From: owner-ecto-digest To: ecto-digest@ns2.rutgers.edu Subject: ecto-digest V2 #64 Reply-To: ecto@nsmx.rutgers.edu Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Sunday, 26 March 1995 Volume 02 : Number 064 The Ecto digest is now being generated automatically. Please send problems and questions to: ecto-owner@nsmx.rutgers.edu. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CLBECKWITH@aol.com Date: Sat, 25 Mar 1995 21:05:14 -0500 Subject: Re: #1 ecto-digest V2 #60 Hi All!-- dmargeli@clyde.ICS.UCI.EDU (Dario Margeli) posted release dates for upcoming CDs, including: 18 Apr * Dusty Springfield A Very Fine Love What? Dusty Springfield on ecto? Bear with me for a moment (well, a few moments, anyway!) :-) Dusty, while she certainly doesn't fall into the female singer-songwriter genre, was certainly one of the most gifted interpretive pop singers of the past half-century. Her half world-weary, half girlish vocals were often revelatory, and she played a significant role in popularising soul and R&B song forms in England in the 60s, her BBC-TV series featuring many of the black artists she so clearly loved and supported as guests. The pure singer often gets short shrift in these times, but she had generally superb taste in material and production. Her versions of Goffin/King and Bacharach/David standards are definitive. In addition, she was probably the first female artist of her stature to both produce and mix her own recordings. Her perfectionism was the stuff of legend, and temper tantrums could result if things weren't going her way. Her critcal acclaim peaked with 1969's _Dusty in Memphis_, which contained the classic single "Son of a Preacher Man" (now anthologised on the soundtrack CD of the film "Pulp Fiction.") Her popularity never quite reached the level of her phenomenal success in the UK, which means that US audiences don't have a complete picture of Dusty's body of work. The odd single aside ("What Have I Done to Deserve This" with Pet Shop Boys comes immediately to mind) Dusty has drifted through much of the past quarter century. It's hard to imagine a fifty-five-year-old icon of the 60s surviving such a passage of time with voice intact, but I have high hopes for the new album. [Joni Mitchell's pipes, for example, have been completely trashed (witness _Turbulent Indigo_.)] The new album, in case you hadn't already guessed, has personal significance to me. I rediscovered Dusty when I was in London last year for the Kate Bush convention. It seemed that she was everywhere at the time. _Q_ had done an i n-depth review of her then-new compilation CD "Goin' Back" and Tower Records was featuring it on sale; I purchased it without hesitation. Upon returning to the States and sampling the contents I found that I had greatly underestima ted her talents and her body of work. Anyway, I've rambled on long enough. With Dusty cool again in England and "Pulp Fiction" top-of-mind at Academy Awards time, it would be a shame if her new album didn't get a fair hearing. - --Chris B. ------------------------------ From: WretchAwry Date: Sat, 25 Mar 95 22:44:34 EST Subject: Re: Good news! Valerie writes: > Yup, I'm returning to Chicago! This time hopefully for good (or at least 2 > years). Tribune Company was nice enough to offer me a job, and I was happy > enough to take it. So starting next month, I'll be living in Chicago > (address still unknown) and working for Tribune Media Services. Yay! Congratulations (and HAPPY BIRTHDAY)! Welcome back :-) Vickie ------------------------------ From: WretchAwry Date: Sun, 26 Mar 95 1:07:14 EST Subject: LYNNE ATWELL?? Lynne, I tried to send you the info you wanted, but the letter wouldn't go through. Try writing me again and I'll forward the info to you. Vickie Here are the headers, if it helps: From: The Post Office Sender: mailer-daemon Subject: Unresolvable mail address Cc: The Post Office MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/report; report-type=delivery-status; boundary="A100B2AF5.796031724=_/uunorth.north.net" Date: Fri, 24 Mar 1995 01:55:24 -0600 - --A100B2AF5.796031724=_/uunorth.north.net Content-Type: text/plain A copy of your message is being returned to you because one or more of the addresses you specified could not be recognized as addresses that are understood by, or reachable from, this system. error: unresolvable: Lynne_Atwill@EYENET.NORTH.NET - --A100B2AF5.796031724=_/uunorth.north.net Content-Type: message/delivery-status Original-MTS-Type: INET Final-MTS-Type: INET Final-MTA: uunorth.north.net Rcpt: Lynne_Atwill@EYENET.NORTH.NET Action: failed Status: 500 (unresolvable) - --A100B2AF5.796031724=_/uunorth.north.net Content-Type: message/rfc822 Received: from pilot.njin.net ([128.6.7.38]) by uunorth.north.net with SMTP id <35536-1>; Fri, 24 Mar 1995 01:55:21 -0600 Received: (from vickie@localhost) by pilot.njin.net (8.6.10+bestmx+oldruq+newsunq+grosshack/8.6.10) id CAA24449 for Lynne_Atwill@EYENET.NORTH.NET (Lynne Atwill); Fri, 24 Mar 1995 02:00:08 -0500 Date: Fri, 24 Mar 95 2:00:07 EST From: WretchAwry To: Lynne_Atwill@EYENET.NORTH.NET (Lynne Atwill) Loves: Kate Bush..Happy Rhodes..Jane Siberry..Tori Amos..Peter Gabriel.. In-Reply-To: Your message of Mon, 20 Mar 95 17:47:16 EDT Message-ID: ------------------------------ From: David Dalton Date: 26 Mar 95 2:39 -0800 Subject: Review: Sarah McLachlan --- The Freedom Sessions The _Freedom Sessions_ (FS) is a mini-CD with or without a multi-media (MM) portion; I recommend getting the CD+MM one. There are eight listed audio tracks, plus a hidden track, which are all simpler/earlier/different/more relaxed versions of tracks on the full length album _Fumbling Towards Ecstasy_ (FTE). It sounds like a loose late-night jam session, winding down near dawn, an intimate listen to the band. I recommend it even if you already have FTE. Here are some rough comments, first some notes made after the first listen, then some more recent detailed track notes after several listens, at different times and in different moods. First Impressions (notes made after the first listen) - ----------------------------------------------------- I highly recommend it as another side of Sarah and her s-Instruments, a late night relaxed after-hours session when they let it all hang out. It is best played at high volume, so you can feel the nice live bass waves with cross-coupling between voice, bass, guitar and the low unmasked earth harmonics of the wee hours. On first listen, at good enough volume, in the wee hours, a few tracks really cooked (warmed) me, like a good live show. At first listen at high volume while I was sitting, "Mary" and the hidden "Hold On" track stood out the most, the "Ol' 55" track is best listened to standing up, preferably with support. Ice, Ice cream, and Elsewhere also were good, Ice made me laugh and cry and rocks like a good jam, Ice Cream has some liqueur and boogie, but the Plenty and first Hold On tracks didn't do _as_ much for me, on first listen. (See below for later positive comments.) This music is like the last CD for that party that goes to dawn, and you use Ol' 55 for waltzing towards the bedroom after the last guests pass out (in either way). It might sound even better if you have some shared red wine in you and listen at 3 a.m., I haven't tested that yet. Later Notes (after a few listens) - ---------------------------------- 1. CD-ROM portion - ---------------------- I haven't played with the CD-ROM portion yet, but from what little I tried and from what others have told me, this is definitely worth getting; for not much more money you get a slough of graphic images, video, interview clips, hidden clickable easter eggs, a whole virtual world that you can explore to gain insight into the world of Sarah McLachlan, as filtered and presented with the help of her best friend Crystal Heald. It runs on QuickTime on a fast Macintosh or Windows machine, with at least 8 Mb of RAM. I think the colours work better on a Mac. The US release is slightly upgraded from the Canadian release. The record label, Nettwerk, has a FAQ about this, as well as catalog, web site and mailing list info, they can be reached at nettwerk@mindlink.bc.ca . The CD + MM version plays fine on an audio player, but you have to skip the first track or you get over 20 minutes of silence or not very interesting static. 2. Audio Portion - --------------------- As I mentioned above, I love the audio portion, and at first listen all but a few of the tracks stood out. Since then, the remaining tracks have also conquered me, with the last to do so being "Plenty". Now here are some detailed notes on the tracks: a. Elsewhere. This is a jammed live version, with a funky rhythm section, sultry night vocals with that ache in the voice that warms you all over. I like it _even_ better than the version on FTE, especially late at night, when FS is the true stereo queen for me. There are waves of bass to warm a corpsicle, some tasty slide, occasional high twangy/jangly acoustic guitar notes to pull at the heartstrings, evoking thoughts of lingerie but not silence :-) . b. Plenty. I still like the FTE version slightly better, but the FS one is an interesting alternative. At first the running commentary of backing subdued "doo-doos" and faint catlike calls put me off, and I thought that her vocals, alone, would be preferable. It seems to be a tale of lost love, perhaps even of a fan (you heard me more than I ever could have imagined) but there is a sense of a promise of regrowth from the stillness. "When I looked into your eyes" evokes images of favourite eyes in the past, notably a pair at New Years. On the FS version the vocals dominate, her voice is less masked by the rhythm section. The catlike calls convey a sense of a stray tomcat. Overall it is good, but I might change the opening. At the end there is a promise of new love at the end, the dye-ing day of yellow spring flowers, of swans necking in colours of their choice. :-) c. Mary. As I mentioned in the "first impressions" paragraph, this and the final hidden Whole Dawn track were my initial favourites on this CD. I like this version even better than the FTE version. There are beautiful achy-breaky vocals, acoustic guitar with vibrato-rich high notes, piano rhythm. There is some drum programming but it is tasteful and subdued, in fact her voice is dominant and conveys a sense of the earth renewing, as we pull together and reconnect with the newly awakened mother earth (metaphorically speaking). There is a promise of hope beyond the fire, the test, of being set on the right path once again. The piano comes out and gets stronger later in the piece, but the guitar remains in balance, and the voice soars with love, over all. d. Good Enough. I like the FTE version slightly better, mainly because I don't like the organs on the FS version; the organs would be more suitable for a choral version though. I would almost prefer an arrangement with a cello or muted trombone, and even sparser foggy arrangement, with her voice soaring over the top. But it is still good, an interesting alternative versus, and her voice is relaxed, and cuts through with a personal feeling, like words spoken at a wedding or funeral (so maybe organs are OK). e. Hold On. This is a sparse version, with voice and piano dominant, a bit jazzy, very slow and soothing, suitable for drifting to sleep