Errors-To: ecto-owner@ns1.rutgers.edu Reply-To: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu Sender: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu From: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu To: ecto-request@ns1.rutgers.edu Bcc: ecto-digest-outbound@ns1.rutgers.edu Subject: ecto #827 ecto, Number 827 Tuesday, 26 October 1993 Today's Topics: *-----------------* Mercedes Lackey, and Happy sampling Re: More random noise album couvert pc joke siamese sarahs happy in kansas, et.al. A subject by any other name would smell as sweet. I'm so happy, got Happy! black cherry cowboys Story Attack she's a rebel Rocky Versus the Election Mercedes Lackey Stuff, etc. Polish Music Two points of possible interest... (No Happy content) Re: Ecto: Threat or Menace? Re: Dead Can Dance and Margot ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 25 Oct 93 18:23:32 -0400 From: jcorry@emoryu1.cc.emory.edu (Jeremy J. Corry) Subject: Mercedes Lackey, and Happy sampling NonHappy: Does anyone know about the Mercedes Lackey "thing" on GEnie? I would like to know if it is a listserve, roundtable, forum, or whateverm in order to ascertain if I can get access to it through the internet. Any info you have will be helpful. Happy1: Seeing as Happy is a big science fiction fan, does anyone know if she has read Mercedes Lackey? Happy2: I have wanted to ask this for a long time. I have a cd-rom game called The 7th Guest. It is really great and cerebral. The music has one small section that sounds a great deal like something from a Happy song. I haven't taken the time to figure out which one, or exactly how similar it is. Does anyone else have this game, and has anyone noticed the similarity? It might be the first time Happy was sampled on a commercial product! That's all! Jeremy p.s. send info on ML to me by e-mail to avoid using up band-width, thanks. ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 25 Oct 93 18:39 EDT From: robert@deepspace.nj00802.sai.com (Robert Lovejoy) Subject: Re: More random noise U15289 bitnets: > To: > Subject: More random noise > > Bob the linguist says: > > > Y'all have a great weekend, enjoy the music, and hoa binh! > > It having been a couple of years since _China Beach_ got cancelled, I'm at > a loss to translate the Vietnamese catchphrase. What's it mean? > > Mitch Sorry to have been oblique. It means "Peace". And peace to all of you! Bob ======================================================================== Date: 25 Oct 93 16:30:17 EDT From: Mike Mendelson Subject: album couvert |Do you count pop artists as famous? Christie Brinkley painted the cover art of Billy Joel's latest album... and she's pretty famous. [did anybody see the PBS special showing how BJ created this album? it was great and I'm sure it'll be repeated... watch for it. it's fascinating to watch even if you're not a big BJ fan] -mjm ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 25 Oct 93 20:22:47 EDT From: woj@remus.rutgers.edu (dressed to ingest) Subject: pc joke >My family and I were having dinner at a local mall, and I decided to >have ice cream for dessert. At the Laura Secord's I noticed that the >name of my favorite ice cream -- the one with the rich, deep red >cherries -- had been changed from Burgundy Cherry to Bordeaux Cherry. >On commenting on this to the cashier, she told me that it was >originally called "black cherry," but the store used to get a number >of nasty comments about racism, and changed the name to "Burgundy >Cherry." They _STILL_ were getting complaints at this, so they >changed it again the "Bordeaux," which hopefully had absolutely no >connotations to anyone. > >Jeepers. Next time I'll order "cherry ice cream of colour." > >-- >Dan McCrackin >Dept. of Electrical and Computer Engineering sorry, i couldn't resist. ;) +woj ======================================================================== Date: 25 Oct 93 16:30:45 EDT From: Mike Mendelson Subject: |Mike Mendelson sez: |>I'm shocked. The Borders store in Northbrook is right |>across from Barnes and Noble. B&N is easily a better bookstore, |>and the music section of Borders is pathetically understocked, |>and hideously over-priced ($15.99, $16.99, etc.). | |greg, jess and i stopped at the one in east brunswick a few nights |ago. i wouldn't say i was overwhelmed by the store, but it's a good |one nonetheless (the woman in line ahead of me was overwhelemed). |we talked to the clerk about music and he told us that this store |was planning on expanding its cafe and building a new section for |music. they were going to