From: owner-ecto-digest To: ecto-digest@ns2.rutgers.edu Subject: ecto-digest V2 #30 Reply-To: ecto@nsmx.rutgers.edu Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Wednesday, 22 February 1995 Volume 02 : Number 030 The Ecto digest is now being generated automatically. Please send problems and questions to: ecto-owner@nsmx.rutgers.edu. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: WretchAwry Date: Wed, 22 Feb 95 14:10:43 EST Subject: Victoria in London Steve and Martin, thanks so much for posting about Victoria's London show! Nick, thanks for the additional information and clarification! Nick, are you going to be with Victoria at the upcoming US shows? I hope to see you again...want to have lunch? > > Victoria was accompanied by a band consisting of > > Tim Ray (Lyle Lovett, Jane Siberry) Piano/keys, Yay! Tim was the pianist who played on "Count Your Blessings" (the Toronto show with Jane Siberry, Victoria, Mary Margaret O'Hara, Holly Cole and Rebecca Jenkins). > By the way Tori was there and is a huge fan of Vics > they had tea and dinner later that week !!!COOL!!! Vickie ------------------------------ From: WretchAwry Date: Wed, 22 Feb 95 15:02:00 EST Subject: Non-Happy, non-music...about anon-penet.fi I know without even asking that I'm not the only one here who has used the anon.penet.fi server, and who finds it an invaluable and important part of Usenet/Internet, so I'm cross-posting this for the benefit of those who haven't been keeping up on the problem. For more information, check out threads in alt.privacy.anon-server, alt.anonymous, alt.religion.scientology, among other newsgroups. If anyone not familiar with the anon service (except, perhaps, when people have abused the service) wants to know more about it from a personal point-of-view (rather than political, as the following is) then I'd be happy to talk more about it. My thoughts and support are with Julf. Long live anon.penet.fi! Vickie - ------------------------------------------------------ From: an0@anon.penet.fi (The Anonymous Administrator) Date: Sat, 18 Feb 1995 12:03:58 UTC Subject: Anon.penet.fi compromised! I am pretty shocked! Based on a request from Interpol, the Finnish police have gotten a search&seizure warrant on my home and the anon.penet.fi server, and gotten the real mail address of a user that has allegedly posted material stolen from the Church of Scientology. Fortunately I managed to prevent them from getting more than this one, single address. There is going to be a very high-level public debate on how it is possible that a country that prides itself on honoring human rights and privacy very strongly has allowed this to happen. Maybe we can use the publicity to stop this from happening again. But in this situation, I find it pretty understandable that some of you might want all traces of your ID removed. I have now added the alias "remove@anon.penet.fi" to my server. If you want to be removed, just send a (possibly empty) message to that address. But I am hoping it won't be empty. I am hoping that you do outline *why* you have needed the server, and what you think about the actions of the Finnish authorities. The messages will be anonymized using the normal anon.penet.fi procedure, and used to support the demand for a re-interpretation of the privacy laws in Finland. If you *don't* want to be removed, but still want to send a comment, you can use the addresses anon-support@lists.otol.fi (if you are *for* keeping the server) and anon-against@lists.otol.fi (if you are *against* the server). If you want to be anonymous, use anon-support@anon.penet.fi and anon-against@anon.penet.fi. Julf (admin@anon.penet.fi) - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- To find out more about the anon service, send mail to help@anon.penet.fi. Due to the double-blind, any mail replies to this message will be anonymized, and an anonymous id will be allocated automatically. You have been warned. Please report any problems, inappropriate use etc. to admin@anon.penet.fi. From: starowl@bolero.rahul.net Date: 19 Feb 1995 16:34:42 GMT Subject: Police actions in Finland (read Julf's posting) A crosspost: ~From: aakko@cc.Helsinki.FI (Pekka Aakko) ~Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology ~Date: 18 Feb 1995 20:42:23 +0200 Message-ID: <3i5f2f$h41@karhu.Helsinki.FI> After reading Julf's posting here, and after reading today's Helsingin Sanomat (biggest daily newspaper here in Finland), I felt pretty helpless. It seems it CAN happen... ah well, let m quote the article in HS, hopefully I won't be sued ;) Also, the translation is my own, and I apologize if there are "bad" errors, there shouldn't be thou: - -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Helsingin Sanomat, 18 - Feb - 1995 Tuomo Pietilainen The investigators of Bureau of Investigations in Helsinki (police) have confiscated sender information from a link on the internet in Helsinki. The police took information last weeks wednesday from the server maintained by Penetic