holding on to a close friend/lover/pet/pillow/etc. At first I didn't like this as much as the FTE version and the hidden FS track, but now I do, for a different mood, and from a different perspective. This really puts me to sleep, but in a good way, and a promise of a new whole dawn, or re-awakening; also with the same promise to those dying of a terminal illness, with the lover and/or voice to guide you through the fire. But (see later), the hidden track version moved me even more, especially on the first listen (see above). f. Ice Cream. As the liner notes say, this is a lighter, more live feeling version. It has fudge sauce and funky chocolate sprinkles :-) . I like the playful stand-up-like bass sound, which dances with her voice and grounds it. It is suitable for dancing in the kitchen with your favourite pet. But I think the ending is slightly contrived, would rather imagine a tasty breathless/muffled one with some mmmmmm sound or something, or the crunch of the last bit of cone, for coneheads. g. Ice. This is a rocked up version, sounds from the edge, a cool but passionate voice cutting through, with electric guitar distortion showing a curious mixture of pain and pleasure, the sound of glace breaking as we laugh at the random guitar spurts. Her voice has to win a battle with the guitar for control of the river of sound, unlike the other tracks. The rhythm section is a good teamm providing stability, but the main players are voice and guitar here. There are some lyric additions/mods, for the addiction and devotion set. h. Ol' 55. This is a great Tom Waits song, interpreted by the band in a late night jam after what sounds like a good party with plenty of red lubricant and uncorkings. It is perfect for dancing lovers into bedrooms after the last non-lover guests leave, in a fast waltz, with a pronounced swing of the hips "and I lead the pa"[nty]"raid" :-) . But seriously, her voice is again the star, it reeks of emotion, does a few understated low key notes, then, once you are drawn in, washes over you in powerful waves, sets the heart beating true. It was rechorded live, with good harmony vocals, rolling organ, and impressive rhythm punctuation to help set the vocal bird up high. hh. Hold On (hidden track, actually part of Ol' 55 track) This sounds as though it was the original demo, since it has some qualities similar to the Mary track, which was the original demo. There is some beautiful jangly acoustic guitar, with occasional high notes that force you to sit up and pay attention, punctuated by powerful bass, itchy drums, and a growingly passionate smoky/sultry night bird voice, with tears turning to fire in the throat. The voice doesn't cut loose but the emotion does, spilling like the washing of tears, holding you to your seat, where you sit (singing along) watching your lover and sending waves of hope to him/her as the singer does in the song. So, from the earlier piano version, the listener's viewpoint is moved from the recipient of the song to a participant in the singing, feeling the pain of the singer. Still, there is a promise of a whole dawn, to hold one and all. The ending is abbreviated to "hold on for this is gonna hurt like" with no hell, so there is a promise of hope. [In fact, I tend to make my own ending, by replacing HELL with HELLO and/or LOVE.] So in conclusion, I highly recommend The Freedom Sessions. Perhaps one day soon I will comment on the MM portion, although probably not in exhaustive detail, much of the fun is in the surprise. David - -- - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- D.R. Dalton - geophysics Ph.D student, M.Sc., a.b.d. - - - Thea's (UBC grad centre) Fri music booker/tech to Mar. 31, 1995. 3-2406 W. 5th Ave, Vancouver, BC, V6K 1S8, Canada (604) 733-1303 ------------------------------ From: jsutton@rahul.net (Jack Sutton) Date: Sat, 25 Mar 1995 15:14:20 -0500 Subject: Shona Laing/Tanita Several years ago I picked up a two song sampler by Shona Laing with "Fear of Falling", and "Soviet Snow" on it. I thought both those songs were excellent. I just picked up a used CD by Shona Laing called "South". From the liner notes, she may be from New Zealand. However there is no date on the CD. This is a really fine piece of work, and reinforces my initial impression of this artist. She has a really clear distinctive voice, she's an excellent song writer, and she puts it all together in well crafted nicely arranged songs. This might be described as upbeat pop or rock, with lyrics that challenge your sensitivity and nurture your intelligence. I'm thrilled with this $5.99 purchase and wonder if anybody else has additional information on Shona. I don't remember seeing her mentioned on this list before. Has anyone out there in Ectoland seen Tanita Tikaram's new CD floating around the record stores or mail order houses besides our man in Singapore Ranjan? I've been searching the local stores every week with no luck. I even had a dream about that Singapore Airline girl, let see, $16 for the CD, $2500 airfare, $300 two night hotel, $500 spending and food............................yes. Jack Sutton ------------------------------ From: Robert Lovejoy Date: Sun, 26 Mar 1995 16:19:21 -0500 Subject: Ms. Bullock.... On Fri, 24 Mar 95 "Lundgren, Chad" said: >Veronica asked: > >Was there any other stuff that Sandra Bullock was in before _Speed_? >Answer: Yup, she was. I think that her big screen debut might've been >her role opposite Tate Donovan (Memphis Belle) in Love Potion No. 9 . She was also in that Stallone-Snipes Action flick "Demolition Man". Robert ------------------------------ From: Ulrich Grepel Date: Sun, 26 Mar 95 23:58:03 +0200 Subject: Re: