Errors-To: owner-ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu Reply-To: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu Sender: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu From: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu To: ecto-request@ns1.rutgers.edu Bcc: ecto-digest-outbound@ns1.rutgers.edu Subject: ecto #349 ecto, Number 349 Friday, 16 October 1992 Today's Topics: *-----------------* Goodmorning once upon a time ... Shona Laing, etc. A mildly impertinent afterthought... Warpaint sighting & misc. Spontaneously recalled 1st4 'new' standards The binational pastime New gif? Incoming? Re: Ahhh... Ecto-heaven.. Re: Re Happyvangelism, email delays and scratched CD's, in that Re: Goodmorning ======================================================================== Date: 14 Oct 92 17:51:05 EDT From: Mike Weaver <72210.2035@compuserve.com> Subject: Goodmorning "Uummm-there's nothing like corriander chutney and naan first thing in the morning!"-Angel "I'm a scary girl, with a scary mind"-Happy ======================================================================== Subject: once upon a time ... From: klaus@inphobos.w.open.de (Cosmic Vagabond) Date: Wed, 14 Oct 92 22:00:03 GMT Back to some old digests. I'm not finished with all of them yet (I'm two weeks behing), but I better post this before it gets too long. Jens speculated about us knowing about Vaya con Dios: > Certainly, the European Ectophiles should know Vaya con Dios, so that rules > out 2) and I doubt 3)! Certainly not! But I've just asked Claudia and she said "I know them, sure", although she can't remember anything about the music. She said they had a summer hit in Germany last year. The current issue of ME/Sounds contains a review of their latest album "Time Flies" which sounds mildly interesting. Justin about ISBNs on CDs: > number; check digit (modulo 11, with X = 10).) I have never > seen a sound recording with an ISBN before, except for things > like talking books which are sold in bookstores... it's very > odd that Pamela Golden's CD has one! I've seen a Star Trek soundtrack CD (or was it a compilation from the soundtracks of all ST movies?) that had an ISBN. That's the only one I know of. The new Susan Vega, is actually the first of hers that I bought. I heard and liked "Luka" a lot and also heard some other songs, but never enough to go out and get one of her albums. In Cambridge, Angelos played us her new album and I went to buy it the next day. It's a great, though too short, album. Meredith wrote: > (Providing, of course, the restaurant serves Spaten Weiss) Please let me know: is it something to drink or to eat? :) ... and: > I had figured that wherever Terry Pratchett was Klaus would be, > and sure enough we found him (wearing his official AG Happy T) Right! Where else? :) Valerie wrote about 99.9F cover: > you can guess what the first thing i did after waking up thurs. was.) is > anyone else disappointed by the artwork? in the past she has given us some When I see the cover, I always have to think about Tori Amos because of the colour of hair and seeing all the close ups in the videos. Jeff wrote about _Warpaint_ CDs: > stuff. Whilst there (first time I've been in since I bought _Ecto_), I > checked their supply. Someone's been buying! They had in stock one copy each You could also mark the CDs so that you know if it's still the same one, of if it has been replaced, when you look the next time. :P ;^) Vickie wrote: > The Humpe-Humpe album was released by Warner Brothers Records in > America, and SWS are on Atlantic in America. I have both on LP. I > don't know if they were even released on CD. The Ideal (which you Both are still available on CD (but I don't have them). Inga Humpe also released the album "Planet Oz" in 1990, but again, I haven't heard it. I have the impression that some of you still have problems getting mail through to me although all those digests get through fine. Remember that you can also use my office account: kkluge@materna.de Cheers, Klaus. ___________________________________________________________ ( "Tell me all the plans you have for the great beyond. ) ) Will you be physical again, or be a cosmic vagabond." ( / --- Happy Rhodes --- \ / Klaus "cosmic vagabond" Kluge klaus@inphobos.w.open.de \ ======================================================================== Date: Wed, 14 Oct 92 13:27:37 CDT From: _Homo Economicus_--NOT! Subject: Shona Laing, etc. The other day, somebody asked in these pages whether Shona Laing had done any albums besides _South_, the home of the now-dated period classic, "Soviet Snow." As fate would have it, while browsing at the Rock Records storewide sale this morning, I noticed (and bought, at their momentarily standard 20% markdown) SL's new album, "New on Earth," on Epic. I'll have to get back to you on how it is. Be that is at may, it's good to see that New Zealand (where she's from) is keeping competitive with its Oceanian neigh- bor Australia when it comes to music of interest to ecto. They were also selling a new album