Errors-To: owner-ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu Reply-To: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu Sender: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu From: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu To: ecto-request@ns1.rutgers.edu Bcc: ecto-digest-outbound@ns1.rutgers.edu Subject: ecto #336 ecto, Number 336 Thursday, 24 September 1992 Today's Topics: *-----------------* dizzy delerium dancing Re: Anne Clark Dijeridus make noise too Michelle Shocked Touring Jane Siberry Tape dubbing FAQ Tape dubbing status am I not broke(n)? Re: Tape dubbing FAQ Elevated temps and other stories Today's acapella pick Boston area alert Elevated temps and other stories ======================================================================== Date: Tue, 22 Sep 92 07:56:18 EDT From: woj Subject: dizzy delerium dancing thanks for all the anne clark info...i did get around to listening to that single that i picked up and i rather like it. "true love stories" is a rather cynical piece, no? looks like another person to put on my list of cds-to-get-somtime. i dunno if the video of "blood makes noise" is a different mix or not, but i thought the same thing when i saw it last night. it certainly sounded rawer to my ears, but i attributed it to mono audio. i'll have to go back and do a a/b comparison (i taped the video too). have to agree with Mp: not only did my bloody valentine melt my brain, they also melted my eardrums. that was probably one of the most powerful performances i've ever seen/heard/felt. it was not a slick production - it was just a simple assault on the senses. not for the weak of heart (or those who want to retain their hearing into their old age). woj ======================================================================== Subject: Re: Anne Clark Date: Tue, 22 Sep 92 10:38:21 -0400 From: "cultural elite" justin writes: >Two earlier albums >were released on Virgin Germany only: Changing Places (1983) and Joined >Up Writing/The Sitting Room (actually two records on one CD). I have a vinyl copy of The Sitting Room ('82, looks to be self-published). Spoken poetry over strange electronic noises, in a generally depressing vein. In some weird way it reminds me of the spoken bits Mike Moorcock used to do with Hawkwind, if you just turned Mike into a woman and gave everyone *lots* of valium... -- Dan Riley Internet: dsr@lns598.tn.cornell.edu Wilson Lab, Cornell University HEPNET/SPAN: lns598::dsr (44630::dsr) "Maybe, leastways is the best way of all" -Caterwaul ======================================================================== From: kyrlidis@athena.mit.edu Subject: Dijeridus make noise too Date: Tue, 22 Sep 92 13:00:10 EDT Hi, Upon further reflection on the issue of the noisy vocals by Suzanne, I think it was probably the mono cheap TV I saw the video on. And following Jeff's suggestion, I listened to the song using headphones, and there the distinction of the two vocal parts becomes obvious... Did I praise the Yothu Yindi CD here? Probably not. It's an amazing combination of tribal aboriginal songs from northeastern Australia and more contemporary pop songs, with extensive use of the above-mentioned noisy instrument. Martin, what is the general consensus about this band in Australia? later Angelos ======================================================================== Date: 22 Sep 92 17:30:50 EDT From: MJM Subject: Michelle Shocked Touring I just purchased tickets to see Michelle Shocked's Arkansas Traveller tour. I know she has been discussed here before, or at least mentioned, so I thought I'd give her a plug. I have seen Shocked (*not* her real name... anybody know what is) perform twice now; once in '88 when she opened for Billy Bragg and was virtually unknown, and once last year when she was doing what I can only reckon was a discreet tour of small venues to announce the soon arrival of her later- released album, _AT_. I saw her at Northwestern U. and the show got exactly ZERO publicity in normal channels (it was actually reserved for NU students, which I am not). For anyone who is thinking about it, let me make up your mind for you. Go. See her if you have a chance. Despite being admittedly slightly bored by _AT_, her live performance brightens even the dullest bluegrass tune into a transcendental musical experience. She has a fabulous stage presence and is completely at ease with the audience. At the NU show, I was with a disbeliever (she had heard that Alaska song and disliked it) and by the end of the evening she was a True Fan. OK, next question: She is (at least in Chicago: Park West 10/22) accompanied by *alot* of other acts: The Band for one (since when does The Band *open* for anyone? Is this the same band or are they missing members (i.e. Robbie Robertson, etc.)