of De Lint and such Hi! Dave wrote: > Yeah, I went to the Secret World tour (5th row seat) and it blew me away.. What? There were seats in the Secret World concert? Ilka and I discussed just yesterday how wierd it is that you Americans (and as it seems you Australians too) always have to be lucky and early and whatever in the TicketMaster row to get good *seats*. The only pop/rock kind of concert I've been to that had seats was the Tori Amos one. A kind of concert that benefits from this. And this was what Ilka and I agreed upon - that Ectoish concerts might more often than not benefit from seating. But Peter Gabriel? Bye, Uli - -- "Ein 32-Bit-Betriebssystem fuer uns?" - "Wozu? Wir haben doch zwei mit 16." [IBM ad promoting OS/2] ------------------------------ From: Ulrich Grepel Date: Sun, 26 Mar 95 22:46:50 +0200 Subject: Heather Nova in Stuttgart Hi! Yesterday Ilka and me went kind of crazy and just drove those 230km from Frankfurt to Stuttgart to see Heather Nova for the third time within twelve months - only to go and see her again in two weeks, this time in Frankfurt itself ;-). Nevertheless, it was very rewarding. For those who didn't see her before: if you have the opportunity to see her, do so! For those who did see her before: if you have the opportunity to see her again, do so! For those unlucky enough not to live next to any concert: get a plane ticket (hi Tim!) The show was more or less sold out (difficult to judge from 1st row center...), making about 1000-1200 people in the audience. Quite mixed audience, but with one or two exceptions quite quiet during the songs and quite frenetic between the songs. This is most definitely an improvement to the show last May (~70 people in a venue with room for ~300) and last December (~300 sold out and people still waiting outside the same venue). The show has changed a bit, first there's now a second support act, besides Felix Tod (Heather Nova's producer) now there's also a band whose name I didn't get. The music of that band I just can call 'interesting'. Ilka didn't like them at all. Not at all. I thought, well, throw away the lead singer and get the 'She With The Hand Bag' to the front and it'll be even more interesting. Ilka disagreed. Kind of avantgarde-experimental stuff. The audience went quite wild about the band and we even got an encore - which some people commented as "that was a joke, we wanting you back!". I guess this really shows how diverse the feelings about the support band were. Your opinion, Klaus/Claudia/Wolfgang? Heather's own show has improved quite a lot. We talked to Felix Tod after the show (also to Heather herself, but that's a different story), and he said they worked a lot on lightning, sound, arrangements etc. True to the heart. By the way, there were some video cameras around, probably from the German MTV clone Viva, which also acts as one of the tour sponsors. Noone does know right now when and how these will air, so pay attention! Oh, before I forget - there'll be a live album from Heather coming out in April in the USA first. Someone willing to provide me with a CD? So after Glow Stars (studio), Blow (live), and Oyster (studio) there'll be another live album out. Great! Anthony Horan: Heather's coming to Melbourne soon to do some promotional things. I told her to look out for and say hello to someone called Anthony Horan, in case you'll be able to get an interview... Bye, Uli - -- "Ein 32-Bit-Betriebssystem fuer uns?" - "Wozu? Wir haben doch zwei mit 16." [IBM ad promoting OS/2] ------------------------------ From: Cevad Date: Mon, 27 Mar 1995 07:05:02 +0800 (WST) Subject: Re: of De Lint and such On Sun, 26 Mar 1995, Ulrich Grepel wrote: Hi all :) > Hi! > > Dave wrote: > > Yeah, I went to the Secret World tour (5th row seat) and it blew me away.. > > What? There were seats in the Secret World concert? > The concert he played here in Perth, Western Australia was inside the Entertainment Centre, which seats about 10,000. > Ilka and I discussed just yesterday how wierd it is that you Americans (and > as it seems you Australians too) always have to be lucky and early and > whatever in the TicketMaster row to get good *seats*. The only pop/rock > kind of concert I've been to that had seats was the Tori Amos one. A > kind of concert that benefits from this. And this was what Ilka and I > agreed upon - that Ectoish concerts might more often than not benefit > from seating. > Whenever I hear about a concert I want to go to, I always do my utmost to get the best seat I can, a few examples of this are: Front row centre for: Indigo Girls (although I stood at the stage for the whole concert), Kenny G (The concert was brilliant, but I dont think stnading would have been an option). Forth row for Phil Collins on Thursday night :) (no doubt I'll be standing anyway :) ) Most of the concerts here are held in venues with seats. But that doesn't stop us of from standing when the mood and the song is right :) > But Peter Gabriel? > Yep. There were occassions during this show where I was standing (Solsbury Hill and Sledgehammer were two that I can remember :) ) Regards, Dave +--------------------------------------+ | Dave Cook Perth, Western Australia | | Internet: davecook@yarrow.wt.com.au | +--------------------------------------+ ------------------------------ From: "Ray H. Misra" Date: Sun, 26 Mar 1995 22:02:06 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: New Mouth Music album out! On Sat, 25 Mar 1995, Chip Lueck wrote: > > Mouth Music's thrid outing for Rykodisk melds high tech and high touch in > delightfully impure fashion. Visonary Martin Swan and vocalist Jackie > Joyce create a captivating atmosphere that "Musicisian" magazine called > "a rare blend of the ethereal and the funky, the ancient and the > orbital." > I know I've asked this before, but remind me--who was the original lead singer for Mouth Music, back in the days of their eponymous debut? Love, Ray ------------------------------ From: Robert Lovejoy Date: Sun, 26 Mar 1995 22:03:06 -0500 Subject: Help needed - Tori Amos FAQ Hi everyone, First off, many thanks for everyone's kind words on our dog's sad fate. We greive, and your support has helped us at this time. On to the Help! request. My son Richard is doing a paper on Tori Amos for a High School project. I went on the web to d/l the FAQ, but the MIT site's FAQ was incredibly small and of little help. A link to another site denied us access. What he needs is a fairly complete Tori FAQ, esp. concerning her early years - where she was born, grew up, etc. Oddly, biographical info is not evident on any of the web sites we visited, including one in France. So if any of you have a copy of a fact-filled Tori Amos FAQ, or just bio info, please send it to me. BTW, it appears my email address has changed from rlovejoy@pipeline.com to rlovejoy@nyc.pipeline.com, as Pipeline begins a new phase of development under PSI's auspices. Please don't worry about my receiving duplicate faxes, no harm there. I'll post again when the info he needs arrives. Thank you in advance for your help. I tried gophers, webservers, ftp sites - ecto is my best hope to obtain this strangely elusive information. Robert Lovejoy ------------------------------ From: METH@delphi.com Date: Sun, 26 Mar 1995 22:07:02 -0500 Subject: [none] Sun, 26 Mar 1995 22:05:39 EST os_smtp_open: Temporary failure ------------------------------ From: THE OLIVE-LOAF VIGILANTE Date: Sun, 26 Mar 1995 22:07:30 -0500 (EST) Subject: Victoria Live et al. Hi! Saw Victoria Williams at Town Hall in NYC last night. It was a lot of fun. Vic Chesnutt opened for her, and, well, sorry Nick, but he just didn't do it for me. I don't think he did much for anyone else in the audience, either -- I kind of felt sorry for him. Victoria herself was delightful. As Neal reported she doesn't have a set list, and it was highly amusing to watch the band scramble around to join in as they figured out which song she had just begun. I don't recall the exact order (and couldn't figure out some of the songs), but the set included quite a few songs from _Loose_ ("Century Plant", "You Are Loved" and others), as well as "TC", "Summer Of Drugs", "Crazy Mary", "Somewhere Over The Rainbow" and more. She could have played a lot longer than she did, but union rules being what they are, they pulled the plug after 90 minutes. She did manage to get in "Wonderful World" as an encore, though. We all got to meet Molly, her dog, who spent most of the show sacked out in the middle of the stage. Vic had a few good stories to tell about Molly too. :) She's a beautiful dog. The definite highlight of the show was when Lou Reed walked out on stage, grabbed a guitar, taught Vic a few chord progressions, and led the band in a great rendition of "Sweet Jane". It looked like Victoria had no idea he was coming, he just showed up and asked if he could play. The crowd went nuts. :) Afterwards we had to take a few minutes to explain who he was to Anja, and she still wasn't too clear on it. Mike Curry, Jeff Wasilko, Anja and I headed back toward the subway laughing loudly about the fact that Anja had no clue who Lou Reed was, and I told them what Tamar had said to me when he came onstage, that her roommate, a big Lou Reed fan was just going to die when she heard about this. At that point Jeff nudged me and said in a low voice, "Lou Reed is walking right in front of us," and sure enough, that was him, not 3 feet in front of us on the sidewalk. I almost popped something, I was laughing so hard -- Anja's first words upon discovering the situation were "so what -- he has no clue who the hell I am, either" which just made the whole thing funnier. Maybe you had to be there, but I haven't laughed so hard in months. :) Our big brush with fame. Whoo-hoo. Anja finally clicked on the significance of Lou Reed when she made the connec- tion to Laurie Anderson. She's been duly enlightened now. :) In other news, I finally picked up Jewel's _Pieces of You_ this week, as well as Annie Lennox's _Medusa_. The former is every bit as good as I thought it would be, and the latter I've only heard once when I couldn't pay much attention, so I'm not sure about it yet. My first impression is a lot more favorable than my first impression of _Diva_, which didn't get much better, so there's that. So much music, so little time... to alleviate this I finally cashed in on my birthday IOU from woj and ordered a car CD player, which arrived this week. I got all psyched to install it yesterday afternoon, but it just wasn't meant to be. I can't get the factory radio out of my car, thanks to a strip- ped screw way in back underneath the dash that is VERY difficult to get at, and impossible to drill through because of the angle and the fact that other important parts are in close proximity to it. So much for the CD player. At least I know for sure that no one will *ever* be able to steal the radio that's in there! :P :P :P Later, all... +==========================================================================+ |Meredith Tarr meth@delphi.com| |Boonton, NJ USA finger info at: mtarr@eagle.wesleyan.edu| +==========================================================================+ |"Though she's just in her twenties, Sarah McLachlan is a throwback to the | | days when female singers weren't expected to cuss like truck drivers." | | -- The New