Errors-To: ecto-owner@ns1.rutgers.edu Reply-To: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu Sender: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu From: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu To: ecto-request@ns1.rutgers.edu Bcc: ecto-digest-outbound@ns1.rutgers.edu Subject: ecto #875 ecto, Number 875 Monday, 22 November 1993 Today's Topics: *-----------------* SF Examiner Jane review A quick thing or two Tom Cruise/Lestat Borders Fwamebate! Ovah heah! driving and tribe shows Re: A quick thing or two stuff Kirsty bits ======================================================================== Date: Sun, 21 Nov 93 15:33:43 PST From: dixon@physics.berkeley.edu (David Dixon) Subject: SF Examiner Jane review Copied w/o permission from the San Francisco Examiner, 11/15/93 PERSONAL AS UNIVERSAL, Jane Siberry gives her blessing by Barry Walters Billed as an "It-Ain't-a-Concert Concert" and categorized in the fan club information as a "Sib-gather," Jane Siberry's early Saturday night engagement, one of two at the Great American Music Hall, was one of the most rewarding musical evenings of the year, no matter what you want to call it. Bringing together poetry reading, solo performance on electric guitar and grand piano, video projection, storytelling and a final Q&A session, this date on her measly six-city tour played with concert conventions to great effect. Although she sang only a handful of songs, the Canadian singer-songwriter gave more of herself than most musicians offer during a regular evening's worth of music. Her American following is small but devoted and rightfully so. Recalling the glory days of both Joni Mitchell and Kate Bush, Siberry creates an intensely personal mood with her songs, a kind of spirituality that doesn't draw attention to itself and is yet deeply felt. Her arty indulgences are part of the fun, lighter moments that offset the seriousness of her subjects. Wry one second, sincere the next with a comic's sense of timing and a gift for giving her confessions a sense of universality, Siberry is a delight to watch and a blessing to hear. Although much of her music bears the mark of a troubled soul, her self- deprecating performance style and gentle manner couldn't make one more at ease. Her show seemed designed to get the audience working by beginning with the challenging stuff and gradually helping it relax with more down-to- earth material. Siberry opened with a lengthy stream-of-consciousness poem that mixed abusive imagery with periodic flashes of humor. Dealing with the struggle to overcome critical thoughts inflicted by oneself, the poem concluded that "Clownliness is closest to godliness," a typically Siberrian observation. She shifted gears by showing one of the most obscure of her rarely shown (in America) videos, "The Bird in the Gravel." Its symbolism remained difficult to interpret, but its haunting, climactic music enchanted. This was followed by the first of four unreleased songs. Accompanying herself on a bright red guitar drenched in reverb, Siberry sang about searching for a lover, her voice strong and expressive. Her sense of pitch and overall musicality has grown tremendously, a maturity suggested by her latest album, "When I Was a Boy," but Siberry has never sounded this confident, this radiant. Videos for that album followed, including two "trailers" she filmed that are probably too sexy and funny and creative to ever be used as TV advertising. "I feel like I'm in a really great space right now," Siberry quipped, followed by her impersonation of what happened between finishing the album and having it released. (She sat still with a look of patient determination that gave way to dazed exasperation.) While explaining how the video for "Sail Across the Water" was made, she admitted, "It's easy to do a wankish video" and pointed out, "People just want to be told a story." This Siberry can do as well as she sings. After a song at the piano inspired by a character in "David Copperfield," Siberry switched back to guitar, singing first about her mother and then about a hospital patient confronting madness. She delivered "At the Beginning of Time," breaking midway to show another trailer before finishing the song. The evening concluded with Siberry taking questions from the audience, then singing "The Vigil," about watching her mother die. It was more moving than could be imagined. -30- Does anyone else think this guy needs a copy of _RhodeSongs_? :) D^2 ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 22 Nov 93 02:55:00 +1100 From: anthony@xymox.apana.org.au (Anthony Horan) Subject: A quick thing or two My news feed formatted the news spool, and a couple of days' worth of Ecto that was waiting there for me to get around to polling for it is lost to me forever. Hrumph. Luckily I grabbed the entire Ecto spool from the feed site's feed site. 400Kb of it. Now I need to sort through it to see what I haven't read yet. In the meantime; I did