concentrate on jazz and classical music |with a small pop section though - maybe that's why you thought it |was understocked, mjm? Well, from what I remember, there didn't seem to be any section of the store with an outstanding collection of any type of music. And certainly everything was overpriced. Tower may only be slightly cheaper, but they do cover more ground than any other store I've seen, and that is in *all* areas (including Jazz,Blues,Classical,pop,imports, international,local,etc.etc.). And they always have specials and sales. |Mike Mendelson sez: |>It's as if there two Sarah's: the dreamy imaginary Sarah that |>did Touch, and the earthly, real Sarah, who's done her other stuff. | |this is an important point - one of the things that i love so much |about _solace_ is that it really is her first *real* album. _touch_ |is still great in my book, but it's not as much sarah as it is sarah |being someone else. i'll shy from saying KaTe-wannabee because she's |not trying to be KaTe, but she certainly is emulating her. Well, I can't leave this one alone. Sarah has never reminded of Kate in any way, neither on Touch, nor on Solace. (Certain parts of Solace sound just like Sinead, however.) I would not even say emulating. Melody-wise, accompaniment-wise, miles apart from Kate. The only likeness is they both sing in high voices. I'm surprised to hear you say this reminds you of Kate. In fact, I'm shocked. Further, my point is not that Touch is not a *real* album. Just that it comes from a, surreal (for lack of better word) Sarah; but I refuse to remove the artist from the art. It still is Sarah, and it is *Sarah*'s genius. Certainly Kate Bush, or others, have produced songs from somewhere inside them that could be termed similarly removed, perhpas, from their "earthly" personas, but it's nonetheless *their* genius at work every bit as much. Is Sarah trying to *be* somebody else? What does this really mean? I reject the theory that she's copying Kate. Maybe you can be more specific. What songs on Touch recall which Bush songs for you? Why? Did Sarah feel the need to suppress her everyday musical leanings to project some otherly image onto the record? I'm not so sure I agree. Artists change their methods, approaches, sound, everything, all the time, and certainly from disk to disk. Would you say by the same token the Lion & Cobra was the only *real* Sinead disk and that she suppressed her *real* musical self to create the later disks? |on _solace_, |she got away from that and her own genius is shining through. No, Touch is every bit as much her *own* genius. -mjm ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 25 Oct 93 21:14:59 EDT From: woj@remus.rutgers.edu (dressed to ingest) Subject: siamese sarahs i sez: >|i'll shy from saying KaTe-wannabee because she's >|not trying to be KaTe, but she certainly is emulating her. Mike Mendelson sez: >Well, I can't leave this one alone. Sarah has never reminded of >Kate in any way, neither on Touch, nor on Solace. (Certain >parts of Solace sound just like Sinead, however.) I would not >even say emulating. Melody-wise, accompaniment-wise, miles >apart from Kate. The only likeness is they both sing in high voices. >I'm surprised to hear you say this reminds you of Kate. >In fact, I'm shocked. oh, come now, mjm. i said sarah was emulating KaTe, not her music (i know, it's a picky point, but it was what i intended). sarah's first album is not a copycat release by any means - as you so ably point out, the musical differences between her and KaTe are great. however, i think it's safe to say that sarah was inspired by KaTe (and peter gabriel, for that matter) (i believe that sarah has said as much, though i can't quote paragraph and verse from the book of sarah) and that's part of what drove her to become a singer and songwriter (her voice, of course, is a good enough reason to become a singer too ;) this doesn't detract from the album by any means, but i truly feel that _solace_ is a much better characterization of what sarah is musically. >Further, my point is not that Touch is not a *real* album. >Just that it comes from a, surreal (for lack of better word) Sarah; starting to sound like jorn there, ay? ;) (kidding!) +woj ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 25 Oct 93 21:48:42 EDT From: woj@remus.rutgers.edu (dressed to ingest) Subject: happy in kansas, et.al. "I THINK THEREFORE I AM...CONFUSED" sez: > I saw that the record store that carries Happy's stuff >in Lawrence now has the complete HR collection. that's good news. a friend of mine in wichita