Errors-To: ecto-owner@ns1.rutgers.edu Reply-To: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu Sender: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu From: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu To: ecto-request@ns1.rutgers.edu Bcc: ecto-digest-outbound@ns1.rutgers.edu Subject: ecto #759 ecto, Number 759 Friday, 17 September 1993 Today's Topics: *-----------------* The Fugitive Re: A few ramblings Heidi Berry and Jane Siberry DCD ha! snared another one! The moral of the story... RhodeSongs......!! :) Join us on Irc so they ate the music... Re: Kitten parenthood did someone mention bunnies? Re: Peace Together Happy Who???? Thanks guys ======================================================================== Date: 17 Sep 1993 00:23:47 -0400 (EDT) From: "Help, help, I'm being repressed!" Subject: The Fugitive I just want to reassure you, Anthony, you are *not* the last person on ecto to see 'The Fugitive'. ;) Maura ======================================================================== Date: Fri, 17 Sep 93 1:12:13 EDT From: WretchAwry Subject: Re: A few ramblings Philip, who's upside down, but coherent nontheless, says: > Vickie Vickiates on the WO(MM)MAD festival... > > Take an umbrella! :-) There was a torrential downpour in Chicago (lots > > and lots and *LOTS* of spectacular lightning!) > > Looks like your musings on the lack of good lightning storms a while > back paid off!! Oh yeah! It was *great*! I guess I really haven't communicated what a truly wonderful day it was. Chris and I kept looking at each other and giggling like kids, and hugging each other, and kissing...we were so *HAPPY*!! We were at *WOMAD*!! WOMAD, *WOW*!! I can't even *begin* to tell you how happy I was, all day long. I was at *WOMAD*-Yay! I saw Sheila Chandra perform, *LIVE*-Yay! I met Sheila Chandra, I *INTERVIEWED* Sheila Chandra-Yay!!!!! I saw the Drummers of Burundi, *LIVE*-Yay!! (I'd been fans of theirs even before the first WOMAD because they did some drumming for one of my favorite films, "Fitzcarraldo."--if you've seen the film and remember the scene where the boat is heading down the river toward where it will be hauled overland, and drumming starts...scary because no one on the boat knows if they're about to be attacked and in answer, Fitz, Brian Sweeny Fitzgerald as played by Klaus Kinski, gets out his wind-up phonograph and plays Caruso...that drumming is by the Drummers of Burundi and the drumming in the movie is the same piece that's on the original WOMAD album, and I got to hear/see them do it live--Yay!) I was having such a great time! I saw a lot of friends, some from Kansas City who had come up specifically for WOMAD, such as Tim, our very best friend in Kansas City. I saw a lot of people I hadn't seen for ages, I met a lot of new people, I hugged a lot of people, I smiled at strangers and danced in a conga line of African drummers and masquerade participants and festivalgoers. Just about then it started to rain and I didn't care one bit! As the evening wore on it got wetter and windier and colder and I still didn't care! I had a sweater, I had an umbrella, the lightning was truly spectacular, I was at *WOMAD* and I was going to see *Peter Gabriel*-Yay!! And I did! And Sinead was with him! And the band was great! And the audience was warm and enthusiastic! And the Drummers of Burundi ended the show! And I was *SO* happy! *YAY*!! To top off a nearly perfect evening, Charley and I ran into Drew Miller from Boiled In Lead. We had gone to the hospitality suite (we had, nyah nyah :-), press passes which allowed us in) to see if there were any press conferences going on (silly silly us, we had those press passes all day long and it never occured to us that we could have gotten into any press conferences that might have happened during the day. We never thought to check to see if any were going on. We're new at this, ok?) and we met him as we were leaving. Btw, no press conferences after the show. How'd we get the press passes? Well...to backtrack...the Mary Coughlan interview just fell in my lap. I just happened to mention my radio show to the tour manager and he asked me if I wanted to interview Mary. I was scared, but Charley assured me that he would help me, and he did. He said he was a free-lance writer and that he wanted to combine my taped interview with his own questions and write up a piece