From: owner-ecto-digest To: ecto-digest@ns2.rutgers.edu Subject: ecto-digest V2 #51 Reply-To: ecto@nsmx.rutgers.edu Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Sunday, 19 March 1995 Volume 02 : Number 051 The Ecto digest is now being generated automatically. Please send problems and questions to: ecto-owner@nsmx.rutgers.edu. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: THE OLIVE-LOAF VIGILANTE Date: Fri, 17 Mar 1995 22:34:19 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sarah McLachlan news Hi! I just saw a note from Nettwerk stating that eMpTV will be airing video bits of Sarah's show at Radio City Music Hall "at midnight on March 19". I'm not sure if this means late Saturday night or late Sunday night, but I'm planning to set the VCR up for tomorrow night anyway. It's probably late Sunday night, since the show isn't until tomorrow night and that would be a *very* quick turnaround time for editing and all. Annie Lennox is on Saturday Night Live tomorrow night, too. My friend helped the SNL stylist pick the wardrobe for the band (she works for the costume shop from which stylists from shows like SNL, the Jon Stewart Show, Entertainment Weekly and others, as well as costumers from several theaters rent costumes), so pay close attention and see if you agree with her position that what the stylist insisted upon for Annie is *totally* wrong. ;> Less than 24 hours to Sarah... Meredith meth@delphi.com P.S. A great big public CONGRATULATIONS to Valerie Nozick, who got her M.A. and two job offers within about an hour of each other this afternoon. :) :) :) ------------------------------ From: Robert Lovejoy Date: Fri, 17 Mar 1995 23:18:24 -0500 Subject: Greetings! What a week! Swamped at work. If any of you are basketball fans, I worked on the anti-drinking commercials for the NCAA. Also did a marathon correction for one of our local Supermarket chains, some stuff for KGO in San Francisco (news promos), and started a music video for Technotronic. And a few other things! BTW, Chicago 'philes can see my color corrections at the beginning of the local news on the ABC affiliate - WLS, I think. There are little seasonal film vignettes, like people throwing snowballs or ice skating in the winter, or flying a kit in summer, or eating. Late news has night scenes, early news has day scenes, etc. I hope everyone who visited had a prismatic evening last week. I'm still hoping Kevin will change his mind re: distribution. Welcome to all the new folks. Some great stories, to be sure! She can do that. Did some Happyvangelizing at work, and at least one more copy of Warpaint has been snatched up by a supermarket executive. I often bring in a CD of hers and play it as I color correct. Usually I get very enthusiastically favorable reviews, but this fellow just walked out and bought a CD. He would have gotten BtC, but Strawberry's on Chestnut St. was out of stock. Later! Uncle Robert ------------------------------ From: anthony@xymox.apana.org.au (Anthony Horan) Date: Sat, 18 Mar 95 15:07:29 +1000 Subject: Help, I've been published on the web :) Hi all... I'm busy again (!), but just a quick note about the mag I write for (Beat Magazine in Melbourne); they've just taken the plunge into the WWW business, becoming, we think, the first magazine in the world to mirror it's complete contents weekly on the internet. Anyway, I always have something in there; this week's issue has a short interview with Loreena McKennitt, for example. New issues come out in print every Wednesday (Tuesday for the rest of the world :) and should make it to the net by the following day, if not that night. Be sure and let me know what you think - I was initially offered the job of putting the pages together, by the way, but the idea of doing specialised for-profit work for a mere $100 a week (!) didn't grab me :-) The URL is http://www.ozonline.com/beat/ I'll be back soon with actual interesting stuff to say, including the new Ultrasound album (who, you ask? Deborah Conway in an experimental pop band, that's who. With