From: owner-ecto-digest To: ecto-digest@ns2.rutgers.edu Subject: ecto-digest V2 #52 Reply-To: ecto@nsmx.rutgers.edu Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Sunday, 19 March 1995 Volume 02 : Number 052 The Ecto digest is now being generated automatically. Please send problems and questions to: ecto-owner@nsmx.rutgers.edu. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jeffy@wam.umd.edu Date: Sun, 19 Mar 95 01:42:05 EST Subject: Re: Sarah Brightman phanes asks: >'Lo there! I was wondering if Sarah Brightman was that popular wit' any >me fellow Ectophiles. I know she is a lot more mainstream than most 'o >the women we like, but she still has some great songs on her album "Dive." She didn't get too much talk here. _Dive_ is, in my opinion, a mediocre album with a couple of great songs which is nearly ruined by the absolutely *wretched* "Johnny Wanna Live." The fact that Brightman chose to cover this piece of crap was bad enough, but when she tries to emote, one is hard pressed not to keel over from laughing. If she thinks that she's conveying anything with her delivery, I'm strongly relieved *not* to have seen her attempt to act in _Phantom_. I'd also have to say that Brightman has a terribly weak voice and she's really straining to sing a number of the songs on _Dive_. Still, I do pull the album out occasionally, and enjoy a bunch of songs whose names I can't remember right now. >I like her also becasue of her musical background as the >original female lead in Phantom of the Opera This is a musical background? Sorry, but I think I'd have to go with Roger Waters on this one... Incidentally, in future posts please limit your line length to <80 characters (and preferably <75 for quoting ease). Also, netiquette recommends that sigs be no longer than 4 lines. It's particularly uncouth to have a sig that is more than twice the size of your posting to the mailing list. Welcome to ecto! Jeff (who really isn't intending a flame, merely voicing a dissenting opinion about Sarah "My Marriage to Andrew Lloyd Webber Was Solely One of Convenience" Brightman". (Oh dear. jeffy seems to have done it again -- gone and criticized her mercilessly)) ------------------------------ From: Philip Sainty Date: Sun, 19 Mar 1995 20:09:47 +1200 Subject: Re: she goes in circles slowly, long and winding, BeWare! veronica wrote (eventually :) > moving right along to the next circle of (my) hell(-post)... > > On Wed, 1 Mar 1995, Ray H. Misra wrote: >> >>> last night of Curse of the Demon and The Exorcist. (By the way, the >>> Exorcist is the scariest movie I have ever seen. Has anyone ever seen >>> anything more terrifying?) >> >> "Delicatessen". > > which i didn't see, but "Dead Alive" was qute good, but hmm. well more > *hilarious* than terrifying, at least for me. This film ("Braindead" was its original title, but had to be changed in the US due to there already being a film by that name over there) is most definitely a comedy, albeit a gory one :) ("A love story with guts" was the advertising line :) Peter Jackson directed. It was his third film; the first being a film that well matched its title - "Bad Taste" (made over several years on a miniscule budget); and the second was a look at the seedier side of cute puppet shows called "Meet the Feebles". Sort of a 'Muppets from Hell'. All three films are funny, (and quite frequently gross, it must be said), but "Braindead" had considerably better financing than the previous two, and looks a lot slicker for it. Jackson's most recent film is a step in a totally different direction, and was highly acclaimed here in NZ. Called "Heavenly Creatures", it is a drama about a famous murder case involving two young girls, whose parents wished to seperate them due to their friendship being too close for the parents' liking. Unfortunately, despite its lengthy run here when it first opened, I managed to miss out on seeing it, but I'm hoping to catch it soon as I think it's now showing again locally... By all accounts that I've heard, it's quite excellent. As for the scariest film I've seen? Well that'd likely be something I saw when much younger, as it was easier to scare me then :) I remember a film in which a woman made some kind of pact with the evil entity of your choice to keep her forever youthful, and a picture of her aged instead... The exact details escape me, but I remember I had nightmares