Errors-To: owner-ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu Reply-To: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu From: owner-ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu To: owner-ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu Bcc: ecto-digest@ns1.rutgers.edu Subject: ecto #1220 ecto, Number 1220 Thursday, 1 September 1994 Today's Topics: *-----------------* Re: Los Angeles Happy fans?? BtC I still don't have it Lots'o Nouvelle Musique Lifebeat at -=<10pm>=- not 9 Merry day of birth! Upcoming musical guests on late night talk shows Hmmmm... Re: ecto #1219 another intro Re: Intro, ectofest, & other sundry things Not so fuzzy Smoe, Slarry, Scurly.... mmmmm, Hamms :-) BtC Selling Out? ======================================================================== Date: Thu, 1 Sep 1994 13:07:44 -0500 (CDT) From: Camber the Heretic Subject: Re: Los Angeles Happy fans?? On Thu, 1 Sep 1994, WretchAwry wrote: > > Is there anywhere out there where Happy can be found in stores? > Any of the Towers? Any store at all? Santa Monica area preferably, > but this person who's desperately looking for Happy is willing to > travel afar. I'm not just talking about BTC. *Any* store that > carries *any* Happy albums is wanted. > > THANKS! > > Vickie > I don't know how much of a help this will be, but just in case anyone's compiling an exhaustive list o' these stores, the Sound Warehouse (or blockbuster music I never know which to say) in Houston, specifically the one at shepard and 59 has happy in stock. I've seen Rhodes II, rearmament, ecto, equipose and warpaint. I haven't been back but they probably also have BtC by now. like I say, hope it helps. :) judson ======================================================================== From: Kannisto Juha Subject: BtC Date: Thu, 1 Sep 1994 21:29:41 +0300 (EET DST) Hei all :) I thought I'd change from lurker mode to the active one for a second just to say my piece about BtC :) (And to make everyone who doesn't have it yet a bit jealous). It took a couple of days to get acquainted with it, I must admit, but now I can say I really enjoy it. Especially 'Omar', 'Collective Heart', and 'Down, Down'. As a sidenote: Are there any other Pixies fans here apart from myself? I really got to love them this summer :) I even followed up all the post-Pixies tracks and got myself all the Frank Black + Breeders discs. Btw. I must give full credit to AG for fast service. It took only 11 days for an envelope with the order to leave my hands and the two discs I ordered to arrive! Amazing! Ordinarily it would take around 7+ days for a letter to go in one direction from here to the U.S. or vice versa... The other one is Rhodes I, her best one of all time. It's a disc full of classics (with the possible exclusion of the bonus tracks, I really didn't get into them yet). OK, that's all there was to say, I think :) Hmmm, I could moan a little before I go: They seem to have broken the disc where my home directory on ampeeri.ee.tut.fi is. That's where all the mailing list mail arrives :( Very nice indeed. I still get to read the mail from /usr/spool/mail but it's a bit less convenient to say the least. Anyway, I guess it's not very interesting business for the lot of you :) And now, time to sleep. Be well, all! T: Juha -- Juha Kannisto X Home: +358-31-560941 X Univ: Savikukonkatu 21 X Work: +358-31-2856720 X jk101920@cs.tut.fi 33530 Tampere X KANNISTO@nmptre.nmp.nokia.com X jk101920@ee.tut.fi Finland X KANNISTO@mobira.nmp.nokia.com X jk101920@cc.tut.fi ======================================================================== Date: Thu, 1 Sep 94 14:31:14 EDT From: jessica Subject: I still don't have it *sigh*. I still do not have BtC. This is very frustratin!!!!!! I love the new Over the Rhine album. I had heard "happy with myself?" on the radio, and of course did NOT recognize the band - and I didn't get to hear who it was, but I really wanted to know!! So i was very happy and surprised to hear that song as the first track of "eve". The second song "within without" is definitely my favorite. Someone mentioned Shawn Colvin recently: I like both of her regular albums - Fat City (the second one) took a little to sink in but once it did, I've liked it a lot. "Cover Girl" i've only listened to once, but I'd say only about half of it really caught my ear. Several of the songs are recorded live, and I suspect that live they are wonderful, but recorded, and i do mean simply recorded live, they somehow lose something .. But it's only one listen. I heard Sinead's new single on the radio yesterday (fire in babylon). I liked it a LOT, and am very much looking