is very interested in getting happy's work. i sent him a copy of the _ectogasm_ tape (which also won the hearts of a few smithies, as i am led to believe). over the weekend, i talked to him and he asked for more of happy's stuff. if he can afford it, i'll point him towards lawrence (which store is it, alex?). if not, i'll send him a tape or two to hold him over. >I hope I don't get a rep as a computer geek! be proud of what you are (if indeed that is what you are - i certainly am). >The owner let me audition the new >Diamanda album,(ouch, I don't think I'll be getting that one!) and a >little of A Man Called Alive. Anyone heard this one? is this some strange hybrid of his name is alive and a man called e? :) +woj ======================================================================== Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1993 01:56:07 +1000 (AEST) From: anthony@xymox.apana.org.au (Anthony Horan) Subject: A subject by any other name would smell as sweet. Hiya everyone... Once again (what's new) it's been busy, though not the 270-message busy of the other week. Phew. A combination of Work I, Work II, Margot live, Work III, a picnic, a storm, preparing to move house (don't panic, I'll tell you all when my address is about to change!) and discovering for the first time the joys of FTP and IRC. Because YES! WOW! AMAZING!!!! This little corner of the network now has access to the outside world!!! Hope to see some of you on #ecto in irc. It's not perfect - I have to telnet to a machine in the UK to use irc and if I want to finger someone I have to telnet to another machine in Iowa or somesuch - but it's workable. :-) >From the Package Of 120 EctoMessages from the past few days: Uli relates: > Anthony H. got me with Margot Smith. I second everything he said about her, > except maybe the position of the album wrt the top-of-93. Anthony isn't a > Katefan, and so he somehow dislikes TRS. I don't. So check her out: > > Margot Smith - Sleeping With The Lion I'm not a Kate-antifan either. I'm just ambivalent. Sorry. :-) I stand by my album of the year rating, though, for Margot. And I can't dislike TRS - I haven't heard it yet! :-) Glad you liked SWTL - speaking of which... Neile reports: > Well, many thanks to Anthony, I am the proud owner of what is most > probably the only copy of Margot Smith's _Sleeping With the Lion_ in the > Pacific Northwest. Maybe the whole west coast of North America. I do You do indeed have the only copy on the West Coast, not counting record company management. There's a copy in Baltimore being appreciated by Sue, and two tapes of the album in Germany with Ilka and Uli, who miss the wonderful artwork... :-) > hope this situation gets remedied shortly and I have plenty of > comrades-in-possession of said disk. Once again, for those who want one, mail me. I can get copies from EMI directly for about AUS$20, pending approval of multiple orders of the same thing. > Starting this disc with the 3rd song and going all the way to the end I > *love* it. Adore it. She reminds me of Lynn Canfield, though maybe just > a little more pop-y. She has a lovely voice, and the lyrics are > intriguing. Sometimes she's a torch singer, sometimes a touch bluesy, > sometimes she has a Kate Bush butterfly soul. Amazing. That's an interesting view on the album - I hadn't noticed a Lynn Canfield similarity myself, but now that you mention it... :) I think she has a stronger voice than Lynn's though. > "Bellyman" "Child"...I was playing the disc tonight and kept telling > Jim: "Listen to this song. I love this song." I think he thought it > getting was a little funny when I said it for about the 6th or 7th time. :-) > However, when I first got this disc I was so disappointed with the first > two songs (especially after Anthony's rave reviews) I couldn't hear how I did actually mention my initial trepidation about the first two songs in the review of the album; I do love "Fall Down" now, though, and "How Do You Sleep" makes more sense heard acoustically. These two tracks are a case of the production letting the music down to an extent, something that doesn't happen after that. > wonderful the rest of the disc is. It's not that there's anything > *wrong* with the songs, it's just that they're mainstream pop, and > because of the girl-pop instrumentation even Margot's voice and the > lyrics weren't enough to catch my interest. But aren't the harmonies on "Fall Down" gorgeous? > But now I have Seen the Light and I can take Anthony's reviews as gospel > as long as I know when to start listening to the