?). But also, 2 I've never heard about except in passing: Taj Mahal and Uncle Tupelo. Anybody have any scoopy or opinions on these? Do they have albums that are worth listening to? I can only presume they are somewhere in the folk/bluegrass/acoustic/ folk-rock vein, considering who they are opening for. In any case, the presence of all these acts pumps the ticket price to a juicy $28.50 (not counting bullshit charges). And while we're at it, I know I've heard Judy Tenuta mentioned here, but can someone refresh my memory as to why? Thanks. ______________________________________________________________________ |--------------------------------.------------------------------------ | || mjm@zylab.mhs. /\/\ / /\/\ "No pinky ring hustlers, || || compuserve.com / / /_/ / / / No sabre-tooth neighbours" || |\_____________________________________________________________________/ \--------------------------------------------------------------------/ ======================================================================== From: Tim Cook Date: Wed, 23 Sep 92 11:01:11 BST Subject: Jane Siberry Many thanks to all of you lot that offered help and suggestions. I've managed to track down a copy of "The Walking" and it should be winging it's way across the pond even as I type! Now can someone tell me what the Rainbirds are like? tim ======================================================================== Date: Wed, 23 Sep 92 08:24:20 MDT From: dbx@olympic.atmos.colostate.edu (Doug Burks) Subject: Tape dubbing FAQ Greetings, Here are the answers to all of your questions you have asked (and some that you haven't :) ) about the Ecto tape dubbing project. * What tapes are available? Happy Gift Project 1991, Vol I (C-100) Happy Gift Project 1991, Vol II (C-100) These are songs selected by Ectophiles as a gift for Happy for the winter holiday season. It is quite an eclectic collection to browse through. Ecto Suspended in Gaffa (C-100) A special Suspended in Gaffa show put together by Vickie Mapes for Ectophiles only. It includes some favorite Happy songs, demos from the Barlett/Rhodes project, and parts of Vickie's on-air interview with Happy. Miscellaneous Happy tape (C-90) World Cafe interview of Happy, including live versions of "Feed the Fire", "Words Weren't Made For Cowards", and "Given In". The songs are included as originally recorded and in the context of the interview. The tape also includes two songs by Kevin Bartlett on which Happy singing ethereal backing vocals, and the five Bartlett/ Rhodes demos. Femme Music Collection Vol I (Lushy Pop) (C-90) Femme Music Collection Vol II (Mish Smash) (C-90) Femme Music Collection Vol III (Voices) (C-90) Femme Music Collection Vol IV (International Sampler) (C-90) Femme Music Collection Vol V (Easy, does it?) (C-90) Femme Music Collection Vol VI (C-90) A wide-ranging collection of female vocalists selected by Vickie Mapes Happy Rhodes Live! Albany NY 18 March 1992 Vol I (C-100) Happy Rhodes Live! Albany NY 18 March 1992 Vol II (C-100) Live recording by woj of the Happy Rhodes concert at the QE2. This is a high quality recording for the conditions. (Note that this tape will only be sent to Ectophiles. Please respect Happy's and Kevin's wishes and don't make copies of this for anyone who does not already own Happy's albums). The Last Champagne Jam 15 May 1992 Vol I (C-100) The Last Champagne Jam 15 May 1992 Vol II (C-100) The "last" Champagne Jam broadcast on WESU-FM in Middletown CT, hosted by Meredith Tarr, chock full of Ecto-style artists and even some (*gasp*) male vocalists. The recording is of decent quality. The Unofficial Happy Sampler A sampler of songs by Happy Rhodes from all five of her albums, as chosen by Meredith Tarr. If you want the see the actual contents of any or all of these tapes, please e-mail me. A printed copy of the tape contents will be included with every order. * Sounds great! How do I get a copy of any or all of these tapes? Three methods of getting the tapes are available: * Establish a