Inc., Finland, from which people could send anonymous messages and information throughout the world. The police acted upon a request of investigation made by the international church of scientology. The HQ of CoS claims that an unknown person has penetrated into the computer system of the church itself in the United States and has stolen a rapport that is classified as "business security" (*). According to the announcement made by the scientologists the illegal data has been spread on the internet 23rd of January. Helsinki server has been used to distribute the data. The server allows people to send material to the net, showing only a numerical id as a sender. Real place of origin is left to the server logs, with which the sender can be traced. The lawyer for the CoS in Finland, mr. Jussi Savonen, suspects in the announcement that the person whom hacked into the CoS computer system "is possibly the same person" who sent these mails through anon.penet.fi. "At least the person who spread this information knows from where and from whom he/she has got the information", say Savonen. POLICE SUSPECTS UNAUTHORIZED USE The police grounded their search and information confiscation by the fact that the sender is suspected of "unauthorized use (of a computer)". The president of Penetic Inc, mr. Johan Helsingius, says that he hadn't any other possibility than to give the information requested to the police. "Otherwise the police would have confiscated the whole machine" says Helsingius. Police got a sample of so called loginformation, which was delivered to the police in Los Angeles via Interpol. Police stopped the investigations of this case last monday. According to the investigation no one has committed a crime at least in Finland. The investigator assigned to this case, mr Kaj Malmberg, says that the information gathered from the anon.penet.fi logs doesn't necessarily lead to real sender. "You can only see the infromation that the sender has given to himself. I suspect that the information gained from the server won't lead us anywhere" says Malmberg. Also the maintainer of the Anon server thinks that tracing the real sender is hard. "A technically skilled person can registrate with false name" says Helsingius. SCIENTOLOGISTS SILENCE THE CRITICS Helsingius thinks the actions taken by the police are principally remarkable. It is supposedly the first time the police broke the anonymity shield of any anonymous server on the internet. There are about 20 anon servers operating in the world, but the police hasn't been visiting them. The person hunted by the scientologists (CoS) has also delivered troublesome information (troublesome for the church) to the internet before. According to the information gained by Helsingius few anon servers have been silencing the scientology criticism after the church's lawyers have been pressuring the maintainers of the services with their letters. The CoS say the reasons have been the copyright violations. Helsingius wonders also, that according to his knowledge, the lawyer for the scientologists, mr Jussi Savonen, has gotten the information which the police confiscated. "Savonen called my lawyer and asked what the internet codes meant [referring to the log file]", says Helsingius. Helsingin Sanomat did not reach Jussi Savolainen for his comments. [The rest of the article, few lines, talks about the child pornography case that jumped up a week ago in Finland, where anon.penet.fi was suspected of being a gateway for the illegal picture exchange.] (*) This term is a bit hard for me to translate, but it talks about business security and some law stuff... maybe some other people who are more adept in finnsih->english can tell us what "yritys- ja asianajosalaisuus" is more exactly :) - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- But still, I likea reading the Thetan stories from the net, it is as much amusing as the science fiction I can buy from the local bookstore, but now I only have to pay the local phone bill :-) Anyways, let's see what will happen, when the Co$ goes hunting... - -- Pekka "Pehu" Aakko Carrolssin tarjoukset on melko mauttomia aakko@cc.helsinki.fi http://www.helsinki.fi/~aakko ***END CROSSPOST*** - -- "There is much pleasure to be gained from useless knowledge." <*,*> -- Bertrand Russell ~~~~~ Deviled Owl starowl@rahul.net http://www.rahul.net/starowl PGP public key available via WWW and via finger. - ----------------------------------------------------------- Vickie ------------------------------ From: GIBSOND@AA.WL.COM Date: Wed, 22 Feb 1995 15:18:00 -0500 Subject: What a great way to end a week Hi Ho everyone! Well I had an exciting end of the week, last week. I saw my fave poet/songstress the one and only Patti Smith. Patti made a rare special appearance at an Allen Ginsberg performance in Ann Arbor, MI (a benefit for "Jewel Heart" a tibetan buddhist society. Patti read a few poems and did a touching musical number as a dedication for her recently deceased husband Fred "Sonic" Smith. As