music in question. Another convert! :-) I'm going to have to give up my day job at this rate... :^) > Great stuff. I'm really glad you liked it - I'll pass your and Uli's comments on to Margot, by the way, as she seems to like reading what "normal" (ie non music industry) people have to say about her music. Incidentally, watch out for a film called "Redheads" for which Margot recorded the end/beginning credit song a couple of years back; the film still hasn't turned up in Australia though it was made here, but has apparently been shown in Europe. According to Margot the song is a bit of a rock vocal thing, neither written by her nor included on the album. Secondly, the next single will now likely be "Life Time", after much deliberation on "Pool Of Blood". EMI are fronting with the money for a new version to be recorded, as the song cannot be remixed due to EMI Studios 301 losing the original 24 track master! The single will likely include a 20 minute song/piece which Margot and Michael Wade recorded at home. Now, back to your regular programming... Anthony ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Anthony Horan, Melbourne Australia - anthony@xymox.apana.org.au "I kind of feel like I'm Metallica..." - Tori Amos on the perils of long tours, November 1992 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- ======================================================================== From: Karel Zuiderveld Subject: I'm so happy, got Happy! Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1993 02:58:21 +0100 (MET) I'm now a few days in California - man, am I having a good time. The weather here is absolutely gorgeous - in the low 80's. Did some sightseeing (Monterey, Berkeley, SF} and got rid of some stress (still lot's left, though ;}. Most important, I also raided the CD stores - besides that Police box (I did not have a Police CD, so the CD box is definitely worth the money, IMHO} I got the Happy CD's that were missing from my collection, so now I got all seven of them. I had a quick listen to some of the tracks and fell in love with Feed the Fire. What an incredible beautiful song. Brilliant. Fantastic. Definitely my #1 HR song. Is there a top-10 available from the fellow ecto-ers I don't have plans for next weekend. Are there some Ecto'ers in the Bay area that are willing to kill some time with me (I would have met Troy last weekend, but the poor guy had to work... Finally, to my fellow countrymen (kaaskoppen opgelet!} should I bring you some Happy CD's or do you already have a complete collection Regards from Sunnyvale, Karel -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Karel Zuiderveld E-mail: karel@cv.ruu.nl 3D Computer Vision - Room E.02.222 Tel: +31-3403-75548 or +31-30-507772 Academisch Ziekenhuis Utrecht Fax: +31-30-513399 Heidelberglaan 100, 3584 CX Utrecht, The Netherlands --------------- We'll help, but may not be of any help ------------------ ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 25 Oct 93 22:16:57 EDT From: mojzes@monet.rutgers.edu (brni) Subject: black cherry cowboys i can't believe i'm doing this... > >>My family and I were having dinner at a local mall, and I decided to >>have ice cream for dessert. At the Laura Secord's I noticed that the >>name of my favorite ice cream -- the one with the rich, deep red >>cherries -- had been changed from Burgundy Cherry to Bordeaux Cherry. >>On commenting on this to the cashier, she told me that it was >>originally called "black cherry," but the store used to get a number >>of nasty comments about racism, and changed the name to "Burgundy >>Cherry." They _STILL_ were getting complaints at this, so they >>changed it again the "Bordeaux," which hopefully had absolutely no >>connotations to anyone. >> >>Jeepers. Next time I'll order "cherry ice cream of colour." >> >sorry, i couldn't resist. ;) > >+woj > personally, my favorite ice cream is black cherry chocolate, made with real black cherries. incidentally, cowboys aren't the only ones who can't fly. neither can deadheads, as was demonstrated (unbeknownst to me, fortunately) at the last dead show i went to at the now defunct jfk stadium. acid and heights don't mix. brni ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 25 Oct 93 19:28:47 PDT From: Neal R. Copperman Subject: Story Attack So I went to this special vegetarian dinner with The Story, and I'm sorry to report that I was disappointed on most fronts. The meal was mediocre, but that's probably not much of a concern for any of you. I also thought that the show was pretty uneventful too. The real kicker for