10-Sep-91 8:20:23-GMT,1709;000000000001 Received: from [129.217.64.60] by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA15206; Tue, 10 Sep 91 04:19:35 EDT Received: from Materna-Gw.Materna.DE by unido.informatik.uni-dortmund.de with SMTP (5.65+/UNIDO-2.0.4.d) via EUnet for athos.rutgers.edu id AA25849; Tue, 10 Sep 91 10:15:46 +0200 Message-Id: <9109100816.AA04719@elwood.Materna.DE> To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Cc: kkluge@materna.de Subject: HR & KB & JS & JM Organization: Dr. Materna GmbH Date: Tue, 10 Sep 91 10:16:25 N From: Klaus Kluge Alright, I now have 'The Speckless Sky' in the car's cassette player, with the latest Joni Mitchell album 'Night Ride Home' on the backside (TSS on the way to work, 'Night Ride Home' in the evening :). After reading that some of you compared Happy's voice to Joni Mitchell's and reading in a KaTe-interview in r.m.gaffa that she as well was compared with Joni, I couldn't resist to get one of her albums as well. I've only heard her name before, never her music, so it was about time. Do I like it? Yes! Any recommendations for a second album by Joni Mitchell? Coming back to TSS: Something I noticed was the big similarity (in voice and mood) between the last song on TSS 'the taxi ride' and Cyndi Lauper's 'True Colors' (the one song from CL I like). So it was quite easy for 'the taxi ride' to become another of my favourites on TSS. _________________________________________________________ | "Tell me all the plans you have for the great beyond. | | Will you be physical again, or be a cosmic vagabond." | | --- Happy Rhodes --- | | Klaus "cosmic vagabond" Kluge kkluge@Materna.DE | 10-Sep-91 13:41:51-GMT,2235;000000000001 Received: from aristotle.ils.nwu.edu by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA07523; Tue, 10 Sep 91 09:41:31 EDT Received: from GUESSWHO (mac24.ils.nwu.edu) by aristotle.ils.nwu.edu (4.0/SMI-ACNS-1.04) id AA17148; Tue, 10 Sep 91 08:40:40 CDT Date: Tue, 10 Sep 91 08:40:40 CDT From: barger@ils.nwu.edu (Jorn Barger) Message-Id: <9109101340.AA17148@aristotle.ils.nwu.edu> To: ecto@cs.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: HR & KB & JS & JM >Any recommendations for a second album by Joni Mitchell? Here's my view of Joni's career (forgive all ignorant blunders): Two earliest albums (Both Sides Now? and ?) were a litle too... high-pitched-wide-eyed-flower-child for me. Blue, her third, must have been her best seller, intense confessional romance-obsessed. A must-have for your collection. For the Roses and Court and Spark were more uneven. I found C&S more commercial in a negative way. For the Roses I still have a special fondness for... it has a special intense femininity that I go for. Hissing of Summer Lawns started Joni's fall from popularity, rather like TD with Kate. It takes gorgeous chances, moving into jazz, moving away from obsessive self-reflection. Rolling Stone hated it. It's one of the ones I play most. Don Juan's Reckless Daughter (or was Hejira next?) was a double album, spread a bit thin. (One whole side is an instrumental improv with Latin drums.) Several favorite songs here though: Talk to Me, Marlena (?), the title song. Hejira, with Joni as ice-skating crazy crow on the cover, was her 2nd peak after Blue. Every song is strong and full of throbbing (?) longing. And then Mingus, my other favorite, difficult, interspersed with jarring tape-recordings of Charlie Mingus talking with friends at home, Joni writing words to Mingus's fantastic melodies-- Chair in the Sky, Pork Pie Hat, Sweet Sucker Dance, Dry Cleaner from Des Moines. (Her paintings on the cover are also brilliant.) This album was a colaborative miracle that somehow seemed to achieve perfect incomprehensibility for many loyal fans: Joni reaches the outer edge of the galaxy, all alone, and then turns around, gets married, and starts heading home. The last few albums I found very bland, including Night Ride. 10-Sep-91 13:59:57-GMT,1210;000000000001 Received: from LNS598.TN.CORNELL.EDU by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA09351; Tue, 10 Sep 91 09:59:46 EDT Received: by lns598.TN.CORNELL.EDU (5.57/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA13838; Tue, 10 Sep 91 09:59:43 -0400 Message-Id: <9109101359.AA13838@lns598.TN.CORNELL.EDU> To: ecto@cs.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: HR & KB & JS & JM In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 10 Sep 91 08:40:40 CDT." <9109101340.AA17148@aristotle.ils.nwu.edu> Date: Tue, 10 Sep 91 09:59:42 -0400 From: "Dan Riley" X-Mts: smtp Jorn Barger writes lots of things I *absolutely* agree with about Joni Mitchell (well, I like Court & Spark more than he does, but otherwise). The only thing I have to add is, > The last few albums I found very bland, including Night Ride. Right before she turned around & headed home, she released a fantastic live album, Shadows&Light. Songs cover most of her career to that point, and the backup band--Jaco Pastorious, Pat Metheny, Lyle Mays, Michael Brecker, the Tempations (on a couple of songs) (and who was the drummer? bother...hope I've got the rest right...)--is fantastic. Not a replacement for the studio albums, but a marvelous supplement. -dan 10-Sep-91 14:10:20-GMT,483;000000000001 Received: from csd4.csd.uwm.edu by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA10935; Tue, 10 Sep 91 10:10:15 EDT Received: by csd4.csd.uwm.edu; id AA22216; Tue, 10 Sep 91 09:10:12 -0500 From: Jeanne B Schreiter Message-Id: <9109101410.AA22216@csd4.csd.uwm.edu> Subject: Finding Happy To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu (ecto) Date: Tue, 10 Sep 91 9:10:12 CDT Did everyone get their cd review in the mail yesterday? Did you find Happy (s) (ad?) .../\... 10-Sep-91 16:39:59-GMT,2297;000000000001 Received: from RUTGERS.EDU by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA24219; Tue, 10 Sep 91 12:39:27 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) with UUCP id AA00750; Tue, 10 Sep 91 07:19:11 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by oddjob.uchicago.edu Tue, 10 Sep 91 05:50:27 -0500 Received: by gargoyle.uchicago.edu (4.0/1.14) id AA21762; Tue, 10 Sep 91 05:50:25 CDT Received: by chinet.chi.il.us (/\==/\ Smail3.1.22.1 #22.1) id ; Mon, 9 Sep 91 23:35 CDT Message-Id: Date: Mon, 9 Sep 91 23:35 CDT From: katefans@chinet.chi.il.us (Chris n Vickie) To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: Gaffa gone again? Vickie here. Things are TwilightZone-like here. No gaffa, no ecto, no nothing! I'm beginning to think the sysop at Chinet is playing games with us. Nothing's coming in, nothing's getting out...how weird! This is becoming a regular thing, so I know I sound like a broken record. It's just that Jorn got some Ecto today (it's Monday night) and I didn't. The last Ecto I got was my FAQ, and that took days to appear after I mailed it. I've sent things since then. Pooh! I'll be sending Happy a bunch of floppys and so I've been going through them and putting on things she and kevin might be interested in. I'm going through the Warpaint lyrics and cleaning them up (adding things that weren't in the lyric sheet and making them fit my files, etc) so she'll have the very latest updates & things. Klaus, I went and numbered your list of Alphabetical Song Titles and found out that there are 65 songs. Don' itchglitchglitch! Don't know where I came up with 75 songs, I was wrong in my early gaffa posts. Klaus, you forgot to put the Ecto B numbers so I did that too. That list is great! Thanks again for doing it. Doug, I appreciate the typo-watch you're doing. I've already gone through and made the changes you caught. Bums me out though, cause I spent hours oing over those lyrics searching for typos. I'll never be a proofreader by trade, I guess. Do send any others you catch, please. Vickie katefans@chinet.chi.il.us Weird, we figured out that the "at" sign was being used as an escape key so now we have to put a "\" before our "at" signs. Sillysillysilly. 