cassette account with me. In other words, send me a check to cover the cost of cassettes, packaging, and postage. Put in as much as you want, not necessarily just to cover a single order (though you can do that, too). Then anytime that you want a cassette in the future, you would just e-mail me, and I can get things out to you as soon as possible without you having to mail me anything. In this case, I would dip into my own supply of chrome cassettes which I've ordered in bulk (Thanks, Mitch!). Accounts can be opened or closed at any time. Put in as much as you want, as more tapes should be added. * Establish a cassette account, as in 1, except that I will purchase the type of tape you specifically request. Obviously the cost of the tape will be higher, though the packaging and postage will be the same. * Send me the cassettes you want to put the music on (C-90 or C-100) along with money to cover packaging and return postage. I will copy the tapes you request and return them. Consider opening an account, as it will save you having to mail an order, let alone the cassettes. * How much will it cost? If you use my stash of cassettes, the cost for the cassettes is $1.12 each. The packaging for mailing the cassettes is between $0.34 and $0.66 depending on the number of tapes mailed. The postage varies depending on the number of tapes and the destination. So far, it has ranged between $1.05 and $16.70. Big help, eh? If you wish a more precise estimate for your postage cost, I can give you one via e-mail. US orders will be mailed book rate, taking five to seven days. Non-US orders will be air mailed, taking about seven to ten days. As for foreign payments, so far everyone has sent either American cash or a money order denominated in US currency. I believe that I can handle anything denominated in US currency, and probably any cashier's check (a check drawn on the bank's rather than a personal account). * Where do I send the order? To me. My mailing address: Doug Burks, 2036 West Plum Street C7, Fort Collins CO 80521 USA Orders will be processed in the order I get them, with special dispensation for foreign orders. Please note that I will not process any e-mail orders unless you have an open cassette account. * Anything else I should know? Just a few odds and ends: If I make any mistakes, I will replace the tape for free. I intend to post a progress report on the dubbing operation regularly. If you have any other questions, feel free to ask! Doug Burks _O_ dbx@olympic.atmos.colostate.edu |< She really is!! ======================================================================== Date: Wed, 23 Sep 92 08:24:09 MDT From: dbx@olympic.atmos.colostate.edu (Doug Burks) Subject: Tape dubbing status Greetings, Here is the current up-to-date status of the tape dubbing project. Doesn't this just start getting a few people's hearts racing? :) Questions start popping up all over. When will Vickie send her interview tape? When will Greg send the Albany concert tapes? Will Meredith ever send me her order? What _is_ the status of the HBP? Will any Gaffa readers feel guilty about this unethical project and sic a lynch mob after me? Will Jon Drukman send a sample tape of his own music for distribution? And what about Betty Lou? Stay tuned for the next installment for the thrilling answers to these and other spine-tingling questions. The format of the chart is the same as last time. The first column holds everyone's names in alphabetic order. The second column holds the available tapes and status for each person. (The key to the symbols follows the table). The last column holds your current tape account balance. As just a quick look at the chart shows that I have no orders outstanding, so if you want some tapes, now is the time to act! 123456789ABCDEF alaska.bitnet MMMMMMM...MM... US$ 9.07 Tracy Barber M.........MM... 2.48 Jens Brage MMMMMMMMMMMM... 40.00 Tim Breitkreutz MMMMMMMMMMMM... 4.39 Shelly Brewer .MMMMMM.....MM. 8.52 Bob Brown MMMMMMM...MMMM. 20.11 Richard Chen .MMM.M....MM... 29.68 Jessica Dembski MMMMMMM...MM... 0.00 Ken Descoteaux MMMMMMM...MM... 0.68 Karl Dotzek M........MMM... 19.77 Martin Dougiamas MMMMMMM...MM... 5.11 Steve Fagg MMMMMMM...MMMM. 36.00 Neile Graham MMMMMMM...MM... 11.10 Klaus Kluge .MMMMMM.....MM. 9.79 Bob Kollmeyer MMMMMMM...MM... 12.30 Vickie Mapes ..........MM... 0.00 Mike Mendelson MMMMMMMMMMMM... 