on Mary. That allowed him to sit in on the interview and ask questions too. It took a lot of pressure off me to keep the interview going and it all went much better than I had thought it would. My biggest problems with interviewing Happy, Betsy Martin and Karen Peris had to do with the fact that I was nervous as hell, and the interviews were being conducted live on the air, so I had too much pressure on me, because I had to "do it right" and "do it well" because people were listening *as it was happening*. It was terrible, and I came off sounding like a silly dip (though Happy, Betsy and Karen were articulate and interesting) and so I swore off interviews. Since, thanks to Charley, the Mary interview had gone so well, I felt much better about the whole thing. When Charley said that he would try to set up an interview with Sheila Chandra, I didn't even hesitate, and said "you bet!" For 4 days straight he called and talked to this woman in New York who said that she would keep trying to get hold of Steve Coe, who worked with Sheila. She never did, so by the day before the show we had given up hope of being able to interview Sheila. Just in case though, I brought my recording equipment, in hopes of at least getting a show ID. After Sheila's set, I started to walk away, but Charley went over to the side of the stage and asked to see Steve Coe. Steve came out and Charley explained about trying to set up an interveiw and that wires seemed to be crossed concerning Steve getting that message. He was so nice and gave orders for us to talk to the radio promotion person, a woman named Deb. We waited while Deb checked Sheila's schedule and told us that the only time we could be fit in was 5pm. We looked at each other and said SURE!! She gave us the press passes then. (Btw, Steve Coe is big, burly, gentle bear of a guy and gave me a big hug after I thanked him for all the wonderful music he's written for Sheila. I also had him sign the Monsoon CD "Third Eye" and he seemed so pleased and suprised that anyone would ask him for his autograph.) Because of the Sheila interview, Charley and I missed most of the Drummers of Burundi :-( but I was able to see nearly half their set. At the designated time Charley and I went around to the back of the stage to wait for Deb. She led us through various corridors and rooms (it was dizzying, I kept looking around and into the rooms we passed with open doors, hoping to see Peter or Sinead. No such luck) and we finally ended up at the media information room. There were PCs and laptops and telephones and charts and chairs and people all over the place. We staked out a corner and started setting up the equipment. I was hoping that we'd get to go into a quiet room but no, the interview had to be done there so unfortunately there are people talking in the background while Sheila's talking, but it's not too bad. Sheila came in wearing a traditional Indian sari, looking absolutely beautiful. She has the most beautiful speaking voice which isn't suprising since her singing voice is so gorgeous. We shook hands and Charley and I introduced ourselves and told her where were were from (I mean, about my radio shows). I had a bit of a panic when the tape kept sticking in the tape player and scrunching up, then I'd take the tape out and wind it back into the shell. It happened a few times and Sheila was waiting patiently for me to get it together. I fast forwarded the tape to get away from the scrunched part and tried again. It finally started working right and I asked Sheila what she had for lunch, so I could set the levels. Finally the interview started. Charley and I both asked questions so again it was a good collaboration, and not so much pressure on me. I could have sat and talked to her all day long, she was so interesting, but too soon, Deb came in and we had to finish up so Sheila could go do a phone interview. I got some show IDs, gave her the CDs of Equipoise and Warpaint, which she seemed very pleased to accept, gave her a hug, took a photo and we were out of there. We met Steve Coe in the hallway and he asked us for our addresses so he could keep us informed of what's going on with Sheila. We found our way out of the maze of hallways and into the beautiful daylight. Charley later went back and gave her his CD of Ingrid Karklins, which he had in his backpack. (We really hope she enjoys it, because