Paul Hester from Crowded House on drums, too... :) - - Anthony - -- - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Anthony Horan, Melbourne Australia - anthony@xymox.apana.org.au Physical mail: P.O. Box 40, Malvern 3144, Victoria, Australia "The red sky was bleeding glimpses of heaven, in sections of seven..." - Rose Chronicles reaching lyrical perfection on "Awaiting Eternity" - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: mklprc@teleport.com (Michael Pearce) Date: Fri, 17 Mar 1995 21:31:08 -0800 Subject: Re: ecto-digest V2 #49 Bradley N. Hutchinson writes, >Just a quick note to tell you all that Happy has been mentioned >in the new Charles DeLint book _The Ivory and the Horn_. He >quotes "Words Weren't Made for Cowards" as well as thanks her >as a person "whose music keeps me sane." He also lists the >following musicians: Altan, Tori Amos, Sarah Bauhan, Lisa >Germano, Kiya Heatwood, Maria alaniemi, Peter Kater, Jon Mark, ^^^^^^^^ >R. Carlos Nakai, Johnette Napolitano and Ian Tamblyn. Jane >Siberry gets her own mention for her "'strange well' of song." > >The book is a collection of short stories about his fictional >Canadian city of Newford. Now there is an obscure name from the past! Jon Mark, with Johnny Almond, wrote and played in the Mark-Almond Band (no relation to singer Marc Almond) and some of the most interesting music of the early '70s. After the band broke up, Jon released a solo album, "Songs For A Friend," one of the most intensely emotional albums I have ever heard. I have been thinking about submitting his (long out of print) album to the Taping Project, backing it up with excerpts from Mark-Almond albums. Jon is one of the few men who is highly ecto-fodder, at least that album, the only solo that he has done (that I have found). Unfortunately, something happened to him (musically) after that. A couple of years ago I happened upon 3 cds of his released in Australia around 1990, but he does not sing on them at all, and the music is newagey instrumental and extremely boring to me. Even "Alhambra," music based on Spanish roots, is barely interesting. A friend who has a large newage collection, who positively loves the genre, says that the albums are not very good at all. Repetitive, etc. So the magic question is, which Jon Mark is Charles DeLint talking about? What have I missed? I think I will go ahead and dub "Songs For A Friend" and send it in sometime soon. I need more people to hear it and give me feedback. mp - -- /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\_________________/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ | Please don't add "*@aol.com" to your twit filter. Thank you. | | mklprc@aol.com | Knowledge for the pupil -er- people. | | mklprc@teleport.com | Give them a light and they'll | | "annoying Xists since 1966" | follow it anywhere! -- Firesign | - ----------------------------->((^o0o^))<---------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: fleur@iglou.com (Joanna Phillips) Date: Sat, 18 Mar 1995 01:33:38 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: joan baez > >PR 03/16 1508 JOAN BAEZ TO RECORD LIVE ALBUM AT THE BOTTOM LINE > > 4 Shows April 10, 11, 16 and 17 With Special > > Guest including appearances by Mary Black, Mary Chapin Carpenter, Mimi > >Farina, Janis Ian, Indigo Girls, Tish Hinojosa and The McGarrigle Sisters > > NEW YORK, March 16 /PRNewswire/ -- JOAN BAEZ will record a live album > >at New York's famed Bottom Line on April 10, 11, 16 and 17. At each > >performance, > >Baez will be joined on-stage by special guests including Mary Black, Mary > >Chapin Carpenter, Mimi Farina, Janis Ian, Indigo Girls, Tish Hinojosa and > >The McGarrigle Sisters. The album will be released on The Grapevine Label, a > >U.K.