14.75 Beth Perry MMMMMMM...MMMM. 7.65 Michael Peskura MMMMMMM.....MM. 5.07 Albert Philipsen MMMMMMM........ 14.45 John Relph ..........MM... 0.00 Mark Semich .MMMMMM........ 11.49 Al Sodoma ..........MM... 5.95 Rob Woiccak MMMMMMM...MM... 3.10 Barry Wong MMMMMMM...MM... 1.11 Perttu Yli-Krekola MMMMMMMMM.MM... 0.52 Q -- tape has been requested R -- tape has been recorded M -- tape has been mailed 1 World Cafe interview and miscellaneous Happy 2 Femme Music Collection I: Lushy pop 3 Femme Music Collection II: Mish Smash 4 Femme Music Collection III: Voices 5 Femme Music Collection IV: International Sampler 6 Femme Music Collection V: Easy, does it? 7 Femme Music Collection VI 8 1991 Happy Gift Project I 9 1991 Happy Gift Project II A Ecto Suspended in Gaffa B Happy Rhodes Live! Albany NY 18 Mar 1992 I C Happy Rhodes Live! Albany NY 18 Mar 1992 II D The Last Champange Jam I E The Last Champange Jam II F The (Un)official Happy Sampler If you have any questions, problems, or corrections, feel free to e-mail me! Doug Burks _O_ dbx@olympic.atmos.colostate.edu |< She really is!! ======================================================================== From: kyrlidis@athena.mit.edu Subject: am I not broke(n)? Date: Wed, 23 Sep 92 18:24:35 EDT hi to all happy people, i have been doing *lots* of reading lately, and the need to listen to music while reading [music makes noise, when it's close to my ears, and covers the sounds of a graduate student office which get louder through the years] has led me to some cd-shopping extremes. so since i desperately need a break from what i am doing, i will share my opinions on my latest purchases. nin-broken: i had this on tape (from the wfnx broadcast) but decided to splurge and buy it on cd (ok, ok, i thought the cd3 that is included was a limited edition bonus cd :) ). The two extra songs are *really* good, and the rest is as good as it was last week. sinead o'connor-am i not your girl?: you probably read that this one sucks somewhere. bad reviews of it have appeared *everywhere*. if you like jazz, and big band music, you'll *love* this one. sinead sings with heartfelt emotion, is sort of restrained (in that she doesn't scream), and does great covers of all the tunes. my favorites have to be 'success has made a failure of our home' 'don't cry for me argentina' and 'gloomy sunday' [i can't decide if i like sinead's version better than the live sarah mclachlan version]. i would *love* to see happy release a cd of covers of *her* favorite songs. based on the live 'feed the fire' that jessica described, that would include songs by kate, bowie, queen, yes, and probably peter gabriel, sting, mouth music, and others. but that won't probably be til she's rich and famous. hmm, 'feed the fire' would be a nice name to call that future and purely imaginary cd :) angelos ======================================================================== Date: Thu, 24 Sep 92 2:29:00 EDT From: Vickie Mapes Subject: Re: Tape dubbing FAQ Hey Doug, Hi Doug, thanks for the Dubbing FAQ. Coupla things: *Please* *please* *please* take the Ecto SiG *OFF* the list. It's not relevant, pertinent or proper anymore, and I really, really, most truly and absolutely, want it taken off. Really. OK? Thanks. Second, I am now the proud owner of a new cassette deck (my birthday present from Chris) so that means I no longer have to record things onto videocassette, then back to audiocassette, which will make *tons* of things much easier to do (and they'll sound better!) so: The next time Chris heads down to Kansas City I can finish the projects I started, but wasn't happy with because of the sound. The interview tape is one thing (though the Helen Light interview will still be too fast--unfortunately the new deck doesn't have a pitch control and Charley's tape was recorded fast) and some new Femme Music Collection tapes are the others. Because of the cassette deck, and because I also got a second CD player since I recorded the last batch of FMC tapes, I will also re-record the old tapes, Volumes I-VI. The difference in sound quality should be dramatic! (Sorry to all the people who got the originals, but I hope the music was worth it, even though the sound sucked.) (If new people are wondering...I have a radio show that airs in two cities, and I have my own "studio" at home---Gaffa Central is what Jorn calls it--consisting of a reel-to-reel, mixer board, microphone, 2 CD players and 2 