universe is the red laser pointer pen. > >Try it for yourselves. You'll see how much fun it is. ;> I'll have to borrow a friends. I bet it works great, cause it sure annoys the hell out of me, when someone uses it in a lecture. All that jiggling around, and bouncing - aggh! The cats would love that though! coming soon, kiri's reactions to Sarah's Fumbling video. :) kiri Kirstin A. Hargie Bitnet: byhargie@umsvm Dept. of Biology Internet: kiri@sunset.backbone.olemiss.edu University, MS 38677 WWW: http://www.olemiss.edu/~kiri ------------------------------ End of ecto-digest V2 #65 ************************* ======================================================================== Please send any questions or comments about the list to ecto-owner@nsmx.rutgers.edu