Errors-To: ecto-owner@ns1.rutgers.edu Reply-To: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu Sender: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu From: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu To: ecto-request@ns1.rutgers.edu Bcc: ecto-digest-outbound@ns1.rutgers.edu Subject: ecto #779 ecto, Number 779 Sunday, 3 October 1993 Today's Topics: *-----------------* Re: tori and non tori and more non tori Ecto's car culture deepens Please remove me... More-phine :) Re: Penelope Houston tour dates Re: ecto #778 add me to the musician list ;) Too Many CDs Bananafish? Duran records Think I figgered it out stupid cat tricks and other babble Re: attrition A prodigal ectophile takes a short breather. Re: stupid cat tricks and other babble Re: A bass matter, other stuff... Duran Duran link to Unrest shock horror amazement!!! ======================================================================== Date: Fri, 1 Oct 93 14:22:49 -0500 From: hhtra@chevron.com (T.M.Haddock) Subject: Re: tori and non tori and more non tori > I like this list because I am starting to know the people that I am > writing to and with. I like that. I know that there are real people out > there... it's not just a bunch of crazed Tori Amos fans trying to get > as much Tori stuff as possible... it's real people who happen to be > crazed Tori fans trying to get as much stuff as possible. Oh, let's not forget the Happy Rhodes mailing list (ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu). An intimate, warm-n-fuzy, touchy-feely, hug-crazed group of people as there ever was. :) TRAVIS hhtra@chevron.com ======================================================================== From: brianb@lobby.ti.com (Brian Bloom) Subject: Re: tori and non tori and more non tori Date: Fri, 1 Oct 93 14:57:19 CDT > Oh, let's not forget the Happy Rhodes mailing list (ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu). > An intimate, warm-n-fuzy, touchy-feely, hug-crazed group of people as > there ever was. :) > > TRAVIS > hhtra@chevron.com Hey, Travis! ***HUG*** :) br!an -- __ ____ __ ____ __ __ (__==__) /\ \ / \_\ / /\ / \ \ / |\ / /\ (oo) ( moo.) / \_\ / /\ |_| / / /| /\ \ \ / ||/ / / /-------\/ -' / /\ | |\ \/ /_/_ / / / \ \/ \ \ / |/ / / / | U.T.|| / \/ |_| \ __ \_\ /_/ / \ /\ \_\ / /| / / * ||----|| / /\ ./_/ \ \ \/_/_\_\/ \ \ \/_// / | / / ^^ ^^ \ \/ |_| \ \_\ /_/\ \ \_\ /_/ /|_/ / Br!an Bloom \__/_/ \/_/ \_\/ \/_/ \_\/ \_\/ brianb@lobby.ti.com .. but music hides me so well, ..and reveals me.. oh well - HR ======================================================================== Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1993 16:24:36 CDT From: Subject: Ecto's car culture deepens In response to Travis' characterization of the inmates of this list as "hug-crazed," Brian wrote: >Hey, Travis! ***HUG*** :) Maybe I'm just still reeling under the weight of the response to my post about the nude fundamentalists and their collision, but for some unknown reason I recalled, for the first time in years, that Chevrolet's marketing department (or at least its ad agency) long ago dubbed the 1968 Camaro "The Hugger," and anointed March of 1968 (I think it was) as Hugger Month. Draw your own con- clusions, but I think there may actually be a rational nexus here :-). I read in the paper yesterday that at the end of the year Bob Costas will give up the hostship of _Later_ to concentrate on the basketball season. With the interviewing experience Vickie is racking up, there might theoretically be a career move doable there. On the other hand, it would mean uprooting all that resplendent dual-system recording hardware that Chris just installed. Then again, it just occurred to me that Costas continued to live in St. Louis, and commuted to New York to do the show. All these contingencies can get to be _so_ mind-straining, _ne c'est pas?