Yorker magazine, March 20, 1995 | +==========================================================================+ ------------------------------ From: THE OLIVE-LOAF VIGILANTE Date: Sun, 26 Mar 1995 22:12:36 -0500 (EST) Subject: Weekly update Hi! Yep, it's Sunday, and we all know what THAT means... Irving asked a long time ago, and I'm bringing it up again now because I actually have time: > I brought up male vocalists because i was interested in hearing >what other ectophiles listened to that weren't female. Peter Gabriel, Bruce Cockburn, John Gorka, Dougie MacLean, Robyn Hitchcock, David Byrne, David Sylvian. Mine is a short list, but, I think, a good one. :) I don't know nearly as much of David Sylvian's music as I should, but his recent collaboration with Robert Fripp was brilliant. Speaking of Fripp, I saw him with his League of Crafty Guitarists a few years ago, and it remains one of the best live music experiences I've ever had. Anybody going to see Robyn Hitchcock this coming Friday at the Bottom Line in NYC? Or at Toad's Place in New Haven the following Wednesday? Dougie MacLean is coming to Town Hall in NYC on April 29, and Laura Love is opening for him!!!! Tickets aren't on sale yet, but I know I'm going to be there. What a lineup. Wow. :) > sorry to annoy you with my question. Didn't annoy me! Ectophilic music makes up by far the majority of my CD collection because that's what I'm most drawn to, but I don't exclude male musicians just because they're male. Vickie set the record straight: >I hate to burst bubbles, but deLint knew about Happy a long time before >he started hanging out on GEnie. My friend Angel Weaver sent him a >sampler tape a few years ago, after I turned her and her ex-husband >Mike onto Happy. Mike Weaver is a SF/fantasy writer (_Mercedes Nights_, >_My Father, Immortal_ & the Bloodfang trilogy) and is friends with >deLint. Aha -- thanks for clearing that one up! Moo-Man moaned: >*sigh* When KDGE decides they like an artist. They go out of their >way to prove it to you. You can't listen for more than two hours without >hearing a Sarah song. And now the other stations seem to be doing the >same. >... >It's gotten me close to burnout on many artists I used to like. I >struggle now to find music they *don't* (over)play on the radio here. Oh, my heart BLEEDS for you. That must be rough, to just turn on the radio and boom, there you go, Sarah et al. right there on the radio for all to enjoy. Yep, that's a dilemma, all right. Move anywhere else in the country, and your problem will instantly be solved, trust me. Sheesh. I can't BELIEVE you actually complained about that! WFUV plays artists I like, but the problem they have is that they pick one song from an album and act like that's the only song that artist has ever recorded. For example, if your only source of music was that station you would think that the only Victoria Williams song was "Century Plant", the only Dar Williams song "When I Was A Boy", and the only Happy Song "Collective Heart". At least those artists are getting played, though. Chuck mentioned in passing: >When she played here in Danbury during Solace she joined us >for a home cooked meal and told me later that it was my soup that cured her >voice problems!) Hello, would you care to go into more detail about this, so I can be just the right shade of green with envy??? Thank you... >The light show was incredible. Graham has done a wonderful job. He told my >friend Marty (who informed him that Sarah's tour won some award- Juno,maybe?- >for best tour lighting) Probably not the Junos -- those are going on right now, and I heard about the award before the Radio City show. But yes, Graham (or is it Graeme?) won an award for the lighting of the Fumbling Tour. With reason. It'll be hard for anyone to top that lighting -- unless maybe Graeme himself, and I hope he's hired for all of Sarah's subsequent tours as well! >Cathy Barrett is a doll! Meredith we must have missed you by 30 seconds- we >were late getting there and came into the lobby during Paula Cole's set and >went directly to where Cathy had the power macs set up. Yeah, probably -- maybe you were the one saying goodbye to Cathy when I walked up? >Also I'm sorry I didn't get to meet Meredith and crew but I guess that'll >happen at the 10k Maniacs show at Toads. Sure thing! I'll e-mail you about dinner plans. John Higdon inquired: >And is it just me, or is this a first (including multimedia >CD-ROM material on an otherwise normal music release)? Plus, is the EP >expected to be hard to find, and so should I contact Nettwork directly and >order one? And--finally, on this thread--what is the full address of the >Sarah list, just in case I decide that I can really handle multiple lists? 1.) Nettwerk has done the same thing with a Ginger EP, which has only been released in Canada as far as I know. So no, it's not a first, but I can't think of any others either. 2.) The EP should be widely distributed, since the March 28 US release is on Arista. 