Errors-To: owner-ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu Reply-To: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu Sender: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu From: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu To: ecto-request@ns1.rutgers.edu Bcc: ecto-digest-outbound@ns1.rutgers.edu Subject: ecto #347 ecto, Number 347 Monday, 12 October 1992 Today's Topics: *-----------------* Blood Makes Noise Thank you Jeff New album from Gyan is out. Not Sinead and stuff testing Wings of Joy Rasta factoids Request to subscribe REM NEW ALBUM Happy reference, Tori live etal Playlists? Re: testing Re: Bel Canto Homeground interview Thanks to all ======================================================================== Date: Fri, 9 Oct 92 21:44:33 PDT From: spotter@darwin.bio.uci.edu (Steve Potter) Subject: Blood Makes Noise Hey Jeff, Good story about the way personal stereo music can affect a scene. That's one reason why I never casually grab a tape for my Aiwa. I know it will dominate my thoughts and mood and perceptions while I am listening (usually walking to work), so I pick tapes that I would not mind being dominated by! I heard Blood Makes Noise on the radio yesterday, and it made me stop pipetting or whatever I was doing and run over to the radio to hear it and marvel that this usually pretty lame station was playing such an interesting song. Is that by Suzanne Vega? Is that on the record all the ectophiles are raving about? If not, who is it by????? It sure didnt sound like SV I have heard before. Some of my Aiwa-induced mood-altering tapes: Cure--Faith/17 Seconds : For serious contemplation of life state Kate--HoL or Dreaming: For ecstatic celebration of a change My Celtic mix tape--gets the toes tappin and lips smilin Gabriel--Security: Back in touch with emotions Smiths--(any): To enhance and amplify that lame, pathetic, feeling- sorry-for-myself feeling. Cocteau Twins--Blue Bell Knoll: Transport to a totally nuther planet Dvorak--New World Symphony: Feeling of extreme power and of late, Happy Rhodes--Warpaint: Love and optimism and hope. --Skaludy spotter@darwin.bio.uci.edu ======================================================================== Date: Sat, 10 Oct 92 3:32:42 EDT From: Ode Subject: Thank you Jeff Subject: Re: soundtrack to my life... Jeff writes: > It's amazing how the music you grab to stuff in the walkman can impact > the things you're seeing around you. > > What brought that incident to mind, though, and inspired me to write this > evening, was the selection of tapes I happened to take with me today > as I headed down to the Mall to fly some kites (am I predictable or > what?!). Selections included a tape with _Warpaint_ on one side and > HoL on the other, my Rhodes Volume I tape, and _99.9 F^o_. > > What hadn't really clicked with me (though I'd thought of the possibility > that there'd be *some* folks there) was that volunteers with/for the > Names Project would be swarming around the Washingotn Monument grounds > (best spot in DC for kite flying), preparing for this weekend's AIDS > Memorial Quilt display--the first time in 3 years that the entire quilt, > now over 21,000 panels, has been displayed. I saw a lot of panels being > aired out, and a lot of people working diligently to help pull this event > off. And I knew that a lot of these people had lost friends, family, loved > ones to AIDS. And the music in my ears became so much more poignant. > "Oh the Drears." "Given In." "Step Inside" ("Easily frightened? Step > inside!") "In Hiding." "Running Up That Hill (Deal With God)". > "Blood Makes Noise." "Blood Sings." "Words Weren't Made for Cowards." > "I Have A Heart." Wow, thank you for writing this. I could picture the scenario as I read, and imagine the music in my head. There was a fascinating article about the quilt in the paper, telling how it is made and some of the (many, too many) stories behind the quilt panels. "The saddest thing is, some of the people who worked on earlier panels have panels of their own now...and some of the people working on panels today will have panels in the future." :-( :-( :-( > Flying my kites, bringing a bit of cheer into the sky, helping refocus > gazes from what would soon enough fill the ground for a shockingly large > area. I got more friendly comments today about my kites than I usually > receive in an entire month. And oh, the wonderful, moving music that > filled in the spaces around me... Thanks Jeff, thank you so much for writing this. Pity the people who shut out music and never get to experience feelings such as this. I don't know what I'd do without music. Just listening for pleasure is important, but when music can help heal and soothe, sort and classify intense emotions, help to *feel* those emotions, why would anyone want to deny themselves that? Unfortunately, I don't think a majority of people even know that music can do things like that. I'm going through some very intense self-therapy, trying to make sense of my far past, and I can't even imagine what I would do without Happy's music, because her lyrics are *exactly* what I need to hear right now. To a lesser extent, I'm on a Toni Childs kick too, actually the album _House of Hope_. And Peter comes along with "Digging in the Dirt" and _US_ and I'm in a puddle on the floor. Tori is very important to me right now. Bless these people for writing music and lyrics from their hearts. Vickie