10-Sep-91 16:57:48-GMT,3598;000000000001 Received: from RUTGERS.EDU by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA26156; Tue, 10 Sep 91 12:57:34 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) with UUCP id AA00759; Tue, 10 Sep 91 07:19:13 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by oddjob.uchicago.edu Tue, 10 Sep 91 05:50:44 -0500 Received: by gargoyle.uchicago.edu (4.0/1.14) id AA21786; Tue, 10 Sep 91 05:50:43 CDT Received: by chinet.chi.il.us (/\==/\ Smail3.1.22.1 #22.1) id ; Tue, 10 Sep 91 05:22 CDT Message-Id: Date: Tue, 10 Sep 91 05:22 CDT From: katefans@chinet.chi.il.us (Chris n Vickie) To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: Check this out, computer whizzes... Vickie here. I just logged on and got a ton (not tome :-) of *bounced* messages. Everything Chris and I sent to rec.music.gaffa in the past week, plus a lot of e-mail. No Ecto came back...yet. Say, I'm going to post the header of one of the bouncys and if anyone can tell me what's going on I'd sure appreciate it. It seems like not only is there a problem with the Alaska connection, there is a problem here in Chicago too. Look how long it took to get from clout.chi to homebru.chi! Jeez, I got letters from Serge in Russia quicker than that! I feel somewhat petty and silly complaining, since this is a service we feel privledged to be getting...e-mail is free on Chinet. Mainly it's interesting to figure out how all this works. The net...it is a strange and complicated thing. Wonderful when it works, frustrating when it doesn't. Kind of like life, I guess. here 'tis... ? Message 10: >From homebru!gargoyle!gatech.edu!mit-eddie!MAILER-DAEMON Tue Sep 10 03:11:00 1991 Date: Mon, 9 Sep 91 14:20:42 -0400 From: Mail Delivery Subsystem Subject: Returned mail: Cannot send message for 3 days To: homebru!clout!chinet!katefans ----- Transcript of session follows ----- 421 hayes.ims.alaska.edu.tcp... Deferred: Connection timed out during user open with HAYES.IMS.ALASKA.EDU ----- Unsent message follows ----- Received: by EDDIE.MIT.EDU with UUCP (5.65/25-eef) id AA03507; Fri, 6 Sep 91 14:12:58 -0400 Received: from ncar.UCAR.EDU by gatech.edu (4.1/Gatech-9.1) id AA25833 for love-hounds; Fri, 6 Sep 91 02:17:15 EDT Received: by ncar.ucar.EDU (5.65/ NCAR Central Post Office 04/10/90) id AA25602; Fri, 6 Sep 91 00:17:12 MDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by oddjob.uchicago.edu Fri, 6 Sep 91 00:58:06 -0500 Received: by gargoyle.uchicago.edu (4.0/1.14) id AA14006; Fri, 6 Sep 91 00:58:04 CDT Received: by homebru.chi.il.us (smail2.5) id AA08270; 6 Sep 91 00:27:37 CDT (Fri) Received: by clout.chi.il.us (/\==/\ Smail3.1.22.1 #22.1) clout.chi.il.us>; Wed, 4 Sep 91 20:52 CDT Received: by chinet.chi.il.us (/\==/\ Smail3.1.22.1 #22.1) chinet.chi.il.us>; Wed, 4 Sep 91 17:23 CDT chinet.chi.il.us> Date: Wed, 4 Sep 91 17:24 CDT From: gatech!chinet.chi.il.us!katefans (Chris n Vickie) eddie.mit.edu Subject: Jon & Jon Oh yeah, I'm still reading. This is highly entertaining, amusing and enlightening. Keep it up guys! Vickie "she who has no 'at' sign" "Bang-a goes another kanga on the bonnet of the van" ============================================================================ Now I'm wondering why it took so long to bounce back to us. btw, I still didn't get any of the Ecto Jorn said he got. Did they bounce from us back to to people who sent them? So...computer experts....what's the deal here? Vickie katefans@chinet.chi.il.us 10-Sep-91 16:59:56-GMT,3820;000000000001 Received: from RUTGERS.EDU by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA26472; Tue, 10 Sep 91 12:59:48 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) with UUCP id AA00760; Tue, 10 Sep 91 07:19:12 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by oddjob.uchicago.edu Tue, 10 Sep 91 05:50:47 -0500 Received: by gargoyle.uchicago.edu (4.0/1.14) id AA21789; Tue, 10 Sep 91 05:50:45 CDT Received: by chinet.chi.il.us (/\==/\ Smail3.1.22.1 #22.1) id ; Tue, 10 Sep 91 05:38 CDT Message-Id: Date: Tue, 10 Sep 91 05:38 CDT From: katefans@chinet.chi.il.us (Chris n Vickie) To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: Strange goings on in netland... Great, I sent this and it bounced back quicker than you could say "what's the deal here?" Once more, with feeling... Vickie here. I just logged on and got a ton (not tome :-) of *bounced* messages. Everything Chris and I sent to rec.music.gaffa in the past week, plus a lot of e-mail. No Ecto came back...yet. Say, I'm going to post the header of one of the bouncys and if anyone can tell me what's going on I'd sure appreciate it. It seems like not only is there a problem with the Alaska connection, there is a problem here in Chicago too. Look how long it took to get from clout.chi to homebru.chi! Jeez, I got letters from Serge in Russia quicker than that! I feel somewhat petty and silly complaining, since this is a service we feel privledged to be getting...e-mail is free on Chinet. Mainly it's interesting to figure out how all this works. The net...it is a strange and complicated thing. Wonderful when it works, frustrating when it doesn't. Kind of like life, I guess. here 'tis... ? Message 10: >From homebru!gargoyle!gatech.edu!mit-eddie!MAILER-DAEMON Tue Sep 10 03:11:00 1991 Date: Mon, 9 Sep 91 14:20:42 -0400 From: Mail Delivery Subsystem Subject: Returned mail: Cannot send message for 3 days To: homebru!clout!chinet!katefans ----- Transcript of session follows ----- 421 hayes.ims.alaska.edu.tcp... Deferred: Connection timed out during user open with HAYES.IMS.ALASKA.EDU ----- Unsent message follows ----- Received: by EDDIE.MIT.EDU with UUCP (5.65/25-eef) id AA03507; Fri, 6 Sep 91 14:12:58 -0400 Received: from ncar.UCAR.EDU by gatech.edu (4.1/Gatech-9.1) id AA25833 for love-hounds; Fri, 6 Sep 91 02:17:15 EDT Received: by ncar.ucar.EDU (5.65/ NCAR Central Post Office 04/10/90) id AA25602; Fri, 6 Sep 91 00:17:12 MDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by oddjob.uchicago.edu Fri, 6 Sep 91 00:58:06 -0500 Received: by gargoyle.uchicago.edu (4.0/1.14) id AA14006; Fri, 6 Sep 91 00:58:04 CDT Received: by homebru.chi.il.us (smail2.5) id AA08270; 6 Sep 91 00:27:37 CDT (Fri) Received: by clout.chi.il.us (/\==/\ Smail3.1.22.1 #22.1) id ; Wed, 4 Sep 91 20:52 CDT Received: by chinet.chi.il.us (/\==/\ Smail3.1.22.1 #22.1) id ; Wed, 4 Sep 91 17:23 CDT Message-Id: Date: Wed, 4 Sep 91 17:24 CDT From: gatech!chinet.chi.il.us!katefans (Chris n Vickie) To: love-hounds@eddie.mit.edu Subject: Jon & Jon Oh yeah, I'm still reading. This is highly entertaining, amusing and enlightening. Keep it up guys! Vickie "she who has no 'at' sign" "Bang-a goes another kanga on the bonnet of the van" ============================================================================ Now I'm wondering why it took so long to bounce back to us. btw, I still didn't get any of the Ecto Jorn said he got. Did they bounce from us back to to people who sent them? So...computer experts....what's the deal here? Vickie katefans@chinet.chi.il.us 10-Sep-91 17:04:17-GMT,1920;000000000001 Received: from bunny.gte.com by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA27139; Tue, 10 Sep 91 13:03:59 EDT Received: by bunny.gte.com (5.61/GTEL2.17) id AA10838; Tue, 10 Sep 91 13:03:42 -0400 Date: Tue, 10 Sep 91 13:03:42 -0400 From: gb10@gte.com (Gregory Bossert) Message-Id: <9109101703.AA10838@bunny.gte.com> To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: HR & KB & JS & JM re Joni Mitchell, i agree with Jorn and Dan. some personal comments: Court & Spark is, as Jorn says, more commercial, but there are some terrifyingly effective melodies -- to borrow from the debate on LoveHounds, these are songs that can be sung a cappella in the shower... coming up with interesting melodies is a challenge for me in my own songwriting, and i've come back to C&S often to study what Joni's doing... Hejira is simply stunning. Larry Carleton and Jaco Pastorius are right on throughout. a difficult but extremely rewarding album, and my top recommendation. i can't listen to Blue anymore, but that's a different story. the lyrics are disturbingly honest; when Joni recorded this album, she had to ask people to leave the studio while she did the vocals. Shadows&Light is a virtuoso effort, and includes some of Pat Metheny's most exciting guitar work. the feel is perhaps a bit less direct and open than her studio work, but the performances are some of the most intelligent and complex ever presented as 'pop music'. i don't actually listen to Joni much anymore -- her music requires an effort from the listener, and i'd rather work at understanding new artists (like Happy!). but there is no doubt that her albums have affected the way i listen to and write music... footah! -greg -- gb10@gte.com -- "a woman drew her long black hair out tight and fiddled whisper music on those strings and bats with baby faces in the violet light whistled, and beat their wings" -- T.S. Eliot 10-Sep-91 17:10:14-GMT,1754;000000000001 Received: from [146.101.100.10] by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA27961; Tue, 10 Sep 91 13:09:57 EDT Received: from ash.stl.stc.co.uk by hedera.stl.stc.co.uk with Internal SMTP (PP) id <19910910170843-0@hedera.stl.stc.co.uk>; Tue, 10 Sep 1991 18:08:44 +0100 Date: Tue, 10 Sep 91 18:08:41 +0100 Message-Id: <0094e721d687c19a@ash.bnr.co.uk> From: Steve Fagg Subject: Re: HR & KB & JS & JM To: ecto@cs.rutgers.edu X-Vms-Mail-To: ECTO >>Any recommendations for a second album by Joni Mitchell? > >Here's my view of Joni's career (forgive all ignorant blunders): > ... stuff deleted ... >Hissing of Summer Lawns started Joni's fall from popularity, rather like TD >with Kate. It takes gorgeous chances, moving into jazz, moving away from >obsessive self-reflection. Rolling Stone hated it. It's one of the ones I >play most. and for me the most essential Joni album of them all, easily! >Don Juan's Reckless Daughter (or was Hejira next?) was a double album, >spread a bit thin. (One whole side is an instrumental improv with Latin >drums.) Several favorite songs here though: Talk to Me, Marlena (?), the >title song. as you suspected, Hejira followed immediately after Hissing of Summer Lawns >Hejira, with Joni as ice-skating crazy crow on the cover, was her 2nd peak >after Blue. Every song is strong and full of throbbing (?) longing. but an awful lot harder to get into than Hissing... I agree with Jorn that after Mingus those of her albums I've heard have been very disappointing. -- Regards Steve Fagg ( S.L.Fagg@bnr.co.uk +44-279-429531 Ext 2437 ) BNR Europe Ltd., London Road, Harlow, Essex, CM17 9NA, UK *** Vita? Nole me vitae dicere! *** 10-Sep-91 21:51:58-GMT,914;000000000001 Received: from remus.rutgers.edu by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA01025; Tue, 10 Sep 91 17:51:20 EDT Received: by remus.