Errors-To: ecto-owner@ns1.rutgers.edu Reply-To: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu Sender: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu From: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu To: ecto-request@ns1.rutgers.edu Bcc: ecto-digest-outbound@ns1.rutgers.edu Subject: ecto #856 ecto, Number 856 Wednesday, 10 November 1993 Today's Topics: *-----------------* Re: Obscenities/Indecencies in broadcasting Margot mailing list Re: Mae Moore? More! More! :-) mae moore WASABI! Not WASABI! birthday presents Re: Happy Boxed Set? 'Shoes cover (was: The Greatest Klaus Ever Told?) Re: Peter Gabriel and grandmothers Sources for new KT imports ======================================================================== Date: Wed, 10 Nov 93 05:08:57 AEDT From: anthony@xymox.apana.org.au (Anthony Horan) Subject: Re: Obscenities/Indecencies in broadcasting In apana.lists.rec.happy-rhodes, article <931108095111.2080366d@neuron.uchc.edu>, you wrote: > As a newly licensed boradcaster, I have had to come to terms with > what can/can't be played on the air. Having the overnight on WHUS, 91.7, > While we're at it, the Pacifica Case [1978] defined indecency as > "languag or material that depicts or describes, in terms patently offensive > as measured by contemporary community standards for the borad cast medium, > sexual or excretory activities or organs." Our manual goes on to say that > this includes, but is not limited to the "seven dirty words", here > reordered in deference to George Carlin: All but three of those seven words may be freely said on Australian TV or radio, some needing an after-9pm timeslot. But language per se is not covered by guidelines for government stations, so JJJ-FM, the Australian national "alternative" station, run by *the government* no less, freely plays anything, no matter what's in it - indeed, the stronger language used, the greater the guarantee of play... :-) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Anthony Horan, Melbourne Australia - anthony@xymox.apana.org.au "I kind of feel like I'm Metallica..." - Tori Amos on the perils of long tours, November 1992 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- ======================================================================== Date: Wed, 10 Nov 93 05:11:58 AEDT From: anthony@xymox.apana.org.au (Anthony Horan) Subject: Margot mailing list It's not what the subject implies, not really...! If you'd like to be added to a list I'm forming of people interested in Margot Smith, and would like to recieve the occasional info posting if she does anything of note, then drop me a bit of mail and I'll add you in. This will be a read-only mailing list! :-) It might help me shut up about Margot in here before you all send me arsenic burgers... :-) Anthony ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Anthony Horan, Melbourne Australia - anthony@xymox.apana.org.au "I kind of feel like I'm Metallica..." - Tori Amos on the perils of long tours, November 1992 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- ======================================================================== Date: Wed, 10 Nov 93 03:40:28 AEDT From: anthony@xymox.apana.org.au (Anthony Horan) Subject: Re: Mae Moore? More! More! :-) Hiya S.L.Fagg, you ended up in my mailbox on Nov 8, lucky you... > > playing it now, and it's definitely EctoFodder - not downright brilliant, but > > with moments of inspiration, especially a track called "Because Of Love". > > What does it sound like? Hmm. Sort of Grace Pool put through a Heidi Berry > > filter and then force-fed into the Kilbey Computer. It's nice. I think I'll > > Had you asked about Mae Moore on Ecto you would probably have got at > least two responses since Neile sent me a tape of "Bohemia" many moons I should have guessed! I meant to ask on Ecto after I heard about the album, but my house-moving exploits put paid to anything I was trying to remember. Anyone know if the US copy has a nicer label than just the black type on plain silver background that the Australian one does? (Default for artists that record companies couldn't care one way or the other about...) > don't recall ever hearing about her before I got the tape, and you are > the first to mention her here since I'm sure. Being force fed through The only reason I heard about it at all was because of the Kilbey Connection (TM); then I get a message two days later from the owner of the Church mailing list asking me if I'd heard of it! Synchronicity... Incidentally, the album's grown