vickie@pilot.njin.net _________ |_ _ | _ Fuzzy Blue Wonderland "We're waking up |__|_ ||_| "There is a road straight yes it's good" to my heart" ======================================================================== From: Martin Dougiamas Subject: New album from Gyan is out. Date: Sat, 10 Oct 92 15:55:31 WST Hiya, Martin here... I happened to be browsing through a CD store yesterday when I came across Gyan's newest (second) CD in the New Releases section... I had a listen to it but haven't bought it yet (I bought a second- hand compilation of some brilliant jazz-funk instead 8-} ) ... but from one quick listen I can say it sounds pretty good. All the songs are of very high quality, and she has a very tight and strong backing band... including Dave Dobbyn who plays and helped produce many tracks... Her voice is better than ever, and I must admit often reminded me of Tori ... though the album itself had the tough feeling more of Melissa Etheridge's first album. I guess this album may be intended for the wider world market, so if you see it while browsing, I'd recommend giving it a go. I *think* it's called "Reddest Red", at least that's the first single... You may remember I mentioned the "Stairways To Heaven" album a few days ago... I tried to get a copy yesterday but apparently the first pressing has already sold out! (it's only been a week or two) Martin -- ,------------------------------------------------------------. _ . | I don't want no diversion Martin Dougiamas. | _r| Ll\ | I don't need no bread and jam martin@cs.curtin.edu.au | | | \ | I wanna breathe the air Curtin University | \ |_ / | and be exactly where I am. Perth, Western Australia -+-> x~ `-' `==== Robyn Hitchcock =======================================' V ======================================================================== Date: 9 October 1992 15:54:41 CDT From: Subject: Not Sinead and stuff I gave the story on Tori in yesterday's Trib a cursory read last night, and don't recall most of the details. But it did have a couple of interesting points, amid the stuff we all know about anyway. She was asked about being likened to Kate oftentimes, and said something to the effect that she does indeed listen to Kate's albums, but not five times a day, so as not to be unduly influenced in the development of her own style. Also that she was pleased and impressed to get as far as she did in the MTV award sweeps, against competitors for whom the hype machine was much better oiled. (I can recount more some other time, if anyone's interested.) _All Things Considered_ has just announced that this afternoon's features will include "Daniel Pinkwater goes head to head with Sinead O'Connor." So much for my subject line :-). I wonder if Daniel is also in the market for Rogaine. Knowing what I've heard of his work before, that may well be what it will really be about. Jeff's account of his visit to Arlington reminded me of the conclusion I once drew, that it is possible to attach an antiwar (and anti- other mortogens) subtext to Malvina Reynolds' (by way of Pete Seeger) immortal lyric, "Little boxes on a hillside.../Little boxes, little boxes, little boxes, all the same." Mitch ======================================================================== Date: 10 Oct 92 14:30:47 EDT From: Mike Weaver <72210.2035@compuserve.com> Subject: testing Hi all, this is a test - are we reaching the Happy Rhodes digest? ======================================================================== From: drk@leland.stanford.edu Subject: Wings of Joy Date: Sat, 10 Oct 92 14:52:09 PDT Does anyone in Ectoland have "Wings of Joy" by The Cranes? Whatcha think of it? - David. ======================================================================== Subject: Re: Wings of Joy Date: Sat, 10 Oct 92 18:29:58 -0400 From: jeffy@syrinx.umd.edu >Does anyone in Ectoland have "Wings of Joy" by The Cranes? (Isn't it just "Cranes" (as in "Eurythmics" or "Rainbirds"?)) Woj and I posted about this album a bit maybe, oh, a month and a half ago. Very good stuff. Are you asking "what do you think about it" because you want to hear others' opinions in comparison to your own, or because you're thinking about buying it and want to know if it's worthwhile? Personally, I think it's really great music, but I don't care for the album as a whole. I never listen to it--in fact, I actively ignore it, as it's on the flipside of a tape of His Name Is Alive's _Home Is In Your Head_ which I *do* listen to--and when I get to the end, I just rewind instead of listening to _Wings of Joy_. That said, I *love* a lot of songs on the album, and they figure promimently on a compilation tape I made and listen to all the time. So what all this boils down to is that I think the album is boring as a whole, but taken bit by bit it's cool. Jeff ======================================================================== Date: 10 October 1992 12:57:20 CDT From: Subject: Rasta factoids On the way home yesterday, it dawned on me that I'd intended, and then forgott- en, to say a few words in my last post in response to somebody's query on Rastafarians, apropos the Sinead thing. Maybe just as well; last night, I discovered additional information in yesterday's paper. The Rastafarians are a Jamaican sect, whose deity is the late Ethiopian emperor Haile Salassie (whom they call "Ras Tafari"). Their religious objects include ganja (pot or hashish, I forget which), and dreadlocks. The