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA20246; Tue, 10 Sep 91 17:51:16 EDT Date: Tue, 10 Sep 91 17:51:16 EDT From: woj@remus.rutgers.edu (woj) Message-Id: <9109102151.AA20246@remus.rutgers.edu> Organization: fegmaniax anonymous, inc. To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: finding happy yup...right up there on page 93, near the top. the accompanying minireview: "for those who who are drawn to the progressive sophistication of peter gabriel, KaTe bush, or laurie anderson, _warpaint_ is a must! the fifth disc [sic] from this gifted vocalist/composer, rhodes continues to enchant and challenge with haunting imagery, vocal brilliance, and an emotional honesty second to none." neato, eh? woj@remus.rutgers.edu - smou/dj-for-hire - hooked on phonics and sonics... 11-Sep-91 0:35:13-GMT,1406;000000000001 Received: from RUTGERS.EDU by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA19888; Tue, 10 Sep 91 20:34:52 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) with UUCP id AA08296; Tue, 10 Sep 91 18:16:03 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by oddjob.uchicago.edu Tue, 10 Sep 91 15:48:30 -0500 Received: by gargoyle.uchicago.edu (4.0/1.14) id AA29972; Tue, 10 Sep 91 15:48:28 CDT Received: by chinet.chi.il.us (/\==/\ Smail3.1.22.1 #22.1) id ; Tue, 10 Sep 91 12:48 CDT Message-Id: Date: Tue, 10 Sep 91 12:49 CDT From: katefans@chinet.chi.il.us (Chris n Vickie) To: Michael (M.M.Y.) Hui , ecto@athos.rutgers.edu, love-hounds@wiretap.spies.com Cc: Mary (M.L.) Rowe , Robin (R.) Collins Subject: Re: Jane Siberry Concert Review Yeah, but I'm not worried. Whatever comes out will be magnificent on the album. One thing I've learned with Jane is that she's consistant. In 5 albums she hasn't disappointed me yet. Sure, there's always a first time, but Jane's too talented to put out an entire album I'd dislike. Sounds like it was a bad night. Too bad for the band. Maybe she'll make a lot of changes (or do more rehearsing) before the next tour. Sounds like Jane knew things weren't going well that night. Vickie katefans@chinet.chi.il.us 11-Sep-91 1:38:30-GMT,872;000000000001 Received: from RUTGERS.EDU by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA27268; Tue, 10 Sep 91 21:38:09 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) with UUCP id AA16701; Tue, 10 Sep 91 19:56:28 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by oddjob.uchicago.edu Tue, 10 Sep 91 17:48:27 -0500 Received: by gargoyle.uchicago.edu (4.0/1.14) id AA01841; Tue, 10 Sep 91 17:48:25 CDT Received: by chinet.chi.il.us (/\==/\ Smail3.1.22.1 #22.1) id ; Tue, 10 Sep 91 17:42 CDT Message-Id: Date: Tue, 10 Sep 91 17:42 CDT From: katefans@chinet.chi.il.us (Chris n Vickie) To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu, woj@remus.rutgers.edu (woj) Subject: Re: finding happy ??????? Where is this from???? Can you get me a copy of whatever it is? Or at least send me a photocopy? Vickie 11-Sep-91 1:49:05-GMT,2728;000000000001 Received: from RUTGERS.EDU by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA28738; Tue, 10 Sep 91 21:48:50 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) with UUCP id AA16705; Tue, 10 Sep 91 19:56:31 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by oddjob.uchicago.edu Tue, 10 Sep 91 17:48:30 -0500 Received: by gargoyle.uchicago.edu (4.0/1.14) id AA01844; Tue, 10 Sep 91 17:48:28 CDT Received: by chinet.chi.il.us (/\==/\ Smail3.1.22.1 #22.1) id ; Tue, 10 Sep 91 17:44 CDT Message-Id: Date: Tue, 10 Sep 91 17:44 CDT From: katefans@chinet.chi.il.us (Chris n Vickie) To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: Waking Up update etc. Vickie here. I ought to keep my mouth shut. I log on this morning and there are 23 messages waiting for me. Why they all bunch up and come at one time like that is a mystery. It's been happening the past few weeks, so it seems it might be what will happen from now on. I won't go on about my system troubles anymore, I promise. Angelos said this: > I 'll say what I hear: > 'Cobwebs, cobwebs, cob-cob-webs- it's time for a deep sweep' Your ears are very good Angelos, I just talked to Happy and I asked her about this line. It is: "Cobwebs everywhere...it's time for a deep sweep" with minor variations throughout. Jeff Burka and Angelos should get a prize for their listening perception! I goofed, heard Happy wrong or something, because she corrected me on the lines I posted earlier, the lines at the end of "Waking Up" They should be: "We're breaking out of cranium keep, we're waking up after the sleep" ^^^ ^^ Glad I asked, just to make sure. There's a great review of _Warpaint_ in the Sept. 6 issue of the _Mac Report_ which is a radio station industry magazine. I won't be able to get an actual copy but H&K will send me a photocopy of theirs. I'll of course typr it in when it comes. H&K are practising songs for the WXPN interview. The songs are set now and they will be doing stripped down versions of "Feed The Fire" "Words Weren't Made For Cowards" and "Given In" (!) so can't wait for that! They might have to cut out Given In, but I hope not. It would be great to hear an "old" song sung in Happy's more mature voice. Mitch, she was very pleased with what you wrote, about her songs being politcal. She's very politically-minded and wants some of that to come through in her songs, without being preachy. You're very perceptive! Klaus, I'll get back to you on your ideas. Jessica, do you have the negative yet? It's definitely on its way. Vickie katefans@chinet.chi.il.us PS Woj, where is that review-snippet from? What magazine? What date? 11-Sep-91 3:49:59-GMT,965;000000000001 Received: from romulus.rutgers.edu by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA09961; Tue, 10 Sep 91 23:49:44 EDT Received: by romulus.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA10847; Tue, 10 Sep 91 23:49:41 EDT Date: Tue, 10 Sep 91 23:49:41 EDT From: woj@remus.rutgers.edu Message-Id: <9109110349.AA10847@romulus.rutgers.edu> Organization: fegmaniax anonymous, inc. To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: that "snippet review" i already told vickie this, but figured that the rest of you might like to know this as well. the review is quoted is in the october issue of cd review (the one with tom petty on the cover) in the "outstanding releases" section. what i can't figure out is why this section, with a name like that, is stuffed in at the end of the magazine with small, fine print reviews, each taking up about a square inch of space, in- cluding the album art! yow... woj@remus.rutgers.edu - smou/dj-for-hire - hooked on phonics and sonics... 11-Sep-91 13:01:29-GMT,1879;000000000001 Received: from unido.Informatik.Uni-Dortmund.DE by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA01805; Wed, 11 Sep 91 09:00:42 EDT Received: from Materna-Gw.Materna.DE by unido.informatik.uni-dortmund.de with SMTP (5.65+/UNIDO-2.0.4.d) via EUnet for athos.rutgers.edu id AA29159; Wed, 11 Sep 91 14:57:03 +0200 Message-Id: <9109111257.AA09632@elwood.Materna.DE> To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Cc: kkluge@materna.de Subject: alpha-list & poll Organization: Dr. Materna GmbH Date: Wed, 11 Sep 91 14:57:48 N From: Klaus Kluge Vickie wrote: > Klaus, I went and numbered your list of Alphabetical Song Titles and > found out that there are 65 songs. Don' > itchglitchglitch! Don't know where I came up with 75 songs, I was > wrong in my early gaffa posts. Klaus, you forgot to put the Ecto B numbers > so I did that too. That list is great! Thanks again for doing it. Ooops, I really did forget those numbers. There is no reason to thank me for that list, Vickie. YOU and my text editor did all the work! I just took the titles from your list and have the editor sort them. And, you see, I even left some of the numbers for you to type in :) . It would be nice to include the running time for each song as well, but we just have them for _Warpaint_ so I left it out. We can add the time when the other albums are on CD. Re: Shiny Happy People Another question for the poll Angelos set up (did you get enough answers by now?) would have been "Favorite cover art (Happy / KaTe / Others)", but it's too late for that. _________________________________________________________ | "Tell me all the plans you have for the great beyond. | | Will you be physical again, or be a cosmic vagabond." | | --- Happy Rhodes --- | | Klaus "cosmic vagabond" Kluge kkluge@Materna.DE | 11-Sep-91 15:41:05-GMT,1211;000000000001 Received: from rutvm1.rutgers.edu by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA17926; Wed, 11 Sep 91 11:40:41 EDT Message-Id: <9109111540.AA17926@aramis.rutgers.edu> Received: from RUTVM1.RUTGERS.EDU by RutVM1.Rutgers.Edu (IBM VM SMTP R1.2.1MX) with BSMTP id 4062; Tue, 10 Sep 91 12:04:07 EDT Received: from UICVM by RUTVM1.RUTGERS.EDU (Mailer R2.08) with BSMTP id 6567; Tue, 10 Sep 91 12:04:06 EDT Received: by UICVM (Mailer R2.07) id 6943; Tue, 10 Sep 91 11:03:31 CDT Date: 10 September 1991 10:51:42 CDT From: To: Subject: The great lyric befuddlement continues Angelos writes: >I 'll say what I hear: >'Cobwebs, cobwebs, cob-cob-webs- it's time for a deep sweep' > >which kind of makes sense. Sweep away the cobwebs. > >Any takers? It doesn't sound quite right to me, based on what little I've been able to make out on the