Errors-To: ecto-owner@ns1.rutgers.edu Reply-To: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu Sender: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu From: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu To: ecto-request@ns1.rutgers.edu Bcc: ecto-digest-outbound@ns1.rutgers.edu Subject: ecto #870 ecto, Number 870 Wednesday, 17 November 1993 Today's Topics: *-----------------* Re: Fuzzy Blue Drinks Secret Trax / Dad, I'm in JAIL Re: i've had a bad day Thanks Re: fuzzy blue drinks Re: Thanks first jane release In Hiding Oh, dear! Poor Albert! Arson Garden/Bowie/Eno Re: ecto #861 Ah, sweet Jane Denver and Anaheim Oblique Strategies Oh, one more thing Blue days and blue drinks FTE from Christian Re: fuzzy blue drinks & licences Totally Unrelated Whatevers fizzy blue beverage ======================================================================== Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1993 08:46:38 -0800 (PST) From: Ectophiles Guide Subject: Re: Fuzzy Blue Drinks On Wed, 17 Nov 1993 S.L.Fagg@bnr.co.uk wrote: > What colour is the regular coloured curacao? Orange, like its flavour. At least in Canada. > I've only ever come across the blue coloured variety... It might be the standard for everywhere else in the world. My mother had never heard of blue curacao, either, and when I told her how it had made the punch look she told me I could have used any orange-flavoured liqueur. But it wouldn't have been nearly as much fun. > It sounds like *marvelous* stuff! > > How about posting the recipe? 3 bottles champagne 2/3 Cup berry sugar (aka granulated sugar in the US) 1 bottle soda 4 oz. brandy 4 oz. curacao Make in that order or the soda fizzes all over. BTW, this is from memory, so I might have to correct this when I get home & check the recipe. > Or is it a family secret?? :-) Well, it's a family secret *now*, isn't it? :) One word of warning: it tastes innocuous. It isn't. --Neile neile@u.washington.edu ======================================================================== Date: 17 Nov 93 11:58:02 EST From: Mike Mendelson Subject: Secret Trax / Dad, I'm in JAIL Jessy James warbles: |I like the second (well, actually third, if you |count the second version on the single) version of |possesion too. it's not listed on the album track |listing, and it has a funny negative time listing |on the cd player. weird. Does everyone else's album |(who has it so far) have this too? I haven't seen |mention of it. On my CD player, the last track is just listed as lasting 9:xx minutes, but after the first 4 or so, it cuts out, she plays some funny diddly thing, then the secret possession mix (mostly acoustic) comes on. No negative numbers, though. This is the Canadian disk. Sounds to me Jessica, like you've been subject to a horribly unfortunate convergence of circumstances coupled with a reluctance to straighten the misunderstandings out that resulted in chaos. Hope you get a good judge! :-) [you know where to look for hundreds of character witnesses, right?] -lawabiding(forthemostpart)mjm ======================================================================== Date: Wed, 17 Nov 93 12:01:03 -0500 From: barry@gnu.ai.mit.edu Subject: Re: i've had a bad day WretchAwry sez: >Thanks for telling the whole story. I can't believe how *tough* >New Jersey is wrt the suspensions you got! I've never heard of >such stiff penalties for such piddly infractions. Yow!! There are some resons why New Jersey is so stringent like this. Alot of it has to do with like insurance in New Jersey, it's like one of the highest in the country I believe. Anyways, their attempt to lower it is to try to make drivers drive safer and lower the rates bye penalizing drivers heavily for any offence. Doesn't matter whether your in the right or not, your best bet is to just pay the fine and get on with your life in NJ. I got a speeding ticket recently, and there was no way I was going that fast, besides the fact they said they got me with a radar gun, they pulled over two cars in front of me for speeding too. It wasa setup, because the cop was already standing in the middle of the road waiting for us when we were still about 1/4 mile away. I knew I should'vedriven real slow around then, because it was around a holiday and the cops in the area generally stop alot more vehicles then, because kids are back from college etc. After about two trips to court, it was reduced to the minimum, but I thought that was totally bogus, since everyone at court had their's redueced to like the minimum. Oh well, pay the stupid fine, stop