3.) You should contact Nettwerk directly anyway, because they're a cooler label and they need your money more than Arista does. :) 4.) The Sarah list is fte@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au. To subscribe, send a note to listserv@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au with "SUBSCRIBE " in the body. I will refrain from comment on the content of the list itself. > Meredith: What was the release date for the new Ingrid Karklins >release according to the postcard you received? There was no release date -- it just said "soon" or something to that effect. If I hear anything, I'll be sure to post it here. Elionwyr noted: > This question has already been answered pretty well, I think - I'd add >Paula Cole to the list as someone who's been mentioned a lot of late and >is not white ????? >And..is Toni Childs considered Ecto music? If so, put her >on the non-white list. :) (Her "Union" album is one of my all-time >favs.) Yeah, she's ecto music, all right. Doesn't get that much mention on a daily basis, but when _The Woman's Boat_ came out people talked about it quite a bit. I actually heard Happy get compared to Toni Childs recently on the radio, interestingly enough... >Well..no, it doesn't - "Gossamer" has a whole different "high fantasy" >atmosphere - but I confess to being a little more in love with "War", >maybe because I found it first. I've forced that book on most of my >friends at this point with positive results. - Side-note: have you heard >Gael's harping tape "For Martha"? It's quite lovely. Interesting -- I read _Gossamer Axe_ first, which I think has a lot to do with the fact that I like it better than _War_. I have a copy of "For Martha" -- it's too beautiful. I can't listen to it. (Do you know the story behind it?) >Fully agreed. I've actually had the really good luck to see her..what, >3 -4 times this tour (I think she's hit Philly that often, but I'm not >sure), and each time is a new delight. My total for the Fumbling tour is 9. Is that a record? Does it make me insane? (I already know the answer to that one, thanks...) >(Another side-note: Am I posting too much? If so, please tell me - I'm >still not sure about What's Considered Proper here, and I don't want to >break any rules. Well..at least not yet! These list-responses seem to >be the best option since I'm reading y'all as a digest, but..if it's >causing a problem, PLEASE let me know!) No, no, no. At least, I'm not one to tell you otherwise! :) Irving asked about: > Mary Karlzen From Florida, originally from Chicago. Has an album and an EP on a tiny little Floridian label I'm not sure the name of, and just released her first major label album, _Yelling At Mary_ on Atlantic. She should appeal to the Sam Phillips fans in the audience. > Jennifer Trynin (boston artist?) Heard her on WDRE, of all places (their new "Underground Network" thing includes featuring "indie artists"). Basic college-radio Modern Rock stuff, didn't impress me too much. Doug Burks reminded us all: >Fourth, three years ago tonight, about thirty Ectophiles gathered in >Philadelphia, part of probably the largest audience ever to see Happy >Rhodes live. I'm happy to realize that most of the Ectophiles who were >at that concert are still hanging around Ecto. `Twas a great time. I >was just listening to the QE2 Albany concert (three years ago Sunday) >tape, and had forgotten how many people were talking loudly in that bar >through that wonderful event, completely untouched by the greatness of >talent displayed on that stage. So tonight, with a hearty shout of "We >love you, Ray!", raise a toast to wish Happy many many more live shows >(including one at the Backstage in Seattle, of course!). Thank you SO much for posting that reminder, Doug! I knew there was some significance to the day, but I was too addled with other things to recall exactly what. I can't believe it's been three years already. Wow. Ray's not with the band any more, but we love him still. :) And I still know Happy's shoe size. ;> John Sandoval reported: > Jenn and I did talk to Cathy from Nettwerk for a little while before the >show. She said that she knew of Happy, but had never heard her music. Someone >in the office ordered BTC, but it didn't arrive before they started this leg of >the tour. I think an ectophile needs to get Cathy a Happy CD. :) She did say >that from what she's heard, she'd like it and she'd be sure to play it for >Sarah. If anyone does give her a CD, tell her John, Jenn and Jeff sent you. :) >She's a really nice person. :) Somebody tell Cathy that if she doesn't want to buy Happy CDs of her own, Sarah has _Warpaint_ and _RhodeSongs_ in her collection somewhere, provided she hasn't lost them or given them away or anything. (Vickie gave her the former, I gave her the latter -- and I seriously doubt she has actually listened to either.) If Cathy can get Sarah to finally hear Happy, the more power to her!!! Maybe I'll *finally* learn what she thinks of _RhodeSongs_. Fog plugged: >Before I go please indulge me while I shamelessly plug WPKN 100% >Listener Supported radio in Bridgeport, Brass City records in Waterbury, >and Gerosa Records in Brookfield, without whose help none of this would >have been necessary. (All cities in CT) Yay!!! WPKN is a great station. Haven't been to the stores you mentioned, but that's not from lack of wanting or trying... Where do you live? Jeffy commented: >I was shocked that she didn't play anything from _Touch_. Sarah's said that she's sick of playing them. Personally, I don't blame her. Fleur greeted: >Hi, Fleur here! I just searched out the Happy Rhodes topic tonight and >downloaded 300+ messages! Yay! That oughtta keep me off the streets and >out of the bars ;D Gee, that must be the entire topic, from message #1 -- hard to believe there's been that many. The Music area on GEnie is pretty lame, imo. Haven't checked it out in a while, I should do that sometime. veronica explained: >and right about now... is where i want to crawl into a hole, 'cause >this probably *sounds* really bad, but i don't mean it at all that >way. this is like people saying that the last leg of Sarah's tour is >a little less than perfect. recent Sandman just seems a little less >than perfect... but only a little. this is so COMplicated. I understand now. I don't want you dead, or anything -- you have