by an apparently new group, _Between Two Fires_ by Cell Mates. The cover features a picture of two similar-looking women embracing; I have no idea if this is an indication that the principals in the band are gay. The back of the box has a picture of what I presume to be the band: The women from the front cover in the foreground (presumably the fronting vocalists), and a bunch of men in the background (presumably the backup musicians). The presence of the latter presumably can be taken as an indicator that regardless of what the front cover may connote to the uninformed , this probably is not part of the so-called womyn's music genre, or at least not of its separatist faction. While reading Vickie's account of her conversation with Happy, it occurred to me that the new movie _The Last of the Mohicans_ takes place in or around ancient Albany. Ought we to give consideration, in consideration thereof, to adding it to our array of subcultural icons and obscure subliminal symbols? :-) Mitch Pravatiner (Still the same person as before, just futzing around with the frills on this system's alternative mail software) ======================================================================== Date: Wed, 14 Oct 92 13:45:09 CDT From: Mitch Pravatiner Subject: A mildly impertinent afterthought... Vickie recently wrote: >[...] it wasn't until we hung up that >I remembered I had about 20 different questions for her [Happy]. Just after I sent the last posting (as always!), the following occurred to me: If collectively we can think of an additional 20+, would we be able to parlay the 40+ into another interview to peddle to _Homeground_, or whoever else we could bamboozle into taking it? (I'm not even sure what the good folks over at the aforesaid mag have done with the first interview that this collectivity submitted to them, well over a year ago, if indeed we submitted it.) If we aren't able to dream up an additional 20+ questions, it has just dawned on me that _Playboy_ has a feature called "20 Questions," in which celebrities are asked that number of questions on various things, and into which Vickie's original 20 would fit exactly. Think of the possibilities: a whole new medium before which to Happyvangelize; it surely does not strain credulity to excess, to represent this up-and-coming young chanteuse as one who might fit into the musical tastes of at least some of the Men Who Have Everything? Just thoughts... :-) Mitch ======================================================================== Date: Wed, 14 Oct 92 08:38:56 CDT From: Chip Subject: Warpaint sighting & misc. Hi Ectophiles! A coworker of mine (hi Sue!) told me that she spotted Warpaint here in Chicago at a place called 'Women and Children First'. Vickie: did you have anything to do with this, or de we need to do some investigating to find out how they knew about Happy? Sue told me that she's also gotten her roommate hooked on Happy. I wanted to include the text that Sue sent me, but I was brain-dead and deleted it. Oh well. Now about something else... I remember some time ago there was some talk about Diamanda Galas here, but I don't remember what it was. A couple of weeks ago I was in a record shop and saw a CD by her and said to myself "Hmmm. This was discussed on Ecto -- it must be good". So I got it. Well, I don't know what to think. It certainly is different from anything I've heard. The strange thing is, I haven't yet decided whether or not I like it!!! Now I'm wondering what was discussed on Ecto because I probably just skimmed it. Could someone paraphrase or point me to the digests where she was discussed? Another thing I can't figure out about her is if she's religious or if she's sacrilegious! I mean, the lyrics are religious in nature, but the way she sings them... The other I night I was with a friend and we got to talking and we jokingly said "if someone like that can get a contract with a major label, why can't Happy?!" Hmmm. I guess we could ask that question about a lot of the albums which get released these days! Ok - that's enough for now. Back to work... ======================================================================= Chip Lueck (Jeff) | "The moving walkway is now ending. email: chip-l@nwu.edu | Please look down." phone: 708-491-5912 | ======================================================================== Date: Wed, 14 Oct 92 15:56:41 CDT From: Happy camp follower Subject: Spontaneously recalled In rechecking the day's incoming, I just came across Vickie's mention of Julee Cruise and remembered that she recently joined, or at least sat in with, the B52s as a replacement for Cindy Wilson. Anyone catch her act in this context? How did she work out? (Intuitively, the combination sounds rather weird to me.) _Fresh Air_ on NPR just did part 2 of a series on the history of Scepter Records, one of the venerable indie labels of the golden age of classic R&B. Believe it or not, Disney wants to make it into a movie, with Bette Midler as Mrs. Greenberg, the founder. Might "The Happy Rhodes Story" eventually make