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                             ecto, Number 65

                       Wednesday, 27 November 1991

                             Today's Topics:
                           *-----------------*
                         1st sketch of HGP-cover
                       The 1st GIF cover sketch...
               apologies to non-uudecode equipted readers
                    UUencode etc with Macintoshes...
                           re: HGP Tape Cover
                               O Lucky Man
                        HGP - list of selections

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Subject: 1st sketch of HGP-cover
Date: Tue, 26 Nov 91 16:52:08 N
From: Klaus Kluge <kkluge@materna.de>

Hi everybody !

In an Australian/German co-operation, and additional support by
the Love-Hounds archive, we are now proud to present you a first
sketch of how the tape cover of the Happy Gift Project could
look like. Appended you will find a small uuencoded GIF picture.

Credits for the artwork go to Martin.

Here we go:

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_____
Klaus Kluge  ---  kkluge@Materna.DE  ---  Countdown: 18 days


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Date: Wed, 27 Nov 1991 01:21 +8:00
From: SVODOPIER@cc.curtin.edu.au
Subject: The 1st GIF cover sketch...

Hiya!

The GIF sketch Klaus just kindly encoded and posted for me is just a
quick sketch of an idea for the composition of a photo to go on the
fromt cover of the HGP... I honestly did the thing in about ten minutes,
so it's rough...

I figured a shot of what many of our desks must look like from above
would make a cool pic... the things in the top left are a stack of
Happy cassettes and a set of headphones.

Do we have any ecto-pods/philes/wackos/maniax/tions who dabble in
photography?  If not, perhaps we could use a drawing... I'll be
willing to give it a shot after next week...

Meanwhile, let's see some more ideas..!

(Gee, is this a creative blue mailing list or what?)

Mr Hanging-out-for-end-of-term-parties Marty.
,-------------------------+----------------------------.        _ .
| "There's nothing quite  | Martin Dougiamas.          |  ~  _/| Ll\   ~
|  so fun as a good,      | sdougiama@cc.curtin.edu.au |    |  |_|__\ ~
|  solid poke in the eye  | Curtin University          | ~  \  |_|_ /    ~
|  with a pencil."  o.x   | Perth, Western Australia --+---> x~  `-'   ~
`===================\_/===+============================'          V


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Subject: apologies to non-uudecode equipted readers
Date: Tue, 26 Nov 91 17:25:07 N
From: Klaus Kluge <kkluge@materna.de>

Hmmmm, I'm just thinking (occasionally I do) that our quickie with
the cover-gif was not such a good idea. It just dawned on me that
most of the readers have no idea what to do with this strange block
of characters. So maybe we should only announce possible new pictures
in the mailing list, and Ectophiles who are interested to see it and
can handle a "uuencoded" GIF-picture can request it from the artist.

Just some information to tell you what it is all about. Most of us
already know what GIF-pictures are. You can transfer them with the
FTP-programm because that is capable of sending binary files; that
is all possibles values without modification. Unfortunately you
can't do that via e-mail. The "uuencode"-program converts a binary
file into a block of displayable characters (that's what you have
seen), and the "uudecode"-program can convert it back to the original
file.

So, to be able to view what we have posted, you first need an "uudecode"
program on your system and then a program to display GIF pictures.

Apologies to everyone who has no possibility to handle it.
Following pictures from my side will only be avaible via e-mail on
request.
_____
Klaus Kluge  ---  kkluge@Materna.DE  ---  Countdown: 18 days


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Date: Wed, 27 Nov 1991 02:29 +8:00
From: SVODOPIER@cc.curtin.edu.au
Subject: UUencode etc with Macintoshes...

Re: UUencode etc...

For anyone with access to a Macintosh, the following programs are all
that is needed to decode a UUencoded GIF (Graphic Interchange Format) file:

UUtool 2.0.3   - to convert the text UUencoded file into a binary GIF file.
  (available via FTP from sumex-aim.stanford.edu, in './util/uutool-203.hqx')

GIF Converter 2.2.9  - to display the GIF file on any Macintosh.
  (available via FTP from the same place, in './art/gif/gif-converter-229.hqx')

('twould be nice to have a regular FTP site we could leave the GIFs at...
  ... hint, hint, nudge nudge, wink wink,...
  "... say no more, SAY NO MORE!
   Are you interested in *GIFS*, eh?  GIFS eh?, HE ASKED HIM KNOWINGLY.
   Snap snap, grin grin, wink wink, say no more, SAY NO MORE!"  )

err.. sorry... I seemed to have lapsed into Python accidentally.
I wonder what brought that on... ah! must have been Doug's post about
Neil Innes... last I saw him was in "Monty Python Live at the Hollywood Bowl".
Nice song, "HSTBAI", but why would you want to dedicate that to Happy, Doug?