about the scene where she uncovered the picture to find a withered old woman looking back out of the frame... > > "Suspiria". > > which i loved and which brings us round to Miranda Sex Garden, :) Just the other day I lent my "Suspira" CD to a friend who loves the film, as I'd only just discovered that the album was named after it! Philip _ _ ___ _ _ _ (_ / | / \ |_) |_| | | (_ Philip Sainty (_ \_ | \_/ | | | | |_ (_ ectophil@comp.vuw.ac.nz - -------------------------------------------------------------- "This is where I want to be, this is what I need." --Kate Bush ------------------------------ From: Michael Matthews Date: Sun, 19 Mar 1995 03:30:16 -0500 Subject: Today's your birthday, friends... i*i*i*i*i*i i*i*i*i*i*i *************** *****HAPPY********* **************BIRTHDAY********* *************************************************** *************************************************************************** ******************** Barry Wong (barry@gnu.ai.mit.edu) ******************** ********* Graham Dombkins (GRAHAM.G.R.DOMBKINS@msmail.bhp.com.au) ********* ******************** Ian Young (imy@wcl-rs.bham.ac.uk) ******************** ******************** Jeff Wasilko (jeffw@triple-i.com) ******************** *************************************************************************** -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Barry Wong Thu March 19 1970 Merlin Graham Dombkins Fri March 19 1965 Pisces Ian Young Wed March 19 1969 Falling Rocks Jeff Wasilko Wed March 19 1969 Pisces Geoff Carre Sat March 20 1954 Pisces Bob Brown Thu March 22 1951 Ham Valerie Nozick Thu March 25 1971 Aries Jennifer Albert Wed March 30 1966 Aries (w/Cancer rising!:) Warpaint Mon April 01 1991 Brilliant! 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Bravo Mon April 05 1971 Dandelion Wine Brion McIntosh Sun April 06 1958 Aries David Dixon Tue April 07 1970 Aries Klaus Kluge Sun April 10 1960 Unicorn Steve VanDevender Sun April 10 1966 Racer Art Liestman Fri April 10 1953 Repeat Michael Bowman Wed April 11 1962 Aries Wolfgang Ullwer Fri April 11 1969 Widder Stuart Myerburg Mon April 14 1969 Aries T-Bone Wed April 15 1992 happy cat Jeff Hanson Sat April 16 1966 Aries Michael Klouda Mon April 17 1967 Aries - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ------------------------------ From: Irvin Fei-Chiang Lin Date: Sun, 19 Mar 1995 02:46:47 -0600 (GMT-0600) Subject: sarah brightman, male vocalists, artists of color. =09 =09so what is sarah brightman up to nowadays? =09i picked up dive awhile back on clearance and really lked it=20 (very watery feel to it). she was in phantom of the opera but =FCi don't= =20 really like andrew llyod webber (too too cheesy) and her voice is really=20 annoying to me elsewhere (i am surprise i like dive). I normally don't=20 like sopranos. too screechy. I know that sarah brightman has had at=20 least two other solo albums released before, but i haven't heard them and= =20 i don't know what they sound like. sorry... =09couple of questions. I know that ecto revolves around female=20 vocalists but i was wondering if there were any male vocalists that=20 people would consider 'honorary ecto music.' =09my first jump would be peter gabriel since he is so in tune with=20 other ecto artist (collaborated with kate bush, laurie anderson, paula=20 cole sung back up, sarah mclachlan idolized him). i also know freedy=20 johnson (spelling?) has been brought up as well. =09i am asking because i have realized that nearly everything i=20 listen to is by a female artist (unless it is a dance/club song) and it=20 is beginning to annoy my boyfriend. =20 =09I have also noticed that ecto seems to me a description of white=20 female musicians. Not to say that everyone only listens to ecto music or= =20 music put out by white musicians,=20 but has anyone discussed any artist of color on this list? just wondering. =09sorry to ramble on. =20 =09love and hugs=20 =09irvin ------------------------------ From: Damon Harper Date: Sun, 19 Mar 1995 04:43:40 -0700 (MST) Subject: Re: Sarah Brightman i love Dive too - and what really pisses me off is, i took it out just the other day after not listening to it for ages, and somehow a big nasty player-defeating scratch has appeared right in the middle of "seven seas", one of my favourite tracks :( Dive is a great album... heck, maybe i'll have to go buy myself a new