on me a lot already. Its growth path in my consciousness should be interesting. "Sleeping With The Lion" is still stuck firmly in there, so firmly that even Kate's finding it hard to get a look in. But then, this kind of music - Margot and Mae - this kind of music is pure pleasure in itself... :) > a computer is certainly not how I would have described the sound, but > then perhaps you meant this as a complement :-) I hadn't realised that I was trying to refer to the drum and other programming running rampant in there; there's not a lot of variety in that infernal beat box on some of the tracks. It's a pretty non-intrusive sound, though. And one comparison I forgot to make is that it's got a dose of the Ingrid Chavez's about it, too. Ingrid minus Prince, that is. :-) > the album was out on CD, I'll be looking for it next time I have a > chance. Anybody (Neile?) know if she's recorded any other albums? It's out on CD in Australia - but then again, it's ONLY on CD! We don't really have vinyl readily available any more. Everything comes out on CD, and if it's big enough it might even come out on cassette! At any rate, Sony Music handle it here, and I assume elsewhere. The album was recorded in Australia, by the way... > Anyway, if you think there truely is a stylistic parallel between Mae > Moore and M*rg*t Sm*ith maybe I should give the latter a try after all. There is. Margot's voice is similar at times, but Margot tends to vary her style more, and has a stronger voice overall. Margot's album is ethereal as well, but in a different way. A slightly darker way, perhaps. Musically, if you like Mae Moore's album, trust me, you'll *love* Margot's album. Anthony ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Anthony Horan, Melbourne Australia - anthony@xymox.apana.org.au "I kind of feel like I'm Metallica..." - Tori Amos on the perils of long tours, November 1992 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- ======================================================================== Date: Wed, 10 Nov 93 00:04:06 EST From: jessica@maurolycus.rutgers.edu (jessica) Subject: mae moore I almost forgot! but happily, someone posted about mae moore and reminded me. when I got into my car this afernoon, i tuned to 88.5 (WXPN philadelphia) as i usually do. There was a woman singing to accoustic guitar. It didn't sound liek anyone I'd heard before, and the lyrics were really captivating. the voice was noting extraordinary but very nice anyway.. it turned out that it was mae moore playing live right there at WXPN! at first i'd really thought it was a recorded song. She played another song before I lost the readio station (driving to work, away from philly) and that one sounded more "live" but also sounded very good, very interesting indeed.. jessica ======================================================================== Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1993 00:36:23 -0500 (EST) From: HOLLY@umbc2.umbc.edu Subject: WASABI! I was going to write something Ecto-related, really, but I just ate a mouthful of sushi and what I thought was a nice big hunk of avacado was actually...WASABI!!! I need to get a tissue now. Holly ======================================================================== Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1993 01:00:30 -0500 (EST) From: HOLLY@umbc2.umbc.edu Subject: Not WASABI! Okay; I've recovered from the wasabi attack. I'm going to write about "The Red Shoes." (everybody else is doing it, so why can't I?) :) I like "Rubberband Girl," though I find it unremarkable. I like "And So is Love" when Kate is wailing plaintively. I really really like "Eat the Music." I bought the cd single of it when it came out and I took it to work. The folks at work liked it so much, one of them bought their own copy of it instead of asking me to make a tape of it. "Moments of Pleasure" is pleasurably tender, and makes me all quiet inside. "The Song of Solomon" is growing on me. I think it's sexy, but I don't like the chorus. "Lily" is cool, but I have difficulty remembering what it sounds like after it's over. "The Red Shoes" is *wonderful!