wasting time going to court, sign up for driver improvement school or whatever it's calleed so that the minute theypost the points for the ticket, they'll go away since I took the stupid course. barry ======================================================================== From: C. Boek Subject: Thanks Date: Wed, 17 Nov 93 18:15:19 MET Another vote of thanks to Klaus and Claudia for EctoFest last weekend. It was great to see all the new faces. I hope to increase that number when I visit England in a month or so. Anyway, that's all really wanted to say. Chris ======================================================================== Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1993 10:18:49 -0700 From: "Alex Gibbs" Subject: Re: fuzzy blue drinks "emilyb" : > > Fuzzy Blue Drinks? Not... not... Blue Curacao and Lemonade? Mmmmmmmmm... :) > > Well, if a Fuzzy Navel is peach schnapps and orange juice, shouldn't a Fuzzy > Blue be peach schnapps and Blue Curacao? (Of course, I can't imagine what Cool idea! One of my most favourite drinks is a Blue Hawaiian. I really don't know what's in it (probably this blue curacao stuff) other than pineapple juice but the pineapple juice makes it look fuzzy! It's almost neon blue/aqua. Best of all it tastes great and people would always ask me what it was cause of it's color. :) --- AlexGibbs arg@kilimanjaro.opt-sci.arizona.edu |\| | (~, |-| ~|~ |-| /-\ \/\/ |< "A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools." "Have you ever seen a picture of Jesus laughing? Mmm, do \ Why Should I you think He had a beautiful smile? A smile that healed." \ Love You? ======================================================================== From: S.L.Fagg@bnr.co.uk Subject: Re: Thanks Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1993 17:23:49 +0000 (GMT) On Wed, 17 Nov 93 at 18:15:19 MET "C." Boek wrote: > Another vote of thanks to Klaus and Claudia for EctoFest last weekend. > It was great to see all the new faces. I hope to increase that number when > I visit England in a month or so. When are you comming over? And where do you plan on visiting? Any chance of my getting to meet the Australian Ectophile from Holland? -- Regards Steve Fagg ( S.L.Fagg@bnr.co.uk +44-279-402437 ) BNR Europe Ltd., London Road, Harlow, Essex, CM17 9NA, UK *** "Better drowned than duffers. If not duffers, won't drown". *** ======================================================================== Date: Wed, 17 Nov 93 11:43:06 CST From: courtney Subject: first jane release seems there is a local music store around that is carrying the re-release of Jane Siberry's first album...there are two copies at last check..anyone interested..send me email. It might take me a while to get to it since i have such a backload.!!! Courtney (p.s. one copy is already claimed by me!*smile*) ======================================================================== Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1993 11:16:40 -0700 From: "Alex Gibbs" Subject: Re: i've had a bad day jessica@maurolycus.rutgers.edu (jessica): > *sigh*sigh*sigh*. I guess I deserved this, and I guess > it's good for me to learn my lesson and get forced to get > my act together. argh though. :( You and your friend didn't deserve to be treated that way by the cop and the ambulance, especially when she really needed to get to the doctor! It's not like he was after you for doing something that could hurt someone. You were actually in the process of trying to help someone and he not only stopped that but didn't do anything useful to continue that help. I wish people would get a view! What a jerk. --- AlexGibbs arg@kilimanjaro.opt-sci.arizona.edu |\| | (~, |-| ~|~ |-| /-\ \/\/ |< "A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools." "Have you ever seen a picture of Jesus laughing? Mmm, do \ Why Should I you think He had a beautiful smile? A smile that healed." \ Love You? ======================================================================== From: Albert Philipsen Subject: In Hiding Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1993 20:17:01 +0100 (MET) Because of some personal problems, I won't be able to access my usual account (awphili@cs.vu.nl) for a while. I unsubscribed from Ecto, but I hope to be back in January. I'll be missing you all. Please don't reply to this address. Albert "...forever in hiding." - Happy ======================================================================== Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1993 14:26:21 -0500 (EST) From: HOLLY@umbc2.umbc.edu Subject: Oh, dear! Poor