an interview by phone with Anton Fier of Golden Palominos fame the other day. Serious but nice guy, and he even promised to give Lydia Kavanagh, who sings a couple of the songs on the current album, a ring to get her to send me a copy of her CD. Anyone heard this particular disc? (Lydia's, I mean...) Jens responds: > > Come visit! Are you coming to Melbourne? I'll show you round if you like. > > Pity that Margot's not playing any gigs at that time, as far as I know - > > she's assembling a band. > > Hey, that sounds nice. My last night in Brisbane is between the 9th > and the 10th and I have to be back in Brisbane on the 19th; but in the > meantime I don't have to be anywhere specific... So let me know when > a visit would suit you best... This is December, right? (He checks his memory.. :-) Hmm. Best days of the week would be Sunday/Monday/Tuesday, as I'm less busy then than the rest of the week. And I can't find a calendar! > No Margot gigs? Tsk, tsk, can't you convince her that a VIP (after > all, I'm an Ectophile! ;-)) is arriving from overseas, so she has to > make a special appearance? :-) :-) You should ring random venues and ask them if they happen to have Margot playing around that time. Then they'll have to panic and book her. :-) > > Yep, bring 'em over! Then I can introduce you to some of the ultra-deadly > > home brews served at the Station Hotel. :-) > > Uh-oh! ;-) I'll see if I can dig up any Albani 1000 (I've never tasted > them...). Albani 1000! Sounds like a wicked brew devised by Steve Albini's distant cousin. Feedback beer. Yup. Yum. :-) > > SAS/C is *supposed* to be fully ANSI compliant. My guess is that maybe the > > 32-bit nature of my particular Amiga confused the program somewhat... > > Ah, I meant that the code is probably K&R C; SAS/C is indeed very > close to ANSI. But as the code compiles fine on a A3000 with GCC, I'd > doubt that it's the Amiga architecture which confuses things... One for the more experienced programmers out there, I think. :-) > Neile reports on the latest acquisitions: > > > Then we went to Portland on Saturday, and scored big: Mae Moore's > > _Bohemia_ for Jens for $4(!), Thomas Dolby's _The Flat Earth_ for $8, They're discounting Mae's album already? Hasn't it only been out in the US for a few weeks? Anthony ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Anthony Horan, Melbourne Australia - anthony@xymox.apana.org.au "I kind of feel like I'm Metallica..." - Tori Amos on the perils of long tours, November 1992 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- ======================================================================== Date: Sun, 21 Nov 93 22:50:06 EST From: kosky@saul.cis.upenn.edu (Anthony Kosky) Subject: Tom Cruise/Lestat I curious as to why people are so anti Tom Cruise. I've only seen him in two films, namely Rainman and Born on the 4th of July, both of which he was _Excellent_ in. Admittedly none of the other films I've heard of that he's been in I've seen, since most of them sounded like rather bad films. Consequently I'd view him as a good actor who's willing to take parts in uninspiring movies that make him alot of maney. Discounting him as an actor seems unfair though. Also he seems sufficiently tall, good-looking and "cool" to make a reasonably good Lestat. I think my main objection would be simply that Interview With a Vampire isn't a book that you could do justice to in a movie, and anyone they cast in the parts would seem ill-suited. (though Sting, in his Brimstone and Treacle days might have been good). -Anthony ======================================================================== Subject: Borders Date: Sun, 21 Nov 93 23:11:57 -0500 From: jeffy@syrinx.umd.edu Beth and I were out with some friennds of mine tonight. One of them works for Borders (yes, the bookshop so recently in our discussions) and his store just moved into a bigger space and started carrying CDs at the beginning of this past week. He mentioned that he bought _Equipoise_ at the shop! I think it was the only HTR CD they had, but hey, at least they had it! Jeff |Jeffrey C. Burka | "When I look in the mirror, I see a little clearer/ | |SAFH Lite [tm] | I am what I am and you are you too./ Do you like | |jeffy@syrinx.umd.edu | what you see? Do you like yourself?" --N. Cherry | ======================================================================== From: Tree of Schnopia Subject: Fwamebate! Ovah heah! Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1993 00:28:56 -0500 (EST) You know... ...TRS and TSW run circles 'round *each other*, while NFE, HoL, and TD are busy running 'round each other right beside them. Tree, what was *I* thinking? Drewcifah -- Andrew D. Simchik, as010b@uhura.cc.rochester.edu, Tree of Schnopia YYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY "In her breast pocket she wore a fish called Angela, of which I have the duplicate, Eric."