Star of David is an icon of theirs. The red-yellow-green shawl Sinead was wearing was an allu- sion to the colors of the Ethiopian flag. The Rasta doctrine blames the Cath- olic church for being a force behind much of the colonization of the third worl d in general and Africa in particular, as I recall reading it. So there seems to be a three-way interface between Rasta theology, Sinead's politics, and the fact that she performed a Bob Marley song on SNL. Just a few of the highlights from Daniel Pinkwater's commentary on the whole thing on _All Things Considered_ yesterday: he said of Sinead, "I kind of like her. She's like a mental patient. Nice voice. And I approve of the hairdo--I had it first." He added, "If you're a Catholic the Pope is God's vicar on earth; but it has to be understood that if you're not, he's just a fat Polish guy in a dress." He speculated that her gripe with the church might have to do with the notion that every human problem can be traced to overpopu- lation, whereas the Pope travels to places like Mexico city, exhorting the faithful not to practice birth control. He thinks that people are mad at her for singling the Pope out, when he's not responsible for all human suffering. In the interest of leveling the playing field, and because it all has gotten Sinead some useful publicity, Pinkwater proceeded to tear up pictures of Billy Graham, Rev. Moon, Lyndon LaRouche, Dr. Spock, Ross Perot, Jesse Jackson, William F. Buckley and Howard Stern. He said in closing, "I feel a lot better. How about you?" In the same issue of the newspaper was a review of a book about famous funny quotes from show business. It recounted the famous exchange between Groucho Marx and a priest, in which the latter thanked Groucho for all the joy he'd brought to the world, and Groucho thanked him back for all the joy he'd taken out of it. Somehow, it seemed to fit in with the other stuff being discussed here. Mitch ======================================================================== Subject: Request to subscribe From: scasterg@waltham.columbus.oh.us (Stuart Castergine) Date: Sun, 11 Oct 92 00:18:23 -0500 Please add me to the ecto mailing list. --- scasterg@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu -- Stuart M. Castergine --- I still dream of Orgonon. |/ |\ ======================================================================== Date: 11 Oct 92 12:21:10 EDT From: Mike Weaver <72210.2035@compuserve.com> Subject: REM NEW ALBUM WOJ-WHAT'S THE TWO SONGS FROM AUTOMATIC YOU DON'T REALLY LIKE? MY ONLY PROBLEM IS IGNORELAND. TO ME, IT KIND OF STICKS OUT LIKE A SORE THUMB. THE REST OF IT IS GREAT!!!!! ESPECIALLY MONTY GOT A RAW DEAL!!! ANGEL ======================================================================== Date: 11-OCT-1992 16:21:30.57 From: MTARR@eagle.wesleyan.edu Subject: Happy reference, Tori live etal Hi! Vickie, I know this is going to excite you so I'm relating it: over on GEnie I've been uploading playlists to the Radio Playlists topic, which is populated by DJs (mostly from California) and people eager to expand their musical horizons. I also posted info on Psychowelders, The Moon Seven Times, and (surprise!) Happy. One other person on the board (I don't know his real name, he goes by Cavebear) then said "Her early stuff is out on CD now? Where can I get it?????". Needless to say I was rather surprised by this, so I asked how he had heard of her. He replied that he had been at a party where a tape of hers was playing, and he's been trying to get her stuff ever since. Okay- who of you has a friend who goes by Cavebear on GEnie? Who of you threw the party he was at? If no one, then we may have a "real world" Happy discovery on our hands! Saw Tori in NYC on Friday. Very neat show- compared to when I saw her in April the experience wasn't as mind-blowingly intense, although I did have to remind myself to breathe on more than one occasion. She seems to have gotten past the stage where each song is still a numbing catharsis for her (with the exception of "Me And A Gun", naturally), so she can speak between songs without having to choke out every word. She really is quite funny. I was pleasantly surprised, since I would have expected her to be rather bored with her material after performing it nonstop for almost a year now- but she seemed to be having fun with it all. Her voice is starting to show signs of strain, though- I'm sure those vocal chords will be happy when December rolls around! woj and I waited well over an hour by the stage door afterwards (what the hell, it was a nice night :), and at midnight she came out. She had the hug and smile for everyone, and she signed my shirt. :> I even had my camera with me (not for that reason, but it was there), so we got pictures- I hope they come out, I think I cut off woj's head because Tori is so short. :} Next up is New Haven on 9 November, yay. ============================================================================= Meredith Tarr m.tarr1@genie.geis.com America can't survive another four years... fight the idiocy on November 3rd ============================================================================= ======================================================================== Date: 11-OCT-1992 16:32:38.12 From: MTARR@eagle.wesleyan.edu Subject: Playlists? Hi again... I had the thought that you all (or some of you :) might enjoy seeing some of my playlists, since I am doing this