Albert! I just got a very sad email message from Albert. He won't be getting Ecto for a while as he's sort of lost the use of his account until January. Anyway, I thought that it might be nice if folk could send Albert a postcard or a little note of well-wishing via snail mail. Here's his address: Albert W. Philipsen Berkenweide 16 1647 BH Berkhout The Netherlands Thanks, Holly ======================================================================== Date: Wed, 17 Nov 93 11:39:43 PST From: kyrlidis@templeton.cchem.berkeley.edu (Angelos Kyrlidis) Subject: Arson Garden/Bowie/Eno Hi all, I woke up this morning earlier than usual (my apartment in Oakland is across from a mini-shopping center, which some local rappers decided to use at 7:30 to promote their show by blasting music from their van) and called up Vertebrae to find out about the new Arson Garden that woj posted about. The news is both good and bad. Apparently Arson Garden have left Vertebrae and are now on a new indie label, which has *lots* of financial support and plans to promote them a lot. The new album will be that label's first release, and apparently isn't out yet (or that's what their ex-label told me). It was nice though, because the person I talked to was very supportive of the band and shared the same enthusiasm about them as I did. She said that Vertebrae would never come up with the money that the new guys are willing to spend on AG, and that they deserve as much recognition as they get. So, that was my morning activity :) Last night I went on a spending frenzy and bought the new Bowie singles collection, and the new Eno box set. Both are amazing. Of course I *have* to complain about a few things. First, the Bowie collection doesn't include some of my favorite 80's singles of his (like 'This is not America', 'Underground' and 'When the wind blows') but has some relatively lame album singles ('Loving the Alien', 'Never let me down' etc). But it included 'Little drummer boy/Peace on earth', so I am happy :) Then, the Eno box set leaves out one of my favorite songs from Tiger Mountain 'The fat lady of Limbourg'... That means that I will have to keep listening to that on tape... Ah well. Things could be worse. D^2 will be happy to know that D'Cuckoo are credited for Marimba on one song ('Stiff'). There's lots of other things I wanted to post about, but cleaning up my mailbox caused me to delete lots of digests, and so you will be spared. Angelos ======================================================================== Date: Wed, 17 Nov 93 17:50:53 From: dbburke@mit.edu (Diane Burke) Subject: Re: ecto #861 Hi all. I've been lurking, trying to figure out what ECTO's all about. At first I read everything very carefully, noting names of all these different musicians, groups, scifi authors, etc... I just don't have time to do that. In fact there are several digests I haven't looked at yet. Anyway...what I want to say is I love seeing people's top 5 HR songs. I went to HMV to get something else and found that they did indeed have Vol I, II, Ecto, and something else. Warpaint was long gone! Last 5 times I went to HMV they had zip. I didn't know which to buy so I got Vol I. I was so happy. I now have two HR cds. And I've decided to just go ahead and buy them all. Because I'm so pleased with what she does. This is different for me. My cd collection consists of one or maybe two cds from each artist. I bought TRS. I listened to it twice, maybe I need to listen a few more times, but I wasn't impressed. I did like BSL though. TRS didn't make me dance. But you know what, I didn't get interested in ECTO because of KB anyway. Angelos has kindly sent me compilation tapes so I can sample stuff. Hi Angelos! In the beginning...I rushed out to buy cds, and I can't afford to buy them on mere references. Enuf said. It is hard to decide on 5 favorites, especially when I read other people's lists. "Oh yeah, _Flaming Threshold_ Oh yeah, _Feed the Fire_, Oh yeah..." My list: Feed the Fire (accoustic) Possessed Oh the Drears Number One Can't remember the name (sacrilege!) The Flight Flaming Threshold (So, I can't count too good, so shoot me. Not an easy task.) But, I don't have Warpaint, Rhodesongs, Vol II. I have mixed tapes and I don't recognize many of the songs mentioned by you-all. It's good to hear more about HR and less about KB. IMHO. I believe I have reached the bottom of my trunkful of things to say. Oh, one more thing. I want a HR tee-shirt!!! How do I get one? And now I slither back into the shadows. dbb ======================================================================== Date: Wed, 17 Nov 93 14:11:03 PST From: dixon@physics.berkeley.edu (David Dixon) Subject: Ah, sweet Jane It's taken me awhile, but durnit I'm finally going to post something about the Jane Siberry concert in San Fran on Saturday. So here goes: Let me preface this by saying that I've been waiting to see Jane in concert for about six years, so I was psyched. Well, gosh, what can I say? Jane's definitely in a class by herself. She's a prime example of what I'd call a random-access performer. Her songs and her way of speaking are non-linear with a vengeance.. her spoken-word monologue at the beginning of the show reminded me a lot of a performance art piece I saw on PBS some time ago called "Men Die Sooner" by Tom Kaler, in which Kaler switches between about seven different personalities in the blink of an eye. Jane's opening bit had that mosaic feel about it. Often hilarious, too. I won't go through a piece-by-piece description of what went on during the concert, since that's already been posted. I'd say that the highlight was her final performance, a solo piano version of "The Vigil". During the question-and-answer period, I *wanted* to say "Did you listen to the Happy Rhodes CD you got from Vickie in Detroit?" but decided not to. I was too far back to get a word in edgewise anyway. Someone asked a very good question.. "How famous do you want to be?" Her response was that she'd like to be famous enough that people who would be interested in her work would at least have the opportunity to be aware of it; anything more than that would be conspicuous notoriety. All in all, a fine concert. I got the shirt, too. :) Do you want to add anything, Emily? D^2 ======================================================================== Date: 17 Nov 93 17:12:53 EST From: Mike Mendelson Subject: Denver and Anaheim I will be in Denver, CO next week for Thanksgiving. I will be in Anaheim, CA 3rd week in December. If there are any ectophiles in either of these locations who might want to get together, I'll have some free time to mess around with in both places. The best thing to do (unless you have very specific ideas of things to do or times of parties I should attend or stuff like that) if you want to get together is to send me your address and phone number and I'll call you when I arrive. I'm not sure exactly where I'm staying in each place yet, but the trips are *very* likely to happen (depending, of course, on american airlines :-). Give me a shout. Hope I can meet you! -mjm ======================================================================== Date: Wed, 17 Nov 93 14:13:58 PST From: dixon@physics.berkeley.edu (David Dixon) Subject: Oblique Strategies To all who are interested in getting a deck of home-made Oblique Strategies cards: I've found out that the cost of laminating all the cards would amount to at least $8 per deck, so they're going to be just plain old blue cardstock. If you want a deck, send $4 to me at: David Dixon 4021 Piedmont Ave. #1 Oakland, CA 94611 Doug Burks, shall I send you a deck to put in the HGP package? D^2 ======================================================================== Date: Wed, 17 Nov 93 14:16:09 PST From: dixon@physics.berkeley.edu (David Dixon) Subject: Oh, one more thing If you send $5 instead of $4, I'll include a sampler tape of some cool music you've probably never heard (D'Cuckoo, Chuck Brodsky, The Quitters, myself :), etc.) D^2 ======================================================================== Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1993 18:07:08 -0500 (EST) From: Chris Sampson Subject: Blue days and blue drinks I-forget-who worries over the taste sensation of a Fuzzy Blue (presumably peach schnapps and blue curacao). Blue Curacao is orange flavored (a la triple sec, as opposed to Grande Marnier). Peach Schnapps (skips the obvious). Probably this would be very tasty, but a little thick. We could add some vodka or rum or something to punch it up and thin out the consistency or something.....If I had some schnapps I could have some schnapps and curacao. Jessica has had a really bad day. While I'm not as touchy feely as most on the fuzzy blue list, I must extend a *HUG* to Jessica. What a preposterous situation to find oneself in. It reminds me of the movie "With Liberty and Justice for All"...though I doubt it will end as badly for you...seriously, perhaps I shouldn't've mentioned that movie. The cop sounds like your average stormtrooper, let's.....think bad thoughts about him. I ued to live on Long Island, and