cassette decks (one double, one single.) I have a turntable too, but it's totally useless for mixing because it's not a "DJ" style where you can cue a record up and start it up in a couple of seconds. Whenever I want to play something from an LP I have to record the track onto cassette first and use that. Hmm, I should send a letter to Sanity Clause :-). So, I record the Chicago show directly onto reel-to-reel and take the tape to the station. I can't be live because I'm not a student. I used to send the Kansas City show down on r-to-r, but the postage costs were horrendous, so I started recording it onto videocassette, then back onto audiocassette. Because the double cassette is wired into the mixing board, I couldn't record the show *directly* onto cassette using that deck. I could only record onto reel-to-reel or onto a videocassette. _That's_ why I'm *so* happy about hte second cassette deck. Well, so, there's my story :-) ) What it all means is, look for new tapes in the very near future, Doug. Hey Doug, the Chicago Tribune actually had a cover story on Ft. Collins, CO. The same day there was an article about Sociology in Chicago, and that made me think of Mitch too. A Tribune day for Ectophile-thoughts! (Speaking if Mitch...Mitch, a Chicago patrolman beat you to your own potential blurb. In today's paper he said "Chicago's the only city in the world that has rivers that leak and bridges that fall _up_!" And Mitch, I'll let you explain that one to the fine folks who are blissfully ignorant of our wonderful infrastructure. Klaus and Claudia, are you getting situated after your whirlwind American vacation? It was *WONDERFUL* meeting you and having you over (though I *really* apologise profusely about Ren and Stimpy) and thanks for all the wonderful music you brought, which I will be talking about soon. Meredith and woj, did you get to catch Blue Man Group on Leno? Sorry I woke you up Meredith, but I really wanted you to know that they were on. Everybody else...Blue Man Group seem to be favorites of Jay Leno's. They are the only performance art/musical group ever to appear on The Tonight Show, and then, to be asked *back* within weeks of the first appearance! They're a name to remember, because with all this exposure on Leno, they'll probably start appearing on other shows too. Has anyone outside the US ever seen a feature on them? I'd try to describe them but it's nigh near impossible. Perhaps someone else can give it a try. I posted a review of their stage show a while back, but I can't remember when it was, to guide in an archive search. Tim B., you should definitely include them in your INDEX (*wonderful idea, btw! I realized I hadn't said that publicly*) even though they're not "normal" musicians. ObHappy: *sigh* I just bought another copy of Vol.I at The Music Exchange in Evanston, so now I can mix from one song to another on the same album, instead of waiting for one song to completely end and then pushing the button to get to the next track I want. It's just too cool! To be able to *mix* songs on the same album, instead of having to mix a song from another album in between. It's the kind of thing only (DJ-type) programmers get excited about, but it is a lot of fun. Now I have to get extra copies of the other albums so I can do the same thing with them. Is it a sign of madness, or what? I bought multiple copies of the cassettes, then I bought multiple copies of Warpaint, now I'm in the process of buying multiple copies of the 1st4 CDs! Happy maddness-it's a fine thing! Bed time, bye... Vickie ======================================================================== Date: 23 September 1992 15:53:45 CDT From: Subject: Elevated temps and other stories The thread in these pages a while back about the title of Suzanne Vega's new album, "99.9 degrees" or words to that effect, came to mind yesterday while listening to a report on the recent findings on normal body temperatures. It appears that 98.6 F is not the gold standard after all; normality comes in a range from 96 to about 99.something, though apparently 99.9 is still consid- ered febrile. I recalled something that my doctor once told me about this: that the 98.6 benchmark is really the average of a half-dozen or so temps taken by the researcher who laid this definition of "normal" temperature on us back in 1862. Since then, I have also remembered something that happened to