well as a poem "Florence" dedicated to her recently deceased brother Todd. It has been such a tough year for Patti. I ran into Patti in the lobby after her performance and said "Hi, how are you? I'm so glad to see you, I haven't spoken to you since 1979 at Montclair State College." Patti replied "and we're still here." I am so in awe of her and have a tendency to get so nervous when I talk to her. If you ever ever get the chance to hear her read definitely do it. Allen was great as well. He read/sang a few of his poems. The highlight of the night was his reading of "Kaddish" his best work in my opinion. Patti signed her recent compilation of poetry "Early Works 1970-1979" at the local Borders the next day. I had mine signed and also mentioned her work on Hector Zazou's *Sahara Blue* CD (liner notes). Patti said that a fellow read/sang one of her works on that album the last track she thought. My copy doesn't have that track, I think the import has more songs on it. Can anyone verify this? For Michigan ectophiles: Patti will be performing at the Ark in Ann Arbor on April 8 (2 shows 7:30 and 9:30 p.m.). The show is a benefit for Mariner's Church in Detroit/in memory of Fred Smith. Should be a good one, Patti will be accompanied by her longtime guitarist Lenny Kaye. Well sorry for the length. Have a great day! - ----------------------------------------------------------------- Don Gibson "Paths that cross will cross again" - P. Smith gibsond@aa.wl.com (Was she ever right :)) Ann Arbor, MI - ----------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: torok@nynexst.com (Dave Torok) Date: Wed, 22 Feb 1995 16:00:06 -0500 Subject: Luckily, I'm back! Hello ectophiles, I had thought that ecto was "dead", and I had heard Greg say that he was going to take over the list. But I didn't hear anything, and haven't received any ecto-digests...until today! Only 5 days before my old school account at Columbia is deleted, and I was thumbing through alt.music.ecto (which I don't get at work), and read through Vickie's FAQ. Only then did I realize that the digest was alive & well and that I had somehow not been transferred to the new mailing list. ObEcto: Philly was great, both at the University Museum as well as Friday at the Middle East. - -=$>Dave<$=- the 39th ectophile ------------------------------ From: Neal Copperman Date: Wed, 22 Feb 1995 16:37:54 -0500 Subject: Re: NO NO NO NO NO NO NO (Re: Kind I don't think anyone was trying to imply that lurkers, or anyone, are unwelcome on ecto. In case you missed the start of this, it all came from a college project based on a socioligical definition of a group. It was a restrictive definition, that perhaps has it's place in some world, but does not directly apply to ecto. The whole need for people to post derived from the definitions calling for "face to face" communication. If you allow the computer as a medium for communication and still accept the term as face to face, where is the interaction in the group coming in to play. Am I interacting only with those people who have already responded to this thread and those who will continue to respond? Or does everyone who reads it interact with it in some way too? There are plenty of conceivable groups that don't come anywhere near the scholastic definition offered, but that is in no way a judgement against them or their membership. I think Ivy's paper could be quite interesting if she explores how the improvements in communication expand the possible definitions of a group. While I can't say what someone else was intending, I didn't see that as a knock against people here based on the frequency or infrequency of their posting. It merely pointed out that ecto did not smoothly satsify the definition of group proposed in the course. Neal ------------------------------ From: jrshepar@indyunix.iupui.edu Date: Wed, 22 Feb 1995 19:40:19 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: NO NO NO NO NO NO NO (Re: Kind On Wed, 22 Feb 1995, nancy whitney wrote: > > WretchAwry writes: > > Dirk wrote: > > > > > Michael Klouda wrote: > > > > > > > Additionally, many of us ectophiles read but don't respond, does our lack > > > > on direct involvement separate us from being part of the group? > > > > > > I believe that those who do not interact, those who are only reading, > > > watching or listening, are not members of a groups not a group, either. Nice cascade! Looks like USENET. :-) > > What a load of crap. I tend to lurk. I post when I have something to > say and if I have time, which is not that often. I get a lot from just > reading others postings - I have learned a lot about Happy, I find > out about a lot of new music, get peoples opinions on various > subjects, find out about upcoming tours - whatever! Since when did > this definition come about that you have to post to be a 'member' - > makes me want to unsubscribe!! Don't. FTE had a flamewar because of people unsubscribing. Don't make me start another one. :-) > When I first joined ecto (only around 6 or 8 months ago) it was this > cool flame free easy going group that seemed to have the most positive > attitude of any group I was on (of course, firewalls and bugtraq > aren't necessarily *meant* to be quite as nice I guess). I never felt > threatened or judged. Now it seems like you somehow have to 'perform' > to be considered 'a member'. Sheesh. Well, you're a member if you consider yourself a member. It's kinda hard to feel like a member when you just lurk; more like a spectator. Ask me, I lurk more often than not, while on FTE I'm one of the major players ^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^Hwastes of bandwidth. I often feel compelled to post just to remind myself and the world that I belong here, but I really shouldn't feel that way. If you're receiving mail from this server, you belong here. Again, it's all perception. > > If you're *interested* in this group, then you're part of the group. > > YES! My feelings exactly. Thanks, Vickie! > > Regards - and lurk-on if you like, folks! > > Nancy > It's nice to hear from lurkers now and then, though, and I've been known to flamebait in order to flush lurkers to the surface. But then, I spend a lot of time on alt.folklore.computers, so I'm quite used to flamebait and trolling and generally the nasty side of Internet. I like this list, it gives me an excuse to go spend money on tunes. :-) There's a lot of cool things that get discussed on here, or at least could potentially be discussed on here, without FTE's cries of "topixicity." I intend to take advantage of this open environment sooner or later. Perhaps I should bring my religion thread from FTE over here. :-) Well, nuffa that fer now. Sooner or later the professor will catch me and yell at me for not doing my COBOL. - -John [squid] ------------------------------ From: itos@pavlov.psyc.queensu.ca (Steve Ito) Date: Wed, 22 Feb 95 20:35:52 EST Subject: Milla on Conan Hi all... anyone catch Milla on Conan last night (Tues 21)? I think she must have been a last-minute fill-in because I don't remember seeing her name on the late show guest lists. Anyway, she did a song that I didn't recognize... anyone know what it was? Also, I don't think I recognized a couple of the guys in her band. However, when I saw her in Toronto, and then even when she was on Conan the first time, I don't think I spent a heck of a long time looking at the *guys* in the band. (Sorry guys :-) ). I did recognize the one guy (I think his name was Chris) but that was it. But between then (August) and now, I think she has really polished up her act. She seemed a lot more natural now, her gestures seemed less staged than before. - -------------------------------- Interesting discussion on the "is ecto a group" thing. Brian sed: >Lurkers are of course fully welcome and considered part of *our* Ectophile >family regardless of how one classifies the "group" definition. So if we are a group, are we further a sort of extended family? :-) If not a family, it sure seems to bear all of the earmarks of a community, anyway. And "community" sounds so much warmer and friendlier than "group." (And can friendly member of our cozy little ecto community please explain to me what the hell an "earmark" is?) - ---------------------------------- Am going to see Jale on Saturday. I suppose they don't really qualify as ecto material, but it should still be a good show. Steve - ----------------------------------------------------------------- Steve Ito, R.A. | "Life is pain, Highness. Anyone who says Psychology Dept. | differently is selling something." Queen's University | -- The Dread Pirate Roberts Kingston, ON, Can. | ------------------------------ From: "Hart, Barbara" Date: Wed, 22 Feb 95 17:46:00 PST Subject: RE: ecto-digest V2 #29 Dirk wrote: >If you are watching a talk show or live discussion on TV, because you're >interested in the topic, you're only listening to what the others say and they are >not aware of you. You don't belong to the group, you only belong to the >set of anonymous watchers, and that's not a group, either. I don't know about this. Let's say I watch ER, but don't interact with it. I belong to the group of people that watches ER. And if the show comes up the next day, I can discuss it with the other "anonymous watchers" or "group that also watched". Even though at the time we all watched, we were all anonymous and no one knew who else was watching. Vickie wrote: > *I* think of lurkers as Ectophiles, and part of the group! >Always have, always will. Thanks Vickie, and everyone else who posted similar ideas. I've been a lurker, but I hate to think that I'm not part of this group, just because I don't post. I use the information given here by sharing with other friends that don't subscribe to this list and when I venture to cd stores and concerts. That not only benefits me and my friends, it benefits the artists as well. If someone made a request on this list and I thought I could help, I would, which makes me feel like part