it out of the realm of implausibility? The observation has spontaneously hit me that for the moment, anyway, there are now three notable cultural phenomena whose current wherabouts are somewhat ambiguous: Elvis, Betty Page, and the Happy Birthday Project. Go figure :-). Mitch ======================================================================== Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 14:08:23 +0800 From: Ken Taylor Subject: 1st4 Martin Said: > Yes, after 5 months or so of postal troubles and delays, my 1st4 > *finally* arrived. Ken, my tapes are now officially yours. :) Bastard !!! (affectionately) I have already worn out Vol. 1 ... Can I retape it from your CDs now :) Ken -- Ken Taylor | "I have a friend who's seen inside my tiny brain ken@cujo.curtin.edu.au | He's seen the aging and the mildew from the rain Curtin University | And he does what he can to keep on top of every Perth, W. Australia | one of them" - Happy Rhodes ======================================================================== Date: 15 Oct 92 17:56:46 EDT From: Mike Weaver <72210.2035@compuserve.com> Subject: 'new' standards (Mitch wrote:) -> Seems nobody may dethrone Linda Ronstadt when it comes to bridging the musical generation gap this way :-). How 'bout Rickie Lee Jones and 'Pop Pop'? ======================================================================== Date: 15 October 1992 15:30:07 CDT From: Subject: The binational pastime The Toronto Blue [albeit not fuzzy] Jays have finally won the pennant, thereby becoming the first Canadian team to make it to the [at last truly] World Series . There seems a certain appropriate reciprocity about it all, in view of all the years that 2/3 of the original National Hockey League was in the States, though the Stanley Cup probably stayed north of the border more than 1/3 of the time. Now Beth, Geoff, Justin, and the rest of ecto's Eh Team :-) will be able to experience the annual American autumnal hoopla at firsthand. Yesterday, _All Things Considered_ ran a lighthearted commentary on the whole thing, most of the details of which I unfortunately don't remember. The comm- entator related how her husband (Canadian, ironically) was worried about what the transborder migration would do to the character of the October classic. Would they play two national anthems at the beginning? (They already do.) Would it be in French? (Good question, though the Expos already do.) Canadi- ans, after all, are known worldwide as peacekeepers, not warmongers. (Though high-sticking, fighting, and other of the traditional crowd-pleasing features of hockey presumably bring as large a flow of traffic to the penalty box among teams based on both sides of the border. :-) ) Etc., etc. (NB: The preceding series of interpolations are mine rather than the commentator's.) Actually, what I'd really like to see performed before the games is the creativ e synthesis of the two anthems that the late, great _SCTV_ (appropriately, pro- duced by the Toronto subsidiary of a great Chicago cultural institution) came up with at the end of an episode over a decade ago. A rendition of "O Canada" by a children's choir was intercut with what I presume to have been Rick Morani s impersonating Mel Torme doing "The Star Spangled Banner" with bits of "Chatt- anooga Choo Choo" and a healthy dose of scat-singing added to the package, with a few bars of Burl Ives singing "The Maple Leaf Forever" thrown in for good measure (presumably to please old-school Anglophones in the audience). Now _that_ was a performance! :-) When _The Bullwinkle Show_ first premiered over three decades ago, the wags of the period predicted war with Canada within 39 weeks over _Dudley Do-right_. It will be interesting to see how much faster this posting will stimulate such a process :-). But seriously folks, I do favor a Jays victory in the Series, both because they've never won one before and in view of Atlanta having knocked out Pittsburgh, site of this year's sociology meetings (which I wasn't able to attend), in the playoffs. My only concern is how this will fit in with the theory that National League victories in the Series in election years tend to coincide with Democratic victories in the presidential race, and American league victories with Republican ones. On the other hand, it should be remembe red that in 1980, the year of Reagan's first victory, Philadelphia (NL) won the world championship over Kansas City (AL); what is more, although Toronto is in the American League, it is not, strictly speaking, an American _team_-- though, as NPR's commentator pointed out to her husband, most of the players are Americans. Ain't geopolitics grand? :-) With baseball, naturally, goes beer. Klaus writes: >> (Providing, of course, the restaurant serves Spaten Weiss) >Please let me know: is it something to drink or to eat? :) I always assumed it was something to drink, specifically, a variety of wheat beer (as in Berliner Weiss, usw.). I would surmise off the top of my head that Meredith, in making the original reference to the stuff, actually