me back in the winter of 1980. I meant to mention it in these pages, but forgot to, several months ago after hearing Cheryl Bentyne's cover of Peggy Lee's "Fever" on the radio. In the previous decade, I heard the original rendition on the radio one morning, while I was feeling slightly under the weather. As the day wore on, I found myself feeling progressively further under the weather. By the next night, I had a real, as opposed to a musical, fever of 104.3. Somehow, it has all stuck in my memory. One bit of political music I forgot to mention yesterday: Barbra Streisand's cover of "Happy Days are Here Again." (Why does that title remind me of Someone We All Know?) Mitch ======================================================================== Date: Thu, 24 Sep 92 09:55:02 EDT From: David N. Blank-Edelman Subject: Today's acapella pick Howdy- Actually, I wouldn't call it today's pick, since they've been around for over 15 years. I speak of no other but Sweet Honey in the Rock. Anybody interested in hearing a testimonial for them? I'll just note that their latest album "In This Land" is teriffic. It might not be the album that I would start with from them, but it is top notch. Peace, dNb ======================================================================== From: kyrlidis@athena.mit.edu Subject: Boston area alert Date: Thu, 24 Sep 92 11:22:46 EDT Hi, Just a reminder that Tribe are playing tonight at City Hall Plaza. Their show starts at 8pm, and is part of the Boston rib-cookout. Admission is $5, and I am not sure if it includes ribs. :) Worth checking out! Angelos ======================================================================== Date: Thu, 24 Sep 92 10:00:44 PDT From: stevev@greylady.uoregon.edu (Steve VanDevender) Subject: Elevated temps and other stories U15289@uicvm.bitnet (the inimitable Mitch Pravatiner) writes: > The thread in these pages a while back about the title of > Suzanne Vega's new album, "99.9 degrees" or words to that > effect, came to mind yesterday while listening to a report on > the recent findings on normal body temperatures. It appears > that 98.6 F is not the gold standard after all; normality > comes in a range from 96 to about 99.something, though > apparently 99.9 is still consid- ered febrile. I recalled > something that my doctor once told me about this: that the > 98.6 benchmark is really the average of a half-dozen or so > temps taken by the researcher who laid this definition of > "normal" temperature on us back in 1862. My body temperature has always been slightly above normal, usually in the range 37.2-37.7 degrees Celsius (99.0-99.8 degrees Fahrenheit). During those periods when I've been hospitalized the nurses would often become concerned because I seemed to have a permanent low-grade fever and would have to be reassured by my doctor that this was normal, at least for me. The last time I was in the hospital I also developed slightly elevated blood pressure; I said to my doctor, somewhat jokingly, in an increasingly snarling tone, "Gee, I don't know why being stuck in a bed for a month would make me TENSE or UNCOMFORTABLE!" Fortunately it all seemed to be the result of inactivity since my blood pressure dropped right back to normal after I returned to the real world. Have I mentioned lately that _Warpaint_ is just a stunningly brilliant album? I just can't get tired of it, and I've been trying lately. Local fellow Happy-fan Norm Nelson told me yesterday that he did a bit of Happyvangelizing by playing _Warpaint_ for some friends, who, as he put it, were "blown away" and are planning to order it for themselves. Bit by bit, we feed the fire. ======================================================================== From: kyrlidis@athena.mit.edu Subject: Re: Elevated temps and other stories Date: Thu, 24 Sep 92 13:09:24 EDT Steve writes triggered by Mitch's post: >My body temperature has always been slightly above normal, >usually in the range 37.2-37.7 degrees Celsius (99.0-99.8 degrees >Fahrenheit). Maybe 'mean body temperature' should be added to the info held in the ectophile database, right next to shoe size... :) Angelos ======================================================================== The ecto archives are on hardees.rutgers.edu in ~ftp/pub/hr. There is an INDEX file explaining what is where. Feel free to send me things you'd like to have added. -- jessica (jessica@ns1.rutgers.edu)