of the group, even if I'm not actively advertising my own opinions. Barb ambs0@smtp.ais.ucla.edu ------------------------------ From: neilg@sfu.ca (Neil K.) Date: Wed, 22 Feb 1995 19:06:54 -0800 Subject: Re: NO NO etc. At 7:40 PM on 2/22/95, John Shepard wrote: >It's nice to hear from lurkers now and then, though, and I've been known >to flamebait in order to flush lurkers to the surface. But then, I spend >a lot of time on alt.folklore.computers, so I'm quite used to flamebait >and trolling and generally the nasty side of Internet. I think that one of the most pleasant things about Ecto is that people *don't* feel the need to toss in flamebait for no other reason than to stir up the shit. A pleasant change from Usenet, which can get very tiresome that way very quickly... - Neil K. - -- Neil K. Guy * neilg@sfu.ca * nkg@helix.net 49N 16' 123W 7' * Vancouver, BC, Canada ------------------------------ From: jrshepar@indyunix.iupui.edu Date: Wed, 22 Feb 1995 22:12:01 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Milla on Conan On Wed, 22 Feb 1995, Steve Ito wrote: > Hi all... > anyone catch Milla on Conan last night (Tues 21)? I think she must have > been a last-minute fill-in because I don't remember seeing her name on the > late show guest lists. > Anyway, she did a song that I didn't recognize... anyone know what it was? > Also, I don't think I recognized a couple of the guys in her band. However, > when I saw her in Toronto, and then even when she was on Conan the first > time, I don't think I spent a heck of a long time looking at the *guys* in > the band. (Sorry guys :-) ). I did recognize the one guy (I think his > name was Chris) but that was it. > > But between then (August) and now, I think she has really polished up her > act. She seemed a lot more natural now, her gestures seemed less staged > than before. > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > Steve Ito, R.A. | "Life is pain, Highness. Anyone who says > Psychology Dept. | differently is selling something." > Queen's University | -- The Dread Pirate Roberts > Kingston, ON, Can. | My VCR kicked off at the exact moment the song ended. It's always a more entertaining show when we don't have to watch Conan interview the guests... remember last time Milla was on Conan, and what a jerk Conan was? Of course, I was equally disappointed with the childish way in which Milla handled herself on that show. Yeah, Milla _has_ polished up her show a bit. It feels a lot more professional, more mature. Before, it was almost like... how do I say it without being demeaning to the artist? like a young girl pretending to be a musician, and way overdoing it. Intense, yes, delightfully raw, but at times unnerving (to me anyway). Amazing how much she seems to have grown up. :-) Sarah McLachlan appeared on Conan last summer, and it was also entertaining. No, Conan didn't want to talk about Sarah's music, the tour, the album, her life, etc. He wanted to ask her if she'd consider going around nude in hot weather. His hands disappeared and the desk began to move on its own for the rest of the show. Sarah, meanwhile, maintains her calm, lets him ramble on, probably knowing full well he would run out of time before the conversation got any worse. At least Jay Leno, the unfunny dweeb that he is, is not a pervert. Later. :-) - -John [squid] [signature abducted and given mind control implants by Streibs] ------------------------------ From: WretchAwry Date: Wed, 22 Feb 95 22:22:29 EST Subject: RE: ecto-digest V2 #29 Barbara writes: > I don't know about this. Let's say I watch ER, but don't interact with it. > I belong to the group of people that watches ER. And if the show comes up > the next day, I can discuss it with the other "anonymous watchers" or "group > that also watched". Even though at the time we all watched, we were all > anonymous and no one knew who else was watching. Hey! I watch ER, so we're part of that same group too :-) (and Chicago Hope, which is good also) > Vickie wrote: > > *I* think of lurkers as Ectophiles, and part of the group! > >Always have, always will. > > Thanks Vickie, and everyone else who posted similar ideas. You're welcome! Vickie ------------------------------ From: Christopher Boek Date: Thu, 23 Feb 1995 14:32:33 +1100 (EST) Subject: Re: Kind Ectophiles, please respond! > On Sat, 18 Feb 1995 23:12:52 Steve VanDevender wrote: (Re: groups) > > Obviously we are not "face to face" in the literal meaning of the words, > but why would that have any bearing as to if we are a group or not? What > does looking at someones face add to the group, or for that matter what > does having someone look at you take away from your involvement with the > group. > This 'Face to Face' thing sounds a little unnecessary to the definition. My Australian Pocket Oxford Dictionary defines group as: "number of persons or things near together or belonging or classed together" I'd say we belong, or could be 'classed' together, and hence satisfy the definition. One thing