recording. It occurs to me that we may eventually have to seek an opinion from the horse's mouth. (Hmm... Happy the Horse? Sounds like something out of _Guys and Dolls_. :-) ) In the meantime, anyone else want to take a crack at it? Mitch Pravatiner (America's Walking Toastmaster General) U15289 at UICVM.UIC.EDU 11-Sep-91 15:55:09-GMT,1468;000000000001 Received: from ATHENA.MIT.EDU by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA19326; Wed, 11 Sep 91 11:54:58 EDT Received: from RCA2.MIT.EDU by ATHENA.MIT.EDU with SMTP id AA16231; Wed, 11 Sep 91 11:54:56 EDT From: kyrlidis@athena.mit.edu Received: by rca2.MIT.EDU (5.61/4.7) id AA09423; Wed, 11 Sep 91 11:54:51 -0400 Message-Id: <9109111554.AA09423@rca2.MIT.EDU> To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: Shiny _Happy_ People Poll results (part 1) Date: Wed, 11 Sep 91 11:54:47 EDT Here are the first results: Participants : 7 (I hoped for an overwhelming participation of all ectophiles but I guess most people couldn't decide on the answers and avoided the Poll :-() Average Age: 27 Favorite Happy Song: [ These would fit nicely in a Best of Happy AG CD. ] 1. Oh the Drears (26) 2. Warpaint (15) Would that I could (15) 3. Possessed (11) 4. Til the Dawn Breaks (10) To live in your world (10) 5. If love is a game, I win (5) Feed the Fire (5) Off from out from under me (5) No one here (5) 6. Poetic Justice (1) I am a legend (1) Don't want to hear it (1) In hiding (1) 7. Come Here (0.5) Under and over the brink (0.5) Favorite Happy album: 1. Ecto (3) 2. Warpaint (2) 3. Rearmament (1) All (!) (1) ============================================================================== More coming up...tomorrow. Angelos PS. I knew I heard 'Cobwebs'!!! ;-) 11-Sep-91 16:23:56-GMT,1541;000000000001 Received: from unido.Informatik.Uni-Dortmund.DE by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA23021; Wed, 11 Sep 91 12:23:49 EDT Received: from Materna-Gw.Materna.DE by unido.informatik.uni-dortmund.de with SMTP (5.65+/UNIDO-2.0.4.d) via EUnet for athos.rutgers.edu id AA20503; Wed, 11 Sep 91 18:20:17 +0200 Message-Id: <9109111621.AA10230@elwood.Materna.DE> To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Cc: kkluge@materna.de Subject: Re: 1st poll results Organization: Dr. Materna GmbH Date: Wed, 11 Sep 91 18:20:59 N From: Klaus Kluge I knew there was something I forgot. Now seeing the 1st results of the poll I remembered. It is about the weighting (10/5/1) of the poll results. Just imagine this hypothetical situation: - one person says song A is my no. 1, so it gets 10 points - but 6 people say song B is my 3rd favourite song and it will only get 7 points In my view song A then can't go into a profile for all ectophiles. I know, I'm too late to complain about that, as Angelos already put work into it, so I don't write about alternatives. I just had to mention it. Just 7 participants is really a shame. Assumably there were no more because everybody was still exhausted from the DID lists in .gaffa. ____ ______________________________ ____ ) Klaus Kluge ( work: +49 231 5599 301 ) I'll be here ( / kkluge@Materna.DE \ fax: +49 231 5599 100 / I'll be ecto \ (_______________________) home: +49 202 556781 (____________________) 12-Sep-91 4:30:57-GMT,1778;000000000001 Received: from omnigate.clarkson.edu by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA08517; Thu, 12 Sep 91 00:30:39 EDT Received: from clutx.clarkson.edu by omnigate.clarkson.edu id aa12086; 12 Sep 91 0:25 EDT Received: by clutx.clarkson.edu (5.54/5.17) id AA27825; Thu, 12 Sep 91 00:25:24 EDT Date: Thu, 12 Sep 91 00:25:24 EDT From: Stand up Mimi Message-Id: <9109120425.AA27825@clutx.clarkson.edu> To: ecto@cs.rutgers.edu Subject: The Perfect Irony It is me or does The Perfect Irony give everyone the chills...talk about political statements!!! This song reminds me of a little essay by Amiri Baraka about money and the different things it means to different people. I think Happy makes a powerful statement in this song....you can tell me that money will make me happy in your reality but in mine it is something that only serves as sustinance not what shapes or moves me. I sometimes think we should thank Happy for being courageous enough to say all the things the conservatives dont want to hear, but then they couldnt hear it anyway.....cause they think with their mouths. I guess I alwasy realized that Happy was making a statement esp. visable in Wrong Century and Words Werent MAde for Cowards to name only a few. (geez sorry bout all the typos misspellings...uggh :)) I mean as Jessica knows from my WC related painting what kind of message Wrong Century means to me....harmony to unrecognizable chaos and ugliness. I guess it's as Happy says "Im here to warn you." kIrI hargieka@clutx.clarkson.edu ---------------------------- im coming back in 500 years and the first thing im gonna do when i get back here is to see these things that i love and they'd better be here...Jane -------------------------------- 12-Sep-91 10:52:45-GMT,1411;000000000001 Received: from unido.Informatik.Uni-Dortmund.DE by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA12097; Thu, 12 Sep 91 06:52:19 EDT Received: from Materna-Gw.Materna.DE by unido.informatik.uni-dortmund.de with SMTP (5.65+/UNIDO-2.0.4.d) via EUnet for athos.rutgers.edu id AA05197; Thu, 12 Sep 91 12:48:43 +0200 Message-Id: <9109121049.AA13206@elwood.Materna.DE> To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Cc: kkluge@materna.de Subject: Happy & .gaffa Organization: Dr. Materna GmbH Date: Thu, 12 Sep 91 12:49:29 N From: Klaus Kluge Honourable Ectophiles, the word is spreading. I've just got a message from a guy in England who noticed my Happy-signature in a posting in .gaffa, asking how to get the _Warpaint_ CD. I took the freedom to send him Vickie's FAQ-prototype (hope you don't mind) with the addition from Jessica. I've also invited him to join 'Ecto - The Mailing List' for more info and discussion. BTW, is the number of Ecto-subscribers still growing or is it stagnating? So there are still people in .gaffa who are interested in Happy. _________________________________________________________ | "Tell me all the plans you have for the great beyond. | | Will you be physical again, or be a cosmic vagabond." | | --- Happy Rhodes --- | | Klaus "cosmic vagabond" Kluge kkluge@Materna.DE | 13-Sep-91 0:12:24-GMT,1120;000000000001 Received: from accuvax.nwu.edu by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA03276; Thu, 12 Sep 91 20:11:58 EDT Received: from silver.chem.nwu.edu by accuvax.nwu.edu (5.65+/1.34) id AA08613; Thu, 12 Sep 91 19:11:44 -0500 Received: from stella.chem.nwu.edu by silver.chem.nwu.edu (5.52/90.5.1.SDD) (for ecto@athos.RUTGERS.EDU) id AA11551; Thu, 12 Sep 91 17:44:35 CDT Received: by chem.nwu.edu (1.1/901020.SDD) (for @silver.chem.nwu.edu:ecto@athos.rutgers.edu) id AA01827; Thu, 12 Sep 91 17:44:44 CDT Date: Thu, 12 Sep 91 17:44:44 CDT From: stern@chem.nwu.edu (Charlotte Stern) Message-Id: <9109122244.AA01827@chem.nwu.edu> To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: joni m My two favorite Joni Mitchell albums are Clouds and Lady of the Canyon. Basically all of her early stuff thru Blue is classic; then she got more into a jazz mode, climaxing with mingus (I never really got into that part myself). [Court and Spark is also great; that might have come out after Blue.] Her latest stuff (after mingus) has been less than exciting, though the bits I heard of NRH were ok. Her voice has also suffered some. -mjm 13-Sep-91 0:36:59-GMT,4156;000000000001 Received: from RUTGERS.EDU by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA04590; Thu, 12 Sep 91 20:36:45 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) with UUCP id AA05178; Thu, 12 Sep 91 19:38:42 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by oddjob.uchicago.edu Thu, 12 Sep 91 18:09:31 -0500 Received: by gargoyle.uchicago.edu (4.0/1.14) id AA08657; Thu, 12 Sep 91 18:09:29 CDT Received: by chinet.chi.il.us (/\==/\ Smail3.1.22.1 #22.1) id ; Thu, 12 Sep 91 02:50 CDT Message-Id: Date: Thu, 12 Sep 91 02:50 CDT From: katefans@chinet.chi.il.us (Chris n Vickie) To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: Ecto SIG Vickie here. Thanks for the poll results Angelos. I'm sorry more people didn't take part, but one possibility is that lots of Ectophiles don't have all the albums yet, and didn't feel they could post their favorite songs without having heard everything. > Favorite Happy Song: [ These would fit nicely in a Best of Happy AG CD. ] I agree! I love this list! > 1. Oh the Drears (26) > 2. Warpaint (15) > Would that I could (15) > 3. Possessed (11) > 4. Til the Dawn Breaks (10) > To live in your world (10) > 5. If love is a game, I win (5) > Feed the Fire (5) > Off from out from under me (5) > No one here (5) > 6. Poetic Justice (1) > I am a legend (1) > Don't want to hear it (1) > In hiding (1) > 7. Come Here (0.5) > Under and over the brink (0.5) When I saw this list my first thought was "Drears is #1...great!" My second thought was "I'd love to do a show based on this list" My third thought was "I just did 2 Happy specials not very long ago" Which led to the idea currently rattling around in my brain. I'll do a show, not for airplay, but for the people here on Ecto! I would tape it exactly as if it were for broadcast, but make it more personalized, speaking to you people. You'll be my audience! Besides playing the above songs, in the order presented, I can also throw in a few suprises. I don't know how long the show will be yet. The first thing I have to do is tape these songs and see how much time they take, then allow time for other things. It might be a 90 minute or possibly even 2 hour show. 90 minutes seems most likely. So? How many people would be interested in getting a copy of this Ecto SIG? I suppose an easy way to distribute it would be to ask for you to send a blank tape, along with enough stamps for the return postage. There's no charge, of course, but it would help me to not have to pay out a lot of money for blank tapes and postage. I'll figure out something different for overseas Ectophiles, because it seems somewhat silly to ask you faraway shore folks to send a blank tape across the Big Pond. So. I need to know how many of you want in on this. 2? 