forward to the whole album. I'm listening a lot to "His Name is Alive", "This Mortal Coil", "Dead Can Dance" and "Nine Inch Nails" lately. And of course, I always listen to a lot of Sarah. Oh - Don't know if this was ever mentioned or not - a recent "rock video monthly" included Jane's "Temple" video!!! I was VERY happy!! and watched it repeatedly, very loud, just as she would have wanted me too. Thoe Rock Video Monthlys never fail to surprise me and keep my happy to be getting them. Not much else is up, musically. (except I'm going to see Tori in concert tonight!! Yay!! (And thanks to sarah (snpf) :) :) jessica || falafel, || It is this || Don't try to tell me there's no reason for || || falafel, || that brings || any moment in time, every memory of mine. || || falafel, || us together. || Those years are lines of color on my face, || ||BaBaGanough|| --Kate || the past is warpaint. --Happy Rhodes || ======================================================================== Date: 01 Sep 94 14:50:39 EDT From: Mike Mendelson Subject: Lots'o Nouvelle Musique Well, I have listened to all these things now, at least cursorily, and here are my impressions and ratings on a 5 star scale: 1. Kristin Hersh - Strings - some string-versions off H&M a plus some other stuff. Excellent, esp. the string stuff. -- 5* 2. Black-eyed Susans -- All Souls Alive -- a loud and rather undistinguished melee of hard rockers -- 2* 3. Bruce Cockburn -- Dart to the Heart - his latest -- not all that impressive on first listen and I don't have time to listen twice :-) -- 1* 4. Oleta Adams -- Evolution - she has a good voice and I loved her work with TfF but unfortunately this music is just too unoriginal and unexciting -- 1* 5. Tangerine Dream -- Turn of the Tides -- quite good, but then I like TD -- 4* 6. A Canadian Alternative '92 -- sampler with tons of stuff (19 tracks) A mixed bag -- 3* 7. Vince Bell -- Phoenix - this is country -- not my thing, really -- 1* 8. Cowboy Junkies -- Essential Junk -- an anthology of 12 songs taken from 5 albums; no new material here -- 4* 9. Sara Hickman -- Necessary Angels -- quite nice light new folk -- 4* 10. Freedy Johnston -- This Perfect World -- straight ahead pop, with hooks and decent lyrics. certainly worth a listen -- 4* 11. DGC -- rarities #1 -- a sampler of lots of "alternative" bands -- Counting Crows track is pretty good; rest is OK except for Sonic vomit, couple others -- 3* 12. Blood Oranges -- The Crying Tree -- electrified folk is a good description -- like boiled in lead but straight "American" rather than irish or celtic; hickish if anything; not nearly as good as spirit of the west -- shades of harder csny, like woodstock or ohio, on some songs -- some zippy stuff, some mellower; overall quite fun -- 4* 13. Waterlillies -- Tempted -- somewhere between Pet Shop Boys and Utah Saints with overprocessed, slightly weakish Over the Rhine-like vocalist and fairly clicheed lyrics 3* 14. 13 Engines -- Perpetual Motion Machine -- hard driving rock -- no real standouts -- 3* 15. Julia Forham -- Falling Forward -- her latest -- sounds almost inspirational -- slight shades of EBTG -- well-written and conceived -- if all muzak was this good it wouldn't be muzak -- 4* 16. Jam Nation -- a Real World thing -- this is a conglomerate of all kinds of people; of note: Jane Siberry does lead vocals on one track ("Harmonix") -- overall quite hoppin', but in a mostly understated way -- 4* 17. The Album Network -- Adult Rock -- a mixed assortment but no real standouts -- 2.5* 18. Stone Temple Pilots -- 12 Gracious Melodies -- well, I've heard them on the radio, I guess, but I wouldn't buy this or see them -- 1* 19. Kashtin -- Innu -- supposed to be good but imo clicheed and difficult to listen to; the songs may have meaning but the music is extremely weak -- 0* 20. In Search of Angels -- Soundtrack of PBS Special -- very nice background music for sleeping etc. -- 4* 21. Eddi Reader -- S/T -- on par with her other stuff -- 5* 22. Toni Childs -- Words and Music -- selections from Woman's Boat with Toni's commentary -- I haven't listened to Woman's Boat yet so I'm gonna wait before I listen to this 23. Hootie and the Blowfish -- Cracked Rear View -- nothing original here but somewhat entertaining and marginally listenable -- 3* ADDITIONS 24. Angelfish -- Angelfish -- I don't know how I missed this one when I wrote the original email. At first I wanted to say Sam Phillips, because the very start of the first song sounds just like the beginning of I Need Love. Now I want to say Concrete Blonde-ish, which I think is a good comparison. Actually, I would place them somewhere in between