every right to your opinion. Thanks for clarifying your position. >i did get, amazingly, to show Neil something he hadn't seen - Dave >McKean's artwork for the Front Line Assembly single "Millenium". and >as Anthony Horan knows, another curious circle closes there... I got to show him the UK Tori Amos "God" 12", for which Dave McKean also did the artwork -- Neil had only seen the CD5. It was kinda cool. :) Moo-Man expostulated: >Third one's the charm... In my physics class in college we were able to stand >an egg upright at various times during the semester. So, I hate to be the >bearer of bad news, but the theory itself is a crock. Thanks for clearing that one up. Should I feel stupid now? :} Uncle Bob lamented: >I'm always plugged into the AG net, or as plugged as they'll have me. I >think I made a few mistakes along the line that may have caused me a drop >in status there, but nobody's perfekt. I wouldn't be too quick to jump to that conclusion... >Anyway, if they want to reach the net, they still let me know, and I post >A.S.A.P. It's just that now I get a fax rather than a phone call. Ever stopped to consider the fact that faxing is quicker and easier when you're in a hurry and have a ton of stuff to do? The message definitely gets there, and it only takes as long as the trip through the machine. Phone calls tend to take longer because of the pleasantries involved, human interaction, you know the routine. Sometimes when you're buried it's easier to just send off a one-sided fax. A bit less personal, but it gets the job done in a pinch. Back to veronica again... >and hmmm... there's a Tori UtP poster, black and white, soft focus, >Tori in a chair, white picket fence behind her. does anyone else >think she looks like Sarah McLachlan in this picture? Um, no. Sorry. :) Neal reported: >Almost of as much note is the concert cancelations of the next few >weeks. Innocence Mission cancelled apparently due to the lead singer >being sick. SO if they cancelled in your area, the tour is supposed >to reschedule. I find this exceedingly amusing. Innocence Mission have cancelled EVERY SINGLE SHOW they've been scheduled to do in our area since the beginning of time, and as a result woj and I have never managed to see them. I'm beginning to think they just don't want to tour. I just joked with someone earlier this week that the reason the Iron Horse Music Hall in Northampton, MA is closing (tragic, but true :( ) is because Innocence Mission was sched- uled to play there in May and they couldn't think of a more original excuse to cancel the show. Valerie crowed: >Yup, I'm returning to Chicago! This time hopefully for good (or at least 2 >years). Tribune Company was nice enough to offer me a job, and I was happy >enough to take it. So starting next month, I'll be living in Chicago >(address still unknown) and working for Tribune Media Services. A great big public YAY!!!!! And Happy Birthday, you. :) >I'm looking forward to getting furniture and a VCR. Isn't that pathetic? No. Perfectly understandable. Of course, every artist in your collection is now going to take Chicago off of their future tour lists just so you can't make it to their shows, but other than that, it should be a good new beginning for you. :> Chip mentioned: >I have not seen this mentioned in Ecto (and I admit that have had to >skim or skip some messages recently), but Mouth Music has a new album out >called "Shorelife". I heard a track from it very early the other morning -- wasn't awake enough to pay much attention, but it sounded really good. I'll have to hunt it down soon. >Varttina played in Chicago on March 12, and the following article appeared >in the Chicago Tribune on the 13th. I'm transcribing it for those who >are interested. (The concert was *EXCELLENT*, IMHO) NPR aired a review of Varttina's new album on All Things Considered this past week, and it was the first unfavorable review I've heard from that particular critic. He maintained that it was a big mistake for them to attempt to blend traditional music with modern styles. Based on the snippets of the album he used to illustrate his point I'd be inclined to agree, but I'll reserve judgement until I've had a chance to listen to the entire thing. Jack Sutton wrote: >Several years ago I picked up a two song sampler by Shona >Laing with "Fear of Falling", and "Soviet Snow" on it. I >thought both those songs were excellent. I just picked up a >used CD by Shona Laing called "South". From the liner notes, >she may be from New Zealand. However there is no date on >the CD. _South_ was released in 1988, and yes, Shona Laing is from New Zealand. That was her first album to be released in the US (I think it was also her first album ever, but I'm not sure) and she's had two since then, but both have, imo, sucked the big one. _South_ is a nice piece of nostalgia, though, and "Soviet Snow" is really a great song. That's it for this week. :) +==========================================================================+ |Meredith Tarr meth@delphi.com| |Boonton, NJ USA finger info at: mtarr@eagle.wesleyan.edu| +==========================================================================+ |"Though she's just in her twenties, Sarah McLachlan is a throwback to the | | days when female singers weren't expected to cuss like truck drivers." | | -- The New Yorker magazine, March 20, 1995 | +==========================================================================+ ------------------------------ End of ecto-digest V2 #64 ************************* ======================================================================== Please send any questions or comments about the list to ecto-owner@nsmx.rutgers.edu