-based label. The shows will include material Baez has performed > >throughout her > >career as well as previously unrecorded material. Says Baez, "It is my > >pleasure and > >honor to be sharing the stage with a number of fellow artists to record an > >album of folk music; their songs, my songs, and songs of the public domain > >which first inspired me to begin performing in the coffeehouses of > >Cambridge, Massachusetts." > > > >This is not the first time Baez has performed with Mary Chapin > >Carpenter or the Indigo Girls. On several occasions in the past, the four have > >performed as the vocal quartet "Four Voices." > > > >Throughout her monumental career, Baez has performed thousands of > >concerts, recorded over 30 albums, received numerous awards for her > >humanitarian and > >musical work, and has written two autobiographical books. Her most recent > >release was the critically acclaimed 3-CD career retrospective boxed set > >"Rare, Live & Classic" (Vanguard Records). > > Listing of performers by dates are as follows: > > -- April 10 -- Mary Chapin Carpenter, McGarrigle Sisters > > -- April 11 -- Janis Ian, Mary Black > > -- April 16 -- The Indigo Girls, Mimi Farina > > -- April 17 -- Tish Hinojosa > > +woj (way behind by catching up) > ::swooning:: I think I've died and gone to the Summerland! :) :) :) My favourite lady singer coming back! And with some of the best other female artists around! I can hardly wait! I hope they make this into a double-CD set...it'll be worth it to get LOTS of songs! I hope Joan and Tish do "La Llorona" together, just because both of them have recorded variations of it separately...but *anything* they do will be fine! Thanks, thanks, thanks, Woj!! - -jo- (one *happy* mouse!) - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Joanna M. Phillips | ...mice are too busy searching for fleur@iglou.com | cheeeeese to make up .sig files! fleur@genie.geis.com | <:3 ------------------------------ From: Michael Matthews Date: Sat, 18 Mar 1995 03:30:16 -0500 Subject: Today's your birthday, friend... i*i*i*i*i*i i*i*i*i*i*i *************** *****HAPPY********* **************BIRTHDAY********* *************************************************** *************************************************************************** ******************** Alan Sodoma (ajs@fermat.cci.com) ********************* *************************************************************************** -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Alan Sodoma Thu March 18 1965 LuckyLurker Barry Wong Thu March 19 1970 Merlin Graham Dombkins Fri March 19 1965 Pisces Ian Young Wed March 19 1969 Falling Rocks Jeff Wasilko Wed March 19 1969 Pisces Geoff Carre Sat March 20 1954 Pisces Bob Brown Thu March 22 1951 Ham Valerie Nozick Thu March 25 1971 Aries Jennifer Albert Wed March 30 1966 Aries (w/Cancer rising!:) Warpaint Mon April 01 1991 Brilliant! Shorty Tue April 01 1980 happy cat Michael Pearce Wed April 03 1946 Pegasus Michael E. Bravo Mon April 05 1971 Dandelion Wine Brion McIntosh Sun April 06 1958 Aries David Dixon Tue April 07 1970 Aries Klaus Kluge Sun April 10 1960 Unicorn Steve VanDevender Sun April 10 1966 Racer Art Liestman Fri April 10 1953 Repeat Michael Bowman Wed April 11 1962 Aries Wolfgang Ullwer Fri April 11 1969 Widder Stuart Myerburg Mon April 14 1969 Aries T-Bone Wed April 15 1992 happy cat Jeff Hanson Sat April 16 1966 Aries Michael Klouda Mon April 17 1967 Aries - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ------------------------------ From: fleur@iglou.com (Joanna Phillips) Date: Sat, 18 Mar 1995 03:32:18 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: joan baez, etc. > > My favourite lady singer coming back! And with some of the best other > female artists around! I can hardly wait! I hope they make this into a Eek! I didn't mean any slight against Happy! It's just that I have been following Ms. Baez's career since...1960. She is one of my first-ever favourite musicians. I have BtC, and *love* it! I just got RhodeSongs, but have not had a chance to listen to all of it. I just listened to my roommate's copy of Equipoise...I really *like* this album, except for "Cohabitants", which upset me pretty badly. It said in the Happy FAQ that her songs touch deep emotions and hit nerves...well, she did! Scared the daylights outta me! Took a