_ Mitch ======================================================================== Date: Fri, 1 Oct 93 14:49:53 -0700 From: Rodney Somerstein Subject: Please remove me... Jessica, or whoever maintains the ecto list, please remove me from the mailing list as I will be away from my system for a couple of months. The volume of mail would likely cause problems. Thanks, -Rodney (rodneys@apple.com) ======================================================================== Date: Fri, 1 Oct 93 14:55:32 PDT From: kyrlidis@templeton.cchem.berkeley.edu (Angelos Kyrlidis) Subject: More-phine :) Well for once what we discuss on ecto appears to be in sync with the Rolling Stone crowd. The latest issue (with the Edge) has a blurb on my favourite Bostonites (sorry Tribe ;-)) in the New Faces column. Another slightly ecto-relevant thing is the presence of ectophile faves Peter Gabriel and Tori Amos in the Top 100 Music videos of all time. Just thought I'd mention it. Angelos ======================================================================== Date: Sat, 2 Oct 93 1:39:36 EDT From: WretchAwry Subject: Re: Penelope Houston tour dates > Can someone give me some info on Ms. Houston? The name sounds vaguely > familiar, but I can't seem to remember anything about her. > > Neal Hi Neal, here's a post (slightly edited) that I sent in April after I saw her in concert. ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Apr 93 23:58:58 EDT From: WretchAwry Subject: Penelope Houston... ...is heading east, she's *well worth seeing*! Trust me. *TRUST ME* Penelope Houston tour dates: Penelope Houston is a singer-songwriter (well, she writes all the lyrics, and either writes or co-writes the music) from the Bay area. I don't know much about her, other than that she used to be in a band called The Avengers. I've only heard one song by them, and that was the other night when we saw her in concert. In 1988 she released an album called "Birdboys" on Subterranean Records. I can't even remember why I picked it up, because i'm sure I'd never heard of her. The cover is cool, maybe that's why. Whatever, I'm glad I did, because it's a good album and I've been playing songs from it ever since. I was excited when I saw that she was playing Saturday night at a tiny club called the Beat Kitchen. I found out later that, as long as she's been around, this is the first time she's done any touring at all. Penelope is sortakinda folk/notfolk, which should tell you right away that I have no idea how to describe her. (Though she's not in the same indescribable league as Kate/Happy/Jane/Tori.) It's good, solid song- writing, quirky lyrics mainly having to do with loves lost & such ("I keep reaching for the White Out, to erase my mistakes...before you remember them...") and a good voice. My descriptive powers are pretty sucky, sorry. (Help? Can anyone help me here?) Anyway, if you're at the right place at the right time, and have a few bucks (it shouldn't be too expensive, in Chicago it was $8.00 per) I'd definitely recommend seeing Penelope. It's not an "OH MY GOD YOU *MUST* GO!!" (as, say, Tori or Sarah would be) but she's good, and you'll probably have a good time. In case there are any Penelope fans not in the NE USA who might want this information: id Records P.O. Box 422163 San Francisco, CA 84142-2163 1. "The Whole World" (1993) CD $13.00 2. "Birdboys" (1988) LP $10.00 Cassette $ 8.00 CD $12.00 3. "On Borrowed Time" (live) Cassette $10.00 4. "500 Lucky Pieces" Cassette $10.00 5. "Glad I'm A Girl\Sweetheart" 7" vinyl $ 3.00 6. Live video (5 songs) $15.00 7. Cool T-shirt (Black or Blue, L or XL) $15.00 Postage & Packing: First item $2.00, additional $1.00 each Outside US & Canada, double the postage I spent today listening to "500 Lucky Pieces" on my walkman over and over again. It seems to be a "'tween" thing, something recorded between the albums to keep the fans happy, sort of like Boiled In Lead's "Orange." Many of the songs on 500LP also appear on "The Whole World" but the cassette seems to be more acoustic. I can't say for sure because I'm only now listening to TWW for the first time. I *do* know that I loved the cassette today, and that it's a limited edition, numbered and signed, and that if anyone goes to the concert and can only get one thing, I'd recommend 500LP. Vickie ======================================================================== Date: Sat, 2 Oct 93 09:55:23 BST From: Evan Welsh Subject: Re: ecto #778 Jeffy writes: > Dr. Beth Perry > c/o Marcus Hewison > Gretna Green, Westray Island > Orkney, SCOTLAND ^^^^^^^^ > Unless you're in England, I don't think I'd