it was his autographed copy. We also really hope that Ingrid comes back to Chicago soon so he can get another CD autographed.) If we ever get these things transcribed (Mary and Sheila) I'll post them to Ecto. (I know I don't have to add ..."if it's ok" :-)) I can't promise anything (people know by now how flaky I am these days) but perhaps sometime they'll make it to Doug's taping service. I have to edit them down first. With both Mary and Sheila I held the microphone up to them and kept it there, so our questions are fairly inaudible, and what you can hear of us I'll cut out, and mix their talking with their music. When I get it together... it was all so wonderful, so so wonderful... > > The good thing about it was that it drove > > away all the casual festivalgoers and the few hundred who were left > > were *die-hard* Gabriel fans, so the energy and outpouring of love > > and enthusiasm for Peter and Sinead and the band was incredible! > > 'Silver lining' ? :) :-) you bet! > > The only problem I had with the Festival itself is that it really should > > have been called WOMMMAD, the World Of Mostly Male Music, Arts and Dance. > > Does 'Mostly Male' apply to the dance as well ?? (I love dancing) There was one female dancer, a woman from Egypt. The rest were all men. > (That reminds me, has the film "Strictly Ballroom" made the rounds > overseas (ie. away from Australasia) yet?) Yep, I saw it and liked it. Lots of fun! I especially liked seeing so many of the actors and actresses from one of my favorite films, _Bliss_. It's been playing in Chicago for months, and it's still here. > Alex Gibbers... (sorry:) > > > I'm not sure I'd want to say that on Gaffa though! /get fire hose > > It's sort of confusing at times what to say here and what to put in gaffa. > > I know the feeling! (Ecto is much friendlier IMHO -- may you all be > mercilessly assaulted by warm fuzzy things! :-) :-) Help! It's raining catepillars! (The little fuzzy things, not the heavy machinary-that would be on gaffa.) > I looked for a Heidi Berry album the other day, but I couldn't find one. > I'll ask to hear some of the new Jane Siberry CD I think... Oh yeah! You're ingratiating yourself quite well :-) AnthonyH--get this man a Happy sampler! (please? pretty please?) > oh well... I'll stop rambling now... We *like* rambling! Ecto wouldn't be Ecto without lots of interesting rambling! Vickie ps, I like your .sig too!! > .________________________________________. ._______. > | __ _ ___ _ __ __ |\________/| | > | / / | / \ | \ | | | | / | _ _ | _O_ | > | \_ | | | | |__/ |__| | | \_ | / \/ \ | |/ | > | / | | | | | | | | | / | \ / | |\ | > | \__ \_ | \_/ | | | | |__ \__ | \ / | T W W | > |________________________________________| \/ |_______| > \ Philip Sainty: psainty@comp.vuw.ac.nz \________/ / > `-------------------------------------------------------' > "This is where I want to be > This is what I need" --KT ======================================================================== Date: Fri, 17 Sep 93 11:41:31 CET From: Ilka Heber Subject: Heidi Berry and Jane Siberry Hi folks, thanks a lot, Anthony, for asking Jane about German tour dates. Hey, you Germans, get out there and buy her album so that they send her on a tour!!! I'm soooo disappointed!!! = ( Furthermore, also for Anthony, you weren't deeply moved by Heidi's Song "Washington Square" on "Love"??? I think that must be one of the most beauti- ful songs ever recorded!!!! Actually, I got some information on her from her German record company. She is going on a miniture little tour as special guest of "Red House Painters" (who?????). The dates, for those who care, are as follows: November 1, Hamburg - Logo November 2, Cologne - Underground November 4, Berlin - Loft Well, I have to give that one a miss, too, as it's all just too far away to go for a special guest. They probably only let her be on stage for half an hour... I'm not very lucky with concerts this year..... = ( That's all for today, Ilka = ) P.S.: Sandra is not Italian, she's German! ======================================================================== Date: Fri, 17 Sep 93 11:47:47 CET From: Ilka Heber Subject: DCD ...sorry, but while I'm at it here are the dates for Dead Can Dance in Germany: Oct. 8, Ludwigsburg - Forum am Schlosspark Oct. 9, Cologne - Philharmonie Oct. 10, Berlin - HdK Oct. 12, Hamburg - Musikhalle The phone number