couple hours or more to get over that! I guess I am just tooo sensitive! Anyway, I hope to eventually get all of Happy's CDs. And I have been enjoying visiting the Web sites! And now.... ::ducks back into mousehole!:: - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Joanna M. Phillips | ...mice are too busy searching for fleur@iglou.com | cheeeeese to make up .sig files! fleur@genie.geis.com | <:3 ------------------------------ From: Urs Stafford Date: Sat, 18 Mar 1995 22:00:18 +1200 Subject: Looking at the Birthday list... :) ... I noticed these entries for April 1st... Warpaint Mon April 01 1991 Brilliant! Shorty Tue April 01 1980 happy cat Something tells me there won't be any email addresses there! :) (BTW, when is Xeno's birthday? Enquiring cat-lovers want to know! :) Urs :) - --- Urs Stafford (stafford_u@ix.wcc.govt.nz, whiskers@scfbbs.vuw.ac.nz) Bubba, send me your email address ASAP! :) [qlc] ------------------------------ From: elionwyr@onix.com (Lewars Dusti L.) Date: Fri, 17 Mar 95 18:00:42 EST Subject: Of Happy and de Lint Hi there..I just joined Ecto this past week. (wave wave) Charles de Lint mentiones Happy in his newest book? That's too perfect! I saw her at her last Philly show, and was thinking that she could fit so easily into one of his fey worlds... have these two people actually *met* yet? They really should. (Side note: it's good to run across other de Lint fans; I've been reading his stuff for years now - have y'all tried Emma Bull's "War for the Oaks" or Gael Baudino's fantasy novels? Just curious.) --<--<--@ Elionwyr @-->-->-- "I have spread my dreams under your feet; tread softly, for you tread upon my dreams..." ------------------------------ From: WretchAwry Date: Sat, 18 Mar 95 9:28:06 EST Subject: Re: joan baez, etc. Joanna (hi, welcome to Ecto!) writes in response to her own post: > > My favourite lady singer coming back! And with some of the best other > > female artists around! I can hardly wait! I hope they make this into a > > Eek! I didn't mean any slight against Happy! It's just that I have been > following Ms. Baez's career since...1960. She is one of my first-ever > favourite musicians. Hey, don't worry about that! I never got the slightest idea that you meant to slight Happy, and I bet no one else did either. Wanna know a (not so) secret? Happy's not my favorite artist. She knows it too, and it doesn't bother her. She knows what I think of her, and how much I dearly love her music. I've been a **HUGE** Happy Rhodes fan since 1988, and many here can attest to the fact that I talked people's ears off about her from the moment I got on the net, and was very (ego-inflating writings about how many people I was responsible for getting into Happy via the net and my radio show deleted here because it's just too embarrassing).... In other words, if Annie Whats-Her-Name hadn't made "I'm your number 1 fan" sound so creepy, I'd say that about Happy. Even so... Kate Bush is God. Has, is, and always will be. I've been a Kate Bush fanatic since 1981, and it was through her that I discovered Happy, and a multitude of other wonderful artists. Happy might be more important to my psyche, but Kate gave me my *life*. Even my love of 13 years and I are together because of Kate....we met through her. So, you were saying? :-) No one, ever, has to feel strange about listing another artist above Happy as a favorite. We here in Ecto are far more open-minded and laid back about those kinds of things than perhaps other lists might be. > I have BtC, and *love* it! I just got RhodeSongs, but have not had a > chance to listen to all of it. I just listened to my roommate's copy of > Equipoise...I really *like* this album, except for "Cohabitants", which > upset me pretty badly. It said in the Happy FAQ that her songs touch deep > emotions and hit nerves...well, she did! Scared the daylights outta me! > Took a couple hours or more to get over that! I guess I am just tooo > sensitive! See, this is great, and I love reading things like this! I love Happy stories, and I'd say that