me was when I realized, about 10 minutes into the set, that I'd actually seen them before. I remembered them opening for someone (Patty Larkin perhaps?) at the Birchmere over a year ago. I remembered two women with decent voices who were very personable and sang mostly forgettable music. They came around personally asking people to sign on their mailing list, and since they were so friendly I did. Now I remember why I keep getting postcards from them. Well, this show wasn't that different. Now they had a band to accompany them on songs that I thought were mostly forgettable. However, there were about 5 songs that were truly stupendous, and they weren't even that similar. There was the funny catchy "Dog Dreams" that was the only memorable song from the other show (though I did remember the story behind Grace In Gravity, if not the song). The others I don't know there names, some were faster and some were slower. The final encore was a transcendent moment when the two main women (Johnatha and J?) sang a wonderful a capella piece. I wish I knew what it was. It was one of the few times that their voices sounded fantastic. Too much of the rest of the time they alternated between being flat and shrill. After that, I went to the Casbah, which can be counted on for having music into the wee hours. I caught a band called Hazel, which is a trio from Oregon (there was some talk about Fred being injured, although it sounded like he could have been a dancer a la the guy in Blue Aeroplanes) with a female drummer/occasional vocalist. They were loud, they were fast, they sounded kind of like a cross between husker du, X (when they used two vocalists) and a number of others, but I got a kick out of them. They played an alphabetical set list, and the bass player would hunker down so much that he easily lost 3 feet whenever he started playing. I picked up their sub-pop disc, whose name I forget, but it has a hilarious cover of the band, nude from the waist up, both right side up and up side down, so if you flip it over, there they are, but with different expressions on their faces. Next up was Velocity Girl, which was actually why I stopped by. They were kind of interesting, but I only halfheartedly recommend them. Sometimes they were fast and tight and could turn a rhythm on a dime, and other times they started layering the guitars and getting all fuzzy and thick. On top of it all was a startlingly good looking well dressed woman who looked like she did not belong in that bar. She seemed largely disinterested, and sort of sang/chanted over the music, almost oblivious to whatever they were doing, although sometimes breaking into a little dance. Plus, she had the most perfect eyebrows I have ever seen. And, I saw A Nightmare Before Christmas, which was ok, but also a bit disappointing. Mediocre music, good animation, but too many cutesy elements worked into the story to balance out the twisted touchs. Should have been Tim Burton's chance to break free and really go crazy, but he constantly pulled back. It didn't have the sick, twisted daring of something like Gremlins. And why does Danny Elfman choose to forget that he is behind Oingo Boingo when he is doing a project like this. Boingo's energy, enthusiasm and macabre humour should have been perfect, rather than the strange Pink Floyd hits Broadway tunes that he came up with. There were only three songs, the medium fast ones, the slow ones, and the bad guys funky one (naturally a deep black voice, but still the most entertaining song). It's still worth seeing for many clever touchs, it's just not what it could be. AND... in case I didn't put people off from seeing the Story, and recalling that many other people have enjoyed them, I have brought with me their tour schedule. Being both cooperative and lazy, I'll post in detail the next week, and just the places they will be after that. If anyone wants more info, let me know and I'll elaborate (although I am leaving for Denver on Wed and won't be back on a tube til Monday.) 10/26 Scottsdale, AZ Rockin' Horse Saloon 10/27 Albuquerque, NM Sunshine Theater 10/30 Denver, CO tba (Look, I can see them again!) 10/31 Boulder, CO tba 11/1 Santa Fe, NM La Luna 11/4 Dallas, TX Chumley's 11/5 Austin, TX La Zona Rosa After that, they will be in AB, TN, NC, NY, DC, MA, NJ, NY, NY, MA, VT, MA, NY, MA. IF any of those abbreviations look appealing to you, let me know for more details. Neal, the long-winded and critical, but I'm sure I will feel much much much better after seeing WAX; or the Discovery of Telivision Among the Bees tonight and Diamanda Galas tomorrow. ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 25 Oct 93 22:38:48 EDT From: woj@remus.rutgers.edu (dressed to ingest) Subject: she's a rebel the latest quality paperback book club mailshot has a listing for a book that might be of some interest to ectophiles: gillian gaar's _she's a rebel_, subtitled "the history of women in rock'n'roll." i have not read this so i can't review it, but i'll reproduce the blurb in the catalog here for your reading pleasure: what do the following songs have in common: "respect," "fast car," and "vogue"? they were all performed or written by women. _she's a rebel_ is a fascinating herstory of women in the rock music industry. author gillian gaar, an accomplished music writer, brings 40 years of rock and roll to life, including early r&b, girl groups, motown, punk, mtv and hip-hop. here are profiles of and interviews with etta james, tina turner, karen carpenter, janis joplin, holly hear, sinead o'connor and others. garr also goes behind the scenes for personal accounts of women managers, producers and record company executives. "_she's a rebel_ is as thoroughly entertaining as it is researched," says billboard. "it's exhaustive and exhilirating." 28 pages of photographs, bibliography, indexes. 467 pages. i somehow doubt that happy is in there. +woj ======================================================================== From: neilg@sfu.ca Subject: Rocky Versus the Election Date: Mon, 25 Oct 93 20:23:32 PDT Well, I've got to wonder about this. American stations carrying the world television premiere of the Rocky Horror Picture Show on election night in Canada, as the Canadian stations carry the latest up-to-the- minute news of the federal election. Is this meant to be a political statement? Are we supposed to flip from one channel to the other and try to decide which programme is the more absurd? - Neil K. -- 49N 16' 123W 7' / Vancouver, BC, Canada / neil_k_guy@sfu.ca ======================================================================== Subject: Mercedes Lackey Date: Tue, 26 Oct 93 0:25:22 CDT From: Joe Zitt brianb@netcom.com (Brian Bloom) writes: > I do remember the first one, tho'... took me a little by a suprise > when the lead character came out. I'm sooo dense because I had forgotten > that I bought the book at an Austin bookstore that specializes in > gay and lesbian literature. I just didn't expect *sci-fi* books > to have any such themes. When I told my gay friends about that they had > a great chuckle at my expense. :) Hmm! Do you remember which one it was? I've read one of her books (one of only three novels I've read in recent years) when it was mentioned on the Net -- the main character was a multiple with psi powers. I don;t remember the title, though I do recall that it was the second book of the Serrated Edge. ======================================================================== Date: 26 Oct 1993 02:19:25 -0400 (EDT) From: "John, I'm only dancing" Subject: Stuff, etc. Woj wojes: > (which > also won the hearts of a few smithies, as i am led to believe). Who *could* he be thinking of... actually, Woj, in case you're interested, the tape in question is my big Happyvangelizing tool... got some UMass students hooked too. :) So what was the eventual verdict on asking Happy questions? Is someone going to be collecting questions to ask her and then sending them to her, as you did before, or has the issue just sort of petered out so I should just write her a letter? :) Maura ======================================================================== From: Tim "Cook." x297 Date: Tue, 26 Oct 93 09:08:58 GMT Subject: Polish Music I've just come back from Warsaw with a bag full of Cds of female singers. All bought by using the tried and tested technique - if the cover looks good, BUY IT!! Other than that I've got no idea what they sound like. I'll let you know what they're like when I get a chance to listen to them. tim ======================================================================== Date: Tue, 26 Oct 93 08:04:38 -0500 From: colford@clsn1231.noble.mass.edu (Michael Colford) Subject: Mercedes Lackey To Joe Zitt, Mercedes Lackey's most popular books are the ones concerning the Heralds of Valdemar. Her first trilogy included the books, (1) _Arrows of the queen_, (2) _Arrow's flight_ and (3) _Arrow's fall_. They involved several supporting characters who were gay. Her 2nd trilogy, included the books, (1) _Magic's pawn_, (2) _Magic's promise_ and (3) MAgic's price. They featured the character Vanyel, who was gay. Her Herald books are