CB and Tribe. Produced by Tina Weymouth, Talking Heads bassist (but this sounds nothing like TH) -- 5* 25. Corrina, Corrina -- movie soundtrack -- features traditional jazz, some more soul-oriented songs -- Louis Armstrong, Billie Holliday, Oscar Peterson, Oleta Adams, etc. Very good for what it is -- what's the movie about? -- 4* -mjm ======================================================================== Date: Thu, 1 Sep 1994 12:56:37 -0700 From: "Alex Gibbs" Subject: Lifebeat at -=<10pm>=- not 9 [Crossposted to ecto, fte, rfn.] The Lifebeat show is on tonight (Thurs) at -=<10pm ET>=-, NOT 9pm. The earlier VH1 ads were misleading because they didn't mention that at 9pm is a repeat of a VH1 special about AIDS & the music industry, *then* the Lifebeat show at 10pm. As I mentioned, it has previously started 2-3 minutes early, so plan on 9:55pm to be safe, and it is 95 minutes long. Sorry to take up the bandwidth. /-\ |_ |= >< Alex R. Gibbs arg@kilimanjaro.opt-sci.arizona.edu ======================================================================== From: iago@merle.acns.nwu.edu Subject: Merry day of birth! Date: Thu, 1 Sep 94 14:48:53 CDT Just to be different... But the message is the same... Happy Birthday, Meredith! ==> Valerie ======================================================================== Date: Thu, 1 Sep 1994 16:10:53 -0400 (EDT) From: S Trowbridge Subject: Upcoming musical guests on late night talk shows LATE SHOW WITH DAVID LETTERMAN, 11:35 P.M. ET, CBS 9/1 Waylon Jennings 9/2 Hootie and the Blowfish 9/8 Anita Baker 9/13 Roger Daltrey 9/14 Nanci Griffith THE TONIGHT SHOW, 11:35 P.M. ET, NBC 9/1 Richard Marx (rerun) 9/2 Texas (rerun) 9/6 Randy Travis 9/7 Sarah McLachlan 9/8 Joe Cocker 9/12 Babyface 9/14 Spin Doctors LATE NIGHT WITH CONAN O'BRIEN, 12:35 A.M. ET, NBC 9/1 Jimmy Webb (rerun) 9/2 Sarah McLachlan (rerun) 9/6 Marianne Faithfull 9/7 Jonathan Richman 9/9 Warren G. LATER WITH GREG KINNEAR, 1:35 A.M. ET, NBC 9/7 Sandra Bernhard *** This list is distributed to subscribers of the radio-concerts list and ecto, a mailing list devoted to discussion of alternative female artists such as Happy Rhodes, Tori Amos, Sarah McLachlan and Kate Bush. *** People who receive ecto in digest form may subscribe to the ectotv mailing list and receive these bulletins immediately -- including late- breaking updates, if we get 'em! Send mail to trow@access.digex.net. --posted by Sue Trowbridge //////////////////////////trow@access.digex.net\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ Many of the young rock and roll groups of the day, as you know, frighten me. ///////////////////////////--David Letterman\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ ======================================================================== From: kmorrey@casbah.acns.nwu.edu Subject: Hmmmm... Date: Thu, 1 Sep 1994 15:00:01 -0500 (CDT) A quick question - would I have gotten unsubscribed if my account was unreachable for several days, perhaps an automatic response to too many bounce messages? I posted something, and someone replied, and I haven't seen the message myself. I'm supposed to be on the bounce list. Anyone know how this works???? Kath ======================================================================== Date: Thu, 1 Sep 94 15:19:18 CDT From: bresloff@oxygen.aps1.anl.gov (Cynthia Bresloff) Subject: Re: ecto #1219 Help, I tried to do this the 'proper' way, but it did not work. PLEASE remove me from the mailing list, thank you!!! ======================================================================== From: TashaYor@aol.com Date: Thu, 01 Sep 94 17:00:00 EDT Subject: another intro hi all!! i'm knew to the list and am loving what i have read thus far. i just got out of law school so i feel like i'm pretty behind in the music i love most. obviously high on everyone's list here is tori, sarah, and milla. personally i have really been diggin' the latest form US3. is that just too old to comment on? as a 30 something african-american i like to pretend, in front of others, that i don't listen to rap. however, when it comes to this album, i won't even try to put up that front. this album totally moves me. by combining some very hip samples from 50's bebop and progressive jazz, with lucid and intelligent lyrics, this album makes me groove!!! another important plus, in my book anyway, is that it has avoided for the most part the assault of misogynistic, homophobic and violent lyrics so typical of popular rap. undoubtedly, to rap purists, US3 will be dogged just like PM Dawn was for the very things i like about them, not being "straight up rough" enough. i don't care. i love them