radio thing again and I'm compiling them to post to GEnie anyways. I want to ask first though, so if anyone has any objections they have a chance to let me know. The lists aren't that long- how much can you do in a two-hour non-thrash show ;)- if you all are up for it, I'm ready to provide! Also, I'd like to get input, since I'm always looking for new and weird things to intersperse with the commoner fare on Champagne Jam. Let me know... ============================================================================= Meredith Tarr m.tarr1@genie.geis.com America can't survive another four years... fight the idiocy on November 3rd ============================================================================= ======================================================================== Date: Sun, 11 Oct 92 18:32:55 EDT From: Ode Subject: Re: testing Mike: This is a "reply" which means it will go to both the Ecto list and you, so you'll get a loose copy and it will also appear in the Ecto Digest. > Hi all, this is a test - are we reaching the Happy Rhodes digest? Yep! You made it! Welcome to Ecto, Mike and Angel! Mike: What's the status on Happy and the book cover? What's the status on the book at all, even if Happy doesn't paint the cover? Angel: Write about your exploits in getting the word about Happy to other people. (We call it Happyvangelizing) It's great to have you here! Now, even when you move to Australia, you'll only be an e-mail letter away. How wonderful! Vickie vickie@pilot.njin.net _________ |_ _ | _ Fuzzy Blue Wonderland "We're waking up |__|_ ||_| "There is a road straight yes it's good" to my heart" ======================================================================== Date: Sun, 11 Oct 92 22:56:24 EDT From: Ode Subject: Re: Bel Canto Am I behind or what? I'm woefully over quota and was going back through my old mail to see what all I can delete. I saved this because of the reference to Bel Canto. Justin wrote: > the new Bel Canto record has a strong effect on people... when I brought > it back from Belgium in May and lent it to a friend in Toronto for a day, > he didn't want to give it back, and called me cruel for tantalizing him > with such music when it wasn't available in North America. Shimmering, > warm and bright is a beautiful album (visually, too!); more in the style > of Birds of passage than White-out conditions, melancholy, colorful, varied. > As has been previously mentioned, they have songs in German and French on > this album. The album and the CD-single (which I didn't get! sigh) are all > over the place in France and Belgium and Alan mentioned Germany and England > and Nettwerk has released their two previous albums in Canada so where is > this one? Not here!!! augh. I absolutely agree! I'd had a tape of this album (thanks Klaus!) but I finally got the CD at Tower the other night. I wanted to re-post this to remind people that it's been released in America so no one has to pay import prices now. Yay! I can't really add anything to the above except that personally I *love* this album. It's so beautiful! I think, yes, it is now my favorite Bel Canto album. Vickie vickie@pilot.njin.net _________ |_ _ | _ Fuzzy Blue Wonderland "We're waking up |__|_ ||_| "There is a road straight yes it's good" to my heart" ======================================================================== Date: Sun, 11 Oct 92 23:25:46 EDT From: Ode Subject: Homeground interview Angelos writes: (from yeah, I know, a long *long* time ago) > Tim writes: > > >Third, how much exposure has Happy got in the *non-net* Kate Bush fan clubs?Is > >Homeground a regular fanzine? Was there a Happy article in Homeground? > >I'm wondering because I want to know if any of the local hard-core Kate fans > >will have already heard of Happy. > > I am sure Vickie will answer this, as she was going to write an article about > Happy for Homeground, for which the first ecto-Happy interview was conducted. I just wrote to Peter at Homeground and said that, once they got an account in London (cheaper for them than the Big Sky BBS) that I would e-mail the interview and some other tidbits and they could do whatever they want with it. I never got around to writing an intro, but Krys and Peter can make up an intro themselves. They should be Ecto subscribers any day now too! Vickie ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 07:53:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Neile Graham Subject: Thanks to all Thank to all of you for your happy birthday messages--I really had a wonderful b-day. My husband, a lurker around these electronic waves, gave me a little ghetto blaster for work. So far I've played my selections from our 5 Happy cds tape over & over & over. :) Haven't made any converts at work yet, though. Maybe if I felt I could turn the volume up to a more audible level.... Thanks for all your good wishes! Oh, and Vickie, I am working on those tapes I promised so you'll have some more selections for the Canadian and Celtic tapes. I'm glad there was such a positive response to the suggestion. I think they'll be a lot of fun. Greetings to everyone out in ecto-land. --Neile neile@u.washington.edu ======================================================================== The ecto archives are on hardees.rutgers.edu in ~ftp/pub/hr. There is an INDEX file explaining what is where. Feel free to send me things you'd like to have added. -- jessica (jessica@ns1.rutgers.edu)