so have my car most recently registered there. Three years ago I moved to CT and tried to get my car registered here. The title is in my father's name (though I paid off the loan) and there WAS a lien held by the bank. Unlike LI, you can't register the car in someone else's name, only in the name of the titled owner. Also unlike LI, you get the inspection first (on LI you get the registration and a 10day temporary inspection). So I drive past the inspection station (< 1 mile from my house) and go to the DMV. I get there and find out I have to double back the 15 miles to the inspection station BEFORE the paperwork can be done. At the inspection station, they scrape off my NY registration and put the new inspection sticker on my windshield. I get back to the DMV and the first person who sees my title says "Hmmmmmmmmm, you're not the owner......a lien?.,.....Well, we won't tell anyone (smiles) " "Great", I think. Well, I go to the OTHER line and the woman there frowns. "Can't do this" (conspicuous lack of smiles). "But...". Well the upshot is that I no longer have a NY registration sticker, neither do I have a CT registration, nor any sort of sticker so that the car even LOOKS okay from a distance. 2 days later, while I was still wondering what the HELL I was gonna do, my SECOOND YEAR of my registration (I forgot I bought 2 years last time) is actually forwarded to me....IN CT! "Well" says I, "...fuck 'em if they can't take a joke" and I now have the NY registration. Fast forward 1 year, and Chris STILL hasn't gotten the free title from NY, so that even with the 1 year grace period, he is now driving an unregistered car (though it IS insured, and how that is even possible is beyond my comprehension). Well, I went to Manhattan last weekend and overnight, I got 3 parking tix (totalling $165!). I don't know exactly what they're for, since I don't know the NY statutes by # and section. Now I have to mail the title to NY and hope that I beat the paperwork on the tix. (This story started well, got better and then totally failed to get off at the end). I am in limbo. One of the tix says "missing front plate", which as I read it while trying to get home, I couldn't verify until later (at which point I found that it WAS there????). Not to mention that I wasn't parked illegally, anyway. I don't know. The DMV is evil (regardless of the state). Burn down the DMV (heh heh) Fire is good (heh heh). Yeah (heh heh twitch). Jessica, I hope this works out for you. I have a hard time visualizing you in jail (for that matter at all, since I don't recall what you look like from the QE2 concert, as I didn't know any of you yet). Hey, I know I'll cheer you up with a joke: This guy can't get his song recorded, so he goes to a vanity studio and pays the $500 to record it himself (even though it won't get distributed). Proprietor: We're gonna give you Levin on the bass. Guy: TONY Levin!? P: No, Peter Levin. He's not too bad, when he's sober. Anyway, we've got Marotta on the drums. G: JERRY Marotta!? P: No, Georg Marotta, but he's okay, reasonably priced, and can pretty well keep a beat. We've got Bartlett on the guitar. G: KEVIN Bartlett!? P: No, Lawrence Bartlett. Again, not too bad. And finally, we got Manilow on vocals.... G: BARRY Manilow!? P: Well, yeah. I couldn't resist. So shoot me (with a non-automatic gun.) Chris the unrepentant. ======================================================================== Date: Wed, 17 Nov 93 18:05:35 CST From: Courtney Subject: FTE from Christian Christian..consider your offer taken!!! AND I expect it hand delivered! *wink* Seriously, Courtney! ======================================================================== Date: Wed, 17 Nov 93 17:05:34 PST From: erik@falcon.kla.com (Erik Johnson) Subject: Re: fuzzy blue drinks & licences I've been buried in crisis mode for the last two or three weeks, but I'm finally surfacing just in time for some blue drinks! When I was in college, we had a special drink that we called, simply, "blue". It may not have been particularly fuzzy, but it tasted... well, it tasted blue. :-) We never could come up with a better description. It consisted of equal parts blue curacao, rum, vodka, triple sec, and (gin? tequila? it's been too long...), diluted to taste with 7-up. Dilution was essential - the raw Ty-D-Bowl was still about 80 proof. *HUGS* to Jessica - I've been there a few years ago. For me, it was unpaid tickets that caught up with me - I finally had to face reality when I received a bench warrent for my arrest in the mail. I turned myself in & was