* I can't help but move when this song is on, and if I'm playing the song at work, I dance among the buzzing and humming printers while the students think I'm nuts. But when I look at the students waiting for me to hand them their printouts while this song is playing, I notice they're tapping their feet or drumming their fingers on the counter. This song reminds me why I love Kate. "Top of the City" haunts me. "Constellation of the Heart" is like "Lily" to me in that I can't seem to remember how it goes if I'm not hearing it. "Big Stripey Lie" is a song that will probably annoy me if I don't stop listening to it. "Why Should I Love You?" My mother used to say, "If you can't say anything nice, then don't say anything at all." My mother can be a dull conversationalist, sometimes, but I think I'll keep my mouth shut about this song anyway. "You're the One" almost makes me cry. It's so sad! It sort of reminds me of "Another Suitcase in Another Hall" from the musical "Evita." I don't think I've ever liked any Kate album until I've listened to it a few times and then let it sit for a while. After I let it sit for a while and then listen to it again, I find that I've fallen in love with it. I think I'll let The Red Shoes in a Red Shoes Box for a while and report back later. Holly ======================================================================== Date: Wed, 10 Nov 93 01:34:39 EST From: jessica@maurolycus.rutgers.edu (jessica) Subject: birthday presents we're having so much fun, I just thought i'd share with you all this tip on how to enjoy your work much more. buy nerf weapons! use them with wild abondon on your co-workers! we've had a three-ball-shooting nerf sling-shot type weapon for a while now.. but yesterday, a friend gave me a missile launcher. this is the best yet. the missiles are huge and I keep the thing on the floor but in reach of my foot so if i need to i just stomp on it and *wham* a missile flies across the room, hopefully into someone! So tonight greg bought a 4 missile shooting thing, it fires the 4 in succession. Much quicker than my missile launcher which needs to be reloaded after each shot, but not quite as massive. Now it's an all out nerf war in here!!! jessica ======================================================================== Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1993 09:08:15 GMT From: imy@wcl-rs.bham.ac.uk (Ian Young) Subject: WASABI! er, what is wasabi? Not enormous numbers of sushi eateries in Brum. More of a balti sort of town. ======================================================================== Date: Tue, 9 Nov 93 23:28 MET From: uli@zoodle.robin.de (Ulrich Grepel) Subject: Re: Happy Boxed Set? > Since I now have heard enough Happy songs to convince me to buy all her > CDs, I was wondering if Happy has ever considered putting together > a boxed set of all her releases. Perhaps it could be called > "This Other Woman's Work", or "Monsters and Melodies." That's unfair! I always thought of the best name of a (bootleg) CD that has the Katesongs that are NOT in the boxed set would be "This Woman's Other Work"... Bye, Uli ======================================================================== Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1993 10:43:01 GMT From: imy@wcl-rs.bham.ac.uk (Ian Young) Subject: 'Shoes cover (was: The Greatest Klaus Ever Told?) >>>>> "J" == Jens P Brage writes: J> Wrt. "The Red Shoes" (no, I'm not going to comment on the J> music, it's much too early for that...), I'm surprised no-one J> has commented on the circular promotion insert beneath the J> disk... Or is this specific to the EMI release? I didn't see one in mine, what does it say? Actually, there's something that really bothers me about that cover. The side with the lyrics, it's faked up. Well I know authenticity is pretty much a dead concept these days, but I'd have thought it would be more effective, not to say cheaper, to have got together loads of real fruit, split it open (presumably with devotion), and photo'd it. Instead, it looks like they've got a couple of each type of fruit, photo'd them largely individually, cut off the background and montaged them together (not unlike the Cocteau's cover, except that it's an over rather than an XOR). And where's the bloody pomegranate? I. ======================================================================== From: "Greg O'Rear" Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1993 08:16:53 EST5EDT Subject: Re: Peter Gabriel and grandmothers > "Peter Gabriel... He's from England, isn't he?" "Yes," I said, wondering > how she had heard of him. "Oh," she said, "Muriel H----- [name omitted to > protect the innocent] was a Gabriel before she married. She's a relative > of his. But I didn't think that "Gabriel" was his real name. (Why do I always read these messages at work, away from much-needed documentation? :-) Unless Muriel was a relative and changed her maiden name to "Gabriel" as well. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Greg O'Rear E-mail: orear@ise.ufl.edu Industrial and Systems Engineering Department Phone: (904) 392-3389 University of Florida, Gainesville, Florida FAX: (904) 392-3537 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ======================================================================== Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1993 06:20:53 -0700 From: "Alex Gibbs" Subject: Re: WASABI! imy@wcl-rs.bham.ac.uk (Ian Young): > er, what is wasabi? > Not enormous numbers of sushi eateries in Brum. More of a balti sort > of town. It's damn hot! Seriously it's an innocent-looking green puddy that I *think* is made from horseradish(??). It looks a bit like dried guacamole but eating it raw could kill a horse. A bit is often included in the sushi by the "chef" and usually you mix some of the lump you are given with soy sauce to dip the sushi in. --- Alex Gibbs arg@kilimanjaro.opt-sci.arizona.edu "Without the pain there'd be no learning. \ / Constellation of the Without the hurting we'd never change." /`\ Heart "Have you ever seen a picture of Jesus laughing? Mmm, do `\ Why Should I you think He had a beautiful smile? A smile that healed." `\ Love You? ======================================================================== Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1993 06:33:04 -0700 From: "Alex Gibbs" Subject: Sources for new KT imports I've bought a couple things from IGG and it's been fine but their unofficial box sets are a bit distressing. They do seem to keep up-to-date anyway. In any case I'd like to have other sources for KT imported items. I like C-Side but last time I talked with Tom it didn't sound like he was trying to get much new stuff yet, but that was several weeks ago. So what are some other sources for imported music, video, and posters, especially ones that keep pretty current on Kate? Thanks for the help! --- Alex Gibbs arg@kilimanjaro.opt-sci.arizona.edu "Without the pain there'd be no learning. \ / Constellation of the Without the hurting we'd never change." /`\ Heart "Have you ever seen a picture of Jesus laughing? Mmm, do `\ Why Should I you think He had a beautiful smile? A smile that healed." `\ Love You? ======================================================================== Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1993 10:08:24 -0500 (EST) From: Mary_C._Tabasko@transarc.com Subject: Re: WASABI! Yum! That stuff is great. (And I won't even eat sushi. Reminds me too much of bait. :) -- Kate ======================================================================== From: brianb@netcom.com (Brian Bloom) Subject: Re: WASABI! Date: Wed, 10 Nov 93 7:21:23 PST > imy@wcl-rs.bham.ac.uk (Ian Young): > > er, what is wasabi? > > Not enormous numbers of sushi eateries in Brum. More of a balti sort > > of town. > > It's damn hot! Seriously it's an innocent-looking green puddy that I > *think* is made from horseradish(??). It looks a bit like dried > guacamole but eating it raw could kill a horse. A bit is often > included in the sushi by the "chef" and usually you mix some of the > lump you are given with soy sauce to dip the sushi in. Right, wasabi is a native japanese horseradish. You can find it in oriental markets already as a paste or as a powder that you just add water to. And he's not joking about the burn it can cause. The sushi chef usually wipes a small dash of it on the underside of some of the pieces of fish. They also usually give you a small mound on your tray. I usually savor it by tapping my chopstick into the mound so that a little (and I mean little) piece clings to it. Then pop it in your mouth and spread it across your tongue quickly. Nice zing to it!! (just had sushi for dinner last night, even after getting some on Satuday!) br!an -- __ ____ __ ____ __ __ (__==__) /\ \ / \_\ / /\ / \ \ / |\ / /\ (oo) ( moo.) / \_\ / /\ |_| / / /| /\ \ \ / ||/ / / /-------\/ -' / /\ | |\ \/ /_/_ / / / \ \/ \ \ / |/ / / / | U.T.|| / \/ |_| \ __ \_\ /_/ / \ /\ \_\ / /| / / * ||----|| / /\ ./_/ \ \ \/_/_\_\/ \ \ \/_// / | / / ^^ ^^ \ \/ |_| \ \_\ /_/\ \ \_\ /_/ /|_/ / Br!an Bloom \__/_/ \/_/ \_\/ \/_/ \_\/ \_\/ brianb@netcom.com .. but music hides me so well, ..and reveals me.. oh well - HR ======================================================================== The ecto archives are on hardees.rutgers.edu in ~ftp/pub/hr. There is an INDEX file explaining what is where. Feel free to send me things you'd like to have added. -- jessica (jessica@ns1.rutgers.edu)