we have to remember is that a dictionary is not the be all and end all though - it is simply an attempt to represent the definitions that we all know - if our usage of a word changes, we are not wrong - the dictionary is simply out of date. I _feel_ part of a group on this list, and that is the important thing. Chris. - -- | ||| ||| | ||| ||| ||| | ||| ||| Christopher Boek - c.boek@ee.mu.oz.au | ||| ||| | ||| ||| ||| | ||| Dept Elec Eng Univ of Melbourne Australia | | | | | | | | | | Tel:(+613)- 344 7966(BH) 853 4296(AH) |___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|"I've got no room for a quote" CB 1994. ------------------------------ From: WretchAwry Date: Wed, 22 Feb 95 22:32:57 EST Subject: Happy in B-side! This is a forward from a soon-to-be Ectophile. I just bought the Dec/Jan B-side a few days ago, which has nice articles about Victoria (even though she's not mentioned on the cover), Single Gun Theory, Diamanda Galas, The Cranberries, and possibly (probably) other cool things I haven't gotten to yet. It's about time B-side paid attention to Happy! Yay! Vickie --------------- From: CLBECKWITH@aol.com Date: Wed, 22 Feb 1995 19:34:31 -0500 To: vickie@pilot.njin.net Subject: Re: ecto/happy rhodes faq Thanks a lot for the Happy faq. It's great to know there's a new address for the mailing list. I tried subscribing using the old one listed in the January KB faq, but no go. I certainly hope the archives are up and operating again soon. For a while I wondered why I wasn't connecting! :( BTW (and I'm probably way behind the curve on this one) Building the Colossus is given an amazingly positive review in the Jan/Feb '95 B-Side (Siouxsie Sioux on the cover.) I discovered this while I was at Newbury Comics in Salem, NH last week. "Welcome to Circuit City, where Happy is state of the art!" Surprise of surprises, BTC is actually on sale at Circuit City!!! The price point is $12.95 (which is their normal domestic single CD price), and though she doesn't have her own artist card, two copies were right in the heart of the Rs at the Salem, NH location. I'm gonna ask them to consider putting it on their CD listening station. I wonder if corporate in Virginia determines these things. Strawberries' I-Station (available in many, but not all, locations) has been a godsend in helping "complete the sale" of unfamiliar artists who have been positively reviewed in trade and consumer publications but not widely heard. The system has its shortcomings (the samplings are generally limited to 20-second soundbites of five pre-selected tracks of each CD) but gives much broader coverage than, say, Tower's setup. Now, if only Strawberries would be more competitive in pricing its product! I haven't any Happy titles at several Strawberries in New Hampshire, Massachusetts, and Maine, but I'll be on the lookout. Since I'm not on the mailing list yet, feel free to report this to the group. And thanks again for your wonderful faq and kind words. :-) - --Chris B. ------------------------------ From: THE OLIVE-LOAF VIGILANTE Date: Wed, 22 Feb 1995 22:47:29 -0500 (EST) Subject: Happy on WFUV Hi! So Rita Houston of WFUV, who does the midday section of City Folk every day and will be hosting this Friday's Bottom Line show, reads a.m.e. Cool. Any- body from over there know her e-dress, so I can drop her a line? Happy stopped by the WFUV studios last week sometime and recorded an interview with Four Corners host Ben Soper, which was aired last evening and I guess is slated for rebroadcast tomorrow (Thursday) morning at 9. They usually don't do that, but Darren the morning guy worships Happy, so I'd wager he's somehow behind the scheduling. :) It's a great interview -- no revelations (except the tape flipped right when she was answering the question of whether or not she'll have the whole band with her on Friday night, so I still have no clue), but a lot of music! We heard album versions of "Collective Heart", "Building The Colossus", and "Feed The Fire", and Happy played "Ashes To Ashes", "Hold Me", and "Look For The Child" live. LFTC blew Ben away, as it did me -- this version was simply incredible. Happy also made Ben play "You And I" by Yes during the bit when they were talking about her influences. Yes, we taped it. Yes, we'll be getting it off to the Dubbing Project as soon as we can. :) Oh -- ecto got a mention during the interview! At the very end Ben read the old subscription address from the _BTC_ liner notes "to get more information about Happy and her music", but nothing more was said. Still, it was a mention -- I wonder if anybody bothered to write it down? Meredith, who cannot WAIT until Friday night and is still boggled at the concept of Happy getting airplay and publicity in New York City meth@delphi.com ------------------------------ End of ecto-digest V2 #30 ************************* ======================================================================== Please send any questions or comments about the list to ecto-owner@nsmx.rutgers.edu