copy (if only i were rich :) as far as future albums are concerned, i remember hearing that she was supposed to be coming out with one called Fire or somesuch, another "theme" sort of album, though i can't remember where i heard this. i hope it's true; if it's anywhere near as good as dive i'll be happy. i have no idea when this album is supposed to be released, or even if it is still planned. ah well, if i see it i'll buy it :) Damon -- ]*[ -- "I can't deny, they've got appeeeeeeeeeeeal!" - "Weird Al" Yankovic on potatos (in "Addicted to Spuds") Damon_Harper@mindlink.bc.ca nomad@{vertigo|trance}.helix.net * nomad@kazak.nmsu.edu ------------------------------ From: Michael Matthews Date: Sun, 19 Mar 1995 07:15:40 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Help, I've been published on the web :) On Sun, 19 Mar 1995, anthony baxter wrote: > Anthony, who hasn't bought any CD's in 6 weeks now (saving for a car... it's > very very difficult...) As someone who just plunked down boku bucks for a 1995 Dodge Intrepid ES with just about every option, I know _EXACTLY_ what you're talking about. No new CDs for me for a few months, thankyouverymuch. Quite a leap from a 1990 Sunbird LE, huh? - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mike Matthews, Mike_Matthews@sgate.com (NeXTmail accepted) ------------------------------ From: hamster@werple.mira.net.au (Anthony Horan) Date: 20 Mar 1995 00:29:14 +1100 Subject: Re: Help, I've been published on the web :) anthony.baxter@aaii.oz.au (anthony baxter) writes: >Anthony wrote: >> The URL is http://www.ozonline.com/beat/ >That should be: http://www.ozonline.com.au/beat/ *blush* Yup, I realised that at exactly 2.34am last night while playing a Smashing Pumpkins song at work. A little naggy thing said to me "Anthony, you did remember the .au bit, didn't you?" To which I replied "errm, nope". Thanks for the correction, Mr Baxter :) >Anthony, who hasn't bought any CD's in 6 weeks now (saving for a car... it's >very very difficult...) That's why I don't drive. :-) - - Anthony (on my online account) - -- (@) (@) | Anthony Horan UU | Melbourne Australia //////// | "Alas, poor kcirroY... anthony@xymox.apana.org.au | I knew him backwards!" ------------------------------ From: jeffy@wam.umd.edu Date: Sun, 19 Mar 95 09:13:16 EST Subject: Re: sarah brightman, male vocalists, artists of color. >couple of questions. I know that ecto revolves around female= >vocalists but i was wondering if there were any male vocalists that >people would consider 'honorary ecto music.' Male artists are occasionally discussed, but not too often. Yes, Gabriel is in the pantheon, as it were, and a few other male folks get brought up now and again. But it seems to me they're rather beside the point, with respect to ecto. That's not to imply there isn't male ethereal music (how about early Pale Saints or Catherine Wheel (*very* crunchy, but they always make me think 'ethereal')) or other inspired folks. Just to say that they can be discussed elsewhere. Ecto, I'd have to say, was rather strongly influenced at the beginning by Vickie Mapes (who I'd guess was singlehandedly responsible for getting every one of the 8 or 10 charter subscribers to what became Ecto into Happy's music). Vickie had, for a while, a radio show called _Suspended in Gaffa_. She played only stuff by women or sung by women, and she tried to stay out of the mainstream. It was not, she felt, that there weren't any male artists she wanted to play, but rather that they had their own forum and it was grossly out of proportion to the forum that women got. SiG was her attempt to help rectify that. No boyz with guitarz. She also said on her final broadcast, that she had to admit to liking/respecting Madonna (I think it was Madonna; she might have also or otherwise mentioned Janet Jackson), but pointed out that Madonna had no trouble getting airplay, while all these great talents (like Happy, Jane, Victoria, ad infinitum) were being virtually ignored in the US. Ecto is a lot like that, in my opinion... >i am asking because i have realized that nearly everything i >listen to is by a female artist (unless it is a dance/club song) Since I started reading r.m.g, and more so since ecto got underway, the proportion of female:male discs in my collection has gotten better and better. Wheee. >and it is beginning to annoy my boyfriend. What's his