meant _Spaeten_ Weiss, which would translate literally as "late wheat," but which probably means either that it was aged longer than usual, or is brewed late in the season, or comes from low in the barrels, near the sedimentation (cf. the phenomenon of Bock beer, which may or not be a going concern outside the Midwest). At least they'll be able to imbibe the stuff in the Skydome, whose predecessor as home of the Jays had the dubious distinction of being the only dry park in the majors (ironic, since the Labatt's brewery owned the team then, as now). Mitch ======================================================================== Date: Fri, 16 Oct 92 1:14:52 EDT From: Ode Subject: New gif? Incoming? Hey Jessica, what's with the new "happy-promo.TV.gif" in the pub at hardees? I downloaded it and got a wonderful view of Happy's mouth. Maybe I'm not viewing it right, but I thought I'd ask, is it supposed to be bigger? Where'd it come from? It's been ages since I went looking through the archives. What are the newest gifs? Also, where's the incoming file? I noticed that the only song in the song directory was When the Rain Came Down. I was going to upload a few more. Also, does anyone have the Echoes interview handy? I think I accidentally deleted it and someone asked me for the whole thing. That's why I went looking in the archives, but it isn't there. Thanks! Vickie vickie@pilot.njin.net _________ |_ _ | _ Fuzzy Blue Wonderland "We're waking up |__|_ ||_| "There is a road straight yes it's good" to my heart" ======================================================================== Date: Fri, 16 Oct 92 1:31:45 EDT From: Ode Subject: Re: Ahhh... Ecto-heaven.. > Martin here.... > > *happy sigh*... I opened the front door this morning to find a startled > post-office person with one hand in the air, about to press the doorbell. > "YES!!!", I bawled. > "Sign here", she said. > "YES!!!!!", I bawled and scribbled "Happy Rhodes" on the pad. > > She handed over a lumpy brown package cleverly labelled "Books" and smiled > at me, though I'd already disappeared into the house and shot upstairs. > > Bare seconds later, Happy's 1st4 were liberated from their > shrink-wrapping and safely placed into the 5-CD player along > with Warpaint. Aaaahhhh.... bliss. All five albums together > in the same format. Ecto-heaven. :) > > Yes, after 5 months or so of postal troubles and delays, my 1st4 > *finally* arrived. Ken, my tapes are now officially yours. :) > > Love those new songs especially... more later on these... > Back to your regularly-sheduled ecto-information service... I just had to tell you, that was *wonderful*! I can't wait to hear your reactions to the new songs. Pout...pout...new Gyan....pout...pout...I wish she were available here. I do plan to look around, but if I don't find it, any chance you could send a dub when you send your HGP tapes? (she asks hopefully!) Vickie ======================================================================== Date: Fri, 16 Oct 92 1:46:16 EDT From: Ode Subject: Re: Re Happyvangelism, email delays and scratched CD's, in that > I recently saw a new issue of Ms. Magazine on the stands, and have gotten to > wondering if it would be another appropriate target for Happy's publicity > machine. Yes, and Glamour and Playboy and Spin and Rolling Stone and any other magazine out there that reviews music. One day.... > Last week, I checked a number of CDs out of the public library. The only one > I have thus far gotten around to listening to apparently has quite a playing > history; it pops, crackles and sticks with the best of well-worn vinyl. It > sort of gives one pause to think that this could be the fate of Happy's music > eventually, new technologies notwithstanding. What did you get? I checked out the soundtrack to Say Amen Somebody (great music, has even an athiest like me whirling around the room. Great movie too!) and Musics of the Soviet Union (yeah, it's an old one, and very good) and Stella Chiweshe's Ambuya (excellent mbira music. If I weren't so darn honest, I'd have conveniently "lost" it. But oh well, the library's CD collection is so tiny that it was nice to see it there. I'll have to find it elsewhere to buy.) Did you see the Warpaint I gave the library when you were there? Vickie vickie@pilot.njin.net _________ |_ _ | _ Fuzzy Blue Wonderland "We're waking up |__|_ ||_| "There is a road straight yes it's good" to my heart" > Mitch > ======================================================================== Date: Fri, 16 Oct 92 2:13:12 EDT From: Ode Subject: Re: Goodmorning > "Uummm-there's nothing like corriander chutney and naan first thing in the > morning!"-Angel > "I'm a scary girl, > with a scary mind"-Happy > Don't know corriander chutney, but I like cheese naan myself! Vickie ======================================================================== The ecto archives are on hardees.rutgers.edu in ~ftp/pub/hr. There is an INDEX file explaining what is where. Feel free to send me things you'd like to have added. -- jessica (jessica@ns1.rutgers.edu)