10? 25? Let me know as soon as possible so I can get an idea of the scope of this. Happy news: "Feed The Fire" has been #1 at WXPN in Philly for 5 weeks! The possibility of Happy going to Philly to do an in-store is stronger now. I made Kevin promise that he would keep me informed so I can pass along the word to you all who live near there. The mention in CD Review is actually an ad that Happy and Kevin paid for. Kevin wrote the copy. The album will hopefully be getting a "real" review at some point, though they seem to have a huge lag time on their reviews. Thanks for the offer woj, but now that I know where the snippet came from, we'll go out and buy a copy of the magazine. I _finally_ received the things I ordered weeks ago. I think maybe that makes me the first person in history to have a Happy Rhodes T-shirt :-) It came out very well, but now I don't want to wear it. My luck, it will wrinkle terribly the first time I wash it. The poster came out fairly well, Chris said "My, that's BIG!" (it's 24"x 36") but it is a bit grainy. It looks best when you view it at a distance. I also, as an extra added bonus, got a Happy photo keychain. Maybe at some point here we can have a merchandising line set up. Hey, yeah, *I* want a Happy lunch box! Vickie katefans@chinet.chi.il.us 13-Sep-91 1:16:50-GMT,1151;000000000001 Received: from omnigate.clarkson.edu by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA08391; Thu, 12 Sep 91 21:16:22 EDT Received: from clutx.clarkson.edu by omnigate.clarkson.edu id aa21401; 12 Sep 91 20:59 EDT Received: by clutx.clarkson.edu (5.54/5.17) id AA18351; Thu, 12 Sep 91 20:59:28 EDT Date: Thu, 12 Sep 91 20:59:28 EDT From: Stand up Mimi Message-Id: <9109130059.AA18351@clutx.clarkson.edu> To: ecto@cs.rutgers.edu Subject: ectosig Id love a copy Vickmeister!!! Tonight is my first radio show...anybody in potsdam (madstop) at 11p thurs can catch it...hahaha....anyway Im doing what may be a regular thing for the next couple of weeks...The Happy Half Hour...heheh tonight im playing perfect irong, wrong cent, i am a leg, would that i could, off from out, oh the drears, words wmfc, step inside, and one alien..Im also doing a 15 min or so Mouth Music bonanza :) Im trying to get ppl psyched for 'Susp in Gaffa' ( coming soon i hope :) ) wait is this possible in potsdam -hmmm... toots all....the rest of rear and ecto is coming tomorrow for real :) KiRi hargieka@clutx.clarkson.edu 13-Sep-91 2:02:40-GMT,1098;000000000001 Received: from natinst.com by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA11800; Thu, 12 Sep 91 22:02:24 EDT Received: by natinst.com id AA25301 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ecto@athos.rutgers.edu); Thu, 12 Sep 1991 21:02:20 -0500 Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1991 21:02:20 -0500 From: Brian Bloom Message-Id: <199109130202.AA25301@natinst.com> To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu, katefans@chinet.chi.il.us Subject: Re: Ecto SIG Oooh oooh sign me up! A Happy Sampler! (Even a cool name for it!) Or.. Have a Happy day! Anyway... count me in... __ ____ __ ____ __ __ (__==__) /\ \ / \_\ / /\ / \ \ / |\ / /\ (oo) ( moo.) / \_\ / /\ |_| / / /| /\ \ \ / ||/ / / /-------\/ -' / /\ | |\ \/ /_/_ / / / \ \/ \ \ / |/ / / / | U.T.|| / \/ |_| \ __ \_\ /_/ / \ /\ \_\ / /| / / * ||----|| / /\ ./_/ \ \ \/_/_\_\/ \ \ \/_// / | / / ^^ ^^ \ \/ |_| \ \_\ /_/\ \ \_\ /_/ /|_/ / Br!an Bloom \__/_/ \/_/ \_\/ \/_/ \_\/ \_\/ brianb@natinst.com 13-Sep-91 2:24:35-GMT,723;000000000001 Received: from bunny.gte.com by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA13499; Thu, 12 Sep 91 22:24:23 EDT Received: by bunny.gte.com (5.61/GTEL2.17) id AA01994; Thu, 12 Sep 91 22:24:14 -0400 Date: Thu, 12 Sep 91 22:24:14 -0400 From: gb10@gte.com (Gregory Bossert) Message-Id: <9109130224.AA01994@bunny.gte.com> To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: Ecto SIG Re: the Ecto SiG: yep yep yep yep yep yep yep. please. thanky much. or as they say in the old UK: *brilliant* haftoo! -greg P.S. the KiRious one notes: > im playing perfect irong, wrong cent, i am a leg, would that i could ^^^^^^^^^^ ;-} and that "wrong cent" is a bad penny, but the ironing is perfect... 13-Sep-91 2:37:21-GMT,839;000000000001 Received: from lewhoosh.umd.edu by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA13937; Thu, 12 Sep 91 22:37:10 EDT Received: by lewhoosh.umd.edu (NeXT-1.0 (From Sendmail 5.52)/NeXT-2.0) id AA17653; Thu, 12 Sep 91 22:37:08 EDT Message-Id: <9109130237.AA17653@lewhoosh.umd.edu> To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: Ooh! Ooh! Date: Thu, 12 Sep 91 22:37:07 -0400 From: jeffy@lewhoosh.umd.edu I still haven't gotten back my copy of SiG 118 tape 4, so the Ecto SiG will occupy a special place in my collection. In other words, Vickie, YES! Count me in as one of the interested multitudes! Jeff |Jeffrey C. Burka | "Show what you are / Be strong, be true | | | Time for you to / Be who you are." | |jeffy@lewhoosh.umd.edu | --Happy Rhodes | 13-Sep-91 2:51:13-GMT,453;000000000001 Received: from athos.rutgers.edu by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA14846; Thu, 12 Sep 91 22:51:08 EDT Received: by athos.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA14204; Thu, 12 Sep 91 22:51:06 EDT Date: Thu, 12 Sep 91 22:51:06 EDT From: jessica@cs.rutgers.edu Message-Id: <9109130251.AA14204@athos.rutgers.edu> To: ecto@cs.rutgers.edu Subject: Happy SiG tape Vickie i am definitely a yes for the tape! Great idea!! jessica 13-Sep-91 3:49:32-GMT,1061;000000000001 Received: from ATHENA.MIT.EDU by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA19005; Thu, 12 Sep 91 23:49:17 EDT Received: from E40-008-8.MIT.EDU by ATHENA.MIT.EDU with SMTP id AA10738; Thu, 12 Sep 91 23:49:15 EDT From: kyrlidis@athena.mit.edu Received: by e40-008-8.MIT.EDU (5.61/4.7) id AA29419; Thu, 12 Sep 91 23:48:58 -0400 Message-Id: <9109130348.AA29419@e40-008-8.MIT.EDU> To: katefans@chinet.chi.il.us (Chris n Vickie) Cc: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Ecto SIG In-Reply-To: Your message of Thu, 12 Sep 91 02:50:00 -0500. Date: Thu, 12 Sep 91 23:48:56 EDT Vickie, You most definitely have to include me in the Suspended in _Happy_ Gaffa tape mailing list. Wait til the rest of the Poll results so you can include the favorite songs by un_Happy_ artists... _Happy_ Lunch boxes...Hmmm...Hasn't this been done before, or are they just _Happy_meals? (:-))[warning: that was a joke...] Angelos 'Ko"nnten blicken to"ten, wa"rt ihr flo"ten Krieg muss man schwa"nzen, Spiel Ohne Grenzen' - PG 13-Sep-91 7:13:30-GMT,1359;000000000001 Received: from phloem.uoregon.edu by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA14568; Fri, 13 Sep 91 03:13:14 EDT Received: from greylady.uoregon.edu by phloem.uoregon.edu (4.1/UofO NetSvc-05/01/91) id AA28288; Fri, 13 Sep 91 00:13:10 PDT Received: by greylady.uoregon.edu (5.60/SMI-4.0.1.2(JQJ)) id AA01638; Fri, 13 Sep 91 00:10:54 PDT Date: Fri, 13 Sep 91 00:10:54 PDT From: stevev@greylady.uoregon.edu (Steve VanDevender) Message-Id: <9109130710.AA01638@greylady.uoregon.edu> To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: chiming in Sorry I didn't reply to Angelos' poll, but I've been busy and the questions were way too hard to answer quickly. My favorite Happy Rhodes song is currently "For We Believe." It's calming, it's eerily beautiful, it speaks to my heart, and best of all it works as a hangover remedy :-). (Don't try this at home, kids.) I seem to be atypical, in that I also find _Rearmament_ to be my favorite album. It would be worth it just for "The Perfect Irony" and "For We Believe" but it also has more. Some of the songs are sort of duds to me, especially "Feel the Night", but I feel more compelled to listen to _Rearmament_ than any other of the first four albums. If I really had to rate them, I'd probably put Vol. I at #2, Vol. II at #3, and Ecto at #4. I will have to order _Warpaint_ soon so I can absorb it as well. 13-Sep-91 8:49:26-GMT,1696;000000000001 Received: from unido.Informatik.Uni-Dortmund.DE by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA21276; Fri, 13 Sep 91 04:48:57 EDT Received: from Materna-Gw.Materna.DE by unido.informatik.uni-dortmund.de with SMTP (5.65+/UNIDO-2.0.4.d) via EUnet for athos.rutgers.edu id AA00818; Fri, 13 Sep 91 10:45:10 +0200 Message-Id: <9109130811.AA16547@elwood.Materna.DE> To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Cc: kkluge@materna.de Subject: Ecto SiG? Yeah! Organization: Dr. Materna