I'm glad that you felt compelled to write again to add this, but not glad that you might have been feeling guilty about possibly slighting happy in your glee with the Joan Baez show. I was thrilled that the Joan Baez post got you to de-lurk :-) Get it? Got it? Good! :-) Again, welcome to Ecto! Vickie ------------------------------ From: Michael Colford Date: Sat, 18 Mar 1995 12:01:19 -0500 (EST) Subject: Jewel and Tori. I've been able to listen to Jewel's CD a couple of times now, and at the risk of offending someone, and making a broad generalization, doesn't Jewel remind you of Tori with an acoustic guitar? I mean that in a very positive way. The songs just speak of such intense, personal things. The song "Pieces of you" particularly reminds me of a Torish type of song. Hmmm. You know, I tend to get tired of the "woman and guitar" stuff if I listen to too much of it at once, but Dar Williams and Jewel are really great discs. Looking forward to Sarah and Paula next Tuesday in Boston, and Victoria Williams the following Monday. I'm going to try to get to see Kirsty MacColl Sunday night too. Now why doesn't Happy take a little foray into Boston? PLEASE? Have a nice weekend everyone! Michael -------------------------------------------------------------------- Michael Colford | Reading Public Library | Reading, Massachusetts colford@noble.mass.edu | *North of Boston Library Exchange* -------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: neilg@sfu.ca (Neil K.) Date: Sat, 18 Mar 1995 13:14:09 -0800 Subject: Re: she goes in circles slowly, long and winding, BeWare! At around 7:11 PM on 3/17/95, veronica sawyer wrote: >and so over the weekend someone showed me that Sarah did backing vocals >for Moev, um who the (very french english deleted) are Moev and are they >ectophonic? and since this is a *trend* did Sarah do any other little >stuff maybe we'd like to know about? [...] Hm. Well I wouldn't really call Moev ectophilic as such. They were a Canadian band from the 80s that never really went anywhere (like most Canadian bands), but were one of the early mainstays of Nettwerk (McLachlan's label) along with Skinny Puppy and the Grapes of Wrath. Early Moev featured a female vocalist and lots of tinny-sounding analogue synthesizers that were popular at the time. Later they got a rather nerdy male vocalist who sang their teenage angst-ridden vocals ("Have you ever been a slave to sin? / Yeah whatever turns you on...") to a sort of poppy noisy electronic backing. Sort of like early Ministry, really. At a Nettwerk garage sale last year I bought their best hits CD, which is fun to listen to now and again but isn't really anything particularly exciting. One track - Ha! bible belt - is pretty cool, but the rest I can give a miss. Anyway, supposedly Ms. McLachlan did backing vox for one or two tracks once. If I remember my lore correctly it was Moev that she was asked to front way back at the tender age of 17 when the owner of Nettwerk tried to lure her out West, but I could be mistaken. She's also done backing vocals for one or two other albums lately. Some Canadian guitar band like 54-40 or Blue Rodeo or somebody. > [... ] and sorry, yes i know there's FTE >but somehow... with all the refugees therefrom coming *here* i thought >maybe i'd ask here before i joined another list. especially an asbestos >(apologies to Phil Collins) jacket required list. Ecto isn't asbestos required! One of the nice things about Ecto is how relatively flame-free it is! :) A friendly, relaxing corner of the Net! - Neil K. - -- Neil K. Guy * neilg@sfu.ca * nkg@helix.net 49N 16' 123W 7' * Vancouver, BC, Canada ------------------------------ From: "Bradley N. Hutchinson" Date: Sat, 18 Mar 95 19:08:42 EST Subject: deLint The Riddle of the Wren--Celtic Fantasy Yarrow--urban fantasy--one of my favorites Moonheart--urban fantasy--my favorite at the moment Angel of Darkness--under the name Samuel M. Key--based on Experiment IV by Kate Bush The Little Country--urban fantasy (sorta) Spiritwalk--sequel to Moonheart I'll Be