--Robyn Hitchcock, "Certainly Clickot" ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 22 Nov 93 01:04:25 EST From: jessica@maurolycus.rutgers.edu (jessica) Subject: driving and tribe shows Well, good news: I've got my license back, at least until I go to court. (And it only cost $90! I still owe the DMV $290, but I can pay it in installments. Wow. I certainly feel pretty dumb. If i'd just payed the $90 6 months ago, I wouldn't have gotten in trouble. But I'm learning - not paying the bills has a lot to do with being depressed, not taking care of myself. I'm learning to take care of myself now... If anything this situation helps 'cause it pushes me to get that part of my life straightened out.) more good news: Got to see Tribe in concert twice in one week. even better news: hung out with Terri and Eric (keyboardist and guitar player, both do a lot of writing for the band) after both shows. The first show was thursday night, in South Plainfield, which is really close to Rutgers. woj already described this evening :) Since they were literally just down the road, we invited them to come see my office and see the machine on which the Tribe archives live, and we showed them WWW and Mosaic.. It was great! We then went to Cafe Newz in New Brunswick and had tea.. finally driving them back to their hotel at 3am.. Friday night, greg and patricia and I went into NYC to see them at The Grand. It was the best I've ever seen them - what a show! The club is pretty nice - not too small, not too big; *excellent* sound, nice layout - ----||------------||----------\ = \...S.....= |-----| \...T.....\ | bar | \...A....| |-----| \...G..| |_ __ \...E| |.....\ \..| |......---\ \| |raised....\ | |.seating../ | |..with./-----| | |little/ sound| | |tables| booth| | |......|------| | |......| | |.......\ | |........\ | |........| | |......../ _____ | |-- --/ / \ | | / bar \ | | |_________| | | | ---------------------- -------- I think I just like drawing pictures :) The band really sounded fantastic, and they were very energetic and obviously enjoying themselves. There wasn't a *huge* crowd, but all of the people there were *really* enjoying this show. We ran into a guy wearing a very nice sandman T-shirt. We talked with him a bit abotu Neil and Tori and Tribe and comics in general. He says there's a "Death" show at - ohno, we forget the name of the place.. shoot. Someplace in manhattan, through this saturday (nov 27). Well, if we can remember where it is, I'll let you know (and we'll probably go). Then we went with Terri and Eric (and eric's sister-in-law and a friend of hers) to a french cafe greg&patricia&I had been to before. It was so great!!! what wonderful people. I wish they lived closer. *sigh*. we left them at 3am again, this time with hugs all around. They will be on the Colin O'Brien (is that his name? the guy who took over the late night show) show this thursday (thanksgivig) night. make sure you watch!!!! Tell everyone you know to watch too!! I am pretty sure this is their first major TV performance (maybe only one so far). Also look for the supercollider video on MTV! *sigh* it may be on 120 minutes tonight, and I won't know nor see it, 'cause i'm stuck at work. jessica ======================================================================== Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1993 22:25:30 -0800 (PST) From: Ectophiles Guide Subject: Re: A quick thing or two Anthony Horan was asking about the Mae Moore disc we found on our weekend trip to Portland, Oregon. I should have explained that it was a used disc, most like ly a promo copy as there's a punch out of the bar code on the back. I haven't seen any copy on sale other than for the usual one or two dollars less than the full price that Tower often offers on new releases. It's interesting that they use a different picture on the cover--There's a switch. The picture the Canadian one has on the cover appears in the interior of the U.S. booklet exactly where the picture that the U.S. one has on the cover is in the Canadian booklet. I wonder why they did that. --Neile neile@u.washington.edu ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 22 Nov 93 01:40:42 EST From: mojzes@monet.rutgers.edu (brni) Subject: stuff hi y'all, just playing catchup after being away since tuesday. we've been having link problems here at lovely vanillanova (the School Where Everyone is the Same), and so i got many a response to things before the actual post they were responding to arrived. *HUGS* to jessica (i forgot to put that in to the letter i sent you, jessica. sorry.) well, that was the important statement. everything else is secondary and peripheral. emily and my anniversary is on a february 29th, so last feb 28th at midnight we celebrated our 1/4 anniversary with teal margaritas. we used cuervo gold and squeezed real limes, and then found out that the closest thing to triple sec we had was in my roommate's liquor cabinet: blue caracoa (or however you spell it). it turned out to be a *lovely* shade of teal, and i highly recommend it (even tho its not quite as good as real margaritas). >From: snpf@ugcs.caltech.edu (The Duchess Of York) > >By the way. I'm not anti-gender or anti-mail. >It is important to recognize each gender and that there are not >any limits based on gender (except actually giving birth and nursing). > anti-mail? sound's like my SO's dog--she *hates* the mailperson! :> there are some other differences, such as upper body strength...