GmbH Date: Fri, 13 Sep 91 10:11:26 N From: Klaus Kluge First, thanks everybody for your Joni Mitchell recommendations !!! Although quite a lot of records have been pointed out, I will try to get 'Blue', as most people mentioned it. Let's hope I can find it. Vickie, an Ecto SiG would be _*GRRRRREATt*_ !!! """""""""""""" > I'll figure out something different for overseas Ectophiles, because > it seems somewhat silly to ask you faraway shore folks to send a blank > tape across the Big Pond. What _I_ could do, is to send you one of my recently aquired $20 bills, and you could direct everything above the expenses to the ecto-fund. Alright? Angelos signed with: > 'Ko"nnten blicken to"ten, wa"rt ihr flo"ten > Krieg muss man schwa"nzen, Spiel Ohne Grenzen' - PG I must confess, I only have the original version. Is KaTe doing BVs on this one as well? _________________________________________________________ | "Tell me all the plans you have for the great beyond. | | Will you be physical again, or be a cosmic vagabond." | | --- Happy Rhodes --- | | Klaus "cosmic vagabond" Kluge kkluge@Materna.DE | 13-Sep-91 13:47:44-GMT,1296;000000000011 Received: from [146.101.100.10] by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA21544; Fri, 13 Sep 91 09:46:46 EDT Received: from storax.bnr.co.uk by hedera.bnr.co.uk with Internal SMTP (PP) id <19910913134442-0@hedera.bnr.co.uk>; Fri, 13 Sep 1991 14:44:44 +0100 Received: from ash.bnr.co.uk on storax.bnr.co.uk over SMTP (5.61++/UK-2.1-MX(storax)); Fri, 13 Sep 91 14:43:46 +0100 Date: Fri, 13 Sep 91 14:43:37 +0100 Message-Id: <0094e95fd76dd800@ash.bnr.co.uk> From: Steve Fagg Subject: ecto SiG? Che? To: ecto@cs.rutgers.edu X-Vms-Mail-To: ECTO I've just received a bunch of messages from various tran-atlantic folks enthusing about an "ecto SiG", but nothing to indicate what you're all on about! So come on chaps (and chapesses), play the game, just what is an "ecto SiG" and why's everybody so keen on it??? P.S. to jessica: the address in my signature is now operational, if the mailing list is still running off the old stl.stc.co.uk address, this will stop working pretty soon, so please change it over to my new Purple identity. Thanks! -- Regards Steve Fagg ( S.L.Fagg@bnr.co.uk +44-279-429531 Ext 2437 ) BNR Europe Ltd., London Road, Harlow, Essex, CM17 9NA, UK *** Vita? Nole me vitae dicere! *** 13-Sep-91 14:53:48-GMT,1709;000000000001 Received: from ATHENA.MIT.EDU by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA28619; Fri, 13 Sep 91 10:53:25 EDT Received: from RCA2.MIT.EDU by ATHENA.MIT.EDU with SMTP id AA24316; Fri, 13 Sep 91 10:53:20 EDT From: kyrlidis@athena.mit.edu Received: by rca2.MIT.EDU (5.61/4.7) id AA11325; Fri, 13 Sep 91 10:53:14 -0400 Message-Id: <9109131453.AA11325@rca2.MIT.EDU> To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: Poll Results (Part 2) Date: Fri, 13 Sep 91 10:53:12 EDT Part 1 inspired a SiG tape. What can Part 2 bring? Favorite Female Singers: [This was SO predictable...] 1. KaTe Bush (65) 2. Happy Rhodes (30) 3. Sinead O Connor (11) 4. Jane Siberry (2) 5. Annie Lennox (1) Indigo Girls (1) Lene Lovich (1) Favorite Male Singers: 1. Peter Gabriel (35) 2. David Bowie (15) 3. John Lennon (10) Chris Thompson (10) Peter Garrett (10) 4. Billy Joel (5) Ray Charles (5) Brian Eno (5) Robbie Grey (5) Brendan Perry (5) 5. Morissey (2) 6. Al Stewart (1) Andy Partridge (1) Paul Simon (1) Cat Stevens (1) Prince (1) Favorite bands: 1. REM (20) 2. Manfred Mann's Earth Band (10) 10,000 maniacs (10) Dead Can Dance (10) Beatles (10) Jethro Tull (10) 3. Eurythmics (6) 4. Smiths (5) Rainbirds (5) Peking Man (5) Cocteau Twins (5) Police (5) 5. Velvet Underground (1) 3 Mustaphas 3 (1) B-52's (1) Genesis (1) Pretenders (1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ If you think this is diversity, wait until I type in the favorite songs... Angelos 13-Sep-91 15:37:54-GMT,606;000000000001 Received: from rpi.edu by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA03512; Fri, 13 Sep 91 11:37:28 EDT Received: from sub.aix.rpi.edu (aix.rpi.edu) by rpi.edu (4.1/SMHUB28); id AA23714; Fri, 13 Sep 91 11:36:30 EDT for ecto@cs.rutgers.edu From: Barry D. Wong Received: by sub.aix.rpi.edu (5.61-AIX-1.2/RPI-ITS-SUB10-AIX); id AA115631; Fri, 13 Sep 91 11:36:29 -0400 for ecto@cs.rutgers.edu Date: Fri, 13 Sep 91 11:36:29 -0400 Message-Id: <9109131536.AA115631@sub.aix.rpi.edu> To: ecto@cs.rutgers.edu Subject: Happy Sig tape Well, you can't count me in on the tape too! :) Barry 13-Sep-91 17:25:09-GMT,919;000000000001 Received: from eagle.wesleyan.edu by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA16782; Fri, 13 Sep 91 13:24:45 EDT Message-Id: <9109131724.AA16782@aramis.rutgers.edu> Date: 13-SEP-1991 13:19:39.18 From: MTARR@eagle.wesleyan.edu Subject: Me, too! To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Hi! Vickie, count me in. I'll send you a tape and all that... Oh- Angelos, I guess I barely missed the poll, bummer. But I was interested to see Rainbirds included in the Favorite Bands section- I didn't know they were all that known, but among *this* bunch, I don't think anything should surprise me!!! :) ================================================================================ Meredith Tarr "Oh yes I know I'm always falling, mtarr@eagle.wesleyan.edu Gazing at hazy goldfish in your swimming eyes" Wesleyan University -Kate Bush ================================================================================ 13-Sep-91 17:58:55-GMT,2126;000000000001 Received: from eagle.wesleyan.edu by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA20368; Fri, 13 Sep 91 13:58:41 EDT Message-Id: <9109131758.AA20368@aramis.rutgers.edu> Date: 13-SEP-1991 13:48:04.63 From: MTARR@eagle.wesleyan.edu Subject: Suggestions, anyone? To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu, love-hounds@wiretap.spies.com Hi all... This is an appeal for help. Valerie Nozick and I are coordinating the Amelia Earhart show on WESU-Middletown, 88.1FM this semester. Amelia Earhart is a show focusing on women's music and women's issues, and it's on every Sunday at Brunchtime (11-1 EST). It's run by a collective of female DJ's, each of whom do one or two shows during the semester, covering a variety of musical styles and subjects. WESU has a rather limited supply of "women's music" (i.e. folk and such), but the Music Director has agreed to get anything we ask for, as long as we can give him a record-company address and/or phone number. This is where you can help us. Do you know of any good music sung and/or performed by women that deserves to be spotlighted on this show? Do you have an address where we can get this stuff? Don't think you're being too elementary in your suggestions- WESU is only this year acquiring half a clue, and the record collection is rather sad. Also, we might not be thinking of someone whom we really should be thinking of! WESU is located at Wesleyan University in Middletown, CT, and serves the area from New Haven all the way up to Springfield, MA. People do look for and listen to this, one of the station's only institutions- help us give Amelia back her focus! *PLEASE* answer through e-mail only, either to myself or Val (VNOZICK@EAGLE. WESLEYAN.EDU). Arrangements can be made to trade tapes of shows for good suggestions. Thanks in advance! ================================================================================ Meredith Tarr "Oh yes I know I'm always falling, mtarr@eagle.wesleyan.edu Gazing at hazy goldfish in your swimming eyes" Wesleyan University -Kate Bush ================================================================================ 13-Sep-91 18:12:50-GMT,2089;000000000001 Received: from ccncsu.ColoState.EDU by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA22516; Fri, 13 Sep 91 14:12:33 EDT Received: from olympic.ATMOS.ColoState.EDU by ccncsu.ColoState.EDU (5.59/Ultrix2.0-B) id AA27743; Fri, 13 Sep 91 12:13:25 MDT Received: by olympic.atmos.coloState.edu (4.1/GENERIC HACK Sendmail.cf 5/24/89) id AA05871; Fri, 13 Sep 91 12:08:15 MDT Date: Fri, 13 Sep 91 12:08:15 MDT From: dbx@olympic.atmos.colostate.edu (Doug Burks) Message-Id: <9109131808.AA05871@olympic.atmos.coloState.edu> To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: Tings Greetings, First off, count me in for the Ecto SiG tape. Second, I may be a lone voice about Joni Mitchell's later albums, but I thoroughly enjoyed _Dog Eat Dog_. I haven't listened to it for a while, so I can't give any details. However, I can clearly remember the title tune, _Ethiopia_, and a strange little tune using a cigarette machine for rhythm. The album has a slew of fine songs (bending towards the political, if I remember correctly) and fine music. (Just what I need, another album I have to listen to again Real Soon Now!). Third, I tried to fill out Angelos' survey, but I always have trouble filling in a limited number of favorites. Just _three_ favorite bands, songs, etc., out of twenty-four years of fanatical (well, a few weren't so fanatical, e.g., mid-seventies) pop/rock/etc music listening? I can't do it!! However, I can't believe some of the bands/singers who were left out. Any such list has to have Creedence Clearwater Revival (best rock-n-roll band ever), the Doors, Neil Young (any of his many bands (can you name them all?)), Richard Thompson, Joni Mitchell, just to name a few from the top of my head! (Am I showing my age, or what!? The bias of the list towards the last dozen years or so is blatantly obvious! 