excellent and she has written even more than that. Hope that's what you were looking for. If anyone does know anythin about the Mercedes Lackey newgroup/whatever that was mentioned in another post, could they let me (or the group) know? Thanks! Michael -------------------------------------------------------------------- Michael Colford | Reading Public Library | Reading, Massachusetts colford@college.noble.mass.edu | *North of Boston Library Exchange* -------------------------------------------------------------------- ======================================================================== Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1993 10:26:36 -0500 (EST) From: SANDOVAL@stsci.edu Subject: Two points of possible interest... (No Happy content) Hi everyone, A couple of things... First, there is a new Concrete Blonde album out. I picked it up on Saturday, but haven't had a chance to listen to it yet. It looks to have a bit of a latin flavor, and I got a free CD-5 Concrete single with it. :) Also, in case anyone is interested, all systems are go for launch on Dec 2nd, at 4:30 am, for the Hubble Space Telescope Servicing Mission aboard the Space Shuttle Endeavor. We have just passed one of the major checks and things look good. The mission will be 11 days, with 5 space walks for the astronauts. They are going to earn their money on this mission, that's for sure... :) Take care everyone, John ======================================================================== Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1993 00:07:48 +1000 (AEST) From: anthony@xymox.apana.org.au (Anthony Horan) Subject: Re: Ecto: Threat or Menace? In apana.lists.rec.happy-rhodes, article <199310232125.AA16167@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu>, you wrote: > woj, I've heard the flammable/inflammable thing is another example > of Americans slaughtering the English language, but I'm not sure. > Steve, Anthony, do they have different meanings in your neck of the > woods? All the dictionaries I can find in this house are American! :-) I'll check and get back to you. I never really gave this subject much thought before. Ah Ecto, you're broadening my horizons again! > Perfect songs? I dunno, I kind-of liked some of the stuff Full Force > produced for Samantha Fox. She did come up with the best Really Awful Song Title ever: "Hurt me! Hurt Me! (But The Pants Stay On)" I kid you not. And no, I don't own a copy! ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Anthony Horan, Melbourne Australia - anthony@xymox.apana.org.au "I kind of feel like I'm Metallica..." - Tori Amos on the perils of long tours, November 1992 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- ======================================================================== Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1993 00:04:34 +1000 (AEST) From: anthony@xymox.apana.org.au (Anthony Horan) Subject: Re: Dead Can Dance and Margot Sue breaks her silence (well, publically, anyway!) to say: > I was the other North American recipient (East Coast division) of Margot > Smith's "Sleeping With The Lion." I really love it -- there are echoes of > Kate, Enya, Jane and other ecto-friendly artists. Let's hope the album > gets released in the U.S. soon, or Anthony might go broke buying > copies for all his friends across the Pacific! :) My friends across the Pacific are quite welcome to throw a little currency in this direction to cover the cost of the disc...! :-) No word on US release, and there's not likely to be, either, until next year. England is probably going to get the album first, through EMI, but probably not before next year either. Meanwhile, woj responds plaintively: > mine's not here yet...sigh. Sorry woj, minor hiccup in the order process at EMI. They got me in a copy of Roxette's live album. The real thing should have turned up by now, but I need to find the time to grab it from EMI (And place an order for another 5 or so while I'm there! :-) - hopefully tomorrow. It'll be there next week. Promise! ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Anthony Horan, Melbourne Australia - anthony@xymox.apana.org.au "I kind of feel like I'm Metallica..." - Tori Amos on the perils of long tours, November 1992 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- ======================================================================== The ecto archives are on hardees.rutgers.edu in ~ftp/pub/hr. There is an INDEX file explaining what is where. Feel free to send me things you'd like to have added. -- jessica (jessica@ns1.rutgers.edu)