problem with it? >I have also noticed that ecto seems to me a description of white >female musicians. Not to say that everyone only listens to ecto music or >music put out by white musicians, but has anyone discussed any artist of >color on this list? just wondering. Define that silly term "artist of color," please. Are you talking of ethnicity or skin color or homeland, or some combination of the three? Hang around long enough and you'll see everything discussed at one time or another. Hmm, non-white folks mentioned on ecto off the to of my head: what about Sheila Chandra, Aster Aweke, Neneh Cherry, Tracy Chapman, Betty (or do they not count since the band is only 1/3 'of color'?). Isnt' Tanita Tikaram non-caucasian? Zap Mama, as I recall, is, or is largely, black. The sort of folks who write and perform ecto-ish music tend to be white, but skin color is certainly not a prerequisite for being a topic of discussion! >=09love and hugs=20 >=09irvin BTW, what's all the encoding an artefact of? You might want to make sure you post non-formatted stuff to ecto...makes life easier for thsoe of us reading with basic tools. Jeff ------------------------------ From: "Chandra L. Sriram" Date: Sun, 19 Mar 1995 13:51:49 -0500 (EST) Subject: happyvangelizing, and new cds you people are really bad for my bank balance. i got the jewel cd, and like it a lot, though it's maybe a bit folkier than i usually like. i also got a jann arden album from 1993 thanks to people talking her up here. that's good, though i think i only really like the first three songs or so. got a cranes ep, which was snazzy. And i am still in ecstasy over the new annie lennox album. she is just so amazing. unfortunately, i am very very poor now. but i'm happy to find that my happyvangelizing sometimes pays off. at the local vibes, i am constantly abusing the poor workers for more ectophilic stuff, which they are pretty obliging about. i even got them to remove happy from the new age section. well, yesterday when i went in one of the guys who works there comes bounding up to tell me, first, that he saw sarah in philly and she is a goddess, and second, that he heard happy on the radio on the drive home and likes her a lot, like a really weird kate bush (meant to be a compliment, of course). well, my work here is done. chandra "i used to have demons in my room at night, desire depsair, desire, so many monsters," --annie lennox ------------------------------ From: fleur@iglou.com (Joanna Phillips) Date: Sun, 19 Mar 1995 16:14:52 -0500 (EST) Subject: RhodeSongs... Here is something I wrote last night, in the dark and stillness, right after listening to "RhodeSongs" all the way through: - ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Sunday, March 19, 1995 2:22am est I just finished listening to "RhodeSongs"...and these are impressions: I heard the entire album of "Building the Colossus" before this, so had the definite impression that Happy Rhodes is a Strong Woman. On this album, as it went along, I first was struck by the feeling that I was listening to a goddess 10 feet tall...when she sings in her lower registers, it touches something very deep in me...the sound of her voice, no matter the words, in this range, is...well, spiritual (for want of a better word) and compelling. But then later on in the album, I saw vulnerabilities that made her more accessible... (still feeling overwhelmed and finding it hard to find words...) Feed The Fire: "I went out to the hazel wood/Because a fire was in my head..." (W.B. Yeats) The fire of creativity, ever reaching upward...This feels more than just giving homage to contemporaries for their influence and inspiration...it feels as if one is surrounded by unseen Old Ones who've aided and guided... The Wretches The troubadour giving gentle advice... Gone Awry: Ode: Comfort and consolation...such *beautiful* words! Happy is a superb lyricist! I Say: *This* is the strong woman/goddess! Quietly powerful... I love this song! Save Our Souls: *Good* social commentary! Because I am an inveterate folk music fan, I find Happy to often be in the company of such greats as Gordon Lightfoot, Joni Mitchell, and so many others. The Revelation: I do not really understand this one yet....... Because I The strong woman, not bitter but resolute...reminding Learn: the rest of us not to fall into "scripts"! If So: The first glimpse of