By the way: Tom and Daniel, I noticed your HappyWare program has been
getting a bit of stick lately around the traps because it has few bugs.
Hope it all works out OK... seems the big launch with the fake press
release might not have been a good idea...  :-(

Martin


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Date: Tue, 26 Nov 91 09:22:46 EST
From: Nimue - Gwragedd Annwn <hargieka@clutx.clarkson.edu>
Subject: re: HGP Tape Cover

I can draw up several different designs and send them to Vickie to pick
and choose from or not choose.  I can draw up Klaus's idea and a couple
others....

idea?
kIrI


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Date: Tue, 26 Nov 91 18:58:29 CST
From: barger@ils.nwu.edu
Subject: O Lucky Man

Who's Del, Mitch?  Only the luckiest Oberon in Albion!


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Date: Tue, 26 Nov 91 16:38:53 EST
From: Nimue - Gwragedd Annwn <hargieka@clutx.clarkson.edu>

To quote Vickie directly:

>Does Happy have more of an ability to attract people who have
>known pain? I think so. I think she can touch deep feelings in
>people who have been privliged and pampered, but it's the
>"wretches" she speaks most deeply to. I consider myself one of
>"the wretches" so I'm not taking shots at anyone. Kate's fans are
>half and half, I think.

 I agree wholeheartedly.  While I have been a privliged and pampered
little spoiled rotten brat for much of my life (mostly to defend
myself from other spoiled rotten bitches and a**holes), I also
know what it is to feel real pain. Im going to digress a bit back
to what that flaming wench (augh excuse me) Melissa wrote about
the "non"existence of psychological pain.  I think she's full of
crock! I have experienced it on several levels from such sources
as my sister and bro-in-law to a kind of societal force that is
just out there.  There was never any hostility, fortunately, but
the pain inflicted through taunts, sibling evaluations and
comparisons etc.  For instance it was drilled into my head since
the third or fourth grade that i was stupid.  I didn't get over
this until university, and occasionally have to reaffirm the
truth to myself.  Melissa would say "well you should have had
the strength to defend yourself." I would answer that a simple
child does not have that kind of strength of will, lacks the
reasoning capabilities that an adult has, and when they do get
older they don't reason out the situation until it stares them
straight in their face and defies what you have been told
repeatedly throughout the years.  Melissa is very naive, if she
were in a plastic bubble she wouldnt be able to recognize the
dust particle that could kill her.  Yes, these psychological
"forces" may seem trivial, but when you experience them they
are very real, and can cause real and lasting damage.  I've
digressed from my original intent - i didn't want to bring up
the whole Melissa thing because it bothered me..and i certainly
didn't want to spout off on Ecto but sobeit.
Back to real pain or maybe pain that is more easily recognizable.
As I said above I was mostly raised in a privilged house.  HOwever
I also experienced a lot of pain the greatest being the death of
my father when i was 12.  At that age I was undergoing a lo t of
stress both because of his death, and from a kind of all-around
feeling of being alone.  I wouldnt say it has left me as a wretch
though sometimes I can feel like one.  I definitely agree that
Happy's music from the "sad" angle touces (argh) touches me in an
almost proufround (wsorry about the typos im on a bloody RISC and
I hate this thing) way.   I think no matter what kind of pain you
have gone through - and everybody has had some pain in their life
unless they are incredibly charmed., knows what Happy is saying, and
maybe that does make us ectophiles a little more sympathetic...who
knows...maybe some psychologist type should do a study of Ectoians.

NAnyway ive rambled without saying anything definitive.  I just
basically agree with what VIckie has said for the most part., and
believe it to be true.

Weell I am off fro Turkey Day to the wonderfl city of scum i.e. NYC -
no offense to New Yorkers I just can't stand the city.

kIrI
hargieka@craft.camp.clarkson.edu

GOBBLE BOBBLE GOBBLE GOBBLE GOBBLE GOBBLE GOBBLE GOBBLE GOBBLE!!