Errors-To: ecto-owner@ns1.rutgers.edu Reply-To: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu Sender: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu From: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu To: ecto-request@ns1.rutgers.edu Bcc: ecto-digest-outbound@ns1.rutgers.edu Subject: ecto #854 ecto, Number 854 Tuesday, 9 November 1993 Today's Topics: *-----------------* Ecto catchup & mono destroyed my life the safety dance debacle 4AD database on WWW Re: the safety dance debacle Relative deprivation and other stories Info request dead can dance PG story Struggling back! ======================================================================== Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1993 09:17:08 -0700 From: "Alex Gibbs" Subject: Ecto catchup & mono destroyed my life In my fast browsing to catch up in ecto, which I haven't finished yet I came across a discussion of mono. I know this was an old topic but... It's so weird that several digests earlier I had mentioned that my life fell apart two years ago. Guess what the main cause was? MONO! My mono "lasted" 9 months, and even now resurges now and then somewhat, but less and less frequently and badly (it happened last week). It caused several other health problems to develop or get worse, leaving me still trying to get my life back together. It probably gave me ear problems for one, causing me to almost give up listening to music and making it hard to bear loud or even moderate sounds of any kind. (Some ear problems could have been caused by a number of other things though.) I lost 35lbs. Can you sense my hostility toward mono? To be fair health wasn't the only problem... I faced several problems in as many weeks and combined they withered me away over about 4 months. I also mentioned in that post that I am rebuilding my life, and I am, slowly. Two steps forward, one step back. I'm a very different person, in some ways good, in some ways not. Jeff Burka: >It can last weeks and drugs are used only in extreme cases due to side >effects (or so it was explained to me by my doctor when he told me I was >going to be riding it out on my own...;-) Doesn't that suck? Modern medicine is pretty defenseless against viri. >Fortunately, I had a fairly mild case. I know a couple of people who've >had to basically throw away an entire semester of college due to the >illness (not that it *lasted* that long...just long enough to ensure >impossibility to catch up or warrant an incomplete...) I'm glad yours was mild or at least short. Like I said, 9 months...not counting what it has left behind. I actually made it through 2 months of that semester, barely, with only one incomplete, but the next semester I couldn't even manage one course. I should have taken incompletes immediately that first semester and not tried to keep going. It does kill some people, and it turns into chronic fatigue for some, but some never even know they had it. My advice to anyone with mono... TAKE IT EASY NOW! I can't stress that enough. Thanks for letting me vent some anger. Anyway, I'll be monitoring new posts in ecto as I continue to catch up. Thanks, Jessica, for the help in my shift from digest to loose mail ecto. --- Alex Gibbs arg@kilimanjaro.opt-sci.arizona.edu "Without the pain there'd be no learning. \ / Constellation of the Without the hurting we'd never change." /`\ Heart "Have you ever seen a picture of Jesus laughing? Mmm, do `\ Why Should I you think He had a beautiful smile? A smile that healed." `\ Love You? ======================================================================== Date: Tue, 9 Nov 93 13:37:58 EST From: mojzes@monet.rutgers.edu (brni) Subject: the safety dance debacle hi there, i have a question for y'all, to end a debate between two friends of mine. my friend tory claims that she heard the "the safety dance" on the radio attributed to wang chung, and then saw the video with the same attribution. her girlfriend says that she's wrong, because "the safety dance" was done by men w/o hats. i know that debbie is right (i had the album), and that tory is likely to have just either misheard, or the dj screwed up. but it is harder to think that this happened twice. so the question is: did wang chung ever cover "the safety dance?" thanks brni mojzes@monet.vill.edu ======================================================================== Date: Tue, 9 Nov 93 21:30:11 +0100 From: yngveh@stud.cs.uit.no (Yngve Hauge) Subject: 4AD database on WWW There is actually such an database on World Wide Web here in Tromsoe. The address to log onto it is : http://isvpc146.isv.uit.no/eyesore.html All 4AD releases with album covers,cross references etc. Just incredible!!!!!!! -- T ---- Only In Your Eyes Lies Your Soul.............. H | --- ----- ---- --- - -- - - - - - --- E |-- | | | | | | |__| | | |_ | | | | | |--- | | | | | --- --- - - ---- - - - -- - - - --- --- Yngve Hauge (yngveh@stud.cs.uit.no).....University of Tromsoe...Norway ======================================================================== Date: Tue, 9 Nov 93 15:56:20 EST From: jessica Subject: Re: 4AD database on WWW yngve says: > http://isvpc146.isv.uit.no/eyesore.html > > All 4AD releases with album covers,cross references etc. > > Just incredible!!!!!!! wow!!! coolest beans! I love the web! i love mosaic! I like what 4AD has. utterly great stuff! jessica || falafel, || It is this || Don't try to tell me there's no reason for || || falafel, || that brings || any moment in time, every memory of mine. || || falafel, || us together. || Those years are lines of color on my face, || ||BaBaGanough|| --Kate || the past is warpaint. --Happy Rhodes || ======================================================================== From: brianb@netcom.com (Brian Bloom) Subject: Re: the safety dance debacle Date: Tue, 9 Nov 93 14:24:50 PST Brni querried: > i have a question for y'all, to end a debate between two > friends of mine. my friend tory claims that she heard the > "the safety dance" on the radio attributed to wang chung, > and then saw the video with the same attribution. her > girlfriend says that she's wrong, because "the safety dance" > was done by men w/o hats. > > i know that debbie is right (i had the album), and that tory is > likely to have just either misheard, or the dj screwed up. but > it is harder to think that this happened twice. > > so the question is: did wang chung ever cover "the safety dance?" Not that I know of. Wang Chung was most noted for "Dance Hall Days" from their "Points On a Curve" album. There has been an underground version or two of "Safety Dance" either redone/remixed by unknown folks, but never by Wang Chung that I can recall. Can't guarantee that they never did tho'.... br!an -- __ ____ __ ____ __ __ (__==__) /\ \ / \_\ / /\ / \ \ / |\ / /\ (oo) ( moo.) / \_\ / /\ |_| / / /| /\ \ \ / ||/ / / /-------\/ -' / /\ | |\ \/ /_/_ / / / \ \/ \ \ / |/ / / / | U.T.|| / \/ |_| \ __ \_\ /_/ / \ /\ \_\ / /| / / * ||----|| / /\ ./_/ \ \ \/_/_\_\/ \ \ \/_// / | / / ^^ ^^ \ \/ |_| \ \_\ /_/\ \ \_\ /_/ /|_/ / Br!an Bloom \__/_/ \/_/ \_\/ \/_/ \_\/ \_\/ brianb@netcom.com .. but music hides me so well, ..and reveals me.. oh well - HR ======================================================================== Date: Tue, 09 Nov 93 16:23:18 CST From: "Lovable, harmless little fuzzball" Subject: Relative deprivation and other stories Kafkaesquely, last week's burglar dropped by again last night. While taking down the particulars, the cops cross-referenced the report number from last time, and then announced that the perp had been collared (is this choice of words a sign I've been watching too many crime shows on the tube? :-) ) sometim e between the time of his recidivation and this morning. What seems most Kafkaesque about the whole thing, in retrospect, is that my cat, who's capable of doing astounding things with his teeth and claws (at least to me), spent the whole crime-time staying in a safe place. At least that's the impression I get from observing him this morning, when he still seemed kind of diffident. Such wasted potential :-). I have just heard on the radio that the Bears have fired Refrigerator Perry. Gives one a sense of history, doth it not? :-) Last week the _Chicago Tribune_ gave a favorable review to the local DCD concer t. One of the more interesting things it contained was a characterization of DCD's music as the kind of stuff that medieval monks would have loaded into the ir cassette players, if there had been cassette players back then, or words to that effect. WRT the further comments on mono: the closest I've ever come was about 20 years ago, when I had seemingly chronic cold/flu symptoms, and Student Health, having run out of other diagnoses to rule out, tested me for mono and VD. Both came back negative, as I had predicted they would. They weren't very good doctors anyway. Lately I seem to have come down with some other kind of virus, which I assume is also neither mono or VD. Strange how much you can learn about modern medicine from practical experience alone :-). A belated happy birthday to Joni Mitchell (last Sunday). An even more belated happy Guy Fawkes Day (last Friday) to my readers across the pond. WBEZ ran an address by Margaret Thatcher this afternoon, and the moderator quipped that had Guy and associates been successful, she would never have been kicked upstai rs to the sinecurial job she now has :-). Off to try and stay quasi-healthy until it's time for the Al and Ross Show :-). Mitch ======================================================================== Date: Tue, 9 Nov 93 18:46:36 EST From: woj@remus.rutgers.edu (the horizon you run to) Subject: Re: 4AD database on WWW the 4ad database was originally a database program written by lars what's- his-name called eyesore. you still can access that program directly if you are mosaicless by telnetting to isvpc146.isv.uit.no and logging in as eyesore. as jessica and yngve say, there's lots of good stuff there. if you ever have a 4ad question, that's the place to look. +woj ======================================================================== From: neilg@sfu.ca Subject: Re: 4AD database on WWW Date: Tue, 9 Nov 93 16:28:16 PST > the 4ad database was originally a database program written by lars > what's- his-name called eyesore. you still can