vulnerability...but dealing with it...maybe in denial at this point, though.......Good song, though! Given In: Learning to live in a strong, steady manner...and exhorting others to do likewise, as far as is possible. Self-acceptance too... In Hiding: ::peek!:: Happy looking out, we are seeing in... surprise! Sweet song..... I Have A Here is the real vulnerability, making me weep for her Heart: pain...... (and words run out here....) Ashes to Ashes: I have heard the Bowie version only once...I like this song, though...mostly for Happy's gorgeous voice! Let Me Know, Letting us see her trials at growing...a precursor to Love: "Building the Colossus"? And letting us all see that these are universal feelings... Temporary and This is sooo beautiful and mystical and comforting! Eternal: Summer: Letting us see in upon her pain...but seeing her working on gaining strength... Feed the Fire Again, this mystical song...but I can't hear all the (Tribute): lyrics in the last verse on this version...Later, I hope . Other thoughts: I listened to both "Equipoise" and this ("RhodeSongs") on headphones. The sound quality is incredible! Happy's melodies and chord progressions are so beautiful (and interesting!); and the quality of musicianship is expert! I have to listen to "Building the Colossus" on headphones now! I am *so* glad I was introduced to Happy's music by my heart-brother! :) :) He's a good influence on me ;) - --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ::mouse wanders out door in a 'happy' daze...:: ;) - -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Joanna M. Phillips | "...And into midnight's tapestry she fades ragged fleur@iglou.com | and wild/Hunting down her ancestry in the costume fleur@genie.geis.com | of a Persian child." -- Joan Baez ------------------------------ From: "R. N. Dominick" Date: Sun, 19 Mar 1995 18:19:28 -0500 (EST) Subject: Review of Tracy Chapman, 3/15/95 [ It's been a week, almost; for the people I promised this to, I'm sorry. ] Concert Review: Tracy Chapman at Bogart's, Cincinnati, OH March 14th, 1995 Tracy Chapman's music has meant much to me over the years. When I first got a stereo, her self-titled debut album was the first bit of music I bought for myself with my own money. I still have that cassette, and it still plays; the lettering is almost worn off both sides of the tape and it wavers in the middle of "Mountains of Things", but whenever I go somewhere with my cassette Walkman, it's always one of the tapes I take. I was very surprised to see the announcement of the Tracy Chapman concert, weeks before the first ads were placed. It came with no fanfare and no advertising other than one text line on Bogart's normal roster-type ads. I bought tickets when they went on sale, taking an unscheduled break from work to do so. I was also running late the night of the concert; I had taken an unscheduled nap. ;-) As a result, when I arrived, there was already quite a line, although it wasn't very long before they started letting us in. By that time, though, the box-office line was LONGER than the line of folks waiting to get in; by all accounts, the concert eventually sold out. Upon getting to the door, I saw a big sign that read: "By request of the artist, there will be NO SMOKING tonight". Since Bogarts is usually a hot smoky hell one must endure to see a concert, this was VERY welcome. As they were letting us in, the opening act was already playing. I'm sorry, I've forgotten his name; he was pretty folk and pretty good. If there's enough interest, I can find out what his name was. It took forever to set the stage for Tracy's set. Finally, they came out and started to play. I didn't have a pad or anything so I don't know an exact play list; there seemed to be a good mix of songs from the first two albums -- I don't think there was anything from "Matters of the Heart", even though a couple people were yelling for "Used to be a Sailor" (if I were the type to yell out song title requests at concerts, then I might have done this too -- I *love* that song) -- and four or five new songs (including "The Rape of the World" (great, beautiful, almost world-musicy -- "Mother of us all, place of my birth... how can we stand by and watch, the rape of the world?"), "The Promise" (a wonderful Tracy song just like I like them -- slow, melodic love songs) and several others -- all *wonderful*; if the