1/2 :-) Oh, well, I'll sink into the ooze and chug my Geritol). Doug Burks _O_ dbx@olympic.atmos.colostate.edu |< She really is!! I know I'm going to type 'ecto@atmos.rutgers.edu' someday! 13-Sep-91 18:51:15-GMT,1189;000000000001 Received: from [146.101.100.10] by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA26438; Fri, 13 Sep 91 14:50:47 EDT Received: from storax.bnr.co.uk by hedera.bnr.co.uk with Internal SMTP (PP) id <19910913184936-0@hedera.bnr.co.uk>; Fri, 13 Sep 1991 19:49:37 +0100 Received: from ash.bnr.co.uk on storax.bnr.co.uk over SMTP (5.61++/UK-2.1-MX(storax)); Fri, 13 Sep 91 19:49:28 +0100 Date: Fri, 13 Sep 91 19:49:24 +0100 Message-Id: <0094e98aea13a24d@ash.bnr.co.uk> From: Steve Fagg Subject: Ecto SiG! To: ecto@cs.rutgers.edu X-Vms-Mail-To: ECTO Aha! So *that's* what all the fuss was about! Now I understand! And Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! I'd want a copy. I'd be quite happy to send a tape + some $$$ towards the trans-atlantic postage, or just enough cash for tape & postage. If anybody else in Europe is interested, I'd be willing to make copies and send them out to reduce postage costs. -- Regards Steve Fagg ( S.L.Fagg@bnr.co.uk +44-279-429531 Ext 2437 ) BNR Europe Ltd., London Road, Harlow, Essex, CM17 9NA, UK *** Vita? Nole me vitae dicere! *** 13-Sep-91 22:48:28-GMT,924;000000000011 Received: from ccncsu.ColoState.EDU by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA14256; Fri, 13 Sep 91 18:48:10 EDT Received: from olympic.ATMOS.ColoState.EDU by ccncsu.ColoState.EDU (5.59/Ultrix2.0-B) id AA00196; Fri, 13 Sep 91 16:49:08 MDT Received: by olympic.atmos.coloState.edu (4.1/GENERIC HACK Sendmail.cf 5/24/89) id AA10145; Fri, 13 Sep 91 16:43:56 MDT Date: Fri, 13 Sep 91 16:43:56 MDT From: dbx@olympic.atmos.colostate.edu (Doug Burks) Message-Id: <9109132243.AA10145@olympic.atmos.coloState.edu> To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: Ecto: The Archive Site Greetings, Has _Ecto: The Archive Site_ been moved off athos, or am I just brainless today? I tried athos.rutgers.edu [128.6.4.4], but I could find no pub/hr directory or anything like it. Anyone have the scoop? Doug Burks _O_ dbx@olympic.atmos.colostate.edu |< She really is!! 14-Sep-91 4:08:48-GMT,1565;000000000001 Received: from athos.rutgers.edu by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA03194; Sat, 14 Sep 91 00:08:27 EDT Received: by athos.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA16534; Sat, 14 Sep 91 00:08:18 EDT Date: Sat, 14 Sep 91 0:08:17 EDT From: jessica To: dbx@olympic.atmos.colostate.edu (Doug Burks) Cc: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Ecto: The Archive Site In-Reply-To: Your message of Fri, 13 Sep 91 16:43:56 MDT Message-Id: argh!!! How incredibly obnoxious. Roy Marantz (systems person here) decides to clean up athos' ftp area. the hr directory is *obviosuly* (i shoudl say *was*) currently being used - dates in there are mostly very recent!!!! I don't tihnk he even *looked*. If he didn't know what it was, he removed it. He's not the usual administrator (Don is on vacation) so of course he had no idea what "hr" was, so he removed it. He cleaned stuff up, *then* posted a very vague message saying that if we were missing anything from the ftp area to ask for a restore. So, it'll be restored, thank goodness, but i am mildly annoyed! Anyway, that's what happened to the archive area.... it'll be back within 24 hours.. jessica || jessica || It is this that || Don't try to tell me there's no reason for || || lawrence || brings us || any moment in time, every memory of mine. || || koeppel || together. || Those years are lines of color on my face, || || dembski || --Kate || the past is warpaint. --Happy Rhodes || 14-Sep-91 7:22:28-GMT,920;000000000001 Received: from rutvm1.rutgers.edu by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA18892; Sat, 14 Sep 91 03:22:06 EDT Message-Id: <9109140722.AA18892@aramis.rutgers.edu> Received: from RUTVM1.RUTGERS.EDU by RutVM1.Rutgers.Edu (IBM VM SMTP R1.2.1MX) with BSMTP id 7265; Fri, 13 Sep 91 14:40:42 EDT Received: from UICVM by RUTVM1.RUTGERS.EDU (Mailer R2.08) with BSMTP id 6986; Fri, 13 Sep 91 14:40:41 EDT Received: by UICVM (Mailer R2.07) id 9326; Fri, 13 Sep 91 13:39:41 CDT Date: 13 September 1991 13:34:59 CDT From: To: Subject: The tape I, too would be interested in a tape. I know we'll all hear more on this as it is revealed. Mitch Pravatiner _______________________________________________________________________________ "The past is prologue."--Shakespeare "The past is warpaint."--Rhodes THEREFORE: Is warpaint prologue, or is prologue warpaint? 15-Sep-91 0:40:44-GMT,2226;000000000001 Received: from RUTGERS.EDU by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA13084; Sat, 14 Sep 91 20:39:54 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) with UUCP id AA09584; Sat, 14 Sep 91 20:20:34 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by oddjob.uchicago.edu Sat, 14 Sep 91 17:54:41 -0500 Received: by gargoyle.uchicago.edu (4.0/1.14) id AA20272; Sat, 14 Sep 91 17:54:39 CDT Received: by chinet.chi.il.us (/\==/\ Smail3.1.22.1 #22.1) id ; Sat, 14 Sep 91 06:08 CDT Message-Id: Date: Sat, 14 Sep 91 06:08 CDT From: katefans@chinet.chi.il.us (Chris n Vickie) To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: My address... Oooops, I forgot to give my snail-mail address in my last post. Tis... Vickie Mapes 1627 W. Farwell, #2N Chicago, IL 60626 USofA Is that German quote "Games Without Frontiers?" If so (obviously I speak no German) then yes, Klaus, Kate does sing on it. Or at least, on the English version she does. Does Peter use her for the German version? I used to have that album and haven't been able to find it for years, so my memory is rusty. Just a thought, since Joni and Peter have both been mentioned here, they duet on the song "My Secret Place" on her _Chalkmarks in the Rain_ LP. The song is interesting (the lyrics are shades of "Under The Ivy" by Kate) but athe way they blend their voices is fascinating! It's *very* hard to tell where one leaves off and the other begins, they often finish sentences for each other and the mix is...kind of eerie actually. Eerie because I'm such a huge Peter Gabriel fan, have listened to his voice for nearly 20 years now (we'll chug Geritol together, Doug!) and I _still_ had trouble, had to listen extremely carefully, to pick out his voice. H&K are very big Joni Mitchell fans. Happy just sent me a tape with her favorite songs from _Night Ride Home_, which she said was uneven, but liked some songs very much (the ones she sent me). Jessica, can we have an updated list of Ectophiles? Er, may we have an updated list? I got requests from people I didn't know were Ectophiles. Welcome to Rodney, Justin and Brian!!!!! Vickie katefans@chinet.chi.il.us 15-Sep-91 0:46:51-GMT,3980;000000000001 Received: from RUTGERS.EDU by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA13519; Sat, 14 Sep 91 20:46:00 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) with UUCP id AA09581; Sat, 14 Sep 91 20:20:34 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by oddjob.uchicago.edu Sat, 14 Sep 91 17:54:38 -0500 Received: by gargoyle.uchicago.edu (4.0/1.14) id AA20269; Sat, 14 Sep 91 17:54:37 CDT Received: by chinet.chi.il.us (/\==/\ Smail3.1.22.1 #22.1) id ; Sat, 14 Sep 91 06:06 CDT Message-Id: Date: Sat, 14 Sep 91 06:06 CDT From: katefans@chinet.chi.il.us (Chris n Vickie) To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Ecto SIG Vickie here. I've gotten a great response to my posting about the show! 15 so far and counting. North American Ectophiles can send me tapes starting anytime. I'm going to ask you to send 2 90 minute tapes. No, I don't think the show will be that long :-) but I want to have the room, just in case. If I don't use the extra tape for anything, I'll send it back to you, but I might end up putting _something_ on it anyway, I don't know what. The time will be tight. I recorded my theme song and all the songs on the list, and only had 15 minutes to spare. That leaves very little time for me talking (which I won't do very much of anyway) and very little time for any of the "suprises" I can slip in. I'd ask for a 100 minute tape, but those are hard to find in some places. Ideally, a 120 would be perfect, but those are even harder to find, so 2 90s might be best. I'll work it out. I'm really psyched for this! Klaus and Steve, send whatever you want. You two are the only faraway shore folks who have responded, and I'll take you up on your offers. Barry, I assume you *do* want the tape :-) Anybody else? Jessica, what were the suggestions for the FAQ you had in mind. Jorn just committed me to posting in gaffa, so I need to make any changes soon. Kirstin, SIG P1 (Potsdam #1) is coming very soon. Really! Gee, this might get confusing. I'm up to SIG KC174 (not accurate, 'cos I stopped counting for a while there, til I came to my senses) and SIG C54, (Kansas City and Chicago, for those new people not familiar with my radio bio). btw, my favorite album covers are: Kate...The Dreaming Happy..Rearmament Other..Macalla (a group of 23 Irish women who are fantastic. The cover is something I've only seen once. A friend brought it and let me tape it then went and moved to Los Angeles on me. I haven't seen