anyway. thanks. this is a cool list!!!! tasha btw: hey shana, tori *is* enigmatic :D ======================================================================== Date: Thu, 1 Sep 1994 14:08:18 -0700 (PDT) From: SUZANNE S WEISS Subject: Re: Intro, ectofest, & other sundry things greetings julie!!! glad ya made the jump!! = ) welcome to ecto. = ) *HUGS* see ya on IRC. = ) peace, suzanne ======================================================================== Date: Thu, 1 Sep 1994 14:19:09 -0700 (PDT) From: David Dixon Subject: Not so fuzzy Hi folks, Thanks to the graciousness of Angelos, I've been able to listen to BtC several times, and, well, hate to inject some non-fuzziness here, but I don't like it very much. Almost none of the songs work for me (although "Just Like Tivoli" has some nice moments). Happy should lose the hip-hop rhythms; they just *don't* work. This is a major disappointment for me, because I know she's capable of much better music and hook-ier melodies. I've probably listened to it eight or nine times by now, hoping that it'll grow on me, and so far it just isn't doing a thing. Sorry, D^2 ======================================================================== Date: Thu, 1 Sep 1994 17:02:33 CDT From: Subject: Smoe, Slarry, Scurly.... mmmmm, Hamms :-) My tangential Recovered Memory for today: at the time of my early childhood, an independent station in Chicago broadcast Three Stooges shorts in the after- noons, but sometimes it broadcast Cubs games instead, for which Hamms beer-- one of whose ad campaigns was as per the above--was one of the sponsors. There apparently has been a Harmonic Convergence of sorts between the posts on the enigma of Today's Buzzword, and the subject line of Suzanne's post of encomium to Neil K. for the Cascadian ectobacchanal. Ectosynchronicity manifests itself in the damndest of ways, _nicht wahr_? :-) WRT the dilemma of getting hard-to-get recordings when you live in a place where good recordings are hard to get: in addition to the obvious expedient of direct mail orders for Happy's albums (Aural Gratification, Box 380, Bearsville NY 12409-0380), a couple of 800 numbers that might be kept in mind are the Public Radio Music Source (1-800-75-MUSIC), which professes to have everything, and Rose Records in Chicago (1-800-955-ROSE), which makes the less grandiose claim of being good for hard-to-get stuff. At this moment, _All Things Considered_ is interviewing Christine Lavin on the making of the double CD of her Martha's Vineyard songwriters' festival. Merry day of birth, needless to say, to Meredith, to whom also thanks for the advice on Windows. The equivalent, albeit a day late, to Marcel. On the occasion of Bubba/Julie's branching out from IRC to this less ephemeral corner of the ecto world, let me simply quote the words oft-repeated by Titus Moody (Parker Fennelly) on _Allen's Alley_: "Howdy Bub." :-) Someone's post yesterday wondering whether Happy was a fan of _Colossus: The Forbin Project_ was the first I've heard of that film in years. I saw it on TV one time, and all I remember is that the villain was a computer. Given the electronic nature of much of her fan population, somehow I doubt that her latest album title reflects that particular attitude. Mitch ----------------------------------- "Oh, it's a long, long road/From May To December/But the days grow short/ When you reach September" --Kurt Weill, "September Song" ======================================================================== Date: Thu, 01 Sep 1994 18:51:16 -0400 (EDT) From: THE OLIVE-LOAF VIGILANTE Subject: BtC Selling Out? Hi! I made the trek into New Haven to see if the downtown Sam Goody had either Sarah's new single, Laurie Anderson's new album, or BtC. No clue about the Sarah single, "Laurie who?", and "Oh yeah, Happy Rhodes! We got two in, but they sold out instantly. We tried to put in another order, but the distributor we get her stuff from is already sold out of the album and isn't sure when they'll be able to get more in. I guess they're selling a lot more than they planned!" After this enthusiastic response (I had gotten the first syllable of "Building" out when he finished my sentence for me), I decided not to whup him soundly upside the head for not knowing who Laurie Anderson is. :) Thanks for the birthday wishes, all!! :) Meredith meth@delphi.com smoe (if you don't know, you don't need to) ======================================================================== The ecto archives are on hardees.rutgers.edu in ~ftp/pub/hr. There is an INDEX file explaining what is where. Feel free to send me things you'd like to have added. -- jessica (jessica@ns1.rutgers.edu)