new album is going to be like this it will be AWESOME). Apparently a new album is in the works, as some of these songs were very recently written. Tracy's mother (and aunt) had driven "a long, long way" to be at the concert; beforehand, Tracy had asked her what song she most wanted to hear. The result was a beautiful acoustic performance of "All That You Have Is Your Soul" and a resultant round of applause that lasted for a long time indeed. One of the new songs (which I don't remember the title of or any of the lyrics from; I wish I had taken a pad!) was about having a sense of community. Before the show, we were pointed towards a box and some index cards and told to write things if we wanted to, and maybe Tracy would read them during the show. She did, so that we would know more about the people we were seeing her concert with and what they were thinking on and about. Perhaps the coolest was one that said "Ban Cincinnati" (which got LOTS of applause from people not thinking about what would have happened if Tracy had banned Cincinnati). One of them said "A peanut is neither a pea nor a nut" and Tracy said: "Y'know, we get one like that at every show, except last time it was: 'An eggplant is neither an egg nor a plant.'" (My aside: if an eggplant isn't a plant, what the hell IS it besides purple?) It was kind of a long, 10-minute intro/segueway into the song, but cool nonetheless. The song was good, too, even though I am brain-damaged and can't remember much of it. Other songs performed included (from memory and looking at track lists, so NOT in this order): "Talkin' Bout a Revolution", "Fast Car", "Behind the Wall" (which brought wild applause; every time she started to say "thanks" we started to clap more; she spent about five-ten minutes blushing, smiling, and probably wishing we would stop), "Baby Can I Hold You", "Mountains of Things", "She's Got Her Ticket", "Why" (which was the opener, in a new crunch-rocky version), "For My Lover" (which was WONDERFUL) (boy, I just noticed that she did MOST of her first album!), and "Crossroads". There may have been a few more from the second album (current me-reported total is 2), but I am not sure. She came out for one encore, which consisted of "No More 'I Love You's" and "Don't Fade Away". The index-card-box where we dropped our cards also listed (surprisingly and very very coolly) a home page, which was: http://www.nando.net/music/gw which, as of last Thursday or so, wasn't really up yet. However, just going to http://www.nando.net and flailing around a bit until you get to the music page lists Tracy Chapman's as "still in the oven". Hopefully, it'll be up soon. - --r. - -- This is a completely unusable thingamabob. cinnamon@one.net ------------------------------ From: pmcohen@netaxs.com (Paul Cohen) Date: Sun, 19 Mar 1995 18:29:50 -0500 Subject: Re: Moev >and so over the weekend someone showed me that Sarah did backing vocals >for Moev, um who the (very french english deleted) are Moev and are they >ectophonic? Moev are Nettwerk labelmates of Sarah's. Dunno if they're ectophonic. Early on they were kind of oddball electropop, but this was in the mid 80's and I haven't kept up. ________Paul Cohen________________pmcohen@netaxs.com________________________ Philadelphia, PA http://www.netaxs.com/~pmcohen/ ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo talk: pmcohen@slip-91.netaxs.com ------------------------------ From: THE OLIVE-LOAF VIGILANTE Date: Sun, 19 Mar 1995 18:43:24 -0500 (EST) Subject: Meredith does it again, part 1 Hi! My report of the Sarah McLachlan show last night will follow in the next post. For now, it's time to get to what is turning out to be my weekly Klaus. Sigh... anybody want to offer me a job? Preferably music/radio- related, as far away from client services management as possible... gack. cinnamon rebutted: >Also note that it is probably not Laurie or origart@aol.com who chooses >just where she's playing -- it's Voyager, who's sponsoring the tour. Yeah, I know, but Laurie has enough stature now that one would think she'd have a say in things if she really wanted to... but there's nothing I can do about it, so I'll just shut up now. :) Kiri reported: >well mississippi conservatism strikes again. >our usenet access has just been censored recently. >we lost all groups with satan/demon/sex/explosives, >and any other 'damning' sensitive