recommend sending anything ^^^^^^^ > after the end of October; I don't know precisely what date she'll be > heading back across the pond. Aaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrgggggggggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!! (sorry, I had to get that off my chest) -- _____________________________________________________________________ / Evan Welsh \ \ Edinburgh Parallel Computing Centre (+44 31 650 5960) / ======================================================================== Date: Wed, 29 Sep 93 20:06:11 CST From: Kiri Subject: add me to the musician list ;) Instruments: violin viola fretless bass, probably could play fretted bass too :) :) just don't have one right now.... some keyboards percussion guitar and to gloat court and I have 4th row tickets to see Dead Can Dance!!! weeeee kiri ======================================================================== Subject: Too Many CDs From: gaffa@mind.org (Valerie Nozick) Date: Mon, 20 Sep 93 23:31:50 -0400 Sigh. A suggestion for all you ectophiles who have a fear of too many CDs to keep up with. (polydiscaphobia?) No matter what you do, do _not_ visit woj or meredith! I made that mistake a few weeks ago, and since have bought at least 12 CDs. Not only that, but they convinced me to buy a copy of the first Duran Duran album, just for the sake of completeness. And I love it. And, no, I haven't had a chance to listen to all my purchases yet. However, I did get a find the other day - bought a copy of Hounds of Love, the marbleized version, for $14. My other purchases have included Jane Siberry (as if I didn't already own the tape, which has already been given away to a friend who I turned on to her), Bjork (ditto on the tape), The Story, Kristen Bush & Andrew Hyra, RhodesSongs (which I picked up at Camelot, the biggest record chain around), and many other goodies. Can't say I regret it, though. Picked up the new dead can dance the other day, too...the 3 tracks I've heard are good. I reserve judgement on the rest. However, this album has the most beautiful packaging I have seen in a long time. Each image is striking and fascinating. Makes me wish I had an album version. *sigh* I love CDs, but I miss large cover art. Imagine a Happy picture that large (but then again, Vol. I etc. would look frightening). Well, that's it from Atlanta... ==> valerie -- mind.org 404/659-5720 Public Access Usenet in Atlanta ======================================================================== From: Mike Matthews Subject: Bananafish? Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1993 16:13:05 -36803936 (EDT) Anybody heard of the "Dynamic acoustic duo" Bananafish? They're the featured musicians for the Electronic AppWrapper (a NEXTSTEP magazine-on-CD that apparently works on NEXTSTEP for Intel systems too, which I'll try out at work) and sound pretty cool (the CD has stereo soundclips on it). Tom Kennedy and Jay Pinto are the members according to the info panel. They're from Seattle, WA. Heh. You can even order the CD ($15) through Paget Press, publishers of the EAW. The reason reason I mention this: wouldn't it be great if Happy were advertised like this? ------ Mike Matthews, Mike_Matthews@sgate.com (NeXTmail accepted) ------ First Law of Bicycling: No matter which way you ride, it's uphill and against the wind. ======================================================================== Subject: Duran records From: gaffa@mind.org (Valerie Nozick) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 93 01:02:54 -0400 hmm...I have to admit, meredith is right. I wasn't very upset at having to buy the Duran Duran album. Yes, I admit it...I am a closet Duranie. It all started when I was 11 and saw the video for 'Hungry Like the Wolf.' >From there it became an obsession - I would hungrily prowl the record stores, waiting for the sign to turn to open so I could be the first person in the universe to own a copy of 'Seven and the Ragged Tiger.' it just got worse. I found myself sleeping next to a duran duran pillow and even loading my walkman (nicknamed Rio) with Duran duran batteries. (yes, they really exist - could i possibly make that part up? :-) So when Meredith showed me the one collector's album I