Watching You--under Key--interesting Jack the Giant Killer--fun urban fantasy Drink Down the Moon (Jack part 2) The Harp of the Grey Rose--traditional fantasy Greenmantle--urban fantasy, the mob meets. . . Mulengro--wonderful urban fantasy--another favoirte Svaha--strange science fiction novel that I still think isn't finished, a sequel would, perhaps, be nice??? The Wild Wood--very interesting urban fantasy Dreams Underfoot--urban fantasy short stories in Newford Into the Green--trad fantasy Memory and Dream--wonderful Newford novel The Fair in Emain Macha (Bundled with a book by Fritz Leiber--the only DeLint I ain't got and the only one I've never been able to find) From a Whisper to A Scream--Key again They're all really good fantasy novels. The Key books take place in Newford and are horror and suspence novels. They're really pretty good. I'll be is the best IMHO. Sorry folks--thought since I'd put this list together I'd post it to you all in case anyone is interested. AND if anyone finds a copy of the fair at I'll be at your mercy to let me read it!!!! The titles were going to be in publication year but my brain started skipping about. Sorry. If anyone wants, I could do a better (in order) list by rearranging this one later. brad - -- Thought is an infection. In the case of certain thoughts, it becomes an epidemic. - --Wallace Stevens bhutchin@pen.k12.va.us ------------------------------ From: "Bradley N. Hutchinson" Date: Sat, 18 Mar 95 19:20:29 EST Subject: and one last book I think I left _The Dreaming Place_ of of my list. It's a young adult novel. It is also one of my favorites. Spacey me. I just got home from a conference on working with gifted and talented children and my brain is fried. Too many teachers talking about too many ideas for three days! I learned a lot but . . . my brain is sore. Also, I'll plug Jonathan Carroll since I'm posting about books. Read him. Weird stuff. And that Sandman (Neil Gaimen SP?) guy dedicated a book to him and Tori. I think. . . Music next time, I promise. brad - -- Thought is an infection. In the case of certain thoughts, it becomes an epidemic. - --Wallace Stevens bhutchin@pen.k12.va.us ------------------------------ From: phanes@community.net (Xenophanes!) Date: Sat, 18 Mar 95 21:13:43 PST Subject: Sarah Brightman 'Lo there! I was wondering if Sarah Brightman was that popular wit' any me fellow Ectophiles. I know she is a lot more mainstream than most 'o the women we like, but she still has some great songs on her album "Dive." if someone does like her, do ya know if she has any other albums out now? I like her also becasue of her musical background as the original female lead in Phantom of the Opera, though me mind escapes what the characters name is. Talk ta thous later.. Xenophanes! AAAA A A A A :-) A A "Sing while you may..." A A --Edward Qa-Spel A A AAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AA AA :-( AA "...set me free, remotivate me!" AA --Martin L. Gore AA Edward (Ward) Ernest Kadel III phanes@community.net (Xenophanes) ------------------------------ From: anthony baxter Date: Sun, 19 Mar 1995 17:09:29 +1100 Subject: Re: Help, I've been published on the web :) Anthony wrote: > The URL is http://www.ozonline.com/beat/ That should be: http://www.ozonline.com.au/beat/ Anthony, who hasn't bought any CD's in 6 weeks now (saving for a car... it's very very difficult...) ------------------------------ From: neilg@sfu.ca (Neil K.) Date: Sat, 18 Mar 1995 22:33:55 -0800 Subject: Van Morrison Someone (Marion I think?) was asking earlier about a Van Morrison Web page and if there are, in fact, any. Well a friend of mine has put one together! Here's the URL: http://www.harbour.sfu.ca/~hayward/van/van.html - Neil K. - -- Neil K. Guy * neilg@sfu.ca * nkg@helix.net 49N 16' 123W 7' * Vancouver, BC, Canada ------------------------------ End of ecto-digest V2 #51 ************************* ======================================================================== Please send any questions or comments about the list to ecto-owner@nsmx.rutgers.edu