newsgroups. Grrrrrrrrr.... this *really* pisses me off. >Unfortunately there isn't a large enough computer >user group to lodge a complaint. This sucks. There's nobody in the law school who is also a computer user who can help you out? This sounds like a First Amendment violation to me. Philip Sainty replied: >It seems quite possible that it was a problem of that nature, but unless >there's been a public announcement by the Australian designer about why >it happened (which there may well have been - I've not kept up to date >on it all), I'd be kinda surprised if the America^3 skipper got the >exact facts of the matter before the media did... Why? The skippers do talk to one another, I'm sure... and in a situation like that, I would be surprised if the skippers *didn't* ask the Australian skipper why the accident occurred, so they could make double sure it wouldn't happen to their boats. But I think there had been a media announcement as to the cause of the accident, anyhow. >[in response to Greg:] > >> I'm not denying that Sarah in pigtails is cute. Happy was pretty damn cute >> in them herself, though (and don't you *dare* tell her I said that!!!). > >Now, is this an instruction to footah alone? ;) No. It's an instruction to the entire known universe. :> Paul Cohen responded about 10,000 Maniacs: >Now I don't know if Electra is going to hold the rest >of the band to their contract or just be satisfied with Natalie, but the new >band would be a lot better off on Rykodisk, where John and Mary are >contracted. These things will determine if the reconstructed band sticks >around for more than a year or so. Agreed. The new incarnation of 10,000 Maniacs would do quite well with Rykodisc. I had heard that the band was going to be a studio band only and not play live, but that one has obviously turned out to be false. >Fights over the band name often get nasty. Natalie apparently doesn't care >if they use the name. Makes her quite a bit more generous than Roger Waters. Interestingly enough, this week's Toad's Place advertisement has begun listing the names of the band members under the heading "10,000 Maniacs", and when you buy a ticket for the show they tell you, "You know Natalie's not with them any more." Du-uh, really? Mark Susskind announced: >In December, my parents and I moved to the Chelsea District of Manhattan, Herm... I would say "I'm sorry," but it appears that this change agrees with you, so congratulations! :) >However, before I could mourn too long, I was able to get a >ticket for Victoria Williams, $20 general admission, at the Town Hall, 123 >West 43rd Street, for her concert on the following Saturday, March 25 at >8PM. Yay! There will be a passel of ectophiles there (myself, Jeff Wasilko, Mike Curry, Anja, and Tamar, to be specific), so look for us in the front row of the balcony and say hello! >Just yesterday, I was able to get a ticket for Kirsty MacColl, $13 in >advance (or $15 at the door), at The Tramps, 50 West 21st Street, on what >would have been Sarah Saturday, this Saturday, March 18 at 9PM (21 years >and over only). Yeah, that one bummed me out. Sarah is playing the show of her life at Radio City and I have tickets, and then Kirsty announces a rare NYC show at the exact same time. Grrrrr. So how was Kirsty??? >In the future, I will be looking for concerts in Greenwich Village and >SoHo, too. I would have liked to see Shawn Colvin when she was promoting >Steady On in Greenwich Village several years back; she is the only one I >can remember who performed in Greenwich Village. I've got to stay tuned to >rec.music.info and other sources, like ecto, gaffa, and rdt, of course. And don't forget the Village Voice. That's where a lot of the folks on the groups and lists you mentioned above get their information. Check out the marquee of The Bottom Line (at 4th and Mercer in the Village) regularly -- Shawn Colvin and tons more of her ilk play there all the time, and Happy will most probably be playing there again before too long. >This is gonna be a pricey endeavor if my start is indicative of my future; >I also made a reservation to see a modern dance exhibit this Friday night >on Mercer Street between Prince Street and Houston Street (I dip my toe >into SoHo). Neat -- remember the names of any of the dancers? One of my best friends from college is a dancer living in the Village and performing in such