for Ticket orders is 089-23 19 190 (Mama Concerts) Byeeeeeeeeeeee, Ilka = ) ======================================================================== Subject: Re: Heidi Berry and Jane Siberry Date: Fri, 17 Sep 93 07:37:05 -0400 From: jeffy@syrinx.umd.edu Ilka writes: >Actually, I got some information on her from her German record company. She >is going on a miniture little tour as special guest of "Red House Painters" >(who?????). The dates, for those who care, are as follows: Funny you should say that. I don't have the *slightest* idea who Red House Painters are... *but* whenever I'm looking for Happy's stuff I end up searching through the "various R" category. The album that always sticks in my mind when I do so is the RHP album because it's got a picture of a roller coaster on it and I'm a coaster fiend (as Mike can attest...;-) It always makes me curious to hear the band. Anybody know anything about 'em? Jeff ------- End of Forwarded Message ======================================================================== Subject: ha! snared another one! Date: Fri, 17 Sep 93 07:59:48 -0400 From: jeffy@syrinx.umd.edu Maybe two months ago, I sent a Happy sampler to a friend in California. Yesterday, she remarked that her husband had said, "If you're going to listen to that tape so much, you ought to get some of her albums." My friend searched out some Happy discs...and is now contemplating buying her first CD player. ;-) Jeff (who freaked her out by including stuff from HR5, attributing it to RhodeSongs, telling her that RhodeSongs wouldn't be available 'til the end of August, and sending her the tape in late July) |Jeffrey C. Burka | "When I look in the mirror, I see a little clearer/ | |SAFH Lite [tm] | I am what I am and you are you too./ Do you like | |jeffy@syrinx.umd.edu | what you see? Do you like yourself?" --N. Cherry | ======================================================================== Date: 17 Sep 1993 08:05:14 -0400 From: pas@math.ams.org (Paula Shanks) Subject: The moral of the story... Thanks for all the responses. You're a swell bunch of subroutines. Now I know that it's all a digital chimera, and when I hear the injunction "BUY! BUY! BUY!" at the record store, I will happily submit with no thought toward the future. The music industry: insidious psychological power. Who'd a thunk it, looking at photos of record biz execs. And seeing who they sign for $millions. But at the urging of my Calvinist husband and some collection-building ectophiles, I may weed through the cabinets looking for castoffs this weekend. The near future may find a list here for your home/office electronic shopping enjoyment. I feel a fool for having already gotten rid of Victoria Williams' "Happy Come Home" long since. How was I to know there'd actually be someone out there in the world who'd like it, after I screamed and yanked it out of the walkman...live and learn, Paula; live and learn. --Pshanks, Unrepentant ======================================================================== Date: Fri, 17 Sep 93 17:50:31 +0200 From: yngveh@stud.cs.uit.no (Yngve Hauge) Subject: RhodeSongs......!! :) Yesterday was a great day for us up here north - The CDs from AG came and 8 RhodeSongs CDs stranded up here + 2 Equipoise and 1 of each of Happy's earlier CDs...... I can just say one word about it - Incredible wonderful (*grin* That was two words :) More later....... -- T ---- Only In Your Eyes Lies Your Soul.............. H | --- ----- ---- --- - -- - - - - - --- E |-- | | | | | | |__| | | |_ | | | | | |--- | | | | | --- --- - - ---- - - - -- - - - --- --- Yngve Hauge (yngveh@stud.cs.uit.no).....University of Tromsoe...Norway ======================================================================== Date: Fri, 17 Sep 93 18:06:11 +0200 From: yngveh@stud.cs.uit.no (Yngve Hauge) Subject: Join us on Irc We are having an Ecto-gathering on Irc - you are all welcome to join us!!!!!!!!! -- T ---- Only In Your Eyes Lies Your Soul.............. H | --- ----- ---- --- - -- - - - - - --- E |-- | | | | | | |__| | | |_ | | | | | |--- | | | | | --- --- - - ---- - - - -- - - - --- --- Yngve Hauge (yngveh@stud.cs.uit.no).....University of Tromsoe...Norway ======================================================================== Date: Fri, 17 Sep 93 12:06:43 EDT From: mojzes@monet.rutgers.edu (brni) Subject: so they ate the music... hi all, heard kate on wdre