(although i'm not one to talk about upper body strength :) some people distinguish (rightly, i believe) that gender differences and sex differences are not the same thing, that sex differences are biological in nature (different sexual organs, facial hair, etc) and gender differences are cultural. not that i can actually put together a grammatical sentence this late at night on this busy a day... >I like womyn. It looks cool. i like womyn, too, but not exclusively... :> >-seanympf > you know, i don't know what it is, but every time i see this name, i pronounce it like 2 words: seany muff. i guess if you were native american, it would be shawnee muff.... its supposed to be sea nymph, yes? i don't know why my brain insists on reading it otherwise... ********************************* >From: imy@wcl-rs.bham.ac.uk (Ian Young) >Instead, it looks like they've got a couple of each type of fruit, >photo'd them largely individually, cut off the background and montaged >them together (not unlike the Cocteau's cover, except that it's an >over rather than an XOR). > this isn't really that hard to do with current photography technology, especially if you're only enlarging to the size of a cd cover. all you need is some photo's of fruit (which they might have already had for advertisements for the food section of a newspaper or magazine), and then they can multiply them, rotate them, etc, without ever getting their hands sticky... >And where's the bloody pomegranate? > i bought one of the damned things to commemorate the album, but haven't figured out how to eat it yet...any advice? >I. ********************************** >From: kyrlidis@templeton.cchem.berkeley.edu (Angelos Kyrlidis) >to complain about a few things. First, the Bowie collection doesn't include >some of my favorite 80's singles of his (like 'This is not America', >'Underground' and 'When the wind blows') but has some relatively lame album >singles ('Loving the Alien', 'Never let me down' etc). But it included hmmmm. i actually liked "loving the alien"--it was the best song off the _lets dance_ album. "this is not america" is not bowie. well, it's him singing, but he didn't write the song or perform the music. that was done by pat metheny and lyle mays and can be found on the soundtrack of "the falcon and the snowman" (which is all very worthwhile music, btw). another p.m./l.m. album of worth is _offramp_. there was another song that bowie sang on but didn't write that was really amazing: "cat people." bowie *did* release that one as a single himself, but he rewrote the music for it, and made it sound just like everything he wrote for _lets dance_, and it was horrible. >Angelos well, i think this is it for tonight. i'll try to get completely caught up tomorrow. best brni ======================================================================== Date: Mon, 22 Nov 93 2:30:39 EST From: WretchAwry Subject: Kirsty bits I actually did something productive today, besides sleeping, which is always wonderfully productive. I actually, honest-to-goodness, really and truly, believe it or not, transcribed the Kirsty bits! Geugh, I hate transcribing tape-recorded interviews, it's so tedious. Listen, type, rewind, listen type rewind, listen type rewind listen type rewind, listentyperewindlistentyperewind... Blah! Even the most interesting interviews don't make the boring job of transcribing any easier. It's such a tedious job that I was almost tempted to go wash the dishes! For me, that's really getting desperate, believe it! (I'm ok now though, and didn't give in to the temptation. The last time I washed the dishes was ...uh...oh yeah, when Christo visited ..."I wish I were June Cleaver"... and I'll probably wash them again sometime this week to commemorate Kiri and Court's visit.) Well, I was trying to decide if I should post the "raw" version or the "edited" version, and I remembered that I never posted the edited Sheila Chandra interview. I went looking for it and found it, then realized why I never posted it. Mainly because part of the edited version got deleted accidentally, and I never got around to finishing it. *sigh* I am so spacey and procrastinating *sigh* So, I have both Kirsty versions finished, and I'll post both under different Subject Lines. Next project: Jane! Vickie ======================================================================== The ecto archives are on hardees.rutgers.edu in ~ftp/pub/hr. There is an INDEX file explaining what is where. Feel free to send me things you'd like to have added. -- jessica (jessica@ns1.rutgers.edu)