exhibitions in Soho and elsewhere -- you just might see her sometime if you go to lots of performances. Vickie commented: >The days of Ectophiles being the first to know things are over. Sad, but true. At least until Susanne is able to hire an assistant or three, get net.access, and have time to disseminate info to Happy's fans online. Any info lapses on AG's part isn't due to any sudden lack of desire to keep us informed, but due to the fact that there just aren't enough hours in the day. (If I win Lotto, I'll help Susanne out for free, but unfortunately that's the only way I'd be able to afford it. :P :P :P) Alex reported: >A week or so ago I received a tan with red-print postcard from Willow Music >that reads: > >"Green Linnet Records recording artists INGRID KARKLINS & BACKBONE > Previewing material from the future release: RED HAND Yeah, woj and I got that card too. I wish we lived closer to Austin. Grrr. >The fact that I have this card is actually Happy-related. When I saw >Ingrid in Tucson last year I talked to her after the show and gave her a >copy of Rhodesongs with a Happy card taped to the jewel box that had my >address on it. I haven't given my address to Green Linnett or anyone else >associated with Ingrid Karklins. So the Happy CD wasn't ignored if my >address was taken from it for mailing. When I gave her the CD she said >something like "Some of the best music you hear is just handed to you." :) Cool! She's heard quite a bit about Happy, actually -- there's always been ectophiles at her Connecticut shows. :) >I was listening to the local community radio station and heard what seemed >like an acoustic version of Loreena McKennitt's "Santiago". I had missed a >reference to her live promo CD on ecto, so I called the station and learned >that that was what it was. I wish I had the time to be on the old ways >list. Has anyone found the CD... was there ever a "box set" put out for >_The Mask & Mirror_ like for the Visit? When I called Quinlan Road last >year someone there (who sounded a lot like Loreena actually, but I didn't >ask) told me they might be putting one out. Yeah, there was a "Live in San Francisco" CD released *to radio stations only*. Argh. However, to coincide with the Australian leg of her tour Warner released a double _TM&M_ CD packaged with the Live in SF CD, sort of like what they did with _The Visit_. If any of our Aussie friends would like to supply those of us needy Loreena fans up above with such item, please please please let us know. :> >Has Sheryl Wheeler (sp?) been mentioned here? Cheryl Wheeler, you mean? :) I don't think she's been talked about extensive- ly here, no. Her music is nice acoustic folk of the traditional variety, appeals to fans of Patty Larkin, Christine Lavin, and that crowd (with which she is often associated anyway). I've never been motivated to actually go out and buy any of her albums, but I don't change the station when one of her songs comes on the radio, either. Neile said re Charles deLint: >He seems a charming and generous man, and I love his writing (_Memory & >Dream_ and _The Little Country_ are probably my favourites), and he has >great taste in music, eh? He is a great writer, and I haven't read nearly enough of his work. You're absolutely right about his taste in music. If someone out there speaks to him soon, could you ask him how he heard about Happy? I can't remember if he knew of her before I started talking her up on GEnie, where he hangs out quite a bit, and I have this purely egotistical need to know if I should claim any of the credit. ;> ;> ;> That' it for Part One. Stay tuned for Part Two!!! +==========================================================================+ |Meredith Tarr meth@delphi.com| |Boonton, NJ USA finger info at: mtarr@eagle.wesleyan.edu| +==========================================================================+ |"Though she's just in her twenties, Sarah McLachlan is a throwback to the | | days when female singers weren't expected to cuss like truck drivers." | | -- The New Yorker magazine, March 20, 1995 | +==========================================================================+ ------------------------------ End of ecto-digest V2 #52 ************************* ======================================================================== Please send any questions or comments about the list to ecto-owner@nsmx.rutgers.edu