last night. after "eat the music" finished, the dj said "i always thought she had sensual lips...OH uh, that was kate bush, 'eat the music.' well, why stop there?" humph. my SO said of this song: "so she ate the music, and this was what was left?" sigh. i think i'd like the song if it was 2.5 minutes long, or had a chorus, or a bridge, or something. as it is... :(. but on the other hand, a friend is going to england, and she promised to bring me back "rubberband girl." THAT, from what i could tell over the phone, is a fabulous song. i can't wait! well, til later brni ======================================================================== Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1993 07:31:17 -0700 From: jmg@rocket.com (Jim Gurley) Subject: Re: Kitten parenthood > Mitch > Courtney Neile and I are also pseudo-parents of homeless strays that have adopted us ever since we moved into our current house. A cat of indeterminate age--whome we call Mother--has had two litters since April 92...the first batch (three kittens) we managed to find homes for...but the new litter (2 kittens) seem far too wild for another catch and release...they are around eight weeks old already...so I suppose they'll join the wilds of our neighborhood soon...every day we (well, mostly Neile) leave a saucer of milk, some dry cat fud and water by our backdoor...only wish we could catch Mother... ======================================================================== Date: Fri, 17 Sep 93 12:40:38 EDT From: mojzes@monet.rutgers.edu (brni) Subject: did someone mention bunnies? > >Oh yeah?? Well, i put 11 people in *my* car. > >And it was a volkswagon rabbit. :) > > jessica > heh. i used to have one o' them. you could probably fit 11 people AND all of woj and greg's musical equipment, cd's, and etc., as long as you left the hatch open and used a bungee cord...and maybe dome duct tape... yup, those were the days, when my car and my pet were both bunnies.... :^> brni ======================================================================== Date: Fri, 17 Sep 93 10:05:27 PDT From: "John M. Relph" Subject: Re: Peace Together >"Peace Together" - Various >A charity compilation put together by Island to raise money and awareness for >people affected by the Britain-Ireland conflict. Some gems here, and some >real stinkers. Best of the bunch is Curve and Ian Dury doing a blippy cover >of the latter's song "What A Waste", Liz Fraser of the Cocteau Twins >sublimely singing the title track (and you can understand the words!!!), >while elsewhere we have to endure Pop Will Eat Itself positively destroying >Peter Gabriel's "Games Without Frontiers". I happen to think "Games Without Frontiers" needed destroying, so this breathes some life into Gabriel's old warhorse. One thing I do like about their deconstruction of "GWF" is that PWEI left in a Kate sample! The track I can't stand on this disc is the U2 + Lou Reed track. Live and everything, I mean, why can't they get down and do something in the studio for goddess' sakes? My Bloody Valentine's "We Have All the Time in the World" is very true to Louis Armstrong's original Bond theme. Good stuff, one of the best discs I've listened to in a while, even with all its faults. Another really great one is _Deep Forest_. Even if they hacked and slashed the original tapes, there's still some great music on this disc. Good use of the samples and some unexpected arranging. Later, -- John ======================================================================== From: guetzlaf@gravity.cray.com (Cathy Guetzlaff) Subject: Happy Who???? Date: Fri, 17 Sep 93 12:07:13 CDT As I was perusing a copy of City Pages, the Twin Cities' alternative music rag, I spied an ad from one of our local record stores, Down In The Valley. The ad was for all the CDs they currently had on sale. As I always do, I looked for anything by Happy, and this time I wasn't disappointed! Sorta. There was a small picture of the CD, the AG logo, the title spelled 'Rhodes Songs' (two words...), and Happy's name. Except they didn't call her Happy Rhodes, they called her Happy Daisy. Happy *Daisy*????? People who don't proofread their ads should be executed. I'll be sending a copy to Happy, she'd probably (or maybe not) get a kick out of it. -- Cathy Guetzlaff Cray Research, Inc. guetzlaf@cray.com ======================================================================== Date: Fri, 17 Sep 93 11:35:25 PDT From: dixon@physics.berkeley.edu (David Dixon) Subject: Thanks guys Hi folks, Thanks for all the words of support. This has got to be the most positive newsgroup/ chat-system/ BBS/ etc. I've ever been on. I think I'll try to sell the fishing gear when I get it (which won't be until next year sometime). I'm also getting Nintendo and Sega cartridges of Wheel of Fortune & Jeopardy.. I don't have a Nintendo or a Sega system at home, so I'm going to sell those as well. The Final Jeopardy "question" was: This organization was dissolved in 1954 when its final living member died at the age of 109. I had no idea. I figured it had something to do with the Civil War, so I put down "What is Sons of the Confederacy?" The answer was, "What was the Grand Army of the Republic?" I'd never heard of it before, either. Holly asked about Dead Can Dance & Jean-Michel Jarre. The best album to cut your teeth on DCD is undoubtedly _A Passage in Time_, which is a best-of. The only other album of theirs I have is the new one, _Into the Labyrinth_ (which has some really beautiful songs on it, like "The Carnival is Over"). The rest of their albums are $23 each around here, and I'm just not willing to shell out that kind of money just yet. B By the way, has anyone else noticed that Brendan Perry sounds an awful lot like Neil Diamond? Jean-Michel Jarre is a synthesist from France, one of the true pioneers of the "new age" artform. His first album, _Oxygene_, released in 1976 is generally regarded as one of the first "new age" albums. A lot of his music takes some getting used to (especially _Zoolook_), but much of it is (or at least, was) ground-breaking. People have been wondering aloud here about Red House Painters. There's a short article about them in the new Rolling Stone (the one with Janet Jackson on the cover). They're a band from San Francisco. Their music is rather slow and deliberate, but strangely appealing. I have their first album, _Down Colorful Hill_. They're on 4AD records, and currently they're Ivo's (the founder of 4AD) favorite band. Got my _RhodeSongs_ yesterday, at last. I like "Summer" quite a bit. A friend of mine is getting married in Maine (near Acadia) next June. Right now I'm thinking of driving cross-country w/Emily .. stopping at Ecto-hostels along the way. If possible, I'd like to stop in Woodstock and take H&K out to lunch. I could even sell tour T-shirts! It's quite a ways away yet, so don't mark your calendars just yet. :) D^2 ======================================================================== Date: Fri, 17 Sep 93 11:43:35 PDT From: "John M. Relph" Subject: Re: so they ate the music... >heard kate on wdre last night. after "eat the music" >finished, the dj said "i always thought she had sensual lips...OH >uh, that was kate bush, 'eat the music.' well, why stop there?" So I actually picked up both _Eat The Music_ and _Rubberband Girl_ at our local CD store the other day. I listened to "Eat The Music" and it's not bad, I like the fact that it's got a little African influence (cf. The Bhundu Boys). My first impression was that the song was about Kate Bush and her relationship to her fans. She wants us, her fans, to "Eat The Music", that is, listen to the music, and stop following HER around. She's an artist, and it's the ART that's important, not the ARTIST. I'm not going to claim this is a correct interpretation by any means, but it came to my mind nonetheless. >but on the other hand, a friend is going to england, and she >promised to bring me back "rubberband girl." THAT, from what i >could tell over the phone, is a fabulous song. i can't wait! It's fine. I actually like the sound of "Eat The Music" better. But "Rubberband Girl" made me think of Madonna. Let's see, Madonna lets herself be stretched in various ways in order to please and tease the public. Kate Bush wishes she were the Rubberband Girl, because then she would be famous and rich, not just a cult artist. Okay, that one was even more tenuous than the first. So what? I think they are funny anyway. Food For Thought. Eat The Music. -- John ======================================================================== The ecto archives are on hardees.rutgers.edu in ~ftp/pub/hr. There is an INDEX file explaining what is where. Feel free to send me things you'd like to have added. -- jessica (jessica@ns1.rutgers.edu)