access that program > directly if you are mosaicless by telnetting to isvpc146.isv.uit.no and > logging in as eyesore. as jessica and yngve say, there's lots of good > stuff there. if you ever have a 4ad question, that's the place to > look. It is pretty cool, especially using Mosaic or whatever. It takes quite a while for it to load all the scanned album covers, though. Guess that transatlantic link gets bogged down with people doing trivial stuff like that. :) I did notice a band called Dead Can Cance. Does anyone know anything about them? :) It'd be nice if there was a place one could obtain small bios on some of these people. For instance, I've always wondered where Dead Can Dance are from. For some strange reason I think I remember hearing once that they're from Australia, but I'm certain I'm totally worng on that one. Are they English? Irish? I don't know. - Neil K. -- 49N 16' 123W 7' / Vancouver, BC, Canada / neil_k_guy@sfu.ca ======================================================================== Date: Tue, 9 Nov 93 16:33:47 PST From: kyrlidis@templeton.cchem.berkeley.edu (Angelos Kyrlidis) Subject: Info request Hi, I know I heard about her in ecto, but I don't seem to recall what the context or the consensus was. I am talking about Brenda Kahn, whose album 'Epiphany in Brooklyn' I picked up the other day (about 2 weeks ago-but listened to it recently) for $1. I really like it, and would like to hear other opinions or some background on her plus what else she has released. Thanks, Angelos 'I don't sleep, I drink coffee instead trying to burn a hole through my aching head' - Brenda Kahn ======================================================================== Date: Tue, 9 Nov 93 19:55:37 EST From: woj@remus.rutgers.edu (the horizon you run to) Subject: dead can dance i'm not sure about lisa gerrard, but i know that brendan perry is from austraila (i'm about 90% certain that lisa is too, but i have a nagging feeling that i'm wrong). brendan is currently living in a castle on the irish coast. i think lisa is in england now, but again, i'm not sure. i'll suggest to lars that some kind of bio info be added to the server. good idea, neil. +w ======================================================================== Date: 9 Nov 1993 17:48:35 U From: "emilyb" Subject: PG story Well, now that it's finally calmed down a little here at work, I can send in the Peter Gabriel story that Dave mentioned... Two weekends ago I was having dinner with my mother and my grandmother. As always, Grandma wanted to know what I had been doing recently, so I mentioned that Dave, Angelos, and I had gone to WOMAD. Then I had to explain what WOMAD was. When I mentioned Peter Gabriel, Grandma looked thoughtful and said, "Peter Gabriel... He's from England, isn't he?" "Yes," I said, wondering how she had heard of him. "Oh," she said, "Muriel H----- [name omitted to protect the innocent] was a Gabriel before she married. She's a relative of his. The last time he did a concert in Portland she had him over for a cocktail party. Your grandfather and I were invited, but we had to take the dogs to the vet." Needless to say, I did my best to finagle an invitation the next time he's in town... - Emily "I can't believe I'm envious of my grandmother" Breed ======================================================================== From: r.lovejoy1@genie.geis.com Date: Wed, 10 Nov 93 01:26:00 BST Subject: Struggling back! Hi all! Here I am on Genie. I'm having some problems figuring out how to get this 14.4 modem to work with my old mail service, as well as Prodigy. It's fine on Genie and a wonder to behold on the BBSs, but I've not been able to contact SAI or *P* or one other service I use. Oddly, everything else is OK. One good thing is that it's a faxmodem, so I can now send pertinent posts to Susanne at AG! Once I figure out that end of it, that is. Having enough problems getting the data end to work. It's a US Robotics Sportster, BTW. Now I've seen Windows, and the legendary Minesweeper. Yep yep yep! Um hum. And the new pooter is a real humdinger. Well, back to the manuals! Bob the befuddled ======================================================================== From: neilg@sfu.ca Subject: Re: PG story Date: Tue, 9 Nov 93 18:28:39 PST > she had heard of him. "Oh," she said, "Muriel H----- [name omitted to protect > the innocent] was a Gabriel before she married. She's a relative of his. The > last time he did a concert in Portland she had him over for a cocktail party. > Your grandfather and I were invited, but we had to take the dogs to the vet." Neat! My aunt (also named Muriel, incidentally) told me that she's in the same health club as Mr. Gabriel. (she lives in Bath, Avon) I don't know if she could tell him from the plumber, but she knows the name anyway. :) - Neil K. -- 49N 16' 123W 7' / Vancouver, BC, Canada / neil_k_guy@sfu.ca ======================================================================== The ecto archives are on hardees.rutgers.edu in ~ftp/pub/hr. There is an INDEX file explaining what is where. Feel free to send me things you'd like to have added. -- jessica (jessica@ns1.rutgers.edu)