booked, then released. I had to scratch hard to get together the money to pay off the tickets, but eventually did. It sounds like that particular cop just had too much stormtrooper in his soul. Anyone who grins when he finds out that you're in big trouble is a sadist, and doesn't even need the added anger of being seen as a fool in front of the ambulance attendants to be obnoxious. With all the prison overcrowding problems, they're not going to release drug dealers early to make room for someone with an unpaid parking ticket. ;-) Not even for someone who doesn't pay their DMV bills on time. If you make a good-faith effort to clean up the violations and talk nicely to the judge, you shouldn't even need a lawyer. It'll be expensive, though... *HUGS* to Vickie, too. I wish I'd had more time to say this earlier, but try to hang in there. Remember, even if we can't be there in person, you've got a cheering section of hundreds of people out here. Ecto just wouldn't be the same without our Awry Wretch. :-) Best of luck, and all our best wishes go with you. Erik wow - the outside world still exists! I had wondered... ___________________________________________________________________________ Erik N. Johnson Don't believe any return address KLA Instruments Corp. rumors. The one and only True San Jose, CA Address is e_johnso@kla.com. Fortune presents gifts not according to the book. When you expect flutes, it's whistles. When you expect whistles, it's flutes. -- Dead Can Dance ======================================================================== Date: Thu, 18 Nov 93 01:05:44 MET From: brage@sphere.home.id.dth.dk (Jens P. Brage) Subject: Totally Unrelated Whatevers Hi, > Jens unrelates: Phew, I'm feeling as if *I'm* dissociating, so just some quick follow-ups before I hit my bed: > Come visit! Are you coming to Melbourne? I'll show you round if you like. > Pity that Margot's not playing any gigs at that time, as far as I know - > she's assembling a band. Hey, that sounds nice. My last night in Brisbane is between the 9th and the 10th and I have to be back in Brisbane on the 19th; but in the meantime I don't have to be anywhere specific... So let me know when a visit would suit you best... No Margot gigs? Tsk, tsk, can't you convince her that a VIP (after all, I'm an Ectophile! ;-)) is arriving from overseas, so she has to make a special appearance? :-) > Yep, bring 'em over! Then I can introduce you to some of the ultra-deadly > home brews served at the Station Hotel. :-) Uh-oh! ;-) I'll see if I can dig up any Albani 1000 (I've never tasted them...). >> Well, you should just have used gcc, then it works perfectly! :-) >> Interesting difference, btw, it's probably an ANSI vs. K&R C >> incompatibility... > SAS/C is *supposed* to be fully ANSI compliant. My guess is that maybe the > 32-bit nature of my particular Amiga confused the program somewhat... Ah, I meant that the code is probably K&R C; SAS/C is indeed very close to ANSI. But as the code compiles fine on a A3000 with GCC, I'd doubt that it's the Amiga architecture which confuses things... Neile reports on the latest acquisitions: > Then we went to Portland on Saturday, and scored big: Mae Moore's > _Bohemia_ for Jens for $4(!), Thomas Dolby's _The Flat Earth_ for $8, Neat! Thanks! Jens P. Brage | And I looked up and there they were: Millions brage@sphere.home.id.dth.dk | of tiny teardrops just sort of hanging there. /\ | And I didn't know whether to laugh or cry. \SphereSoft | And I said to myself: What next big sky? ======================================================================== Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1993 20:20:07 -0800 (PST) From: Neile Graham Subject: fizzy blue beverage Well, I checked my recipe, and I had the ingredients right but the order wrong. For my great-grandmother's champagne punch, you mix, in order: 2/3 cup berry sugar (aka granulated sugar) 3 bottles of champagne 1 bottle of soda (club soda 10 or 12 oz) 4 oz brandy 4 oz curacao It's great for special occasions. Oh, and I don't know how we could make this into champagne jam (fizzy blue champagne jam?) I never guessed my great-grandmother's punch recipe would be the missing second link between the fuzzy blue ecto list to Meth's radio show. ;) --Neile neile@u.washington.edu ======================================================================== The ecto archives are on hardees.rutgers.edu in ~ftp/pub/hr. There is an INDEX file explaining what is where. Feel free to send me things you'd like to have added. -- jessica (jessica@ns1.rutgers.edu)