didn't have, how could I help but regress. Steve, send me the name of your therapist, right away! But seriously, I had a great time visiting meredith and woj, and if my wallet came back a little lighter, i got a silly grin on my face for all the hours of stupendous music i've enjoyed since then. Besides, they're not bad people to hang out with, anyhow. (The same for everyone else I saw there, too.) Steve VanDevender said: >This song [BSL] has removed my earwax. Shouldn't that be referring to 'All the Candles in the World'? (kudos to all those who get that one.) mjm says: >And hey, how 'bout them Expos? yup, they sure looked good the other night against them braves. :-) 18-5. Baseball sure is a beautiful game. Magic number 9. I really need to stop posting when I'm tired... ==> valerie -- mind.org 404/659-5720 Public Access Usenet in Atlanta ======================================================================== Date: Sat, 2 Oct 93 15:05:31 PDT From: dixon@physics.berkeley.edu (David Dixon) Subject: Think I figgered it out Hi folx, I think I know why so many ectophiles tend to be science/computer types... It's for the simple fact that science/computer types are more likely to have net accounts, and since they have net accounts, they can get on Ecto. Yours in deduction, D^2 ======================================================================== Date: Sat, 2 Oct 93 20:49:34 EDT From: woj@remus.rutgers.edu (not just the size of a walnut) Subject: stupid cat tricks and other babble i have a large vanilla candle on my desk that i burn whilst online at night. since i don't have a candleholder that big, i use a dish to keep the wax off the cheap, prefab-wood desk. the dish is also where i throw the matches used to ignite the wick since i don't have an ashtray either. every evening when i get home from work, i find that the cats have knocked the matches willy nilly across the room during the day. someone explain this to me. Ilka Heber sez: >I managed to find Heidi's two latest albums, but the first two (Fire Fly and >Below the Waves) are very difficult to find - if at all. I heard Fire Fly >was deleted and Below the Waves only exists as an American Import. _below the waves_ and _firefly_ can be found combined on one cd on rockville records in the us. unfortunately, this is rather difficult to find (my copy was bought used) and probably out of print as well. i can keep my eyes open for one for you, but i doubt that there are many places where i could find it new. "Christine Waite" sez: >Has anyone picked up Dead Can Dance tickets for NYC? I was in line at the box >office and only got tickets for row 12.... :( i ordered mine friday at 12.05, minutes after they went on sale. i got seats in row 11 at the end. i *think* that this is the first row of cheap ($23.50) tickets. in front of that row, they were $32.50 (wasn't i just complaining about expensive tickets not too long ago? well, in certain cases such as dead can dance, all qualms are thrown by the wayside :P :) Neal R. Copperman sez: >All woj's corrections on the Golden Palimino's are, in fact, correct. except one. amanda kramer sings on _drunk with passion_ not which album i was babbling about before. Mike Matthews sez: >Anybody heard of the "Dynamic acoustic duo" Bananafish? i've heard of a zine called bananafish. is there any relation? new release of the weekend: meg hentges' _tattoo urge_. this is a five song ep on tim kerr records out of portland, oregon (although meg seems to be from austin). it's pretty straightforward rock'n'roll but kinda refreshing at the same time, despite meg's obsession with religion. ;) regardless, it's certainly worth the $1 i paid for it. i also found a copy of casey scott's _creep city_ for $1. i reviewed this a while back (i think before i moved to new brunswick actually) when someone gave me a copy of the cassette. if anyone wants either the cassette or a five song sampler cd of this album for free, drop me a line. +woj ======================================================================== Date: Sat, 2 Oct 93 09:14 MET From: uli@zoodle.robin.de (Ulrich Grepel) Subject: Re: attrition Mike says: > [...] > attrition n > syn PENITENCE, contriteness, contrition, penance, penitency, remorse, > remorsefulness, repentance, rue, ruth > > (HA! Beat ya to it, Uli!) :-) well, I think I shouldn't be absent from Ecto for even as short as 24 hours. And I think I should gain DIRECT access to the internet soon, else noone would have a problem to be faster than me... Uli ======================================================================== From: Martin Dougiamas Subject: A prodigal ectophile takes a short breather. Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1993 15:09:03 +0800 (WST) There's something scary about settling down to catch up on all my unread ecto digests in one big file; paging through for nearly an hour and noticing I'm still only 3% through! Just as well I'm down with german measles and a fever, I've got all weekend to get through them! Back to the fray, Martin "never say die" Dougiamas ======================================================================== From: Mike Matthews Subject: Re: stupid cat tricks and other babble Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1993 09:11:31 -36803936 (EDT) Woj requests, re: cats and matches: > someone explain this to me. It's all quite simple. They're protecting the house. Y'see, if lots of dead matches congregate together, eventually they'll reach critical mass, create a black hole, and suck Life as we know it away. > Mike Matthews sez: > >Anybody heard of the "Dynamic acoustic duo" Bananafish? > > i've heard of a zine called bananafish. is there any relation? I hope not. If anyone is interested in the samples of Bananafish I mentioned earlier, I can make 'em available. Their native format is 22050 Hz compressed 16 bit linear but I can convert them to any other format a la sox. ------ Mike Matthews, Mike_Matthews@sgate.com (NeXTmail accepted) ------ ======================================================================== Date: Sun, 03 Oct 1993 14:56:25 +1000 (AEST) From: anthony@xymox.apana.org.au (Anthony Horan) Subject: Re: A bass matter, other stuff... In apana.lists.rec.happy-rhodes, article <9309301953.AA23414@lns598.lns.cornell.edu>, you wrote: > basses around the apartment, those belong to Chris, Greg & Woj's ex-house- > mate from Texas (who has a Duran Duran condom, which IMHO tops the Duran > Duran batteries for true fandom). 8-) I have an Abba bar of soap, unused to this day, if that counts for anything. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Anthony Horan, Melbourne Australia - anthony@xymox.apana.org.au "I kind of feel like I'm Metallica..." - Tori Amos on the perils of long tours, November 1992 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- ======================================================================== Date: Sun, 03 Oct 1993 22:25:35 +1000 (AEST) From: anthony@xymox.apana.org.au (Anthony Horan) Subject: Duran Duran link to Unrest shock horror amazement!!! Okay, I finally got a hold of the album "Perfect Teeth" by Unrest, and while it really doesn't do much for me (the songs just aren't there, the singing lifeless and the whole thing sounds so dry...) but looking in the booklet revealed an interesting credit for the album's producer... SIMON LE BON! I kid you not. Surely this can't be *the* Simon Le Bon? Surely not! ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Anthony Horan, Melbourne Australia - anthony@xymox.apana.org.au "I kind of feel like I'm Metallica..." - Tori Amos on the perils of long tours, November 1992 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- ======================================================================== Date: Sun, 3 Oct 93 10:46:46 EDT From: woj@remus.rutgers.edu (not just the size of a walnut) Subject: Re: Duran Duran link to Unrest shock horror amazement!!! yeah, i saw that too and i've wondered. i suspect that this is either a prank by mark robinson or someone else with the misfortune to be named thus (well, considering some of the benefits of being mistaken for simon le bon, maybe that's not such an unfortunate situation). +woj ======================================================================== The ecto archives are on hardees.rutgers.edu in ~ftp/pub/hr. There is an INDEX file explaining what is where. Feel free to send me things you'd like to have added. -- jessica (jessica@ns1.rutgers.edu)