the cover in 4 years, but it's still quite vivid in my mind. Multi-colored paisly sort-of. I have *lots* of other favorite album covers, but that always comes to mind whenever I think of great covers. Klaus, Bobby did it! Really, don't pay attention to what you heard. Even if you *think* it's true, it might not be. Twin Peaks is WONDERFUL!! Chris and I have *every single episode* on tape and love to do marathons. Lots of people fell by the wayside as the series progressed, but the hard-core fans (like us) stuck with it 'till the very (fine) end. It's not over yet though! There's still a movie in filming. Basically, the secret is to forget about the murder mystery, picking up clues is fun and interesting, but the point is the atmosphere, the acting (well, most of them anyway), the sets, the details, the scenery, the music (YES!), the mood, the weirdness, the bizarreness, the wackyness, the quotes, the references, the creepyness, the strangeness of it all. I could keep going, but I think I've made my point. Laura's murder is the *least* interesting thing about TP, IMHO! Enjoy, you've got a long way to go, lots of wonderful things to experience and whatever you do _don't miss an episode_ if you can help it! TP is what VCR timers were invented for! Uh Oh, I just wrote all of that on-line and just realized that I'm answering in the wrong newsgroup. Ooops! Vickie chinet.chi.il.us "We let the weirdness in" 15-Sep-91 2:27:59-GMT,2573;000000000001 Received: from athos.rutgers.edu by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA21699; Sat, 14 Sep 91 22:27:27 EDT Received: by athos.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA05283; Sat, 14 Sep 91 22:27:23 EDT Date: Sat, 14 Sep 91 22:27:23 EDT From: jessica@cs.rutgers.edu Message-Id: <9109150227.AA05283@athos.rutgers.edu> To: ecto@cs.rutgers.edu Subject: we are: Vickie asks who we are now, and well, here we are: (all 49 of us!!) steiner@bakerst.rutgers.edu (Dave Steiner) jessica@athos.rutgers.edu (jessica) dembski@remus.rutgers.edu (Joseph Dembski) jeffy@lewhoosh.umd.edu (Jeff Burka) dnb@meshugge.media.mit.edu (David N. Blank) art@cs.sfu.ca (Art Liestman) U15289@uicvm.bitnet (Mitch Pravatiner) awphili@cs.vu.nl (Albert Philipsen) lcliffor@cc7.bbn.com (Laura Clifford) katefans@chinet.chi.il.us (Vickie Mapes and Chris Williams) hargieka@clutx.clarkson.edu (Kirstin Hargie) stern@chem.nwu.edu (Mike Mendelson) tara@melodian.cs.uiuc.edu (Tara Madhyastha) tj@cs.ucla.edu (Tom Johnson) stevev@greylady.uoregon.edu (Steve VanDevender) daniels@xstor.com (Daniel Segel) kyrlidis@athena.mit.edu (Angelos Kyrlidis) kkluge@Materna.DE (Klaus Kluge) dbx@olympic.atmos.colostate.edu (Doug Burks) jlueck@nuacvm.acns.nwu.edu (Jeff Lueck) py64725@cc.tut.fi (Perttu Yli-Krekola) sofmac@athos.rutgers.edu (Sofus Macskassy) cmfb@lotus.cray.com (Chris Bone) relph@presto.ig.com (John M. Relph) gb10@gte.com (Gregory Bossert) shark@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Jeanne B Schreiter) wong1@rpi.edu (Barry Wong) sean@s.ms.uky.edu (Sean Casey) woj@remus.rutgers.edu (Rob Woiccak) jsjea2@alaska.bitnet beez@remus.rutgers.edu (Kevin Bartlett) torok@nynexst.com (Dave Torok) lubkin@apollo.hp.com (David Lubkin) S.L.Fagg@bnr.co.uk (Steve Fagg) barger@ils.nwu.edu (Jorn Barger) mas@bucsf.bu.edu (Mark A. Semich) L-H@cup.portal.com (Larry Hernandez) brianb@natinst.com (Brian Bloom) gsady@gaffa.intel.com (Gene Sady) myhui@bnr.ca (Michael Hui) dsr@lns598.tn.cornell.edu (Dan Riley) rodneys@apple.com (Rodney Somerstein) Sammy.Tao@speech1.cs.cmu.edu (Sammy Tao) MTARR@eagle.wesleyan.edu (Meredith Tarr) rjk1@cec1.wustl.edu (Bob Kollmeyer) drk@leland.stanford.edu (David Koehler) justin@crim.ca (Justin Bur) spt1@ukc.ac.uk (Stephen Thomas) jessica 15-Sep-91 18:23:29-GMT,2080;000000000001 Received: from ATHENA.MIT.EDU by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA20936; Sun, 15 Sep 91 14:22:53 EDT Received: from RCA2.MIT.EDU by ATHENA.MIT.EDU with SMTP id AA04467; Sun, 15 Sep 91 14:22:52 EDT From: kyrlidis@athena.mit.edu Received: by rca2.MIT.EDU (5.61/4.7) id AA13063; Sun, 15 Sep 91 14:22:46 -0400 Message-Id: <9109151822.AA13063@rca2.MIT.EDU> To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: Ecto Poll Results (part 3) Date: Sun, 15 Sep 91 14:22:44 EDT Here we go again...For those of you still interested, and those who aren't the third installment of my Poll results is here. Favorite Song: 1. Get out of my house - KaTe Bush (15) 2. Night of the Swallow - KaTe Bush (11) 3. Up the Hill Backwards - David Bowie (10) Running up that hill - KaTe Bush (10) There goes a tenner - KaTe Bush (10) The ninth wave - KaTe Bush (10) Sat in your lap - KaTe Bush (10) 4. Sign o' the times - Prince (5) To live in yur world - Happy Rhodes (5) Ornaments of gold - Siouxsie et. al. (5) San Jacinto - Peter Gabriel (5) Revolution - The Beatles (5) Feed the fire - Happy Rhodes (5) 5. Bohemian Rhapsody - Queen (1) Real - Rainbirds (1) Rock Lobster - B-52's (1) Oh the Drears - Happy Rhodes (1) It's not easy being green - Ray Charles (1) Wind Up - Jethro Tull (1) [ and the winner is.... Can you say KTB?? Is ecto a l-h spin-off or what?] Favorite Album: 1. The Dreaming - KaTe Bush (45) 2. Hounds of Love - KaTe Bush (30) 3. Warpaint - Happy Rhodes (6) 4. 3 - Peter Gabriel (5) Shaking the Tree - Peter Gabriel (5) Touch - Sarah McLachlan (5) The Walking - Jane Siberry (5) Abbey Road - The Beatles (5) 5. Out of Time - REM (1) Before and after science - Brian Eno (1) Two faces - Rainbirds (1) Life's too good - Sugarcubes (1) Security - Peter Gabriel (1) Reamament - Happy Rhodes (1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Enough for now, Angelos 15-Sep-91 18:49:41-GMT,1920;000000000001 Received: from eagle.wesleyan.edu by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA22582; Sun, 15 Sep 91 14:49:34 EDT Message-Id: <9109151849.AA22582@aramis.rutgers.edu> Date: 15-SEP-1991 14:41:31.83 From: MTARR@eagle.wesleyan.edu Subject: Deutsche Alben To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Hi! Vickie and Klaus, KaTe still sings backup (en Francais) for "Spiele ohne Grenzen". That's on "Ein Deutsches Album" (A German Album), which was released in German-speaking places at the same time as "Deutsches Album" (German Album). I think that was in '87. The lyrics have in spots been changed, whether that was a neccesity in the translation or only to preserve the meter I'm not sure. And woj seems to think the mixes are a bit different on a few tracks, too... but since I don't own "Shock The Monkey" in its original incarnation, I wouldn't know. Klaus, if you want these, WOM has them (but Zweitausendeins in Frankfurt and Muenchen has them much cheaper sometimes). And Saturn Hansa too, at least in Muenchen. Cheaper than WOM, but then again, everything is! :) In reponse to the Poll Part 3- we all have similar tastes, don't we? :) But to put my two cents in, my favorite Happy song is "Words Were Not Made For Cowards" at the moment... and to tell the truth, "The Drears" does nothing for me at all... but that's just me. :) To all of you who have sent suggestions for Amelia Earhart- Val and I thank you. Keep 'em coming! I've tried to send personal responses, but all but one have boinged right back at me more than once. Sorry. Look for a blank tape from me realsoonnow, Vickie! ================================================================================ Meredith Tarr "Oh yes I know I'm always falling, mtarr@eagle.wesleyan.edu Gazing at hazy goldfish in your swimming eyes" Wesleyan University -Kate Bush ================================================================================ 15-Sep-91 19:05:41-GMT,1791;000000000001 Received: from ATHENA.MIT.EDU by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA23991; Sun, 15 Sep 91 15:05:30 EDT Received: from RCA2.MIT.EDU by ATHENA.MIT.EDU with SMTP id AA05560; Sun, 15 Sep 91 15:05:29 EDT From: kyrlidis@athena.mit.edu Received: by rca2.MIT.EDU (5.61/4.7) id AA13094; Sun, 15 Sep 91 15:05:23 -0400 Message-Id: <9109151905.AA13094@rca2.MIT.EDU> To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: PG's deutshes stuff Date: Sun, 15 Sep 91 15:05:20 EDT Hi, Meredith writes: > And woj seems to think the mixes are a bit different on a few >tracks, too... but since I don't own "Shock The Monkey" in its original >incarnation, I wouldn't know. I believe that most songs on 'Ein Deutsches Album' (3 auf deutsch) ARE remixed. The most obvious difference is in 'Biko', where the intro and outro(?) are totally different. I almost bought 4 auf deutsch when I was in London but decided to go for Lene Lovich's STIFF YEARS collection. I didn't know that Rhinodisc would re-release _Stateless_ and _Flex_ including most of the obscurities found in _Stiff Years_ as bonus tracks... BTW, where on earth is 'Hier kommt die Flut' from? I've heard raves about this, but I don't remember where it's supposed to be. Angelos +-------------------------------------------------------+---------------------+ | 'Culture shocked eyes that hide the fears |...go into the garden| | Eroded cheeks from acid tears | go under the ivy | | Where every smile escapes my face | under the leaves | | To seek refuge in a happier place' | away from the party | +-------------------------------------------------------+---------------------+ | hApPy RhOdEs 'Possessed'| KaTe Bush | +-------------------------------------------------------+---------------------+